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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/10/2009 7:42:23 PM | It stinks & it's illegal. That's enough reasons for me.
Ditto. I hate the smell of cigarettes, why should I put up with the stink of pot? Also, I had a b/f for a bit who smoked it regularly. That was enough to totally turn me off from pot and men who smoke the shet. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/10/2009 7:55:15 PM | | i certainly dont have a problem with it. Natural bush herb is fine, used for spiritual purposes and meditation. I find that for me it effects me in a positive way, im not a regular smoker, i hold down a very good job and maintain and function a normal life. I do not drink alcohol and do no other chemical drugs. I dont believe in putting chemicals into the body that arent natural. I guess if i could get Kava in australia i would prefer to drink that! I think like everything it needs to be done in moderation... like everything in life we can easily overdo it.. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/10/2009 7:58:07 PM | having smoked when i was younger, i just don't get what the freakin fascination is.
like it or not, some of us grew up and choose to handle life without mind altering crap and some of us grew up physically but are still stuck in our teenage and younger years.
Exactly!
I will even extend MarialT's post to include alcohol in excess too. I prefer reality, thank you.... and I would like to be with someone else who is real most of the time too. I can handle someone who smokes the ocassional joint, just like I can handle someone who has the ocassional drink or two, but either one as a means of masking reality - no thanx. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/10/2009 7:58:07 PM | Look, the legality issues aside, it's a bloody disgusting and unhealthy habit. So are cigarettes. And so is alcohol. It's just a fact. Abuse can lead to a lot of really bad things, and almost certainly, nothing good. I won't be around anyone who abuses any of these substances for very long. It makes me extremely uncomfortable.
It is what it is.
I just wonder how many recreational pot users on this site had the balls to check "yes" on the "do you use drugs?" question.
Is it the worst possible thing in the world to do? Nope. But it's a deal breaker like a SOB for me. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/10/2009 8:06:04 PM | | If you like to live in la la land then you are not living. People I know that dabble they all look sht and behaves like that too. I don't care for it nor see the fun in getting high. Pot smoking can detroy families and relationships. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/10/2009 8:45:02 PM | Smoking pot is an addiction. It is a person choosing to abuse their bodies in an unhealthy manner. Other ways people can abuse themselves include consuming too much alcohol, eating too much, not exercising, etc.
I refuse to date anyone who does drugs or has done them. Such behaviour shows lack of self control and I want to be with someone who has brains and control over themselves. Someone who is fit and healthy like myself, not someone who behaves irresponsibly. Like alcohol drugs can destroy lives, marriages, and relationships.
I have never been exposed to drugs or excessive alcohol use. I've never smoked and consume alcohol very rarely and when I do it's a bottle of beer or glass of wine. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 12:19:10 AM |
from what i have seen, it's best for pot smokers to date other pot smokers.
So simple and to the point.
Through out history people (and animals) have always used intoxicants. In every age and every part of the world people have pursued intoxication, which is in fact a natural part of our biology.
It's also interesting to note that Jesus Christ chose to reveal His divine power, for the first time, while at a party that ran out of wine. He used six large waterpots of stone filled with water (the first 6 pack). It seems even He liked to cop a little buzz. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 12:52:33 AM | Sorry.
I was gonna write something but I forgot what it was.
Maybe it was something about a roach clip and cheetos?
I gotta find that 50 cent under my couch, the ice cream man is comin.  | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 12:58:33 AM | This whole issue with pot is kinda stupid. Think about it... how many traffic accidents are attributed to DUI (OWI, in some states)??? How many domestic abuse cases occur because of alcohol?? How many lives are ruined cuz of alcohol??? How about gambling?? How about Infidelity??? But NOOOOOoooooo.... we're all gonna come down on the pot smokers cuz they are illegal, they are "addicts" (Pot is not addictive, only habitual), they are disgusting??? OMG... I bet most of you don't even know that your own doctor partakes... or your lawyer... God knows they do cocaine, but that isn't the subject here is it? The point here is a simple one... How many people have been arrested for driving while stoned compared to DUI??? Pretty small amount.. How many wives/husbands get their butt's kicked while the aggressor is on pot??? Also a pretty small number compared to alcohol... Cigarettes are legal, even though they have an addictive component to them, same as alcohol. Pot is NOT addictive... yet for some convoluted reason it is deemed an illegal drug... WHY??? Cuz of the commercial success potential. Hemp is stronger then cotton. Hemp is easier to harvest than cotton... Hemp is a good thing that would hurt many existing businesses... so our "Do-Good" leaders proclaimed it a bad thing. Pot helps people with medical problems... and it does it naturally, no worries about addiction... and when it comes to the arguement that it is a gateway drug??? Bullturds... If someone is dumb enough to do LSD, ICE, Crack, Heroin, etc... it wasn't the pot that made them do it, it was there own misguided sense of values that did it... Pure & Simple. I'm three quarter white-boy, Hippie Biker Dude, and one quarter Cherokee Indian... and my Indian ancestors knew what the scoop was... Pot was used for spiritual & medicinal reasons. Pot ain't the problem, it's what people do with it that is the real problem. I smoke pot (Golly Gee officers, come get me...), but... I do it responsibly and only on occasion... In other words, I do pot the same way I do a beer... For those that need to smoke daily, I feel pity. For those that smoke 24/7, I feel disgust... for those like me, I say puff, puff, pass.
