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 MePlusTwo

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Posted: 10/27/2009 5:32:35 PM

Single Mother = Failed Relationship = Too many complications for no potential reward
Single Man almost certainly = Failed Relationship = Too many complications for no potential reward

Since when did a single mother have exclusive domain over failed relationships?
 gadgetdoc

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Posted: 10/27/2009 6:28:14 PM
Me Plus Two didn't you know that single Dad's are like unicorns they don't really exist ;) lol.

Honestly I think single mom is used interchangeably for single parent.
Yep I got one failed marriage, but the world continues to spin and I'm happy on it.

Cheers. Chinks wine glass with Me plus two
 InNCsearching

Joined: 7/22/2009
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Posted: 10/27/2009 8:28:37 PM
look for all those on here trying to prove their point of view...great...quit freaking emailing me like you need to drive your point home on my email. save it for the forum. unless your stupid that is what this forum is for, not my email. if you can't save it for this then take a xanax or prozac before you hit the send button. jesus...and you wonder why people won't date you.
 mustbesincere

Joined: 10/23/2009
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Posted: 10/27/2009 8:38:09 PM
Oh please the road goes both ways. Grow up.
 PARKERKIMM

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Posted: 10/28/2009 1:19:40 AM
QUOTE FROM jenn8131:
"Getting really sick and tired about hearing about my boobs. My ex couldn't keep his hands off them during my pregnancy and when I was breast feeding. My boobs are not saggy. They are bigger then they originally were but they are still better then FAKE BOOBS!

And plus u lil boys saying how we have saggy breast well u know what gravity does the same to ur ________. Feel in the blank. Its called aging. Its a part of life accept it. Get over it.

Oh and some of u men better check ur receding hair line and ur beer guts before u get all high and mighty complaining about a single mom's body. We have babies what's ur excuse."

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If I could say something positive about single mom is that SOME OF THEM have super nice titties - some of them SLIGHTLY saggy but the size of them milkbags make up for the sagginess.

True to myself, I have dated a single and oh goodness, these god damn titties were the sH*t and those things are begging for MORE attention. God bless her big ole tits. Her ass has become rounder too - ass for weeks and I love women with big tits and big ass.

NOW, YOU CANNOT COMPLAIN about me not liking single mom. I like some of their physical attributes THAT childbirth has given them but I do not live their SOCIAL situations.

She told me her tits got bigger after having her kid and I say that is a huge benefit. It is a blessing in disguise and I know many of you mofos dig into them titttiees - Got milk??
 makeitdowhatitdo

Joined: 10/23/2009
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Posted: 10/28/2009 8:24:54 AM
Let me tell you something! And I hope that you can hear me loud and clear!!!!
I am a single mother of 3 children, I work 2 jobs, I own my home and drive a 2008 car. My children are well groomed, I have 2 Bachelors degrees and am working on my PHD and Masters degree.
I do not need nor want a man to take care of me, spend his money on me or listen to me **** about my ex!
If I laid down to have a baby with my ex, then there was obviously something I liked at the time... it didn't work out and now I am moving on...end of story!
I am not sure where you got your information from but MEN LIKE YOU is what makes it hard for WOMEN LIKE ME!
As for children out of wedlock...marriage does not make a relationship last! So having a child with someone that you are married too does not make the child any more or less loved.
You really need a grip on reality.
I understand that it is difficult having a bound with a child and possibly having to break that bond...but bear in mind that the man is not the one who has to pick up those pieces...the woman is. Not only does she have to console herself, but she has to console her child too.
To further that...If you are not willing to play proxy father to a child I have an idea for you...DON'T DATE A WOMAN WITH CHILDREN!!!!!
My children and I are a package deal...if you want me then you want them. They are my priority!
How dare you stand up and stereotype single mothers...
You have some freaking nerve...
 ~Pedro Sanchez~

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Posted: 10/28/2009 11:27:13 AM

I'm not saying all single moms are like this but....there are a lot of them out there like this and it ruins it for the good ones. The main difference between men and women single parents is that men generally if they truly love a woman put her as the main focus while taking care of their children's needs. single mothers have a tendancy to put the children always above the man and that is a big problem.

