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Posted: 9/26/2009 3:02:59 PM | "the media is treating the H1N1 pandemic as just another fluff story"
THAT sounds an awful lot like you accusing the media of "covering up" the real seriousness of H1N1. Thanks for proving my previous statement. That took less time than I expected
Second of all, you are SOOOO incorrect in that. The media are ALL OVER the H1N1 pandemic. May I remind you, AntiDate, that, like it or not, the vast majority of information you receive comes courtesy the media, so, unless you have some kind of inside knowledge (ie, unless you, personally, are involved with the clinical testing), virtually everything you have found out comes from the media.
In other words, either you are admitting total ignorance on the subject (because clearly the media, in your eyes, are not offering anywhere near full disclosure), or you should really think twice about what you are saying. | |
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Posted: 9/26/2009 9:50:23 PM | I have been doing of thinking about it.
I have an immune system that with proper rest and good diet and hand washing , exercise & vitamins, will be in it"s fine fighting form.
I find those types of vaccines to be scary (especially one so new) and will wait to see how this will unfold.
I think about the long term effects once they are in our bodies and the breakdown of them and what they turn into. I have had regular flu shots for years and last year I did not . I always was feeling sick and draggy for days after ward..my allergies perhaps to whatever chemicals are in the vaccine. So for now I say no. Just don't have a good gut feeling about it.
Alternative sources abound. I would not interfere in anothers decision..do your research
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Posted: 9/26/2009 9:54:31 PM | May I remind you, AntiDate, that, like it or not, the vast majority of information you receive comes courtesy the media
I don't know what it is you're trying to get across except that you have a low tolerance for people who hold opinions that differ from your own. You do, however, come across as pompous ass.
My opinion differs from yours. Other than espousing that the media is ALL OVER the issue you haven't provided any details that would persuade me to change my point of view. If you can't be respectful of someone else's opinion perhaps you need to stop being so aggressive - it works well with other men but women aren't easily swayed by bullies. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 7:08:13 AM | @ Golf, I'm pretty sure I know who Anitdate is and lemme tell ya fella, yer barking up the wrong tree here!
They (the media, WHO, CDC..whoever) are suggesting that children get two shots for this strain of flu. I'm a little weiry about getting new shitt pumped into my kids.....it's a PANDEMIC not EPIDEMIC, so how about simply practicing proper hygene, proper nutrition, keep the brats home when they're sick...blahblah.
As for me? Not touchin the needle. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 7:16:55 AM |
I did watch the doctors on TV and they said certain things are ok to pick up but of course Id never let them do it in a hospital or off a dog poo
Lol, dog pooh is SO overrated ha ha! 
Despite my experiences with vaccinations (I use my smallpox scar for ID lol), I still had my son immunized. No flu shots, though.
I think as a society we are becoming to diligent with getting rid of germs. To many people loading up on hand sanitizers, over usage of anti biotics and the like
I agree heartily with this. I firmly believe the over-sterilization of homes, and the adding of antibiotics and preservatives to pre-made foods is causing the increase in kids with allergies and asthma. I've always cooked mainly from scratch, and my son and I haven't been sick for years. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 12:04:03 PM | I don't know what it is you're trying to get across except that you have a low tolerance for people who hold opinions that differ from your own. You do, however, come across as pompous ass... Other than espousing that the media is ALL OVER the issue you haven't provided any details that would persuade me to change my point of view.
Hello pot, my name is kettle. You sure are black.
You on the other hand, come across as someone who resorts to name calling to support an argument.
You are right in one regard. I DO have a low tolerance, for people who manipulate media reports to slag me and my profession without knowing what the heck they are talking about. | |
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Posted: 9/27/2009 1:52:00 PM | Yes, I have had 6 already, and I feel great!..
Another shot of Crown, with water on the side please!..
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Posted: 10/26/2009 2:40:47 PM | | Got the H1N1 vaccination today. Went to the Richmond Road venue (former alberta children's hospital). It took five hours...ouch! | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 3:24:53 PM | So what yer telling us all Chair is that now you're full of mercury?? lol
Holy shitt, 5 hours??!! I'll tell ya, that if one isn't sick before they go into a mosh pit of germs like these clinics, they're sick leaving!!
JMO
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Posted: 10/26/2009 3:33:26 PM | Now now Sammie its THIMEROSAL thats in the shot, preserving it.... not mercury at least thats what the public health nurse will tell ya
What she/he won't tell you is that about 80% of flu vaccines contain as much as 24 micrograms of mercury per dose. The Environmental Protection Agency's SAFE limit for mercury exposure is 0.1 microgams per kilo......so only a 550-pound person could receive a flu vaccine and fall within the EPA's safe exposure limit.
Yah, I'll go get myself a shot.... only probably NOT.
They aren't telling people that those who are dying are NOT dying from the flu, but respiratory complications from having the flu.... | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 3:43:02 PM | | Oh, so now I'm an old thermometer. Always some kind of unintended consequences isn't there? We shall see... Anyways, I certainly believe it was the prudent thing to do based on what I think is important. I do hope they can streamline the vaccination process though, for others that also would rather not have to deal with this virus in one way or another. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 4:30:07 PM | True Chairman, you gotta do what's right for you. I personally have never had a flu shot, and I'm thinking my immune system is adequate to fight of this mega virus hits me.
Remember, the vacines were distributed throughout Canada a week prior to it even being ok'd by the Feds. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 4:38:03 PM | | Mercury is a well-established neuro-toxin.... a substance that is damagng to the brain and nervous system. I do believe that it has been connected with brain diseases like Alzheimer's. But hey, like Sammie said, each person has to do what he/she feels is right. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 5:19:24 PM | NO SHOT for myself or my son. We are both High risk.
