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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 5:12:08 PM |
As for hand holding. The citizenry of this nation have already shown many times over in the last 50 years that in the matter of mind altering substances they do indeed need their hands held.
And that is what I meant by "moral pushing".
If people would not 'push morals' onto others, then I think alot of these types of issues would fall by the wayside. (Perfect world fallacy)
Like I said, it all boils down to personal preference.
PS Apologies on my misunderstanding regarding 'political comments'. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 5:45:35 PM | It smells, it's illegal and well people can do stupid shit when high, which applies to alcohol too.
It's just not my cup of tea. I prefer not to date someone who does drugs, soft or hard. I don't mind getting drunk every now and then but if a guy has to be stoned or drunk every time we're together then he's not worth my time and shows he can't be sober around me, which would make me sad and not good enough to spend time with sober... but i do know i'm good person and deserve respect by being sober, among other things. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 5:47:47 PM | So its "moral pushing" to not want a 15 year old kid to die because someone else found nothing morally wrong with selling him/her a mind altering substance?
Its "moral pushing" to help parents try to control whether or not their child has access to these substances because an adult saw nothing morally wrong with providing it or was to stupid to store it in a manner that would keep it out of the reach of children?
Is it "moral pushing" to simply make an item illegal to avoid the possible lawsuit chaos that could come from a store being robbed then those items being on the street for a child to purchase or sell?
I'm sure you will deny this but I do see pot as a gateway drug for the youth. These kids who moved on to ecstacy, meth, coke, pcp and others generally started out with pot. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 6:16:07 PM |
So its "moral pushing" to...
No but it is appealing to authority, and appealing to emotion.
And you have that gateway part backwards.
The majority of pot smokers never use harder drugs.
The majority of hard drug users have smoked pot.
(It's okay, that can be confusing.) | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 6:33:05 PM | My only real issue around it is that it's a controlled substance....and having possession of it can get a person incarcerated....and that's just wrong.
Much information is in about it......It (pot) is far less devastating than alcohol....plus, it is not classified as addictive, or as a disease....which alcohol is. Yet, you can pick up booze at your grocery store, while shoppin'.....or, when you stop to gas up at your local convenience store. Alcohol kills, man. It freaking kills.
ya might think by now, that they could take all of that task force money spent trying to bust a dude or a gal with a couple of oz's, and put it to better use.....you know, feed someone who's layin downtown in a cardboard box on the street. anything.,
It's not an easy issue to solve..that's for sure, because gubment' has it's long arm into it all.....
ha..I still remember that story by George Carlin...we should give soldiers world wide....give them pot, not guns...they'd be huggin each other 'man', and sittin in the same foxholes together lookin for somethin to munch on......" I love you , man" lol.
Kim bo ~~ | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 6:47:43 PM |
And you have that gateway part backwards.
The majority of pot smokers never use harder drugs.
The majority of hard drug users have smoked pot.
Agree to disagree on that one. My personal experience with friends and family show otherwise. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 6:55:30 PM | Pot is illegal.
So is exceeding the speed limit.
Pot is a gateway drug. (The kids probably started with tobacco.)
Speeding (kids start out in big wheels) is the gateway for tailgating, excessive
lane changing, reckless driving, street racing. Danger and mayhem.
As far as what we teach our kids...our behavior is their model.
Concern, rightfully so, that adult activities, aren't sold to them...but
that includes tobacco, alcohol, weaonry, lottery, porn as well as pot.
Who doesn't exceed the speed limit from time to time? C'mon. Be honest.
How do you justify it? THAT is what kids see. If speeding is your driving
M.O., kids see that too. Replace speeding in this paragraph with pot, porn,
prescriptions, drinking, cheating, eating, whatever.
We all have our degrees of tolerances and intolerances, pot is certainly one
of the hot buttons like politics and religion, for all the reasons stated thus far.
