| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/4/2009 8:09:15 PM | .
If your understanding of the Constitution comes from Glenn Beck your in trouble....
skip Glenn and an go to 'The 5000 Year Leap' ... by Skousen, or John Birch writings.....Skousen was writing for Mormon publications until they read his crap and quit publishing it...
"U.S. Constitution is a godly document above all else, based on natural law" ......................
Dwight Eisenhower was a "dedicated, conscious agent of the Communist conspiracy," ............
Ike was a Commie......Really...
Socializing our healthcare, destroying the free market, attacking free speech and 2nd amendment rights, open borders, high taxes, wars without end, and 7-10 trillion dollars is unacceptable and is not responsible government. And those that defend it are as guilty as the one's imposing it. We don't need Glenn Beck to tell us that the breaking point is coming. He's just that lonely voice warning the country that it cannot continue this way.
What a load of crap.....
Healthcare Socialized...... A lie
destroying the free market.......... Free Market ... No such thing... markets have to be controlled ..
Which of your Taxes have gone up?
Border control is better now than it has been for years...
Glenn Beck is that lonely voice warning... ??
Before or after he puts the VICKS VAPOR RUB UNDER HIS EYES.... tears
He makes crap up... he will not even verify his 9-12 crowd of 2 million... he cannot he lies...
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/5/2009 5:56:53 AM |
Winston Churchill was a lonely voice during the 30's. Nobody listened to him as Hitler became more and more dangerous. We're a minority now but our numbers are growing.
Breaker, breaker 1-9...Come back | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/5/2009 8:01:57 AM |
republican moderates can see that the continual alienation of minorites and swing voters by the party seriously impacts the parties ability to compete for the whitehouse.
Most definitely. This new-age radical extremism that has hijacked the GOP due in a large part from too many taking their cues from nobodies like Beck and Limbaugh alienates, embarrasses, and angers many Republicans themselves as I am one. These trends of fear and hatred are counterproductive.
No candidate wins an election by only appealing to their party's base even while alienating some of it. The last few Congressional and the last Presidential elections should be clues. Yet, the GOP is determined to entrench themselves deeper within their more extremist cross-section.
Little if any of the McCain campaign discussed any of what they would do for the nation with explanations for why it would be better than the Democrat platform. It was all hatred, lies, and fear. It was sadly very un-McCain and I was deeply saddened that McCain allowed his campaign to get so derailed from the kind of politician he is.
Graham is speaking for the survival of a party for which he cares deeply while Beck and Limbaugh just care whether or not people notice them on this planet. As I have said here for a long time, the GOP has to get back to focusing on their own relevance or they will become irrelevant. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/5/2009 8:25:01 AM | ^^^^^^^^^^^^
I am not a GOP'er butt.............. the best interest of the USA is to have two parties....
I agree Graham is making an attempt to regain control... He has a very safe seat... I think mainstream GOP making the move.....
I wonder if the extreme positions and behavior taken on the Chicago games was a turning point... That had to be a big turn off for a lot of voters...
Graham commented the talkers really do not have all the power in the party... None supported McCain and he still won South Carolina primary.....
What was his turning point?
Last week Newsmax called for a military take over of the country....
Was that the straw? Or the ton of crap too much....
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/5/2009 1:45:11 PM |
Taxes will go up in 2011 as the Bush tax cuts expire. And with trillion dollars deficits now and in the foreseeable future, plus rising social security and medicare costs as the boomers retire, a war without end, socialization of healthcare--how do taxes not go up?
yeah liberals asked that question back when you guys were funding two wars while issuing tax cuts to "stimulate" the economy. we're just following in your footsteps only at least we're spending what we can of the money at home instead of shipping it directly to Iraq and Enron.
and that part about "the Left hating anybody who disagrees with them". the negotiatory stance of the Right is just so obvious all around us. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/5/2009 1:46:37 PM |
But he is a "not so closeted" Chicago politician...........Vote early,Vote often.....and is it not possible...come on.....is it not possible that the Obama might be trying to pay back favors with the financial benefits to some in the Chicago area.After all...he was an IL senator who was able to distance himself from the politics in his own states most populated city by playin[???]dumb? I don't care where he was born[as long as it met the Constitutional statutes] and if he's a Muslim....well....not my choice but as long as I don't have to watch him kneel and pray......
