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Posted: 9/29/2009 2:33:58 AM | OP, one thing you might want to do, is take a weekly or monthly full body shot. Then you can really see the progression after a few months!!!
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Posted: 10/4/2009 6:25:58 AM | It's a tough question. I mean, are you athletic with a flat stomach or do you need a full on six pack? There are guys who describe themselves as athletic when they're just skinny, and to me there's nothing athletic about being pencil thin.
I suppose you just have to go with your own judgment. Probably the best option is to have a picture or two of yourself in clothes that, whilst not revealing, show a little of your build, how flat your stomach is, that sort of thing, so people can judge for themselves. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 10:19:15 AM | Athletic to me is a man or woman who takes their training seriously.
Therefore when I think of an athletic man or women it could be a variety of body types depending on their chosen sport.
Obviously a Powerlifter is going to look a lot different than a Runner or Dancer.
And be humble about your body type. If you are unsure of what you are post average or whatever. Use it as motivation to lift harder.
Also a few people mentioned it earlier but you need to adopt a healthy lifestyle and drop the dieting thing man. It isn't hard if you load your kitchen with the right foods and start a good heavy compound routine along with hiit or other cardio. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 10:24:05 AM | And be humble about your body type. If you are unsure of what you are post average or whatever. Use it as motivation to lift harder.
Sounds like some good advice. In lieu of it, why are you listed as "athletic" and not "thin" or "avg"?
Also, athletic is not about how you train, it's about the results of that training. A 300# guy with 40% body-fat and no stamina is not athletic at all no-matter how hard he trains until those numbers have shifted a great deal. All he gets for now is A for effort and a pat on the back for realizing that he can improve himself. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 10:29:27 AM |
Also, athletic is not about how you train, it's about the results of that training. A 300# guy with 40% body-fat and no stamina is not athletic at all no-matter how hard he trains until those numbers have shifted a great deal. All he gets for now is A for effort and a pat on the back for realizing that he can improve himself.
I think he's referring to athleticism from a performance perspective where you and the topic are referring to it from an aesthetic perspective.
While a 300lb guy at 40% bodyfat isn't athletic looking in the slightest, if he's got a 900lb squat then he's pretty damn athletic for powerlifting.
Stamina is irrelevant to athleticism if you're considering it from a sport specific standpoint. It may be relevant to a distance runner but it means nothing to a shot putter, a powerlifter, a O lifter, or whatever.
If you're talking about general arbitrary standards for athleticism, I'd argue that basic levels of strength are at least as important as stamina... I'd hardly call someone who couldn't do a good few dips and pullups, bench at least their bodyweight and squat and dead twice it especially athletic, let alone strong.
In terms of looks I suppose it would require low levels of bodyfat, moderate levels of muscle and that's about it. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 11:25:05 AM | I consider myself athletic.
I used to be a distance runner and about 10 months ago switched into power lifting. I'd think my lifts are pretty decent for my weight. A year ago I would of said average or thin, I was a lot thinner then with visible abs . I was 160 pounds then, I am 185ish now and am a lot thicker but my bf has raised to around 13-15.
I also agree with the second part, but most people could probably switch to athletic after 6 months - year if they are dedicated enough with the right program(s)/nutrition plan. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 11:29:20 AM | | Depends on what they started at. Sounds like you are nowhere near as thin as your pictures suggest. Instead of updating your profile, update pic? Your pic just does not portray you as your "body-type "claims. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 11:38:13 AM | I have progress pics but I post them in another health and fitness forum.
I'm here more to make connections and talk with people than to date, so I don't necessarily feel the need to post a picture of my quads just to back up the fact I can squat and deadlift decent numbers for my progression rate.
I am not meaning to sound biting here I just am stating why I personally have my body type the way it is. | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 11:40:37 AM | Noone said post a pic of your quads, just that the skinny guy wrapped in a sweater in horrible lighting is kindof at odds with the actuality that you claim.
www.eatcleanlifthard.com is the forum I post my quads on, lol | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 11:40:58 AM | not to mention my first picture is around 6 months old.
The second is my most recent. I just like the first one more  | |
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Posted: 10/4/2009 1:17:43 PM | | jwg86 thank you for posting the eatcleanlifthard.... what a good site.... just joined so will take a more detailed look later. x | |
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Posted: 10/7/2009 1:04:33 AM | Thanks too, for www.eatcleanlifthard.com I too, just joined.
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Posted: 10/7/2009 6:24:54 AM | Body fat percentages:
Description Women Men
Essential fat 10–12% 2–4%
Athletes 14–20% 6–13%
Fitness 21–24% 14–17%
Acceptable 25–31% 18–26%
Overweight 32-41% 27-37%
Obese 42%+ 38%+
From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_fat_percentage
Easy peasy. | |
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Posted: 10/7/2009 1:50:09 PM | | Can you still be bigger but have a higher muscle to fat percentage? | |
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Posted: 10/7/2009 2:25:55 PM | Absolutely. And the converse is true as well. A guy who weighs 150 pounds but has 30% bodyfat is what is known as "skinny-fat". They have no tone or muscle, it's all fat. It's true with women as well. Outside the airbrushing, a lot of models are skinny-fat.