And, for all the posting
has anybody changed their position? | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 7:06:32 PM | actually its been legal in california since 1996 and i so happen to be a smoker and cancer survivor so before any one person judges another get your facts straight and remember we don't smoke because of you but to help our own ailment. which sure beats 100's of pills a day, how bout that.........
no one has overdosed or died from just pot smoke, you don't end up on dialysis from it and it is chemical free all natural.
genesis 1:12 we can partake of anything that grows and re-seeds | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 7:07:10 PM | | I could care less about what another adult does in the privacy of their own home if children are not present. To me smoking pot is no different than drinking a beer or listening to bad country music. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 7:08:49 PM | Agree to disagree on that one. My personal experience with friends and family show otherwise.
Ahh, I see the misunderstanding now!
I was under the impression we were talking about fact! Personal opinion/experience, well that is up to the beholder.
For those who want the facts: The majority of pot users never use harder drugs. However, the majority of hard drug users have smoked pot. (Remember it is confusing, the first sentence is the most important.)
Like I said, uninformed decisions create the murky waters of 'is pot good/bad'. When all it boils down to is personal preference. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 8:22:03 PM |
For those who want the facts: The majority of pot users never use harder drugs. However, the majority of hard drug users have smoked pot. (Remember it is confusing, the first sentence is the most important.)
Like I said, uninformed decisions create the murky waters of 'is pot good/bad'. When all it boils down to is personal preference.
Here's the fact. Nobody can answer the question. Research papers and Think Tanks can only do a small sample of the populace based on those who are willing to step forward.
For every statistic saying it isn't a gateway drug another can be provided saying it is.
Unless someone is Omnipresent and Omnipotent so he can poll every drug user in the world past present and future and know whether they're telling the truth or not.
So all we have to go on is experience in that particular subject. My experience is 1 parent, 3 brothers and 5 friends who went from smoking pot to a range of drugs including xanex, coke, acid, crack and a multitude of stolen prescription drugs. A few have been able to quit the other drugs but for some reason they just can't stop smoking that pot. Interesting indeed. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 9:11:55 PM |
genesis 1:12 we can partake of anything that grows and re-seeds
Hmmm. Foxglove, wolfsbane, monkshood, daphne, poison ryegrass, deadly nightshade, and many more are poisonous things that grow and re-seed themselves.
This is the logic of a pot-smoker??? | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 9:18:36 PM |
Research papers and Think Tanks can only do a small sample of the populace based on those who are willing to step forward.
So all we have to go on is experience in that particular subject.
What happened to the 'samples of the populace'? Are those samples bigger than than 9 people? Wouldn't a bigger sample, better represent the 'average'?
Like I said, a "personal experience" is not always a fact.
Myth: Marijuana is a Gateway Drug. Even if marijuana itself causes minimal harm, it is a dangerous substance because it leads to the use of "harder drugs" like heroin, LSD, and cocaine.
Fact: Marijuana does not cause people to use hard drugs. What the gateway theory presents as a causal explanation is a statistic association between common and uncommon drugs, an association that changes over time as different drugs increase and decrease in prevalence. Marijuana is the most popular illegal drug in the United States today. Therefore, people who have used less popular drugs such as heroin, cocaine, and LSD, are likely to have also used marijuana. Most marijuana users never use any other illegal drug. Indeed, for the large majority of people, marijuana is a terminus rather than a gateway drug.
Morral, Andrew R.; McCaffrey, Daniel F. and Susan M. Paddock. “Reassessing the marijuana gateway effect.” Addiction 97.12 (2002): 1493-504.
United States. National Household Survey on Drug Abuse: Population Estimates 1994. Rockville, MD: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1995.
---. National Household Survey on Drug Abuse: Main Findings 1994. Rockville, MD: U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, 1996.
D.B. Kandel and M. Davies, “Progression to Regular Marijuana Involvement: Phenomenology and Risk Factors for Near-Daily Use,” Vulnerability to Drug Abuse, Eds. M. Glantz and R. Pickens. Washington, D.C.: American Psychological Association, 1992: 211-253.
Source: http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/#gateway
You still have not refuted my position; the reason pot is an issue in relationships (and plenty of fish specifically) is because of "moral pushing". That stems from 'personal preference', so again it all boils down to personal preference. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/13/2009 11:36:29 PM | i don't like or smoke dope. i watched talented people smoke their lives away: tragic. it doesn't affect everyone like that, but it does inhibit ambition, energy, personal outreach, organization, self-discipline and motivation. this was all a long time ago, but the picture of wasted lives is still with me.
not against it on principle, once a month probably is as relaxing as people say. but anyone who can't get through the day or week without it is in huge trouble, and the brain is so fuddled that they can't even tell their lives are slipping away. much worse than alcohol.
take care, be cautious.