Actually the problem is that us men have trouble understanding why women put children first.
From personal experience, as a child, my security did come from knowing my father loved my mother, and therefore us kids obviously. I wasn't going to question it. It just is.

As a partner to a single mum, I've had no issue understanding that the kids come first. I grew up not knowing anything else In my experience, women who are maternal make good partners. Sacrificial, selfless, warm, affectionate women. And there are the not so maternal women. These can be vain, cold, selfish and brutal...just like us men.

I do get that a potential mate is the whole package. I can live with that. The only issue I have is when said 'kids' are about my age.

Obviously there are rotten apples in any demographic.
 freetime2bme

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Posted: 10/28/2009 12:44:21 PM
"My children and I are a package deal" This has to be the second most over used line in the single parents forum. The number one being "my kids come first" or "I put my kids first". The idea that you have to take on the kids as some kind of a packaged deal is just strange to a lot of us. See to me a date is a date it is not a contract or it is not a deal, it's two people doing things together. I am a single dad close to full time (the ex does visits may be one a month) and my kids are not part of any deal in dating me. I have had a number of dates do stuff with me and my kids, but at the end of the day they are my kids. Don't find many single dads going "if you want to date me you have to take my kids as part of the deal" but you do find lots of single moms that act like that and for me it is a big none starter. I am not taking on any ones kids and if someone thinks because they are dating me that they are taking on my kids, they would be wrong. The women I date are not proxy mothers to my kids, they are my date. Again a date is a date it is not a deal.
 makeitdowhatitdo

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Posted: 10/28/2009 4:36:22 PM
Free time...
The reason why women say that is because men are less apt to accept another mans child. But they sure will get some booty from the mother if she is willing to give it up. That is just the way it is. Women expect that they will be a part of the children's life if they date a single father and most of the time they want to be...men do not. If you are dating a single mother, then the children are not an issue...but if you start an actual relationship, they are. Sometimes men start a relationship with a woman and really want nothing to do with the kids...it's a shame. So we must make statements like that to let these men know that we are not having it!
I can understand why it would be a non starter for some...but if my honesty with a man regarding my children is offensive...he is probably not the man for me anyway.
So when I say that we are a package deal I am saying that they are not going anywhere, they live with me, they are a part of my everyday life and if you don't want to be a part of that...u probably shouldn't date me...but I am ok if you don't want to...I will wait for someone who does!
 TAKEN_itsallinthesoul

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Posted: 10/28/2009 5:25:36 PM
freetime, you aren't looking for a long-term relationship though...correct me if I am wrong (which I know you will ). If all one is interested in is casual dating, then keeping the kids out of it is easy to do. If one is thinking in terms of a ltr, then any potential partner is going to end up being another adult of significance in the lives of your children (either as a step parent or at minimum a friendly adult to talk to). I can understand that some people with/without children don't want that, it doesn't bother me. I can understand that some people with/without children do want that, those are the kinds of people single parents should be dating if their goal is LTR...it is pure logic.

You also have a very different opinion on what is/is not appropriate when it comes to over-nights and sex with the children in the home....nothing wrong with that, it is your family and your values.

I do agree with you...I'm also getting tired of hearing the "We are a package deal" or "My kids comes first" comments in this forum. Maybe you have to be around for a while for it to bug you. It seems unnecessary to say because unless someone is a total moron, most people understand that if they get serious with a single parent, then the children are part of that relationship EVENTUALLY and at times, the needs of a child (sick child for instance) will take priority over them.

