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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/21/2009 5:59:04 AM |
The dems won the election by a few percentage points.
Every presidential election is won by a few %. But if it makes you feel better about the dems rout of republicans, go with it.
when they have to pay down debt everything suffers
75% of the national debt was accumulated under three republican presidents; Reagan, GHWB and bush
Recent pole says 28% liberal, 40% conservative and 32% independent one also showed that america is still a center right country.
57% think the Dem policies would move the nation in the right direction. 53% think repub policies would move the nation in the wrong direction. 48% think the dems will do a better job of coping with the nations problems while only 28% think the repubs will do a batter job. The nation is a democratic nation.
Too bad there isn't a Conservative party or a Liberal party. However, there is a Dem party and a repub party. Only 20% of all americans consider themselves republican, and only 8% have confidence in the repub party. Meanwhile, although only 34% consider themselves democrats, 57% support the dem party and its' policies over the republicans.
the mid term elections are not looking good for you team.
51% of all americans prefer a dem candidate while only 39% prefer the repub.
The independent vote put your people in power
Independents are leaning dem by an almost 2 to 1 margin
Congress has a 20% approval rating
33% of all americans approve of the job congressional dems are doing. Only 19% approve of the job Congressional repubs are doing. IOW, the 20% is the result of diminishing support for repubs
Right now the American people are mad as hell. look at the 9/12 march. It was reported by the fly by media that there was only a few thousand showed up. But a lot of collages looked at aerail photos and came to the conclusion that there was close to two million people there
You're delusional. Only 8% of all americans do not trust the govt. And that number is lower than it was under bush
it has been proven Acorn registered 43,000 fraudulent people
Wrong again. ACORN did not register the fraudelent names; they reported them to the FEC.
Enjoy your power and control. Enjoy forcing your agendas on people that dont want it.
I will. TMOT
mid term elections you will lose big time because the ederly and main stream are seriously pissed right now
I'd be more likely to believe that you could predict the future if you hadn't shown an inability to predict the past.
They are all laughing at you. Even the French President is laughing in your faces
Ohhh, that really hurts.
NOT!!
you can blame Bush for a 500 billion dollar one. But after that it is on you.
Wrong again. Try multiplying that by 10. bush created 5 TRILLION dollars of debt. 3/4 of the national debt was created by three conservative presidents; Reagan, GHWB and bush
Is that what you are proud of?
Are you proud of the fact that your party is trying to squelch freedom of speech?
Is power and control so important to you?
Your whining provides me with a good deal of pleasure.
You don't drive me nuts at all. I think its kinda funny. I just consider the source. 
One thing I don't understand if you cherish and embrace facism, socialism and communism and follow the teachings of Mau. Then why don't you move to those countries. I am sure they would love to have you. Why do you have to overthrow our system? Why do you want to destroy our Constitution? The ways of our country were here long before you were born. If you would like I will gladly buy you a plane ticket to North Korea. One of my best friends is a Liberal and he is one of the most unhappy person I know. If you don't like America then just leave.
I see we have another conservative who think socialism, communism and facism are all the same thing
I will never cease to be amazed at how conservatives insist on displaying their ignorance.
If that is the way you really want power by fraud and suppresion of freedom of speach, then don't be surprised if the shit hits the fan.
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/21/2009 6:34:19 AM | If you and your ilk attempt to impose your views on the whole country, coerce the whole country, or tyrannize the whole country with your statist agenda and you'll see the unthinkable spill into the streets. I would join any movement that believes in liberty and freedom if the federal government does not change its ways, no matter who is in power, even if it means breaking up the country I love
Which of these Fine Americans loved his country so much, he was willing to "start a Movement" to ask the Federal Government to "change" its ways... Timmy McVeigh, Eric Rudolph, Richard Reid, Randy Weaver, John Lind Walker, or Ted Kaczynski...? | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/21/2009 6:54:03 AM | In reading No Bush's post above, I think most of that is an indicator of how the GOP has lost it's way in both it's belief systems and in how it presents itself.