JMO | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 4:51:54 AM |
Hmmm. Foxglove, wolfsbane, monkshood, daphne, poison ryegrass, deadly nightshade, and many more are poisonous things that grow and re-seed themselves.
This is the logic of a pot-smoker???
Do you not see the failure of your own thinking? And you talk about logic, wow! | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 10:11:08 AM |
His real father is out of state and not in the picture. There have been a few altercations with my x and my son over the pot. Nothing worked, trust me we did it all....right down to taking the door off the hinges. My son cared so little that he would just be naked and say things like "well you wouldn't have to see me naked if you didn't take the door down". I'm pretty sure that there is nothing we didn't do short of sending him off somewhere for others to put up with him.
I'm a single parent of two teenage sons (I consider my 18 year old a teenager). I both understand and sympathize with your situation. You do the best you can and let go.
I believe in "live and let live." Personally, pot is not for me. As a parent and a woman in her 40's I'm just passed all that. I think I would rather be alert and in control. But if an adult wants to indulge in moderate consumption in the privacy of his/her home, I have no objection to that either. I think it is no worse or better than alcohol and should be decriminalized and taxed in the same way. Just my two cents. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 11:47:55 AM | | Getting stoned on a daily basis makes a person a drug addict. I have no desire to become attached to anyone that is addicted. With that being said a little deviance once and a while is fun and exciting. I would love to get stoned with my lover. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 12:07:27 PM | I will never understand the call to decriminilize something...but then tax it. Can't we ever get the govt out of our back pocket? How do you tax a weed that isn't sold in a pack over the counter? Unless we have failed to recognize the governements are on all out war to combat smoking. Why do you think a pack of cigarettes that now cost seven dollars twenty years ago were selling for a buck fifty.
I don't indulge and have lived with people that couldn't go a day with out it. I don't like the smell. I don't like what the "cause and effects" have done to alot of innocent people.
The only close family members of mine who committed suicide were both under the influence or had done drugs recently. One was about as pro pot as they come.
You will never ever see pot decriminilized. There is too much money on both sides of the fence to be made by keeping it illegal. Drugs stygmatize a group or individual.
There are also sadly too many innocent lives who are affected by this and many other drugs. A mother last month in New York drove down a road and killed 8 people including herself. She was legally intoxicated and she had smoked pot within an hour of the fatal accident. By her use, do the other seven people, four of whom were under ten riding in her vehicle given a fair chance at life? What about the three innocent victims in the other vehicle? Can we say alcohol was the primary factor? Maybe. Can we overlook the pot? I don't think so. Can we say because one is legal the other one should be too? No because if it can be abused it will be.
Society to some extent is built on trust. By allowing it to become legal that will involve people in sensitive jobs being allowed to do it too. Do you want your Pilot, Air Controllers, Surgeons, Train engineers, nuclear plant operators all with the ability to operate under the influence? How much is liability insurance going to cost us? Will doctors even be able to afford malpractice insurance?
For the athlete comment. While many athletes participate and or use drugs would you want to guestimate how many endorsement opportunities Michael Phelps lost by that one photo of him doing it? I bet you it was a pretty penny.
For the Cannabis receptors and 150 pounds comment. All you need to do is drink or smoke enough to overload or suppress the Central Nervous system. A person that is near fatal death with alcohol could have drank as little as a fifth of a bottle of the right alcohol straight and accomplished this. With pot I am guessing all you need to do is get enough carbon monoxide into the blood and that will accomplish the same thing. Certainly don't need 150 pounds though.
There is alot of informative references out there. I believe current policy should remain in effect. For those arguing for sources or references this is one of the better ones that I review periodically. http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/ | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 1:26:26 PM | | I personally don't have a problem with it as long as whom my s/o may be isn't a flunky. If its just every so often about once a month at most. I don't think its as bad as alcohol. If you look at the stats for driving under the influence pot is at most 5% of all accidents vs alcohol which is in the 1000's every year. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 3:16:06 PM | Here's he reasons why I wouldn't want to be with someone who smokes weed:
People who smoke weed are generally lazy and have a lack of ambition.