And since he may very well be gone in 3 years......could it be he's just trying[possibly?]to pay off old debts.And really...Chicago for the Olympics........Are Giuliani and Bloomberg planning on moving?Cause Daley sure hasn't proven to have the tools........
Chicago....Vote early,Vote often!!! You should try to address the topic here. We have a topic about the Chicago bid for the Olympics and president Obama's attempt to help with that effort. This thread is about senator Graham's trying to right the course of the Republican Party ship that seems headed for a wreck
Who won that bid anyway? | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/5/2009 6:35:34 PM |
yeah liberals asked that question back when you guys were funding two wars while issuing tax cuts to "stimulate" the economy. we're just following in your footsteps only at least we're spending what we can of the money at home instead of shipping it directly to Iraq and Enron.
He just said he quit the republican party because hes fed up with them. Im with you white shark.
Spending the money at home for all the unions and all the ones that put your people in power. That's the only place the porkulis bill went. Paybacks are great are they not. Oh and now you guys are in charge of the right war. the one you voted for.
How many years is it going to take your party from saving us from all of those evil Bush years LOL. Biden says its working great. What a lie. That's all your party has got to offer is corruption and lies.
Graham sucks and there should be term limits.
Here's one for all you liberals. The Messiah spent 5 million dollars to go try and get the Olympics for Chicago. That sure would have bought a lot of health care insurance. That was one hell of a carbon footprint they left also. But it was not about him. lol The world stuck it to you.
The left wing attack machine has no shame. Every time I hear about the right wing attack machine I laugh. Because they are amateurs compared to yours.
I will see you at the Revolution White Shark We can drink a beer when its over. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/5/2009 8:08:32 PM |
The Messiah spent 5 million dollars to go try and get the Olympics for Chicago.
I love it when the Right calls Obama 'The Messiah'.
It's some kind of Freudian thing with them--they really do believe he's the Messiah, but they're pretending like they don't, so they slip in the 'Messiah' honorific every once in a while to laud him, but make it look like a put-down.
I love it.
I get it.
They're so stinkin' cute that way. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 4:05:23 AM |
That, like I said, reminds me more of Hitler than Churchill. If that sounds like Hitler you're a bigger idiot than I originally thought. You still never answered the questions on whether you call out your own or not.
I am posting here to let you know that I don't engage in discussions with people who don't know how to debate ideas without resorting to insults to other posters. I don't mind people jabbing at me when they are addressing my ideas and opinions, but insults because you aren't able to counter an opinion with facts are the favorite tool of trolls. I don't feed the trolls!
As to the questions that you claim that weren't answered, same reason applies. The questions reminded me of the line that Pee-Wee Herman used to say when didn't know how to respond to something: "I know you are, but what am I?" | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 4:17:35 AM | I will see you at the Revolution White Shark We can drink a beer when its over.
What is the Revolution? Is that an after-hours bar where the disaffected Republicans and so-called Libertarians dilettantes gather to shoot the breeze? | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 5:51:06 AM |
What is the Revolution? Is that an after-hours bar where the disaffected Republicans and so-called Libertarians dilettantes gather to shoot the breeze?
More like a beer hall putsch!  | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 6:53:45 AM | I will see you at the Revolution White Shark We can drink a beer when its over.
LOL, appreciate it. You bring the boat and I'll bring the beer.
Honestly, I hope it never comes to a revolution; I have kids and I would like them to grow up in a united and free country with unlimited opportunity, not a North American Lebanon.
However, the idea of having socialism imposed on me is unacceptable and if it means joining a revolution someday so be it. Obama, not Glenn Beck, is playing the dangerous game--if his policies fail and the economy gets much worse, you'll see a lot of finger pointing. Violence is sure to follow.
More like a beer hall putsch!