Back to Sen. Graham this is precisely what he's saying. That the Conservative public is taking it's cues from vile loudmouths making a living by espousing their hatred for all things different than they such as Limbaugh or Hannity or Beck and that the GOP has tried to "plug in" to their base by following along with that general attitude. It obscures what Conservative government is and the GOP has stopped talking about that.
McCain had to fall in rank with this "religion" of mistrust, fear and hatred to get the nomination. His campaign people felt that he had to pander to that base and he selected a running mate that epitomized that attitude. We heard all the things that were said at the rallies, we heard the campaign. There was little to nothing said about the Conservative politics that the GOP is supposed to champion or why it would be good for our nation. It was bad things about the "other guy". Negativity is a turn off and the GOP has turned off at least those percentages that NBL listed as preferring Democrats to Republicans.
America IS a right of center nation because that's generally the structure from which the nation was born. These percentages don't reflect a favor as much for Democrat Liberal policies, but a dis-favor for what the GOP has become and the messes of the previous administration. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/21/2009 5:12:23 PM | not that it matters, but I've been preaching that the GOP has been hyjacked for two years. It's really not important that I've been preaching it ~ but it is important for people to understand whats happening. To understand the driving forces behind all of this political posturing and to what "master" do they serve ~ and how they came into existence.
To do this requires a wide angle view and some knowledge of political history that goes back when some votes were only a gleam in their father's eye or tricycle motors.
You need to know who Archibald Cox, Jr. was and what importance he played in recent American History. You need to have some knowledge of men kind Gordon Liddy, or Herbert Hoover and William J. Casey. You need to understand such men as Ollie North and where lies his loyalties to country. You need to a working knowledge of this point in time in history and build upon it ~ at the very least! Only then might you understand and see what's afoot and what's biting us today.
Otherwise, you are at the whims and discretion of who ever you are listening to, for you have no political compass or internal "fact checker" . Leaving you to be a big "fan" by virtue of you like the color blue or there something about "them other guys" you just don't like, so you choice "this " team. They have touch you with some words that make you "want" to believe them. They've hit a nerve with you, ~ so for a small grain of truth, you are willing to buy the whole package!
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/21/2009 8:46:52 PM | I left two outstanding Americans out for your amusement and quandary. Who wish to start a movement of change to match their ideas in America?
Theodore John Kaczynski (pronounced /k?'z?nski/; born May 22, 1942), also known as the Unabomber (University and Airline Bomber), is an American mathematician, social critic, and murderer who carried out a campaign of mail bombings, as well as a described anarcho-primitivist.
He was born in Chicago, Illinois, where, as an intellectual child prodigy, he excelled academically from an early age. Kaczynski's lawyers attributed some of his emotional instability to his participation in a CIA stress and mind control experiment at Harvard from the age of 16.
Kaczynski received an undergraduate degree from Harvard University and earned a PhD in mathematics from the University of Michigan. He became an assistant professor at the University of California, Berkeley at age 25 but resigned two years later.
John Phillip Walker Lindh (born February 9, 1981) was captured as an enemy combatant[citation needed] during the United States' 2001 invasion of Afghanistan. An American citizen, he is now serving a 20-year prison sentence in connection with his participation in Afghanistan's Taliban army. He was captured during the Battle of Qala-i-Jangi, a violent Taliban prison uprising where American CIA officer Johnny "Mike" Spann was killed.