The desire to get high is usually due to unhappiness about one's self and the world around them. They use it as a coping mechanism. I would rather be with someone who takes their insecurities and problems head on instead of trying to drown them out. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 3:26:22 PM |
People who smoke weed are generally lazy and have a lack of ambition.
Really?
Almost every single one of these names have admited to smoking cannabis.
• Abbie Hoffman
• Abraham Lincoln. On a Hohner box cover but disputed.
• Al Gore.
• Aldous Huxley
• Aleister Crowley
• Alexander Dumas
• Alice B. Toklas
• Allen Ginsberg. Poet.
• Alexis Korner. Musician.
• Andy Warhol. Artist.
• Annita Roddock. Founder 'The Body Shop'.
• Anjelica Huston. Hollywood actress. Jack Nicholson's girlfriend for 17 years. Pro-drug statements by her in Peter McWilliams book, 'Ain't Nobody's Business if You Do: The Absurdity of Consensual Crimes in Our Free Country'.
• Arthur Conan Doyle. Author, creator 'Sherlock Holmes'.
• Aswad. Musicians.
• Beatles.
• Bill Clinton.
• Bill Gates. Not confirmed, just very strongly hinted at in the Playboy interview
• Bill Murray Arrested for possession
• Bob Denver.
• Bob Dylan. Poet, singer, song writer.
• Bob Marley. Poet, singer, song writer.
• The Bishop of Monmouth.
• Brian Eno. Singer, song writer. Signed 'Independent' list.
• Boy George.
• British Lords & MP's - too many to list .
• Buddy Rich.
• Cab Calloway. Jazz musician.
• Carl Sagan. Author.
• Caroline Coon. Artist, founder 'Release', manager of the Clash.
• Carl Segan . Author.
• Carlos Santana. Musician, guitarist.
• Carrie Fischer.
• Cary Grant.
• Cary Mullis. Nobel Laurate, Biology
• Charles Beaudelaire
• Charles****ns. Claims but no evdience.
• Cheech Marin.
• Chris Armstrong. Footballer, tested positive.
• Chris Conrad.
• Chris Farley. 60's singer.
• Chris Rock.
• Conan O'Brian.
• Count Basie. Jazz legend.
• Dame Ruth Runsiman. Author; Police Federation Report (March 2000) advising liberlization.
• Dave Gilmour . Musician ; Pink Floyd.
• Dave 'Tinki Winky' Thompson - TV personality (UK); the Tellie Tubbie that was sacked.
• Diego Rivera.
• Dion Fortune.
• Dioscorides.
• Dizzy Gillespie.
• Douglas Adams. Author.
• Dr Francis Crick. Nobel Prize winner.
• Dr Lester Grinspoon.
• Dr Mark Porter. TV doctor who says cannabis is not more harmful than alcohol.
• Dr Anne Biezanek (authoress)
• Dr R.D.Laing.
• Dr John Marks
• Dr W.B. O'Shaugnessy.
• Drew Barrymore.
• Duke Ellington.
• Eddie Ellison. Ex head of Scotland Yard Drug Squad.
• Edgar Allen Poe. Author, multi-drug user.
• Elvis Presley. Singer, FBI informer.
• Emperor Liu Chi-nu.
• Emperor Shen-Nung.
• Ernest Hemmingway. Author.
• Errol Flynn.
• Fela Kuti. Musician. Afro/jazz king.
• Felix Dennis. Publisher.
• Fitz Hugh Ludlow.
• Fran Healey. Musician; Travis.
• Francis Ford Coppella.
• Francis Rabelais.
• Francis Wilkinson. Ex Chief Constable of Gwent Police.
• Fredreich Nietzshe.
• Ganesh - Hindu God.
• Gary Johnson.
• Gene Krupa.
• George Clinton. Ex President's brother.
• George W Bush. Possibly the greatest living hypocrite.
• George Gurdjieff.
• George Melly. Jazz musician (early sponsor of Legalise Cannabis Campaign, Uk).
