| Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 6:31:06 PM |
sarcasm, as stated previously, is in the strict definition "insulting and meant to cause harm or hurt."
Hence in that sense it is wrong and not pleasant. And no one would enjoy receiving it unless they are Masochistic.
However most people do not mean it in the true definition. Most equate sarcasm to twisting ones words, using pun, irony etc to have fun. Harmless intentions. Attempts at humor and levity. Therefore Sarcasm is very good and used well it can be favorable for both.
Don Rickles mada living from insulting people. Millions loved his humor / sarcasm.
I myself never cared for his humor. I'm in the minority there.
Sarcasm may be a sign of intelligence, comedic timing, quick thinking etc. Ii may mask nervousness etc.
The poster who claimed it is due to sexual frustration... all I can say is I hope she was being "sarcastic"
ur the one who said its a sign of sexual frustration not me! all i said was how? i would classify u as someone with no kind of humor period! ive met guys like u, no type of humor nothing is ever funny to them and it puts me to sleep dearly!
some ppl find sarcasm funny and some dont. if you are one of those uptight ppl, oh god plz dont say anything funny to those kinds of ppl. with sarcasm, ppl say mine comes out like im insulting them which i am not. if i was insulting u, u would know it trust me. i use sarcasm for fun and to be witty. | |
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| Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 6:49:53 PM |
all I'd have is a big d!ck and a fat bank account.
Wow is this corny or what, but you had me at all I have is a big.....umm personality!  | |
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| Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 6:59:05 PM |
I don't like sarcasm even when I use it. It's a sign of sexual frustration although people will deny that, and the more vehement the denial the truer it is. For further reading on my opinion about sarcasm be sure to check any one or more of the many threads about it that other people started without knowing that you would come along later to ask about it yourself. Um, sorry
Farceur, if you started getting laid, the forums just wouldn't be the same.... | |
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| Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 7:13:41 PM |
Sarcasm is a form of humor that uses sharp, cutting remarks or language intended to mock, wound, or subject to contempt or ridicule.
This is the dictionary word of sarcasm.
I like people with a dry sense of humor and the biting words that flow back and forth. Sarcastic people are being funny while they tend to hurt you wtih words.........
I will take mine dry anytime......... | |
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| Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 7:43:33 PM | I think what the definition above misses is that sarcasm doesn't have to be directed at an individual. Could be directed at a non-person entity. Then no one is being insulted directly.
But sure, lots of use of sarcasm usually indicates a somewhat cynical worldview. Just how I like it | |
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| Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 10:19:17 PM | Blueceleste
I'm going to give you some advice and will try to bring it down to your level of understanding.
You need to read, comprehend and attempt to understand the postings on here prior to writing and placing posts that will demean yourself and show your lack of cerebral prowess.
You falsely accuse me of attacking your earlier post.
FACT: I did not. The earlier post referred to was made by farceur. And I made no insult to her merely commented on her statement. I never said you were the poster crediting sexual frustration with sarcasm.
Furthermore I never said it was to be equated either.
Secondly: You falsely state "ive met guys like u," this is not so. "guys like me" would not be interested in meeting the likes of you. I do not associate with judgmental common people who are not capable of having meaningful intelligent dialogue. You have not been fortunate enough to land someone like me. Without change you most likely never will.
As to putting you to sleep... yes that is likely. I would not be capable of keeping your attention for long. I have trouble only using ebonics, slang and words of four letters or less.
I can fully appreciate your statement of "if i was insulting u, u would know it trust me" You have made the mistake of insulting me. Either that or you have attempted sarcasm and are not adept at it. If it was your attempt at sarcasm, you need training. If it was your effort to insult me. You are far better off picking an opponent more your equal. You are not equipped to have a battle of wit nor the mind with me.
As you grow, hopefully you will learn this forum is a place to share knowledge, advice, opinions and recommendations. Not a place to attempt to bash, degrade or insult others. You really never know who you might tangle with. To put in a vernacular you might understand, In all ways you are messing with the wrong person.