Lindh received training at Al-Farouq, an alleged Al-Qaeda training camp located in Afghanistan. There, he attended a lecture by Osama bin Laden before the September 11, 2001 terror attacks. Lindh had previously received training with Harkat-ul-Mujahideen, an internationally designated terrorist organization based in Pakistan.[1][2][3][4]
Lindh went by Sulayman al-Faris during his time in Afghanistan, but prefers the name Hamza Walker Lindh today.[5] In early reports following his capture, he was occasionally referred to by the news media as just "John Walker".[6]
Richard Colvin Reid (born 12 August 1973[1], also known as Abdul Raheem and as Tariq Raja, and often referred to in the media as the shoe bomber) was convicted on charges of terrorism and is currently serving a life sentence in the United States for attempting to destroy a commercial aircraft in-flight by detonating explosives hidden in his shoes. According to al-Qaeda operative Mohammed Mansour Jabarah (who was captured and interrogated in Oman in 2002), Reid was a member of al-Qaeda and hbeen sent on the bombing mission by Khaled Shaikh Mohammed, a senior member of the organization.[2]
A British citizen born in Bromley, South London and educated at Thomas Tallis School in Kidbrooke, London. He is the son of an English mother and a Jamaican father, who spent most of Reid's childhood years in prison. Reid became involved in street crime, writing graffiti with the name Enrol with FRF crew,[3][4] and spent time in a number of prisons, including Blundeston Prison, and Feltham Young Offenders' Institution, where he converted to Islam. It is reported that Reid followed a form of Islam known as Salafi or Wahhabi.[5] (Wahhabism being the state form of Islam in Saudi Arabia)
Reid made multiple trips to Pakistan, purportedly to a virulent, anti-Christian seminary[6][7] run by Jamaat ul-Fuqra in Raiwind, near Lahore and founded by Mubarak Ali Gilani.
Eric Robert Rudolph (born September 19, 1966), also known as the Olympic Park Bomber, is an American far-right radical described by the Federal Bureau of Investigation as a terrorist[2] who committed a series of bombings across the southern United States which killed two people and injured at least 150 others.
Rudolph declared that his bombings were part of a guerrilla campaign against abortion and the "homosexual agenda". He spent years on the FBI Ten Most Wanted Fugitives until he was caught in 2003. In 2005, as part of a plea bargain, Rudolph pled guilty to Rudolph is most well known as the perpetrator of Centennial Olympic Park bombing in Atlanta which occurred on July 27, 1996, during the 1996 Summer Olympics. The blast killed spectator Alice Hawthorne and wounded 111 others. Melih Uzunyol, a Turkish cameraman who ran to the scene following the blast, died of a heart attack. Rudolph's motive for the bombings, according to his April 13, 2005 statement, was political:
numerous federal and state homicide charges and accepted five consecutive life sentences in exchange for avoiding a trial and a potential death sentence.
Well, that's four of them, ~ borderline anti-social minds that got twisted without any help from Beck ~ Can we image what lies ahead with his help and returning war Vets and the present climate? | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/22/2009 3:04:48 PM | | The actions of Republicans are not conservative and people should quit calling them conservatives. Republicans run up hugh deficits when they are in the White House and they act rude and violent on the streets and on the air. Obama is the one who is conservative and cares about all Americans. The Republicans are mean-spirited radicals who hate half the population. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/22/2009 3:48:08 PM | .
You need to know who Archibald Cox, Jr. was and what importance he played in recent American History.
Never hear Archies name ...... But you will hear about POOR old Bork........... ha ha
Bork Defender of the Constitution..........
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/23/2009 8:08:23 AM | | Archibald was Nixon's hatchet man. Sent in and fired the assign the "Special Prosecutor" to Water Gate. ~ it was an executive office power struggle. ~ I think it was termed " The Saturday Night Massacre" | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/23/2009 8:35:13 AM | .
Bork Fired Archie....
Archie Cox was the special prosecutor. Cox wanted the Tapes....
Nixon didn't want to comply.
Bork was the only person on the White House staff that would fire the Cox...
Even Gen. (I'm in charge) Haig wouldn't do it....
Something about the Constitution ..........
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/23/2009 1:19:03 PM | there you go ! Stupid gravity again ! I work it loose off the cuff , rarely google, rely on memory` Hadn't thought of Haig "I'm in charge" in awhile.