What bugs me the most are the trolls in these forums whose sole purpose it seems is to put down single MOTHERS. Women should NOT be held to a higher standard than men period. If you (speaking to the TROLLS only) are going to bash a woman because she is a mother and not with the father, then why are you not also bashing men who are fathers and not with the mothers.
 ~SparklingRose~

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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:37:05 PM
^^^^ Precisely TAKEN.

It all boils down to any given person's purpose of their dating.

Clear,and direct, communication is KEY, folks; and, straight from the get go ta boot.

** Sheesh... Can that be repeated enough times in these forums, to actually take hold??? **
 MePlusTwo

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Posted: 10/28/2009 8:50:00 PM
Don't find many single dads going "if you want to date me you have to take my kids as part of the deal"
Well firstly, that is because the vast majority of single fathers are the non-custodial parent. Therefore their dating lives and their parenting are able to be kept completely separate unless/until there is a serious committed relationship and in all likelihood co-habitation.

Secondly, you are just flat out wrong about the single dads who are custodial parents and looking for a long-term committed relationship; ie. not interested in casual dating. Those fathers are no different to the mothers wanting same. Those fathers absolutely consider their children as part of the deal and say so, on these forums, on their profiles and IRL.

Your comparison is entirely invalid unless you are comparing like for like; ie. comparing custodial mothers who are looking for a LTR with custodial men wanting a LTR.

As 'TAKEN' has pointed out and you so often state in these forums, you are not looking for/wanting a LTR. So your situation is completely different. And as 'TAKEN' also pointed out and you have often stated, having these casual partners stay overnight in your home whilst your children are there is also something that works for your family and situation. Again, a completely different dynamic to what others might want/have.
 rustyblueeyes

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Posted: 10/28/2009 10:39:27 PM
Wow what an obsrevation, could not have said it any better cuddoos to you man . I've been a single Dad looking for a real partner for 8 yrs have not found a worthy single mom yet. the only ones worth a hill of beans have been older gals but shy of the kids.
 Gideon_70

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Posted: 10/29/2009 12:57:57 AM
That was the one thing I didn't like about dating divorced men is they are extremely bitter. Men hold onto things as much as women do.

My first attempt at a beautiful and wonderful married life ended with her trying to have me killed because I left her because she tried to kill me. What is really sick is that even though the police were involved in the investigation of her plot to kill me, the state STILL gave her the kids! It seems that attempted murder that was not a conviction was not enough to prove her a bad parent. That she had the kids selling drugs at the school playground the next year really didn't matter either.

I tried again, this one was cold as a block of ice at times, and used sex as a tool. She refused to be my wife, and it was an argument on everything.

The third attempt at a loving relationship with kids playing in the yard, ended with her trying to take my house from me, lying to get a restraining order on me, and doing her best to destroy my health plan to hurt me. She WAS nice enough to offer to let me off the hook if I paid her 60,000 to go away quietly. When I refused, she drugged me, and used a drug I was allergic to, and I ended up nearly dying.

So, well, I haven't dated anyone in over five years. It seems that behind every sweetheart face lies the workings of a selfish, self centered, controlling, sex manipulating monster waiting to happen. I keep hoping that one day a female will prove that she is a woman, then prove that she is a lady. But with the stupidity I see, and the raw nerve that I hear even on here, it's not likely to happen any time soon.

So, when I see a female that leaves her mate to draw child support and welfare, just because she refuses to work WITH him, and work as a TEAM, but would rather fight tooth and nail for what she wants and ignores the needs of the family, it makes me sick all over again.

I'm 43 years old, and after all the hurt, pain and anger... the fights and arguments and unreason... the attempts to make peace and happiness out of a living nightmare, the days crying because my kids were being assaulted, molested and abused and the state allowed and took her side on it, I no longer look 43, I look 58 or 59.

So, yes, I'm just a little bitter.
 Gideon_70

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Posted: 10/29/2009 1:15:06 AM
My next door neighbor, sweet lady, is a single mother. She was married, but got a divorce because her husband was "Abusing," her. She got the house, the kids, and the car.