Nope, as much as the libtards like to throw that Nazi crap around but claim innocence when it gets thrown back in their face, I prefer the alternative--liberty and freedom. I'm sure these words are alien to the average libtard as they won't be happy until they have imposed their soft tyranny on the whole country. Of course I'm not surprised a New Yorker would say something like this--talk about a state in Civil War: have you seen their state senate lately? Another hard core blue state and another example of blue state political failure. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 7:13:45 AM | What socialism?
Being centrist like nearly every other western nation is socialism?
Talk about odd.
Where was all this treason and sky is falling stuff for the last 8 years ?
Cheers
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 7:27:31 AM |
However, the idea of having socialism imposed on me is unacceptable and if it means joining a revolution someday so be it. Obama, not Glenn Beck, is playing the dangerous game--if his policies fail and the economy gets much worse, you'll see a lot of finger pointing. Violence is sure to follow.
nice. so what we should have done is....well, just sit there and pray to God that the economy would some how magically fix itself after eight years of Republican mismanagement?
fabulous plan there. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 7:41:08 AM | | ^^ True. And they also have to remember this "socialism" actually started while the country was still under a GOP administration. It was simply not sufficient enough to stanch the hemorrhaging, so the following administration (naturally) has had to take further measures to try and shore up the damage. How anyone can perceive Obama as this kind of "leftist radical" is very much beyond me, personally. He is governing extremely centrist and if anything they haven't done much AT ALL.... this administration is being very slow and deliberate in almost any decisions it's making (too much so IMO) and they're trying to keep everyone happy. If he was truly this radical-leaning, Hugo Chavez-esque kind of president then you'd see radical changes being made. The man is , in office if not in his own personal feelings, a moderate Democrat through-and-through. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 8:30:26 AM |
However, the idea of having socialism imposed on me is unacceptable and if it means joining a revolution someday so be it.
Otherwise known as insurrection.Some people are nut's.But what an enlightening conversation.   | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 10:19:03 AM |
However, the idea of having socialism imposed on me is unacceptable and if it means joining a revolution someday so be it
Comments like this always make me laugh. This poster has no clue that the US has been a socialist nation for decades.
We have a socialized military, fire depts, police, roads and highways, electric grid, banking system, garbage collection, mass transit systems, and schools. We also have income redistribution and entitlement programs like a progressive income tax, estate tax, corporate tax, capital gains taxes, social security, Medicare, Medicaid, a prescription drug program, welfare, Food Stamps, Section 8 housing vouchers, govt support for mortgages (through Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac), govt support of banks and large corporations (bank bailout and stimulus bills), energy corps (cheney's energy bill), and college loans. In addition, the govt regulates the economy, the environment, food safety, drug safety, not to mention the safety of all sorts of things like toys, pajamas, baby cribs, driving, smoking, etc.
There's hardly anything that the govt doesn't stick its' finger into, but some wingnuts still think that socialism is a foreign ideology
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 11:17:07 AM |
However, the idea of having socialism imposed on me is unacceptable and if it means joining a revolution someday so be it. Obama, not Glenn Beck, is playing the dangerous game--if his policies fail and the economy gets much worse, you'll see a lot of finger pointing. Violence is sure to follow.
So, are you saying that, in a democratic system like ours, the people should be afraid to vote for the candidate who best represent their wishes and aspirations, because there are factions of losers that threaten with violence if they don't get their way?
Those who are opposing the changes that are coming now are doing so because because they realize that they will have to pay their fair share for living in a civil society. Now that the Bush tax breaks for the rich are about to expire they are crying freedom and liberty as if they were being marched to the dungeons. They want to enjoy all the niceties of living in a country with law and order, as long as they don't have to contribute according to the laws of the country. Otherwise they will try to impose their will through violent means.
No wonder senator Graham called them out! | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 12:06:35 PM |
HEY!
Is that actual light at the end of that tunnel?
Imagine the courage of Graham to speak up, going against the strong tide of ignorance and paranoia prevalent everywhere.