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 1:03:58 AM | Hemp, cannibis, I'm confused.
I thought hemp was legal. Hemp is being made into close, moisturizer and a host of other stuff and that's all legal. You can buy hemp online and other places legally.
But cannabis - I think that's the scientific name for weed - is not.
Since weed comes from hemp (I think), then when does it make the jump from being legal to illegal? | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 1:39:06 AM | However, now it isn't, and pot smokers do therefore live in a culture of being afraid of the knock on the door.
How do you know what pot smokers fear? Have you lived in that "culture" (you make it sound like the Manson family). My guess is they're living in about as much fear as the average citizen shaking inside of their locked front door in fear of a parking ticket. But that's just a guess.
Also, in my experience, pot smokers become seriously irritable when they have to go without, even for a few hours. Also, they never recognize this fact, which might be a side-effect of the pot.
I don't know what pot smokers you know but I've known hundreds and not a one has ever exhibited those symptoms. Not a one. I think what you're describing may be endemic to that particular group. If, for example, it's a group of outlaw bikers compared to a shakespear book club, I doubt you'd find that comparison.
Plus it's legal.
Legal. Illegal. It's a high no matter how you choose to slice it. I've never known MJ to cause scirossis of the liver or be associated with DUIs. Now which one should be legal and which one illegal. I guess prohibition answered part of that question. I think it's high time (no pun intended) to legalize it. Regulate it. Tax it. Live with it without the stigma of punishment. That's the kind of justice I'd like to see.
But in the current cultural climate, I do think that pot is a negative.
I'm not sure. As up tight and wired like springs most people I see out there, I think a little pot might just help. People are so stressed because of the economy, we're seeing some strange things going on out there. More crime, more radicalism (thanks to the rabid right that just can't let it go), less work, fewer jobs. People are hurting. If people are going to do either, I'd rather see them smoke than drink any day for a variety of reasons.
I also believe it is a gateway drug...
That's already been medically proven NOT to be the case. It's all myth.
It is a person choosing to abuse their bodies in an unhealthy manner. Other ways people can abuse themselves include consuming too much alcohol, eating too much, not exercising, etc.
So? Your point is?
I refuse to date anyone who does drugs or has done them. Such behaviour shows lack of self control
I refuse to go to churches or date anyone that does...for much the same reasons. Hey. To each his own, right? Live and let live.
I have never been exposed to drugs or excessive alcohol use. I've never smoked and consume alcohol very rarely and when I do it's a bottle of beer or glass of wine.
So all your very strident opinions are based upon zero experience? Isn't that sort of like getting sex education from a nun?
the ice cream man is comin'
The Ben & Jerry's Fudge Chocolate Choclate is in big trouble here 
Meanwhile, the drinking counterparts can go out and do what they do - get sloshed, beat each other up, then pass out in their own vomit on the ground. To each his own.
puff, puff, pass
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 1:51:21 AM | For those of you interested enough and really curious about the truth (there IS another one, you know) click on the "Emporer" button link at the top of the site below and read "Cannabis history in America - "The Emperor Has No Clothes". You're learn something.
http://www.jackherer.com/
I'm a school teacher. I would be a hypocrite to approve of it while telling the children not to do it.
You might have a beer at home but certainly not offer one to a five year old. How on earth is that hypocritical? | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 1:59:26 AM | {"So all your very strident opinions are based upon zero experience? Isn't that sort of like getting sex education from a nun?"}
Thas some funny stuff right there!!
{"I have no issue with it as long as it does not affect your relationship, your career, ambition or your children."}
My version: I have no issues with it as long as im not dating you and it does not affect my relationship, my career, my ambition, my safety or my children and family in any way. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 2:27:11 AM | Ok, I'm going to put my two cents in to this subject...and you can bash me all you want either way.
I smoke marijuana on a semi-regular basis. Yes, my profile says I don't do drugs...but they don't have the same array of options as they do with smoking and drinking. My thoughts on the subject are as follows:
1. Marijuana isn't necessarily a gateway drug...it all depends on the person. Someone who is prone to addiction will easily transition from pot to a harder drug. MOST potheads just stick with marijuana as it's still one of the cheapest drugs you can buy, and it's the least harmful of any drug(including nicotine and alcohol).
2. There is a vast difference between pot use, and pot abuse...the same as alcohol. I have no problems with pot use...smoke a joint, relax for a few hours, play videogames, listen to music...whatever you want...do it at home. But don't let it run your life...if you don't want to work, go to school, or anything productive, then it's a problem. If it starts interfering with your relationships with others, and your life, then you have an abuse problem. When I smoke pot I don't buy a lot...I usually spend $20 a MONTH on it. When I smoke it, it's usually by myself and with the intention of just utterly relaxing. I NEVER miss work, I always pay my rent and my bills first, and I damned sure that my kids are looked after before I engage in toking.
