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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/26/2009 1:43:54 PM |
know whats funny and sad?......this guy used to be a big loud mouth.......and was definately behind a few terroist attacks...........ronald reagan sent him a very personal and public message........."if anything else happens to anything american......and i find out your behind it......i'm coming for you........a few months later...another attack...........its proven gadhafi is behind it..within 3 days........3 of gadhafi's palaces are bombed......killing his son and narrowly missing gadhafi.........from that day till now.........not one word is heard about him................but now..........with the new administration........hes flexing his muscles again.
You kind of need to go back and check the timelines again. A nightclub in Germany was bombed by Syrian-backed terrorists; two American soldiers were killed; Reagan needed Syria's cooperation in Lebanon, so he bombed Tripoli, killing, among others, Ghadafi's child; an American troop plane was blown up.
Reagan actually caused the bombing, even if you believe the official version. The fact is that the CIA agent in charge, the Scottish prosecutor and most others involved in the investigation thought it was Iran. Because an Iranian airliner had been blown up by an American warship about 8 weeks previously. | |
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/26/2009 7:12:54 PM | My only question is....Why the spelling change??
For decades he has been Moammar al-Khaddafi or Qadhafi if you are in the Middel East. Where the hell did Gadhafi come from??? Is this his intelligently brilliant strategy to throw off his enemies to his presence??? 
Ohhhhhhh, above the girl says he won't be coming. He must have been told there are no camels. | |
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/26/2009 7:55:20 PM | Multiply passports.....or to confuse Immigration or the US State Dept perhaps....lol
glad to see there is no stopover in Canada. | |
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/27/2009 10:04:19 AM |
I may just be one of those damn"Americans" but I do hope your govern
This guys wife walked in on him and caught him on POF! | |
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/27/2009 11:37:41 AM | He was just here in America. Personally I don't really mind Kadaffi / Qadaffi/Gadhaffi much. He is not someone I would nominate for Nobel Peace Prize, granted. But at the same time the US gov't has allied itself with and/or done bu$iness with far worse (or still IS allied with & doing business with worse -- the Saudis for example, and they are always welcome here God knows; Egypt's Mubarak who is certainly hardly some open-minded democratic ruler; in the 80's the US gov't even was allies with -- and arms suppliers for -- Iraq's Saddam Hussein as he fought the Ayatollah......to name only a few examples from the same region).
So what ultimately is so atrocious and beyond-the-pale (really, by that region's standards) about Kadaffi??
That he ordered (allegedly) the Lockerbie Pan Am Air attack, or the bombing of a Berlin disco club ? If he did order Lockerbie (and it was not for instance Iran retaliating for Iran Air Flight 655.... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_Air_Flight_655 .....as ex-CIA man Robert Baer said he believes), then Kadaffi too had arguably valid reason to want to strike back against the US. Reagan had ordered the bombing of Tripoli and in those bombing raids many civilians were killed including Kadaffi's 15-month-old adopted daughter Hannah (I'm personally proud Italy denied the US fly-over rights for that terror bombing and it may well have been an Italian politician, OR the Maltese President, who saved Kadaffi and other civilians by warning them ahead-of-time that unidentified aircrafts were coming into the Mediterranean heading south). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Libya
And yet Reagan, with this and certainly much other blood and corruption on his hands, has a tollway named after him in IL (which I still refuse to call by that name anyway; actually few people use the name, it's "honorary" only). | |
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/27/2009 1:58:47 PM | I still think they need to move the U.N out of the United States. That way someone planning to blow up all the idiots who rule the world for their own purposes, won't incur so much collateral damage (or waste U.S. taxpayer money in their bids to take over the world systems).
Put it out in the middle of a desert somewhere - easier target and people like "Moo-A-Mar" will always have a place to pitch their tents when he comes to insult the rest of the world.
Plus, they can see whatever's coming from miles out.
Oh! And I agree about what's up with the constant name-changing. "Muammar Khaddhafi" is the way he was referred to during the years he was most active - I never saw he or anyone else dispute it during that time. It's like when they changed all the Chinese names to use Z's and X's. Sorry, but I have no idea how to pronounce "Xing" or some of the other stuff the PC folks come up with. | |
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/27/2009 2:25:04 PM | | I think there is no standardized official way to transliterate Arabic words or even names. Just like some write the word Koran (mostly that's the way I see it written today), it often used to be written as Coran, some use Quran; also Muhammad / Mahomet, sheikh/shaykh, emir/ameer, Ziad / Ziyad, Gamal / Jamal, etc. I think that might be the case with the confusion and changes in commonly used spellings for Kadaffi's name. I personally have usually used this latter way (with the K). Many are now spelling it Gadhafi/Gadhaffi I guess however , and his website says al-Gathafi so in fact they are probably more correct in using the "G" spelling. | |
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/27/2009 5:15:40 PM | Dino, I think the reasons you may not see him as such a bad guy is your age. You are too young and in fact, not even born for part of it, when this guy playing the world for a fool. He has always been a little touched and several times had to prove hiself to be even the slightest bit credible. This guy has been a freak show since the early 70's, but lead several very murderous attacks before then, in the 60's.