Then later down the line there was Casey's sudden demise leaving Ollie holding the bag for the CIA as the gentle giant snoozed his afternoons away with plausible deniability as a show card.
Through such events as these and the many others like them, political acumen is formed in a person. It's not for entertainers like Beck or Rush to tell us whats happening ~ they have become only another part of an ongoing huge circus. Often times, more of a distraction really, with some jaded bias , like an undisciplined dog that yelps at everything constantly. For Christ sakes , shut up dog! He only know that it's his job to bark but has no discriminating skills.
Another person I haven't thought of in awhile ~ Manuel Noriega , I wonder if he's still locked up as a Bush prisoner of war? ~ The man was running drugs ~ operative for the Cia, a one hand washed the other deal ~ Them Bush's ! ~ they enjoy life coming and going ~
And now we "need" Beck to tell us things "ain't" working anymore ???
That's damn funny!
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/28/2009 2:29:56 AM | Yeah, yeah, Dance, Republicans are to blame for everything--you losing your business, wife, and kids. Typical liberal whining--where's my handout? Reagan asked me to stand on my own two feet. Who the hell does he think he is?
Thank God Beck is reaching some of the population. They will be the one's prepared when "Helicopter Ben" attempts his tight rope walk over the Grand Canyon by trying to mop up the excess, excess cash by raising interest rates--the same cash the federal reserve pumped into the system by his keeping interest rates artificially non existent to prop up a house of cards that is the American economy. And Obama reappointed this SOB and agrees with this policy so he and Geitner can scream about how many jobs they saved, which is laughable with unemployment near 10 percent and them spending so much money that it makes George Bush look like a fiscal Conservative (which is also laughable).
I'm not a libertarian but they're leading the charge against this nonsense brinkmanship The President and his Band of Merry Men are playing with the economy right now and I agree with them 100 percent. Guys like Beck, Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, they have been predicting this for a long time. And so far they have been spot on.
You thought things were bad under a Republican? I don't think you have seen anything yet. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/28/2009 8:29:16 AM | Guys like Beck, Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, they have been predicting this for a long time. And so far they have been spot on.
I think you need to note that Ron Paul has predicted all of the bad things that has happened and are happening as the result of both Democrat AND Republican policies. Both parties have engaged themselves for decades in policies that neither one is good for America. RP is a Republican more for the ability to run on a ticket with viable chances to win an election but he is no more a fan of current Republican policies than he is Democrat policies.
I know that today's "Neo Cons" view Reagan as their Abraham... but they've perverted his policies into this new "anti everything that's not us" climate. He changed Republican politics by combining traditional Conservative values of small government in certain areas but implemented new philosophies of growing government in other areas increasing both spending and foreign interventionism. Reagan took jabs at Democrats... keeping in mind he once was one... but he didn't hate. He also was not a part of the fraternity that included his VP, Cheney, and pals. Every time I hear a Hannity or one of these New Republicans use Reagan's name, I think they do a disservice to him.
Again what Senator Graham wants is for the Republican party to go back to what it once was and these squawkers on talk radio and FOX News only hurt that wish for both he and those of us who also want the GOP to really stand for something good again.
And we've also lost sight that in the past Conservative values said to stand on your own two feet as best you can and do your part. There was compassion for those whose legs may not have been as strong as yours. Now that too has been negatively morphed into stand on your own two feet and if you can't, then die quietly. The biggest factor in these morphings is that people take their cues from failures like Limbaugh that stumbled into a media forum to spew and too many eat that crap up. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/28/2009 9:16:21 AM |
I think you need to note that Ron Paul has predicted all of the bad things that has happened and are happening as the result of both Democrat AND Republican policies.
