Ruby_
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Joined: 7/10/2004
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Posted: 10/23/2004 9:47:00 PM | Ken what's up you a** tonight?
I think you must have dated someone recently that really, really hurt you. I have read some of your other posts and you are usually a pretty nice guy. | |
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Posted: 12/9/2004 7:44:52 PM | | Maybe we should put the "Why the guys go for the georgeous model types" in this catagory while were at it. UH Oh! ( Running while ducking for cover. ) LOL! | |
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Posted: 12/9/2004 8:05:34 PM | cwilliam-----------
i'm warm hearted but as yet its got me no where------
sueuk | |
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Posted: 12/9/2004 8:08:29 PM | | Simply being a good, honest, and loving, faithful person isn't enough today. You also have to be on gaurd, careful, and expect the worst until proven different. Not to say go into every meeting with a chip on your shoulder, but with eyes and ears open wide. | |
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Posted: 12/9/2004 9:55:04 PM | I'm curious as to what these " nice" guys think nice is as well. Because if it's shy and quiet, I agree with everything Feminenin said...
I think what most guys think when they say nice is that they are good going, loving men...but honestly, in today's world, especially with the online dating thing, you have to be somewhat agressive to get my attention...Like for instance, send out messages, instead of expecting someone to always come to you. There are thousands of people on here..
Speak up and say what you mean, and mean what you say... If you post stuff on these forums, and someone likes what you say...maybe they will contact you. I've had a few do that...
I consider myself nice, as in I'm considerate, kind, giving and wouldn't hurt a fly....but, I am also bold in going for what I want. So, guys, if you WANT something, get out of your "nice" little shell and do something about it... | |
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Posted: 12/9/2004 10:35:35 PM | | I have a lot of girl friends and the only females I know who go "GaGa " over a wad of cash and a nice car are the ones who are under 30...the rest of us appreciate a man with intelligence (even if he doesn't have loads od dollars)and who doesn't rant on about himself...he talks AND listens...and if he leaves the seat up...in MY case...it just makes it easier for my dogs to get a good cold drink without the seat crashing down on their heads at 2:00 A.M.!!! | |
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Posted: 12/10/2004 4:16:56 AM | | haha, well, no relations, no complaints. I am better off alone, then nobody has to be concerned one way or another. | |
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Posted: 12/10/2004 7:37:25 AM | | Otis, the more you say, the more that I agree with. I was once told by a man who is 49 to 'stay sweet for the next 20 years', and he said that if I ever 'hardened my heart he would leave so quick' I will always 'stay sweet', it's who I am, but he is the hard-hearted one, men my age might think I am cute, but then they move on to looking for younger women, I feel that I am destined to be alone, no matter who I talk to, I am always alone at the end of the day. | |
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Posted: 12/10/2004 8:31:26 AM | | That's true Dragonn. I guess what I really meant by that statement is my heart has always loved, but to get that love back would be a wonderful thing to experience, a totally new experience; maybe I'm expecting to much? I won't settle though, one guy said that I should give the 'nice guys a chance', he says that he found the perfect woman for him, but I should settle for less than what he has? Never!! | |
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Posted: 12/11/2004 5:19:44 AM | | dae, I may consider leaving the forum soon, as I seem to create some considerable antagonism over what I say. I don't want to upset people. As I've often said, be silent, and let sleeping dogs lie. You are a good woman, pretty, and have a lot going for you. It takes quite awhile to find a man you like, if it's possible at all. Yes, you have to take the good part of us with the bad. I am I think, The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly to most. My posts are one man's thinking. Maybe it is not good for some, and helpful for others. I don't know. Best wishes, and may your destiny be brighter. Hugss. | |
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Posted: 12/11/2004 5:25:37 AM | | Dragonn, you have a good point. So many think being alone is wrong. That is not entirely true, but it doesn't mean you absolutely have to have a marriage. You can enjoy your freedom, but make no ties nor commitments to anyone, and still live a happy life I think. Marriage just isn't for everybody. Having a friend for short periods of time is OK, but the long term commitments are too often transformed into regret. There is no way one could or should have complete control over the partner. So that won't work. It's still a gamble, no matter how you roll the dice. The outcome lies when the rolling stops. It may be a winner, but all too often a loss. | |
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Posted: 12/11/2004 10:52:28 AM | I just started reading this thread about why women pass up the nice guys, feeling somewhat in that position. The subject seems to have changed, then I looked at the posting dates and it makes sense.
Dae, not all guys go running for the younger women. Maturity and experience do count. There are times this whole dating thing gets frustrating. You just have to pick yourself up by your boot straps and put some effort into it. Wish British Columbia was a little closer.