Good on him.   | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 1:44:48 PM |
conservtards hate hope. (did the conservative movement skip third grade or something? don't people get taught early on in life that calling other people playground names does nothing to lend credibility to an argument? its forgivable in teens maybe but in adults its just pretty embarrassing.)
given that apparently nobody (Clinton, Bush, McCain, Obama, hell probably Rutherford B. Hayes too) has any idea how to run the country maybe Somalia would work. no healtcare, complete capitalism, LOTS of guns, plenty of ammunition, no deficit spending or bailouts, get to carve out your own little piece of good government, no political correctness. of course there are a lot of people who are truly good at such a life, as opposed to most here who just talk the talk, so lifespan is going to be pretty short.
being against everybody who has run for office is just plain silly. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/6/2009 3:40:06 PM | I'm glad someone in the Republican party is finally saying something. I left it just a few years ago because I just could no longer bear associating with the endless, negative whining that's become a trademark of the right. All of the abrogation of responsibilities by constantly blaming others and the petulant revolution-talk just because things aren't going your way is not only un-Republican, it's un-American, IMO. What happened to the positive, can-do attitude that used to be a trademark of this country?
I'd love to see the Republican party be strong again, because I think they have a lot to offer, but until they succeed in marginalizing the hateful ranters, it's not going to happen. And if Sarah Palin truly is the best and brightest they can come up with, they might as well bury the party right now.
And what's with the name-calling? Libtard? Wow, aren't you clever! I don't care which side you're on; as soon as you start that, it becomes really obvious to me that you either really don't know how to argue, or you have no argument, or both.
To me, the Glenn Becks of this world have nothing positive to offer. He doesn't get rich from offering solutions, which anyone who truly loves this country should want. He gets people to tune in every day by spreading paranoia and discontent. The people who swallow rhetoric like his don't represent the Republican party; they're all about tearing down, never about building up. Hopefully, Graham will be first in a long line of prominent Republicans to speak up, and as a result, the GOP might become a party I'd be proud to be part of again. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/16/2009 5:44:11 PM | Senator Graham had it right when, referring to Glenn Beck, he said:
Only in America can you make that much money crying.
Last night again Glenn Beck displayed the by now well rehearsed emotional display that has made him famous. Check the link below to see the latest available video of Glenn Beck doing his thing.
Glenn Beck was in the middle of pining for a 'simpler time' in America when he decided the best way to illustrate this idea was to show two advertisements from said 'simpler time.' One was a classic Coca-Cola ad, the other a Kodak ad.
These examples of Americana were so moving to Beck that he just couldn't help himself; he begin to tear up (not for the first time). His monologue, which was interrupted a few times by his tears, began with the wisdom that politicians can't take us back to that simpler time; they can only take us farther away. It then devolved into a strange and extended analogy of America as a teenage kid who got dragged to a party he didn't really want to go to, and where his friends poured beer on him, and that ended with dad doing what's right.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/15/glenn-beck-cries-again-on_n_323197.html | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/16/2009 11:03:18 PM | well golly gee wally ! Beck has been talking treason !
I fail to understand why it's taken so long for any self respecting GOP member to come forward and say "enough is enough".
That's one ~ we need more! many more _to stem this tide of mad dog insanity.
We are not going to have effective government in this nation until the DNC has worthy opposition.
I find the GOP completely unworthy of any consideration at this point and I hope that changes.
I'm waiting for the next shoe to drop.
You can forget about Steal , he is an empty shirt with a brown nose.
Maybe John Banard ~
Sr. Bush ~ has address the issue in an indirect matter for Obama's up coming speech at A&M or was it UT? ~ Texas A&M I think. ~ Asking everyone to be civil. He briefly address the media ~ responsibility ~ both right and left ~ but only singling out Maddow and Obermann for their attacks on his son. It was clear , he's had enough of it. ~
about time is all I can say ~ His son gave us butt load of stuff to throw. The DNC is not short ammo. ~ In a slime ball throwing contest the GOP is out gunned and short ammo.
Fush Plumbob has met his match, as has Scrub Senior, ~ for as Obermann pointed out,
Willy Horton was used against the Greek ~ as was the setup and firing of Dan Rather by "Two Man" review comittee ~ Both of these smear incidence , people with working in the good favor or employed by Senior Bush. ~ One of those two men on Rather review was a previous Bush appointee. ~ So 41's hands are far from clean is such matters as twisting facts to gain position or railroading a decenting voice. He just didn't know his chickens might come home to roost.
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