Tell me where in all this I'm defending The Republican Party? Being a fan of Reagan is not the same as being a fan of The Republican Party. In my opinion The Republicans are as guilty as the Democrats in creating this mess but they have no real power right now. It's Obama's, Nazi Pelosi's, and Reid's show right now. Who cares what happened the last 8 years; I want to know how they're going to fix it. Spending us into oblivion, cronyism, and government take over of banks, health care, auto industry, mortgages, insurance, and energy is something I find appalling.
I know that today's "Neo Cons" view Reagan as their Abraham... but they've perverted his policies into this new "anti everything that's not us" climate.
You're kidding, right? I have talked to many liberals in my lifetime and anything right of Stalin and you're a right wing extremist. Liberals have no interest in debate, no interest in sharing power, no interest in working together. The way they see it--they're in power now and we have to accept anything and everything they do. We, who vote right of center, are too stupid to know what's good for us. Liberals are going to impose it on us for our own good. It's a kind of soft tyranny but tyranny, nonetheless.
I have said it many times--the states are where these issues should be fought, not at the federal level. It gives people (here comes that bad word that liberals hate so much) "the freedom and the choice" to move where they feel the politically comfortable.
And, yes, Reagan was "The Man." I doubt we'll see a leader like him for a very long time.
And we've also lost sight that in the past Conservative values said to stand on your own two feet as best you can and do your part. There was compassion for those whose legs may not have been as strong as yours. Now that too has been negatively morphed into stand on your own two feet and if you can't, then die quietly.
That's a bunch of bullshit. Conservatives donate far more money to social causes than liberals do. I think we're a little tired of watching people not work while having 10 kids they can't support so us, the tax payers, get stuck with the bill. We're a little tired of being told we're not compassionate for asking people to take responsibility for their lives, the good and the bad, and being forced by federal coercion to "spread the wealth."
I don't know where Lindsay stands but he's a typical of many politicians who tell us he's for the rule of law, limited government, and self responsibility while voting and supporting measures that are a 180 degrees the opposite direction such an immigration reform and this new health care monster the government wants to impose on everybody. When certain powerful people in the media call him out, like our Commander in Thief, he doesn't take too kindly to criticism. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/28/2009 10:07:30 AM | .
That's a bunch of bullshit. Conservatives donate far more money to social causes than liberals do.
You mean Social causes like ....name it and claim it ...
Bennie Hinn (bigger Gulf Stream) . Robert Tilton (prayer Napkin).. The Apple of Gods Eye....
All Tax Deduct able.... Social Causes.... How many BILLIONS?
Reagan? .......Contra's, Drugs dealing, Missiles to Iran, veto sanctions against South Africa, Mr General Electric...
.....The Biggest tax increase Ever? Reagan............
Another person I haven't thought of in awhile ~ Manuel Noriega , I wonder if he's still locked up as a Bush prisoner of war?
After hanging with all those Terrorist in the Super MAX Colo ....I think Mannie is Spending time in a Spanish prison..The same judge(?) that went after General Pinochet?....
Next on his list ... the Torture Clowns.....
Billy Casey..Too bad they removed speech from his brain... While he was still alive...He had stories...
Deals with the Iranians to hold the Hostages... Carter Debate notes... Missiles ...Money Drugs.....G Gordon Liddy... one of the Hit men... going to poison Jack Anderson... a Commie? Liddy just got busted too soon...working with the wrong guys.....a Bungled burgle.........
Maybe Hunt kicked them under the bus to save the country from an out of control Administration? Hunt a Patriot?
Compare Obama to Nixon.......... Enemy list..........
Who is Obama going to have the IRS go after>>>> Poison with LSD ???
Beck might become normal.....
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/28/2009 10:20:03 AM | Glen Beck has done a wonderful job highlighting the dangers that face this country. As far as I am concerned, Seneter Graham is a idiot.
If Glen Beck is so off track why has the white house not been able to refute his claims?
He uses sound bites of thier own words. It is not reckless to reveal the truth.
No one in the administration is fit to be there. Glen Beck has been a friend to freedom in showing thier true colors.