The vast vast vast majority of women who are 'skinny' aren't really skinny -- they just have no muscle tone. | |
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Posted: 10/7/2009 11:31:28 PM |
At what point should I change my "body type" in my profile from "a few extra pounds" to "athletic"?
Having a six-pack or not has diddly to do with it. Just don't have a ginormous beer gut.
Sports performance also is irrelevant. I've seen middle-of-the-pack (3:30-4:00) marathoners with paunches, and guys who can bench press 315lbs with love handles.
Visually, I'd say any guy whose waist circumference does NOT exceed his chest and most certainly does not exceed his shoulder width might pass as "athletic."
More clearly "athletic" would be any guy with shoulders that are noticeably wider than his hips, forming a V-shape sort of upper torso, with good muscle tone (but not necessarily tons of mass) in his arms and legs. | |
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Posted: 10/8/2009 1:50:08 AM | [quoteVisually, I'd say any guy whose waist circumference does NOT exceed his chest and most certainly does not exceed his shoulder width might pass as "athletic."
I'd say you're being pretty generous there. A 40 inch wist is enormous and a 40 inch chest is tiny, yet by those standards that's borderline athletic.
I'd say there would definitely need to be some sort of minimum ratio of chest circumference:waist circumference that favours a noticeably larger chest, maybe 10:7 at least or something. | |
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Posted: 10/8/2009 7:02:50 AM |
I'd say there would definitely need to be some sort of minimum ratio of chest circumference:waist circumference that favours a noticeably larger chest, maybe 10:7 at least or something.
I'd agree, though a shoulder-to-waist ratio I think would be even better.
Avoids the problem of man-boobs. | |
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Posted: 10/8/2009 8:49:23 AM | Having an athletic body means you can do athletic things. It doesn't mean what you look like. And there are different types of athleticism. Hence different types of athletic bodies. From a 440 lb strongman to a 140 lb trackstar they are both considered athletic but in their own rights. And they are usually very specialized enjoy being a little more well rounded. Well not physically well rounded, you know what I mean. Take care of yourself. | |
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Posted: 10/8/2009 1:27:50 PM | At the end of the day, for the purpose of a dating site 'athletic build' must be purely asthetic as the first thing the majority of people do is check out the profile photo.
I see guys who lift very heavy weights who have bulked up but they have large girths~mostly because they love their beer too much~and to me that would not constitute athletic for this purpose though I am sure they would be very quick to put themselves in that catagory on a site such as this.
I have seen a number of men who state they are athletic build and in their photos they just look what I would call average.
Sizing for a man would see the waistline being at least 10 - 14 inches smaller than the chest. | |
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Posted: 10/8/2009 1:43:46 PM | "Having an athletic body means you can do athletic things. It doesn't mean what you look like"
What part of "body type" is so hard for you to understand....that wasnt even the question of this thread or other threads....otherwise, it would ask for "activity level"....
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Posted: 10/8/2009 2:06:44 PM | ^^^ Exactly! Are we going to let plus sized women say they have athletic body types simply because they can run 8k and play in a recreational volleyball league?
As some of us have stated, it's aesthetic based, not performanced. | |
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Posted: 10/8/2009 3:52:43 PM | I have seen a number of men who state they are athletic build and in their photos they just look what I would call average.
Well, this is where it would actually be helpful to have MEN post their measurements (assuming that they don't lie, of course)---because the way that 90% of mens clothing sold in the US is cut, you can't really tell that a guy who's not bodybuilder-huge is athletic because it's very hard to find shirts or jackets that fit them in the shoulders without billowing around the waist.
That's probably why some guys post pics of themselves shirtless or in a Hanes undershirt, or even a compression shirt.
Though I'm sure there are many who are just shamelessly lying, as well... | |
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Posted: 10/9/2009 2:09:58 AM | Well, I describe myself as athletic and to be honest with you I don't really measure myself and I find different brands of clothes fit differently at different sizes so I'm not sure clothing is a good estimator of your build. Some T-shirts will be tight and fitted around the chest, shoulders and arms and be loose around the waist whereas others will be baggier around the upper torso. I think if you want fitted clothes you have to look a lot harder for them than regular clothing shops.
If it helps I wear a 32" jean and my arms are around 16.5" and my chest around aybe 44/45" I guess, I'm 5'10", there's a picture of me in a T-shirt in my profile. | |
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Posted: 10/9/2009 6:32:44 AM | | ^ Oh I think you're definitely athletic, no question. | |
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