How was he abusing her? They were friends of mine for a couple of years, and I saw it all the time. She would take off with a bunch of guys, screw them, get drunk, and come home at 3am and get angry with HIM becuas he got upset with her over it.

I loved it when she would say, that rottten SOB has NO RIGHT to tell ME what to do! How DARE he!

So. now she puts her kid to bed early, and sleeps with random men who don't exactly pay her, but do cover this bill or that bill - out of the goodness of their heart, you understand. She is much happier now with the child support check, and the Spousal Support and the random "Gifts," that help her make ends meet, while STILL talking about her ex like he is a dog.

Oh, what about him? He works his rear off every day, gets to support a family he never sees, gets to pay the way for a son that he is no longer around. Of course, she told the judge what he needed to hear to force the man to stay away, so all he gets to do is live in poverty, pay her bills, and enjoy the life he has been screwed into until the kid reaches 21.

So I really have no pity anymore.
 Gideon_70

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Posted: 10/29/2009 1:17:24 AM

The reason why women say that is because men are less apt to accept another mans child.


Never had a problem raising another man's child. I am less apt to accept a woman that has already screwed up a marriage. I am alsays looking for the thing about her that made him quit trying.
 Gideon_70

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Posted: 10/29/2009 1:20:04 AM

Well firstly, that is because the vast majority of single fathers are the non-custodial parent.


I am seeing that changed. Men are being FAR more agressive in the divorce and taking the kids. What is sad is that women are far less likely to willingly pay the child support.
 MePlusTwo

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Posted: 10/29/2009 3:25:33 AM
So, when I see a female that leaves her mate to draw child support and welfare, just because she refuses to work WITH him, and work as a TEAM, but would rather fight tooth and nail for what she wants and ignores the needs of the family, it makes me sick all over again.
You do realise of course that this is not the reason why the vast majority of marriages fail?

No female in her right mind mind leaves her mate to draw child support and welfare. Why on earth would anyone want that life for their children or themselves?


I am less apt to accept a woman that has already screwed up a marriage. I am alsays looking for the thing about her that made him quit trying.
That reads like you assume that when a marriage fails that it is the woman who "screwed" it up. Is that what you are implying?

You also seem to assume that it is something 'wrong' with the woman that 'made' the man "quite trying". Marriage is a 2 way street. It is never ever as clear cut as that. And when a marriage ends, it is often because BOTH husband and wife realise there is simply no way to salvage it.

You might want to think about what part you played in the failure of your marriages. You seem to think that it nothing at all to do with you. But for a start, you chose to marry these women, both of whom, by your account were very unstable and disturbed people. How did you end up marrying them? If you find out the answer to that you may not continue to attract and be attracted to that kind of woman.


Men are being FAR more agressive in the divorce and taking the kids.
Children should be not pawns that go to whoever is the more aggressive. Nor are they property to be 'taken'. Men and women are equally as guilty of losing sight of this. One thing and one thing only matters once it is established a marriage/partnership cannot be reconciled. What is the best possible living arrangement for the child/ren in order for them to have the most connected, healthy and best possible relationship with both their parents? And recognition that this may change many times over the course of their childhood.

50/50 should only be done if in actual fact both parents have equal capacity to care for the children. There is a growing body of empirical evidence that indicates it is only in rare cases that 50/50 actually produces the best outcomes for the children.

For example, having custody of your children when you are going to have them in daycare or with a babysitter *if* the other parent has capacity to be caring for them is putting the parent's need to hurt/get one over the other parent ahead of the children's best interests. Custody arrangements should never be about the needs of the parents or what they think is 'fair' or 'equal' as against the other parent.
 freetime2bme

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Posted: 10/29/2009 3:34:37 AM
"freetime, you aren't looking for a long-term relationship though...correct me if I am wrong "

I thought this thread was why don't men date single mothers, that's what is in the subject line. Now if it was why don't men want LTRs with women I would not have posted what I did.

