| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 7:44:37 AM |
Well, I wouldn't trade my life for that family's curse, would you rick?
Maybe theirs something to all that "Karma" business.
I never have raped a woman , I've never "drowned" a woman, I wouldn't drag my country into Vietnam, and my daddy didn't start "camelot" with a fortune made from "moonshine"
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 7:52:55 AM | It's funny you make a joke about a political party and they take it seriously.
(another reason NOT to be a republican)
I wonder why people assume if you make a joke about one party you belong
to the other?
I wouldn't join EITHER party if it was mandatory and there were free snacks
involved.
and PS...my state has the lowest divorce rate in the nation...figure that one out.
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 8:06:01 AM |
Margaret Trudeau was a rarity, a real human who wasn't concerned with the fall from grace...but more concerned with living an authentic life as Authentic Margaret...she is one of the stellar woman in the eyes of most males of my generation....Tis true...I kid not. She's a cut above.
She did what alot of women do post split-up. Calling it "authentic" and calling it "acting out" are two different things.
I did it, too. When my husband and I split, I was a woman high on freedom! My life and my choices! I partied with the best and I did things that I normally would never do and don't do now. It was called "acting out". I know that and it was part of the closure that must happen for healing to start.
I think men do it, too. Have you?
But, when you enter the world of politics, there is a responsibility that you must carry out. It is a job, too. Do it well. There is no need to embarass your husband or the country with inappropriate behaviour because you cannot deal with being married.
What do husbands normally do when the estranged wife embarasses him at his workplace?
Of Note: Princess Di split up with a King to be because of his picadellos. She did it with class and didn't embarass him. People remember that for a long time.
Margaret's authenticity that I give her kudos for is to beat her substance abuse problems, to get her self respect back, and to forge a marriage with a man who she was more in tune with. She has dealt with the grief of losing a son and my heart goes out to her. | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 10:01:13 AM | There's little that I can add that hasn't been said....er.....written already.
Would I stay? Absolutely not. I couldn't see myself being married to a politician in the first place.
I wonder how much this may play into it: People involved in politics tend to be judged from the outside. Everything is a finely organized package. And if you live like that for a certain amount of time, I think your self worth can easily get tied to that picture. You start to lose who you really are. How often have you heard women say that they've lost their identity in their marriage? So, if this can happen in normal every day life, wouldn't it be even manifold in a political marriage?
So, I think for many of these wives it could be that this is what they identify themselves with. It may not have anything to do with the material things that the marriage brings, but rather, that they lost their own identity in this union, due to it being so public.
And many times people stay in a negative situation, because they don't know what else to do. This is what their whole identity is wrapped up in. How many people here have written about having stayed in a 15 year marriage and now they don't know why they didn't get out earlier? How many people stay with abusers, physical or emotional. If your whole self is wrapped up in the situation, then it's hard to let go.
It's a lot easier for us to look at this with the left sign of the brain and say 'of course, this is what I'd do, if I was in that situation.....' | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 10:06:47 AM | I've always suspected that Bill and Hilary Clinton had an understanding and some degree of openness to their relationship, and that he messed that up by being stupid about how and with whom he choose to act on that openness.
I'd make a poor politician's wife for many reasons, and wouldn't get involved with one if I could help it. That said, whether or not I chose to stay with my partner, I can't imagine I'd sit around in public for the aftermath--he could deal with that himself regardless of the outcome for the relationship. | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 10:16:13 AM | The comedy series Little Britain USA does it best, it features a high profile politician standing in front of his mansion with frumpy wife and two kids standing alongside in total silence whhilst he explains a totally guilty and awkward situation --"and at that time a part of my body accidentally entered hers" ! hilarious, but agree just bs for public consumption whenever they do that. Believe that discretion should be the order of the day and one should face music on their own instead of humiliating a partner! | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 10:25:28 AM | Gang-banger (Canadian context):
1. Someone who is a gang member
2. Someone who won't fight fair and even if they do and they lose the fight they'll just come back later with friends, weapons, the element of surprise, or a combination of those three advantages.