If Libya had not been subject to economic sanctions because of the Pan Am incident, then the world would have been experiencing many more terrorist attacks than it it has seen up until now.
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/28/2009 7:48:52 AM | The groups he funded in the 70's and 80's , in most cases were fighting just causes IMO. IRA against the British (I support, morally at least; although I don't favor the deliberate targeting of civilians in "soft" targets I must say). PLO against the Israelis , definitely worthy of support (but again IMO should have restricted its activities more so to strikes solely against military targets or Israeli soldiers, etc....however, when one is driven to extremes and military targets are so heavily guarded, then unfortunately at times perhaps other things happen).
Furthermore, with Lockerbie for instance it has yet to be proven beyond a reasonable doubt (such as one would need in a US court for instance) that he ordered that action for the reason (as stated) of retaliation for Reagan's bombing of Tripoli. He may have, he may have not. Certainly it was an atrocity, whoever ordered it. No sane person can applaud it. But also the bombing of Tripoli was an atrocity in all fairness, and the US shooting down Iran Air Flight 655 (civilian airliner), "accidentally" or otherwise, certainly was one as well. Some believe Lockerbie was actually the Ayatollah's retaliation for that incident (1 civilian airliner for 1 civilian airliner, basically).
Still, I have read in various places that the conviction of the man said to be Kadaffi's "agent" on that act (Lockerbie) ended up resting in large part on the testimony of one Maltese shopkeeper, who later said he wasn't even sure any longer that Megrahi was the man he saw in his store buying the clothes (which evidently went into the suitcase that contained the bomb). | |
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/28/2009 4:28:27 PM |
kinda makes you wonder what might be next dont it?
No! not really and the man is still a big mouth.
You think this administration won't send him another Valentine?
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/28/2009 9:37:47 PM |
Sometimes I wonder why do average Joe and Jane trust their government and media so easily? Govt said that? Then it must be true. Where this comes from? It's a puzzle to me.
Unfortunately, the exact same can be said of almost any information source. Sure, the best evidence is gained from being a direct eye witness to events, but then the likelihood of your survival dwindles to almost nothing as a result of that. One thing I learned from law enforcement is that you can have 20 people see and hear the exact same thing from virtually the same position. When you're done getting all of their statements, you will have 20 different versions of the thing and even then, you may find that not a single one is accurate when compared to a videotape of the same event.
When it's repeatedly revealed that a source is no longer credible, then you have to find another source and go through the same vetting process with them, each time.
I haven't yet seen any credible source describe Khaddafi as a beneficial angel. That said, as time has progressed, the process of media vetting news stories more and more seems to have dwindled to almost nothing today. It's getting to the point that life is beginning to imitate the Internet - where everything has a tinge of bullshit to it. | |
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/29/2009 1:38:26 PM |
Sometimes I wonder why do average Joe and Jane trust their government and media so easily? Govt said that? Then it must be true. Where this comes from? It's a puzzle to me.
Well ~ it's called ~ understanding and getting to know your dog.
It's like Coon Hunting
Hunting coons takes place in the darkest of night when human vision is very limited.
but a coon hunter has dogs that can see, smell and hear much better the he.
Each dog is different, having a different voice and different abilities.
Some are quicker on scent with others are quicker to see. Some smell the air while others smell the ground. Some are excellent swimmers, others fast on the hard run.
A Coon Hunter knows his dogs and sets and listen to them bay their report back to him as they chase the coon down the river bottom in the darkness of the night.
He knows what that coon is doing and and where it's headed and which dogs out front and which ones dragging up the rear ~ just by setting and listening to them hunt.
That's really what coon hunting is all about. Men come together and sit and listen to their dogs run a coon. ~ They will make bets , which dog will be first to tree the coon, joke and tease. This is as much fun to them as a super bowl game.
But, in order for this to be any fun ~ they must devote the time to know and understand their dogs.
It the same with the media and politicians, ~ you've got to invest the time to know and learn them. Learn their bias and just like the dogs ~ it's all of their voices that "might" offer you what happening in the darkness where your eyes can't see.
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| Gadhafi Pitches Tent in Newfoundland
Posted: 9/30/2009 4:51:31 AM | So true! so true. ~ It's the money! when you have a government that panders to big money. Government leadership becomes a shell game and responsibility is deferred.
That's what all this blame games is about. Joe and Jane hear words of getting a huge battle ship in the works and the cost in agreed on ~ but on delivery, it turns out to be a row boat.
Hey! this ain't what we bought! ~ Oh yea it is! ~ It says so right here! If this happens then we can do that! Enjoy your boat!
Someone got in and bleed off funds to go somewhere else or into someone pocket.
Installed triggers ! ~ that's like saying ~ Okay I agree to this, lets do it! on the first Sunday of a Blue moon that it is raining and your mother-in-law is in town.
Joe and Jane need to wake up! and get informed. ~
The bad thing is ~ knowing just a little can be worst then knowing nothing.
You've got to learn your dog.
and we need to try to take back control of our government ~but that would require everyone getting involved and learning how things are working now and what needs to change.
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