Family doc has advised against it.
Will be increasing Vitamin D intake!
An agency of the Canadian Government is studying the role of vitamin D in preventing the onset or mitigating the severity of the flu infection. Numerous studies have shown that a deficiency of vitamin D is linked to influenza infections. The Harvard Medical School, that normally recommends getting vitamins through food, makes an exception for supplementing with vitamin D. The good news is that the vitamin D supplements that duplicate the form D3 made by our bodies in sunlight are very inexpensive. The D3 form that is more readily absorbed by our bodies is preferred over the less potent form D2. Together with eating a healthy diet and getting enough sleep, supplementing with vitamin D3 will support a layered defense against infection by the H1N1 flu.
The main reason we will NOT get the shot is because of the additive Squalene. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 5:59:41 PM | My opinion on the whole "get a flu shot" is best summarized by Chris Rock in the following 2 minute rant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7P4iFg048k
"Ain't no money in the cure, the money's in the medicine...that's how a drug dealer makes his money, on the comeback. That government's a bunch of mother****ing drug dealers"
big pharmaceuticals = big medicine = big money. Same companies that make this stuff make all the meds I see on TV at night telling if I feel tired I should take this pill *but the side effects include nausea, loss of limbs, high blood pressure & in extreme cases, death" Ain't much difference between those dudes & the dude on the corner.
Once again Chris Rock says it best
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0V0Et2owbI | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 6:04:06 PM | | How and why some POF'ers apparently portray themselves as scientists or authorities on health issues is puzzling... lol. I got the shot...not a whole lot more for me to do now. lol. I know I definitely won't be worrying about all the fish I've ever eaten, or those damn dental fillings, or who knows how many fluorescent tube lights I smashed as a kid. But I will always wear a seatbelt. All the best to everyone this flu season. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 6:34:31 PM | here is something to think about...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbqwoxJADsg&NR=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSKvDQ9OkNM
rare yes, but I'll take my chances with a runny nose, headaches and fever thank you. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 6:57:11 PM | At first we weren't going to get either shot, but have thought about it some more, discussed it and decided it's best we do.
My daughter has a 2 month old baby and I shall be damned if I am going to give her the flu.
Roll my sleeve up, quick stab, and it's done.
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Posted: 10/26/2009 7:11:21 PM | How and why some POF'ers apparently portray themselves as scientists or authorities on health issues is puzzling... lol Probably because a lot of them are employed in the health care sector and have an education greater than grade 10  | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 7:19:24 PM | Thanx-hold ur horses! I won't be getting either flu shot being offered this year!!!
Please can we be civil here! Exercise some well known practices to prevent illness and if you or your children are sick,stay home.
The swine flu H1N1 virus is categorized as a type A influenza. Seasonal flu can be Norwalk or any of a multitude of viruses, often with a bacterial component added. Make an informed decision regarding the vaccines, and carry on with your life. We are already having the second outbreak of H1N1. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 7:33:16 PM | I work in health care and I am getting both the seasonal flu and H1N1 vaccines. I would not even consider not doing it at this point. While Sassy maybe right that a lot are not dying due to H1N1, but rather respiratory complications such a pneumonia. They would not be getting pneumonia or "respiratory complications" had their immune systems not been compromised due to H1N1. Pregnant woman are most susceptible to dying from H1N1 and pneumonia related complications because they have less lung capacity. The most people dying from H1N1 are pregnant woman and children under 15. I have 5 kids and I would much rather reduce their risk of H1N1 rather than any of them possibly dying. My opinions on H1N1 have vastly changed after talking with co~workers, other nurses, MDs, OBs and researching science/medical based facts. Most people minimize the severity of influenza or follow all the conspiracy theories out there, which can and will pose a problem in the future. H1N1 is the first strain of influenza to not go away during the summer. To me that is scary in itself. Its scientifically proven that these strains become stronger and can mutate into something more fatal than what we have now.
Just a little tip. If your child does become ill with flu like symptoms(fever, headache, fatigue, dry cough,muscle aches and pain, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea), the biggest warning sign that its time to go to the doctor is if they are getting better and then all of a sudden get worse.
http://www.wired.com/magazine/2009/10/ff_waronscience_h1n1myths/ | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 7:35:08 PM | | Norwalk is not influenza!!! Norwalk (which there is no vaccine for) is a gastrointestinal illness(stomach bug) and influenza is respiratory. Completely different illnesses. Aside from H1N1 typical seasonal influenza has no gastrointestinal symptoms. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 7:41:59 PM | | I also work in health care and have exposure to both medical and holistic doctors. I won't be receiving the vaccine(s) and that is my choice based on educational reasoning. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 7:42:40 PM | Up until last year I had regular flu shots with no side effects. However I have had a year of feeling awful for at least a week every month.In fact there were a couple of months that I booked off work a bit too often to suit my employer.I had all the symptoms described ^^^. As a result I am not going to take a chance on a more severe reaction this year and will tough it out if/when it strikes. | |
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Posted: 10/26/2009 7:50:36 PM | | My daughter and I will both be getting the H1N1 shot. Not immediately because of these long wait times. Probably early next week. We're completely healthy with very good immune systems but I think this flu is particularly bad and the chance of getting a reaction to the shot is miniscule in comparison to getting very sick with H1N1. Whether it's the flu or respiratory complications from it.....I don't want either. | |
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