The only people who can really critisize Glen are those who love the murderous chairman Mao and the communist Karl Marx. For it is the poisonous ideology of these insane idiots that is driving the Obama whithouse. Obama is one big a$$ mistake america. It is time to wake up. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/28/2009 10:46:14 AM | How about Fox news itself?
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,569745,00.html
Looks like another Republican is dumping Glenn Beck. The Conservative party was shattered because of the last 8 years. If anything they need to be reaching out to grow and not appealing to the fringe loons. Seriously, how disfunctional is the conservative movement when even those from the far right like Graham and Newt are saying you guys are too crazy for me!
I don't like Beck but I also can't help but admire his ability to sell out all integrity he has for cash and to even steal from other Republicans. Anyone remember when Rush used to have a TV show? He used to do that bit playing a clip of a democrat talking while making funny faces. Glenn stole that. Or how about spending his show pleading and crying that we've lost our 'moral compass' only to hock his Christmas book at the end of the show? He stole that bit from Bill O'reilly.
And what's with all the props on his show? He seriously had a guy sit by a phone for a week - poor intern. The fact that some people actually think his bits are real is what really scares me. I guess his show is for those that find O'reilly too 'high brow'. Hey, whatever sells but he's not getting any of my money.
P.S. Oh and the "whitehouse phone" bit. That's another he stole from O'reilly. You invite someone on your show - like the President - and it doesn't matter whether you actually did or not because if they don't show you get to act like a big man and say that they must be too scared or lying to come show up; and if they do show up you get an exclusive interview. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/28/2009 4:02:58 PM |
Obama is one big a$$ mistake america. It is time to wake up.
He may be. But more than Obama himself, what most contributed to putting him there is years of "Neo-Con" run amok. This is what traditional Republicans like Graham and more Libertarian minded Republicans like Ron Paul are saying. That until the GOP wrests control of their party and Conservative ideas back from the radicals on the right, the party's relevance is in peril.
Graham is right and he hits the nail right on the head. It wasn't ACORN or a Liberal renaissance that elected Obama, it is the loud squawking of the radical talk radio hosts that have pushed the non-indoctrinated Conservatives and independents away from the GOP. The proof is in the last several elections where even long time incumbent Republicans are lucky to hold their districts. | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/28/2009 6:02:32 PM |
Why can't the left put their big girl panties on and just take the criticism and dissent that the right took for eights years
Uh...are you implying that the Right 'took' the dissent and criticism for eight years?
Seriously?
They 'took' it?
(little laughing fella is gettin' a workout tonight!)
No way did the Right meekly accept what the Left was telling them--we were traitors, we were unpatriotic, we didn't love America, we should just shut the eff up and respect our president...yeah...pull up the big-girl panties... | |
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| Is senator Graham calling it like it is?
Posted: 10/28/2009 6:08:08 PM | I notice that the source of the OP's article is The Huffington Post.
That blog is NOT a very credible news source. And it has been caught in several lies and misquotes of many Conservatives.
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/rich-noyes/2009/10/15/huffington-post-pulls-bogus-limbaugh-quotes
http://politicalrepublicanopinion.com/political-republican/desperate-times-for-democrats-the-huffington-post-lies-again
http://theliepolitic.com/2009/04/the-lies-and-hate-of-the-liberal-huffingtonpostcom-dont-stop/
So, maybe Graham's comments were taken out of context, or maybe Graham never said them.
But, on the other hand, many Conservatives, don't accept the claims of of the Birthers, or agree with everything Glenn Beck says (And a lot of Dems agree with some of Beck's ideas.)
O'Reilly and Hannity don't believe that Obama is still a Muslim, or that he was born in Kenya. And, so, IF Graham did say those things -- that just goes to prove that all us Right wing-nuts, Neo-Cons (or any other childish slur words one might want to call us ) really DON'T think in Lockstep.
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