Draggon, like the new picture enjoy your trek. | |
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sddude
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Joined: 11/4/2004
Msg: 39 | |
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Posted: 12/11/2004 7:56:13 PM | I do not know what some of you are talking about , I guess It is all about the experiences one has .
Nice guys, I guess for some of you are shy dorks , but for me it is a great guy who always treats the girl to everything , even when he tries to pick up girls someplace . I do not play simantics or the word game here , just answer the question or reply to the issue of nice guys .
In my experience , I am a guy that is very talkative and have alot of female friends , they are shocked on how women treat me , even the ones they introduce me to .
In the clubs bars etc... when trying to talk to women alot of them do not give me a chance well actually most of them , most guys here can relate to that and the women probably do not remember or are not aware of how they act towards the initial introductory phase with a guy . Guys have created the term of stricking out , not the women , they guys who cannot relate to this probably have to tell us about their technique , meeting women is complex, I am not shy at all and will comeup to anyone to strick out a conversation , have you ever noticed in a bar or a club where the guys are walking oround in a line to try to talk to women at different places there, I call it the loser parade .
I have been told that to them I am one of the greatest guys they know but I am too nice .
If by alot of effort I am able to get a women interested in me , (last time it took me 11 tries with different women )
This is who I am in a nutshell , I am the kind of guy that when he meets a women pays for all the drinks and the snacks , likes to have long conversations and make them laugh , do stupid things for laughs. Drive them home if they need a ride , ask if they wanna see me the next day because I want to , call them the next day to see if they like the place , concert , dinner etc... that I chose to invite them , after the next activity , I ususally give them a rubdown , even rub their feet and cuddle and all that .... later for some reason they avoid me or I find they have a boyfriend or they leave on the next date for one of those coky drunk ***holes that are groping them and almost puking . these are not Isolated incidences I date ALOT of women , I try very hard to find them every nook and cranny not only bars and clubs , not getting gross or whiney here , I am a very moral guy but do like to get women hot by actions and comments , really works , but why are women not interested in a genuine great nice guy like me , and drop me during dates for really rude guys that seem like future abusers, it happened to me last week , my last girlfriend cheated on me with a badboy, do not give me that crap that most badboys are nice guys , so why so much women complain about them and keep going back . ALL my female friends complain about their abusive badboy but keep going back to them , They tell me I am too nice too cool , chicks wanna little fear and tension , that excites them , they tell me to be or become some sort of ***hole , I tried that it worked like a charm for some reason my victims call me and want me to see them , but I cannot be that way , makes me feel bad . Right now I can sleep with 4 of my victims but I can't , I feel like an evil . That is my experience without exageration .
Why are women so difficult and complicated to date and get to know , I have been on these dating sites for almost a year , many sites , most places are 0 responses . I placed a female profile just as an experiment at another site and got 20 hits a week , what the heck ? Are women always this difficult ?
We guys do not care if you have money , a car , a job or an education , if you look nice and are pleasant ,that is all that counts .
Another thing , I have found out that women in Mexico away from the border are really aproacheable and do not care what a guy has , I found that out when I informed about my humble job and no car . Up here it is almost vital , good job , money , nice car , do not give me that, that most women do not care especially the ones above 30 , i make 75 k a year but always hide it and drive an old jeep , I get really negative responses about that later , I was told several times that they really wanted to go out with a guy that in the future can meet their lifestyle needs , some trailer chicks even gave me a similar line. When I pull the Jag out and wear something realy expensive looking , I notice they are really impressed but I cannot deal with that kind of women that will not accept going to a place to eat that is relaxing and casual too , too concerned with classy places , expensive tastes , even on women's profile mentioned she had expensive tastes which meant the guy had to have money .
Why are women so complicated ? Why do most are atracted to what is not good for them ?
I guess that is why alot of guys are here and why women are here too. | |
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Posted: 12/11/2004 8:05:15 PM | | this is an EXCELLENT thread....look how much you've opened up in people! | |
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Posted: 12/12/2004 12:21:43 PM | I believe that people male or female have difficulty meeting other people because the fear of rejection is such a phobia for them that it is the reason why it takes so long to take the chance to meet someone.
I was like that in my youth. I did not have confidence in myself and frankly people can often be unkind so it is not like the fear is there with out merrit. Over coming the fear is a difficult obstical to get over.
In my youth I was shy and lacking in confidence. I was often offended by people who had the deal with it and get over it attitude.I do not know what I would have done in my life if it weren't for the decent human beings that with encouragement helped me to broaden my horizons.
The not so nice people rather they are male or female are people that we need every bit as much as the kind ones. People need to be responsible for the people that they have invited intentionally or untintentionlly in their lives. They also help you see your self in a better light so what you need to alter about yourself.