So what I posted is spot on for this thread because one of the reasons I don't date some single mothers is because of the package deal mind set. I don't want a packaged deal I am happy just dating. If a single mom want to date me and is not looking for some kind of a deal, we would be more likely to be able to.

To the other poster: "Well firstly, that is because the vast majority of single fathers are the non-custodial parent. Therefore their dating lives and their parenting are able to be kept completely separate unless/until there is a serious committed relationship and in all likelihood co-habitation."

True there are more single custodial mom, but there are over 2,500,000 single custodial dad here in the USA and I am one of them. 2,500,000 not a small number. I never said anything about looking for a LTR. That is not what this thread is about it is about dating. Most of the single dads I know are happy just dating and are not looking for a LTR. I know lots of single mothers are and that is fine,, but it is one more reason some men do not wish to date them if they are not looking for that also. Lots of people men and women do not want LTR with some one that all ready has kids, some don't want a LTR with any one. Again why the package deal mind set is a turn off to lots of us that are only looking to date.

May be you to should team up and start a new thread on why men don't wan't a LTR with single moms. Dating and LTR, not the same.
 MePlusTwo

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Posted: 10/29/2009 9:47:06 AM

May be you to should team up and start a new thread on why men don't wan't a LTR with single moms. Dating and LTR, not the same.
Maybe you should take a Valium and a breath and calm down. Wow, way to over react freetime2bme!


I thought this thread was why don't men date single mothers, that's what is in the subject line. Now if it was why don't men want LTRs with women I would not have posted what I did.
Newsflash! The 2 are not mutually exclusive. I know that you hold a viewpoint that 'dating' and those who want a LTR are completely separate and "not the same". But your anecdotal experience does not a "fact" make.


Most of the single dads I know are happy just dating and are not looking for a LTR.
That might be true of the single Dads you know, but do a quick search on this site and you will find a very different story.

In these forums and in real life I have come across many many men and women, parents and not, who all view dating as the means to finding what it is they are ultimately wanting - a LTR. Number of men or women who are strictly interested in 'dating' as a casual, no strings thing, never leading to a relationship? Very very few.

You only need look at this site at the number of profiles where men state LTR as what they are seeking and combine them with the number of profiles where men state that they see dating as the 'start point' to see whether or not a LTR will form to know that there are very large numbers of men, including single fathers who do not think about this the same way you do.

I'm guessing the OP did not intend this to be a discussion about those who strictly want to date casually vs seeing dating as the start point of forming a LTR. In fact it is clear he didn't, given his later comment "all women posting get defensive and say it's our loss and they have no problems getting dates....dates. no marriage or very, very committed long term relationships"; ie. that the reason these women are not getting marriage or committed LTRs vs *just dates* is because they don't pay attention to the list he first posted. He makes it clear that LTR is the 'goal' of dating for most.

So chill out pal. The vast majority of people do not separate dating from LTRs. They see them on a spectrum with dating at the beginning and LTRs at the end. Hence our comments.
 CFlorida67

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Posted: 10/29/2009 10:00:19 AM
This is true. I dated someone with 2 little girls and when the relationship is over its devastating you don't get to see the kids. I wonder how they will grow up and how I could have helped changed their life for the better. Its probably one of the worst feelings you can have. When you are not around they start asking for you and what can you say? Nothing because they won't understand.
 Gideon_70

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Posted: 10/29/2009 10:15:41 AM

You do realise of course that this is not the reason why the vast majority of marriages fail?
No female in her right mind mind leaves her mate to draw child support and welfare. Why on earth would anyone want that life for their children or themselves?


Statistics show that from 1975 to present, from 65% to 72% of the divorces filed, are filed by women. In college educated couples, the divorce filings were as high as 90%. It's pretty clear that the momen blame the man for the failed marriage, and you are no different as evidenced by the general tone of your response. Of the men that I spoke with and read about, they cite lack of commitment by the woman, lack of communication, open war over decisions, and infidelity as the primary reasons that she left. In my personal case, three marraiges, three women cheated on me, risked my life and health, and three women filed for divorce because I was upset with them. The thing most said to me by all of them? NO man is going to tell ME what to do. or, the wonderful, "You are NOT my daddy!"