[followed by definition #3 Group sex -- Urban Dictionary] | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 10:43:55 AM |
And ya know - who the Hell are all you people to look at em and judge them for their choices?
The son of a dead Vietnam veteran (also have a son that was required to register for the draft)
I think Rick had a typo issue also but maybe it's just his drawl showing through his post?
 You're right, i really should hit the "spell check "more often, but I'm waiting for "the govt." to take care of it for me (now , that wasn't a judgement was it ? cause that would make you a hypocrite)
Ew I have a visual on some of your shorts. It's not pretty.
I don't know why, but for some reason, that doesn't surprise me
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 10:46:36 AM | | If his career is in her unacknowledged top 5 reasons she's married to the guy, whether he's a politician, doctor, lawyer, cop, fireman...she ain't going nowhere. And many studies and anecdotal evidence suggest that for many women, his career (they'll call it ambitions...goals...all that...but it's the same thing) is definitely in the top 5 when choosing a long term partner. Go research for yourself before you flame me btw ladies... | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 11:34:50 AM |
Bo- baby you mean Heinz don't you? Not Hines.
Yeah, Heinz, that's it.
I always remember that she came out special to tell the waitstaff that the 'band' wasn't allowed to eat. All of that ketchup heiress $$, and I thought.."what an Assz", don't feed the Bass Player, hahaha. Hey, save a buck here and there...make a point.
Aaaanyway, my brain must have translated it into Hines....which is kindof close to Hiney.
A simple neuron slip...perhaps. ;0p
thanks XO
Bo | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 12:04:28 PM | I never understand why one party thinks the other party thinks the government
should take care of them.
It's funny because the party making that accusation is the party that's all for
government intervention when it comes to personal choices such as marriage
or abortion. They want to take that choice away, but god forbid you talk about
gun control.
I guess THAT party is only interested in the government taking care of you as
long as they can peek in your windows.
This thread is a perfect example of why dating and politics don't mix.
This is also an example of why I'll have nothing to do with either party.
It tends to turn you into something you'd hardly recognize if you looked in the mirror.
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 12:11:18 PM | UUmmm.....second amendment The right to bear arms (stupid constitution !)
Abortion ......some crazy idea about the man having some say in HIS offspring
This is also an example of why I'll have nothing to do with either party.
The worst thing for a good man to do........is nothing. | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 12:13:01 PM |
I simply don't believe he fooled 435 members of congress , 15 foreign countries and their leaders,
The information given to congress and the public was bogus and cherry picked. Thank you V.P. Darth Cheney. Everyone knows the WMD was bs. | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 12:39:06 PM |
Easy there Blues, you're talking smack about Cheney in the Dating Forums. Can someone relocate this dammed thread to politics please so Rick doesn't have to cleverly attempt to hide his political affiliations with the He Man Woman Haters Club????
Like i said before.............Who's spewing hatred ?............ hypocrite | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 1:32:07 PM | When you "sign up for" a life in politics, you sign up for an intrusion into your privacy and that intrusion needs to be managed... that is whether you are the politician, the spouse or the family of the politician. What we see in the public eye may not necessarily reflect what is being said in the privacy of ones own home.
For a spouse of a disgraced politician, adding fuel to the fire will only increase the level of pressure on the entire family. The SMART thing to do is to persevere and wait for the situation to play itself out in the press.
Someone in this thread mentioned what are they teaching the children by standing by their father? Really? One sees nothing redeeming in supporting someone in trouble even if their actions have also hurt you personally? There is a lot of good one can teach children in this sort of situation, and a lot of potential harm from flinging even more pooh in the media. | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 4:24:40 PM | Disgraced politician's wives stand because such women have no backbone, brains, and self respect. That's what I stated earlier if you were paying attention at all, which you clearly were not. Clearly, you are under the impression that simply because you think and say something, it is the gospel truth.