• George Michael. Singer.
• George Washington.
• George Soros.
• Gerard de Nerval.
• Gilberto Gil. Brazilian musical icon.
• The Greatful Dead.
• Hasan I-Sabah.
• Heinrich Khunrath.
• Helen Petrova Blavatsky.
• Henri Michaux.
• Herman Hesse.
• Hiero the Second.
• Howard Marks. Author, cannabis smuggller.
• Howard Stern, Admitted it on the radio.
• Hua T'o.
• Hunter S. Thompson. Smoked weed and snorted coke with George Bush.
• Ian Botham. Convicted Cricket legend.
• Irvine Welsh.
• Kurt Cobain.
• Jabir Ibn el-Hayyan.
• Jack Herer. Author 'The Emporor Wears No Cloths'
• Jack Kerouac. Author ' On the Road'.
• Jack Nicholson. Film actor.
• Jackie Gleason.
• Jackson Pollock.
• Jane Fonda. Actress.
• James Brown. Singer, song writer.
• Janis Joplin. Singer, song writer.
• Jesse 0Ventura.
• Jerry Lee Lewis. Musician, song writer.
• Jimmy Dorsey.
• Jimmy Hendrix. Rock guitarist, singe, song writer
• Jim Morrison. Musician, songwriter; The Doors.
• Joan of Arc. Accused of using 'witch herbs' (another name for cannabis).
• Joan Rivers.
• Joe Strummer. Musician, singer, songer writer; The Clash.
• John Belushi.
• John Denver.
• John F Kennedy. Popular US president (assassinated).
• John Keats. Poet.
• John Lennon. Musician, song writer; The Beatles.
• John Le Mesurier. Tried it but said it's not for him.
• Johnny Cash.
• John Peel. DJ, BBC broadcaster.
• John Sinclair.
• Judge John L. Kane. Chief Judge from the US District Court
• Julie Christie. Actress.
• Jules Verne.
• John Wayne. 'I tried it once but it didn't do anything to me.'
• Kelsey Grammar.
• Ken Livingston. Mayor of London - supports decriminalisation but does not smoke or support the use of recreational drugs.
• Kirk Douglas. Actor.
• Kurt Cobain.
• Larry Adler. Harmonica player and
friend of George Gershwin. May have written a song about it.
• Lenny Bruce. Comedian.
• Lewis Carroll. Author 'Alice in Wonderland'.
• Linda St Clair
• Little Richard. Musician.
• Lord Avebury.
• Lord Byron. Poet.
• Lord Deedes.
• Lord Tony Gifford. QC, civil rights lawyer.
• Louis Armstrong. 'Oh what a wonderful world'.
• Louis Hebert.
• Mark Thomas . Comedian.
• Marlon Brando. Actor.
• Martin Sheen.
• Mary Shelly. Author 'Frankinstein'.
• Mary Tyler Moore.
• Mick Jagger. Singer, song writer, The Rolling Stones.
• Michael Mansfield QC. Lawyer.
• Jade Jagger.
• JC 100. Fastest rapper in the west.
• JT Moore. Legendary white rasta guitarist.
• Mike Tyson.
• Miles Davis. Jazz/rock drummer.
• Mo Mowlan. Genuine honest politician.
• Modigliani. Sculptor.
• Montgomery Clift. Mentioned in his biography.
• Neil Diamond.
• Nick Hornby. Author.
• Niel Young. Musician.
• Norman Mailer. Author.
• Oasis. Rock band.
• Oliver Stone.
• Oscar Wilde. Poet.
• Pablo Picasso. Artist.
• Pancho Villa. Mexican bandit revolutionary.
• Paul Flynn. Uk Member of Parliament.
• Paul McCartney. Musician, song writer; The Beatles.
• Paul Simon. Musician, song writer.
• Pharoahs of Egypt. Traces in body samples.
• Phil Donohue.
• Phil Tufnell. Former test cricketer, now media celeb.
• Peter Fonda. Actor; 'Easy Rider'.
• Peter Sellers. Actor, comedian.
• Peter Tosh. Musician.
• Philip K.**** Science fiction author.
• Pierre Burton.
• Pierre Elliot Trudeau.