Just as a side note. the first married a killer. (not a joke)
The second married a "man of color," who let her do anything she wanted, becuase he was too busy smoking crack.
The last one, well, now THAT one is interesting... after trying to get me to pay her 60K to go away quaietly, she married a trucker that was on the road 24/7 and now she gets the paycheck and never has to listen to the guy.


That reads like you assume that when a marriage fails that it is the woman who "screwed" it up. Is that what you are implying?


Why would you get that impression? Of COURSE I am saying it is because she screwed it up. Is it lopsided to think so? I only have my personal experience to go on, and that experience is that I was loyal to the end, a good husband, a good provider, always tried to keep the lines of communication open, and almost always sought the long term solutions to difficult problems. I was the kind of husband that I had seen my entire life from my family who are mostly all still married. I married girls that were all from broken families and they had no skills, no willingness to work with me but had to have everything their way, closed off, selfish, and looked at marriage as a game they could play until it grew uncomfortable and they figured they needed a fresh start with a new victim. I never caused a divorce, adn fought them at every turn. I look at marriage as a long term investment in time, sweat, blood and tears, an investment that grows every day in love, comfort, and compassion to the benefit of everyone - until old age, where someone you have walked the road of life sits with you, and enjoys the ending.


children should be not pawns that go to whoever is the more aggressive.


80% of single parent homes are single mother homes.

"A 1990 study by the Progressive Policy Institute showed that, after controlling for single motherhood, the difference in black and white crime disappeared.
The Village Voice found that children brought up in single-mother homes "are five times more likely to commit suicide, nine times more likely to drop out of high school, 10 times more likely to abuse chemical substances, 14 times more likely to commit rape (for the boys), 20 times more likely to end up in prison, and 32 times more likely to run away from home.
Many of these studies, for example, are from the '90s, when the percentage of teenagers raised by single parents was lower than it is today. In 1990, 28 percent of children under 18 were being raised in one-parent homes -- mother or father, divorced or never-married. By 2005, more than one-third of all babies born in the U.S. were illegitimate. Today, more than 40% of all births are to single mothers. The divorce rate for the married young mothers is more than 60%, and of those, 80% get the child or children.

95% of school shootings are done by children raised in homes where the biological father was prevented from helping raise the chidlren.

Children are 3 times more likely to be fatally abused in Mother-only Households than in Father-only Households, and 73 times more likely in households where the mother cohabits.

In mother only households, the median income is 18,000 and the number of children fatally abused was 806. In Father only households, the median income was 31,000 and the number of children fatally abused was 9.

Of the 278 male perpetrators of fatal child abuse, only 30 were biological fathers, whereas 78% or 768 of the 984 female perpetrators of fatal child abuse were biological mothers. Thus, compared to biological fathers, 32 times as many children are fatally abuse by females and 25 times as many are fatally abused by biological mothers.

A study called NIS-3 reports that natural mothers are the perpetrators of 93% of physical neglect, 86% of educational neglect, 78% of emotional neglect, 60% of physical abuse, and 55% of emotional abuse. It also shows that also shows when the perpetrator is a non-natural parent, that males [read: non-biological fathers] are the perpetrators of 90% of physical abuse, 97% of sexual abuse, 74% of emotional abuse, and 82% of educational neglect.

Source, U.S. Department of Justice Bureau of Justice Statistics

In two-parent families, children under the age of 13 spend an average of 1.77 hours engaged in activities with their fathers and 2.35 hours doing so with their mothers on a daily basis in 1997. Children in single parent families spent .42 hours with their fathers and 1.26 hours with their mothers on daily basis.