Hmmm someone condones cheating. Some of us DO NOT! Please show me where I state that I condone cheating. That is what you are alluding to in your words is it not? I shall patiently await your sifting through the posts to give me the definitive quote where I state this…
I find it entirely amusing how someone can spin something as disgusting as being betrayed and applaud someone for tolerating it. Maybe they should have a "doormat" trophy or something for the biggest loser who puts up with the most... I respect the fact that they aren’t airing their private issues that have stemmed from the original issue publicly. | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 4:45:08 PM |
I respect the fact that they aren’t airing their private issues that have stemmed from the original issue publicly.
Talk about having your head in the sand. These things are ALREADY public - get it? Maybe you have the doormat syndrome but a lot of smart savvy women here don't and I agree with them. | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 4:49:34 PM |
Talk about having your head in the sand. These things are ALREADY public - get it? Maybe you have the doormat syndrome but a lot of smart savvy women here don't and I agree with them. Now this is an absolute leap.
I'm a doormat simply because I respect the fact that someone wants to maintain as much privacy as possible during an extremely trying time?
If it helps you to sleep at night believing that... by all mean... | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 4:58:04 PM | | Hillary still stayed with Slick Willie despite affairs with Paula Jones, Jennifer Flowers, and Monica Lewinsky. If she was an unknown, an average citizen, people would think "She's hanging in there? Where is her self respect?" They may think that about Hillary, but they also must realize she is staying to benefit her own political career. But behind closed doors in private, God only knows what she must have said to him. | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 5:14:33 PM | [qoute]Can anyone explain to me the need or benefits or reasoning behind why the wives are dragged (or voluntarily appear) before the cameras?
Who said they drag their wives anywhere? Seems to me that most people have the option on how they wish to handle that which they face.
He created the mess on his own ....so why get (wife) involved. As far as I know, the wives don't make any impact on the outcome...these guys usually gets kicked out of office regardless.
LOL !! Wide Stance Craig didn't get kicked out of office. That would never happen here in Idaho. No one acknowledges that he is and has always been gay and that his marriage is and has always been one of convenience, but no one was going to kick him out of anything. That would have meant those who voted for him overlooked the obvious. (Not many get kicked out of office for indiscretions, that's a silly statement if you look historically at political figures in the US.) JMO | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/17/2009 8:43:39 PM | why should they leave?
what would leaving do for them when they have everything they want?
in the beginning they appear hurt, betrayed and all that other good stuff but they're determined to get past it and they stay with him and punish him everyday.
you don't think they don't have some knock-down drag-out fights...
they're human, their just like any other american married couple but their richer for the most part and have servants, good schools for their kids, the best automobiles, drivers, hair stylists, people that design their clothes, bank accounts and shop wherever and whenever they want in the most exclusive stores ever ever ever...
i wouldn't leave either just because he stuck his d*ck in some dumb bit*h because look who ends up with it all in the end anyway.
it's the perfect way of shoving it in the whores face that she didn't get the man and the wife looks like the victim, the saint...
so really, i think it's a combination of a whole lot of stuff that she stands by her man.
women are like that ya know. | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/18/2009 3:21:19 AM | bluesman2008,
i'm not saying that they're right in what they do...
i'm just saying that people walk around everyday with the attitude that they don't care what anyone else thinks, they're going to do what they want to do anyway.
people always put on that front that they don't care what anyone says or how much they stare or are ridiculed....but it doesn't stop the fact that they're dying inside from they pain of it all.
people are motivated by many many things like fear, anger, betrayal, hatred, jealousy and a whole host of other reasons.
these things are great motivators as many times when something like this which is embarrassing and humiliating happens they react the only way they know how while others react the way they do because they have an agenda.
sometimes the wife has an inkling of what's going on and maybe by this becoming public, the burden is lifted off of her and now she's not the only one that knows and she no longer has to suspect anymore.
not just women but men as well do some weird stuff but then again, we're not in their shoes. | |
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| Why Do Disgraced Politicians' Wives Stand by their Side?
Posted: 9/18/2009 3:50:50 AM |
They may think that about Hillary, but they also must realize she is staying to benefit her own political career.
But behind closed doors in private,
God only knows what she must have said to him.
Don’t I give a good blow job? | |
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