• Pink Floyd; Syd Barret and Roger Waters.
• Prince Charles. Heir to the Throne. Quoted while visiting a hospital; 'I understand cannabis is good for medical use' .
• Prince William.
• Prince Harry.
• Pythagoras.
• Queen Arnegunde.
• Queen Victoria. Used it for medical purposes.
• Ram Dass.
• Ray Charles. Musician.
• Rev Kenneth Leech.
• Richard Branson. 'Virgin'. Entreprenur.
• Richard Feynman, Nobel Prize Laureate physicist, founder of quantum electrodynamics.
• Richard Prior.
• Richard Wilson. Actor; 'One Foot in the Grave'.
• Rimbaud. Author.
• Robert Burns. Mentioned it in a poem.
• Robert 'King' Carter. Grower.
• Robert Anton Wilson. Author.
• Robert Mitchum. Jailed 90 days for possession of marijuana, 1949.
• Roger McGough. 60's liverpool poet.
• Rolling Stones. Rock band.
• Ronnie Scot. Jazz club owner, musician, busted on stage 1958, at his club in Soho, London.
• S Club 7. 'Super clean' pop band, busted in Soho, very embarrassing.
• Salvador Dali. Artist.
• Samuel Beckett.
• Samuel Taylor Coleridge. Poet.
• Shen Nung. One of the fathers of Chinese medicine. 2700 B.C .
• Sinead O'Connor. Singer.
• Sidi-Hidi.
• Sigmun Freud. Shrink.
• Sonny Bono.
• Super Furry Animals. Welsh band who wrote a song about Howard Marks.
• Stephen King.
• Sting/Gordon Sumners.
• Tariq Ali. Activist Writer.
• Tenessee Williams. Author.
• Terence McKenna. Author.
• Terry Gilliam. Actor, comedian;Monty Python.
• The Who. Rock band.
• Thelonius Monk.
• Thomas Jefferson.
• Timothy Leary.
• Tom Lehrer.
• Top Tories. Senior members of the shadow cabinet.
• Tony Elliot. Publisher, 'Time Out.
• Tracy Blevins. Artist.
• Tuppy Gore.
• UB40. Band.
• Victor Hugo.
• Vincent Van Gogh. Artist.
• Walt Disney. Cartoonist.
• Walter Benjamin.
• Whitney Houstonn. Busted at Hawaii airport but ran away.
• William Burroughs. Author, poet, artist.
• Will Self. Author. Did smack on Blairs plane.
• William Shakespeare. Playwright.
• William Straw. UK Home Sec Jack Straw's son. Cautioned for supplying undercover journalists in pub 'shocker'.
• Willie Nelson.
• Winston Churchill. British Prime Minister, poet, artist & multi drug user.
• Woody Harrelson. Actor. Features in a book on growing medical marijuana .
• Zoroaster. Persian prophet.
http://boards.cannabis.com/activism/72501-famous-people-smoke-weed.html
Sure is A LOT of lazy people... | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 3:52:46 PM | Low achievers every one 
People who smoke weed are generally lazy and have a lack of ambition.
What utter rubbish. I find that people who make statements like that are generally intellectually lazy and simply repeat puerile talking points because they generally have none of their own. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 4:02:06 PM | My previous statement:
People who smoke weed are generally lazy and have a lack of ambition.
Isn't backed by any kind of scientific evidence. It's simply my own personal observations of people I know or have met that smoke weed on a regular basis.
The list posted earlier isn't a very good one. There are exceptions to every rule, but besides that most of the people on that list are artists/musicians. Its not a big surprise that artists and musicians use drugs. Some of the people on that list is just not true as well. For example, George Washington did not smoke weed. He just grew hemp at his home in Virginia according to his diary. A lot of the others listed are people who smoked in college or simply tried it. I wouldn't call that regular use of marijuana. | |
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| Strong opinions on pot smoking here and abouts; why?
Posted: 9/14/2009 4:45:07 PM | | sat, i respect that you base this veiw on who you know but in the defence of the potheads i know, it always depends on the person. The motivations for doing it and more important what they do when their high. for example i know a certain writer..ahem.. who partakes a bit when he's feeling writers block. | |
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