So do I blame the single mothers? One researcher, a female, made the comment, "Imagine an America with 60 to 70 percent fewer juvenile delinquents, teenage births, teenage suicides and runaways, and you will appreciate what the sainted "single mothers" have accomplished." And I agree with her. Why?

I got to watch my ex wife abuse my chidlren hurt them, drug them, use them to sell drugs. Every time I made a complaint, I got the same response.
The kids belong with their mother. She's better equipped to raise them. Don't fight it, don't waste your money, no judge is going to give the kids to a man.
 freetime2bme

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Why don't men date single mothers...the answer
Posted: 10/29/2009 11:27:55 AM
"Maybe you should take a Valium and a breath and calm down. "

WoW just because I don't agree with you you think I am over reacting. And then in the typical down under way you recommend turning to drugs. Well I don't need drugs or a drink we can save that for you. Hope you don't recommend drugs to your kids like that, but what do you expect from a nation of convicts.

" The vast majority of people do not separate dating from LTRs. "

I did a study on this with my friend joe and sue down at the beer barn (I was drinking coke to keep the result good) and we found the vast majority of people do know the differance between dating and LTRs. John was not sure, but he has never been quite right in the head since the IED got him, but every one but john knew the differance.

So go and chill out but do it in a healthy way no drugs please.
 MePlusTwo

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Why don't men date single mothers...the answer
Posted: 10/29/2009 11:59:37 AM

It's pretty clear that the momen blame the man for the failed marriage, and you are no different as evidenced by the general tone of your response.
Wow, you couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

I don't "blame" ANYONE for a failed marriage. IT TAKES TWO to make a marriage fail. And none of your very bitter and biased rantings will ever change that.

Who filed for divorce is irrelevant and says nothing about why the marriage failed. So what if it's more often the woman than the man? Meaningless as proof of why or how the marriage failed. Maybe the woman filed because the man was unfaithful, abusive, unwilling to try and work on saving the marriage or conversley maybe she was guilty of any/all of those things. Who filled out the form is irrelevant and tells us nothing about the reality of why each marriage failed.


Statistics show that from 1975 to present, from 65% to 72% of the divorces filed, are filed by women.
Talk about twisting statistics to present a very misleading picture!

You conveniently failed to note that in fact it was 72% filed by women in 1975 and by 1988 it had declined t0 65%. So not only is it NOT "to present", but in fact is was an 8yr period that ended 21 years ago *and* it was on the decline. But don't let the facts get in the way of a good spin huh?


Why would you get that impression? Of COURSE I am saying it is because she screwed it up. Is it lopsided to think so?
Well duh! OF COURSE IT IS! Your poor choices in women do not equate to the reason each and every marriage fails is down to the woman "screwing up".


80% of single parent homes are single mother homes.
WHAT A SHOCK!! Maybe that's because that's because 80%+ of single mothers are the custodial parent of their child/ren? That "maybe" is rhetorical by the way...

As for the rest of your Ann Coulter drivel, her "statistics" and "facts" have been invalidated and shown for the meaningless, flawed and weak arguments they are time and time again.


I got to watch my ex wife abuse my chidlren hurt them, drug them, use them to sell drugs.
If true, that is awful. But before all that, you saw fit to be in a relationship with her, loved her enough and so much you married her and then chose to procreate with her not just once, but more than once!

Instead of spending your time quoting woefully outdated and extraordinarily flawed 'research' maybe you should focus on how it is that you chose to marry and have children with such a woman.
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Why don't men date single mothers...the answer
Posted: 10/29/2009 12:05:57 PM

WoW just because I don't agree with you you think I am over reacting. And then in the typical down under way you recommend turning to drugs.
Yeah right. It's the 'Australian way' to recommend turning to drugs....says the man living in the nation that pushes legal drugs more aggressively and manipulatively than any other country in the world, hands down.

But it's 'our way' to recommend drugs? You're either joking or delusional....but don't worry, in the good ole US of A they have a pill for that.....
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