Men that are not attracted to women who do not have big breast or women that will only date a guy with no less than a 1 inch bulge have a right to the choices that they make. We all have preferences. I just hate when people try to make pathetic excuses for the reasons of their choice. | |
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Posted: 12/12/2004 12:25:39 PM | | I meant women that date men with no less than a 12 inch bulge | |
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Posted: 12/13/2004 8:31:16 AM | | ok men who say being a nice guy has gotten me nowhere are not nice guys... its an underlying motive looking for some other result....people who are truly nice do it without thought of compensation... I am a nice guy... also I am not a doormat... i have boundries to prevent some from taking advantage of kindness....I am opinionated, honest, semper fidelis, and see no need to be mean as an attempt to dominate or belittle.... BUT i will not let you aattempt to strongarm a situation either physically, mentally, or emotionally. I agree..STOP WHINING! | |
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Posted: 12/30/2004 12:27:08 PM | There are plenty of beautiful women with breasts that are too small or butts that are too big.... it's on the inside that counts right?
It's all about attraction.Inside is what really matters about the character of the person if you're talking about friendship,but if the attraction factor isn't there,there is no sense in going any further.
There will always be women who will pass the nice guy up for the neanderthal and there will always be guys who will pass up the nice girl with the small boobs and big butt because there is no attraction.You can't force attraction,you can't choose it.It's either there or it isn't.
I'm guilty of passing up on dates with heavy women because I can't get sexually turned on by them....sorry but that's the truth.But then I won't dump a girl I'm with for one that may be more what I would consider my type either. | |
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Posted: 12/30/2004 1:50:53 PM |
I meant women that date men with no less than a 12 inch bulge
Do women really fall for that? I know men have no clue that all the cleavage
is caused by a push-up bra or softball implants, but I was sure us ladies knew
that bulge was a tube sock. LOL! Seriously, I have never looked at a guys
crotch to see if I could figure out if he had a big w*****... thats so lame.
And the only car that is going to impress me in any way would be a Hot Rod,
I admit I like a guy who can build his own vintage car himself.... I think its
a grease monkey fetish. I could give 2 sh!ts about how much money a guy has.
I make plenty of money, so I don't need it in a partner. What I need is a sense
that the guy is honest, open-minded and can make me laugh... any extras is icing.
As for the nice guy thing.... I never get hit on by nice guys. Its always some
drunk obnoxious a$$hole who thinks he is Conan the Barbarian. Nice guys need
to be a little more upfront and flirty. Flirty doesn't equal bad boy.... its ok for
you all to give it a try. Just leave out the neaderthal-like pick-up lines...  | |
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Posted: 1/2/2005 9:06:42 AM | | Thats right..... you adorable little dictator in training.... | |
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Posted: 1/2/2005 9:31:34 AM | the thing I find abou guy /men si that jerks are nice some of the time
and niceguys are jerks sometimes sad but true as for whining yes nice guys get over looked for me it is because I used to think wow she is great she probably gets hit on all the time and considers it rude so I am not a rude person i will give her space
now I engage her in conversation without the come ons and i am honest and open I get passed up alot but it is no harm and those I hit it off with get to know me as me not some woman chasing horndog using a line that has been used 1000 times before
and yet I am still single WWWHHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAA me LOL | |
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yna6
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Joined: 5/2/2004
Msg: 48 | |
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Posted: 1/2/2005 9:34:45 AM | like the new pic Georgie!
Anyhow's....why be nice? Seems a lot of women go for the idiots, so act like one, then let her "change you".....be the actor, and get the women. It works. (I didn't have to use that ploy, but it does work...)
Still looking for those boob shots too...new year, new collection....send 'em to me!
Have a good one all!
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dericj
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Joined: 12/20/2004
Msg: 49 | |
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Posted: 1/2/2005 10:19:33 AM | Mostly good points here. When not to hit on a woman? When the guy she's with looks like he'll beat your ass !
Seriously though, I have to agree pick up lines are a mistake. It's better just to be straight forward, say hello and just try to get a normal conversation going. If your ears and eyes are open wide enough you can often get some good clues as to if she might be interested in you or not before you open yourself up to being accepted or rejected in the first place.
Still, even if you are denied just forget it as fast as you can and move on. It's not worth a second thought. | |
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Posted: 1/2/2005 10:31:47 AM | | i think of "nice" guys as those guys that are totally uncomfortable in their own skin. the kind of guy that you definitely wouldn't see mingling at a bar, the wallflower, the geek, or the guy that lets you walk all over him. i don't know how else to explain it nicely... but that's just my take on this subject. | |
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