3. I think that it should be legalized. Tax it like cigarettes, and govern it like cigarettes and alcohol(must be 18 to purchase, illegal to drive while under the influence(it currently IS considered DUI if you're stoned behind the wheel anyways), and whatever other regulations they have on alcohol). If you want to grow it or sell it, then you register with the U.S/Canadian government as a licensed business and you pay taxes on it...you'll still make a buttload of money...lol
4. To judge someone based on whether or not they smoke pot is just hippocritical and discriminatory. Some will approve, some won't, but smoking pot is only a smart part of who someone is, and you shouldn't discount them as a friend just because they do something you don't approve of...I'm sure if you took a really close look at any of your friends you'll find at least 1 thing that they do that you don't necessarily like.
This is just my thoughts and opinions on this matter...like it or not, that's up to you. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 9:24:38 AM | I'm glad this question was not deleted. It's shown a pretty broad range of opinions.
What I see is a lot of what I see elsewhere on these forums; a lot of generalizing . I guess it's a part of human nature to do this as we see it everywhere we look. It seems to me generalizing is a species of prejudice. You know...Blacks are all lazy, Asians are all overachievers, Whites are all uptight, Artists are all tempermental, etc., etc. What I notice is there's a tendency to take most extreme characteristics of a set and attribute those traits to the entire grouping. If you think about it, it's just totally illogical. But we do it anyway, because it's not about logic, it seems to me to be about fear. All those who responded so negatively seem to feel there are some dire situations they absolutely must guard against.
I think they think maybe something like this; "maybe I don't know much about pot, but I'd rather be safe than sorry". Or, " My ____( brother, boyfriend, co-worker...whatever) smokes pot and they're out of control with it" so it seems to them, any person using it will also be the same kind of user. It's much easier on the mind apparently to avoid any kind of nuanced thinking and just generally paint them all with same brush; much safer that way. It's kind of the way most animals process similar issues;"got abused by a human once, better to just avoid the lot of them". Very interesting. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 10:39:55 AM | | I personally do not have a problem with it and think it should be legalized. But with that said, I do see a problem with people that waste their time smoking all the time. I have that same problem with couch potatoes, and people that complaint about everything else and the world and do not take action themselves. I've known some people that smoked so much, and since I don't because it kills your lung capacity for cycling, just being in the same room inhaling the air would give me a high. So, no. No interest in my part. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 11:03:29 AM | | I think what gets lost in all of this is the individual who is smoking pot as opposed to just smoking pot. I personally have heard some very weird happenings with smoking pot like one guy told me he smoked pot and sat in a cemetery which I thought was a tad bit deeper than his pot smoking but whatever,as opposed to other happenings where people smoke it and chill. Smoking pot is no worse than a person who can smoke a death stick every hour of the day or the person who has to hit the bar after work or everyday just to socialize and drink amongst friends. Till this day I've never heard of one person overdose on smoking pot. For the people who say it destroys your body, I tend to disagree for the simple fact that I used to be a college athlete at the Div 1-A level and witnessed as well as heard of stories of some of the best athletes in my sport smoking pot and still being some of the best; and mind you at the Div 1-A it's like a full time job having to go to class, work out, practice, travel on weekends if there is a away game. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 11:18:42 AM | OP, as a former "pothead" I can honestly state two things:
1). I prefer being sober (have not smoked in over 22 years, and drank in 13 years).
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2). I don't judge what others do. So as Wayne would say...."Party on!"
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 3:40:49 PM | | Not that it matters what other people think. What I mean is that opinions will vary. IMO, people that make snap judgments are in reality pointing out something that they dislike in themselves. Think about that for a moment. When you are content with something, if you see someone else doing that, are you going to snap at them? | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 3:46:24 PM | | As someone who has grown up with it around me pretty much my entire life, I can tell you alcohol definitely does more harm than pot. I say this as a social drinker and when I say social I like to drink, when I drink. Even if I wanted to be critical of people who smoke weed, I'd feel like a hypocrite. However, I have no objections to it whatsoever. To each their own! Keep the nose candy and needles out of the house and obviously other variations of it.. then we're all good! | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/11/2009 7:06:43 PM | Personally, I haven't smoked pot in a dozen years. Although I was not a pothead(did it maybe twice a week) I did enjoy it. Alcohol and pot in moderation can be okay, and marijuana is often prescribed for cancer and glaucoma patients as opposed to cigarettes, which are harmful in any quantity. Of course they should be used responsibly, avoiding driving and operating heavy equipment. I feel pot should be legalized and monitered by selling it in liquor stores. This would eliminate the dealers and make it more difficult for youngsters to use it. The tax money can go to rehab centers, cancer research, etc. Let's face it, the drug wars have been a failure. And I'm far from a liberal.   | |
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