As to my sense of humor... it must be pretty good as I'm currently laughing at you.
Thank you | |
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| Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 10:23:32 PM |
I do not associate with judgmental common people who are not capable of having meaningful intelligent dialogue. You have not been fortunate enough to land someone like me. Without change you most likely never will.
"Common people"? Are you effing kidding me?
As to putting you to sleep... yes that is likely. I would not be capable of keeping your attention for long. I have trouble only using ebonics, slang and words of four letters or less.
I'm pretty sure you mean "Eubonics" not "Ebonics" (look it up). Either way, I don't see her using that. Get off my thread you racist scum. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 10:31:41 PM | Farceur, if you started getting laid, the forums just wouldn't be the same.... Ah yes. So true. I like her somewhat dry, witty commentary.
use of sarcasm usually indicates a somewhat cynical worldview. Just how I like it Yes, how could I forget cynicism?
I think that is where my bipolar sprang up. Just when I have some optimism about the world and it's people and that makes me feel happeeee.... I'll be damned if one of these little buggers don't put a knife in it and deflate the whole dam thing.
Then you realize the only place you can be truly happy is in your mind. With the voices. And the drugs. And the voices who give you drugs. And the voices that are drugs. Who needs this dam world anyway.  | |
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| Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 10:39:19 PM |
Blueceleste
I'm going to give you some advice and will try to bring it down to your level of understanding.
You need to read, comprehend and attempt to understand the postings on here prior to writing and placing posts that will demean yourself and show your lack of cerebral prowess.
You falsely accuse me of attacking your earlier post.
FACT: I did not. The earlier post referred to was made by farceur. And I made no insult to her merely commented on her statement. I never said you were the poster crediting sexual frustration with sarcasm.
Furthermore I never said it was to be equated either.
Secondly: You falsely state "ive met guys like u," this is not so. "guys like me" would not be interested in meeting the likes of you. I do not associate with judgmental common people who are not capable of having meaningful intelligent dialogue. You have not been fortunate enough to land someone like me. Without change you most likely never will.
As to putting you to sleep... yes that is likely. I would not be capable of keeping your attention for long. I have trouble only using ebonics, slang and words of four letters or less.
I can fully appreciate your statement of "if i was insulting u, u would know it trust me" You have made the mistake of insulting me. Either that or you have attempted sarcasm and are not adept at it. If it was your attempt at sarcasm, you need training. If it was your effort to insult me. You are far better off picking an opponent more your equal. You are not equipped to have a battle of wit nor the mind with me.
As you grow, hopefully you will learn this forum is a place to share knowledge, advice, opinions and recommendations. Not a place to attempt to bash, degrade or insult others. You really never know who you might tangle with. To put in a vernacular you might understand, In all ways you are messing with the wrong person.
As to my sense of humor... it must be pretty good as I'm currently laughing at you.
Thank you
i am so glad they dont like me! yes, ive met guys like u thank god i showed them the door and was glad i didnt have to see them again. i dont pick dumbasses if thats what u mean. i did read what u said and if u dont like it oh well. i was laughing at u from the beginning when u ****ed about how u dont like sarcasm. sorry for typing short handed, get over it. if this was a business forum, i wouldnt use slang. now u got a prob with slang? i can tell by ur writing, u dont get out much and u certainly wouldnt be the kind of guy id be friends with. i got a man thank u very much! i wouldnt date douchebags.
how was i bashing? i just thought the comment about u not liking sarcasm was funny. i was bashing ur comment and how u again whined about it. i am so sorry for bein highly opinionated it runs in my family. i know what a forum is about, i dont go to forums to insult ppl. i dont say anything rude unless u insulted me 1st.
im messing with the wrong person? that was basically my line. if thats suppose to make me scared it didnt. i was agreeing that there is a time and place for sarcasm. i would consider u probably old and boring with no kind of social life if i was single and went on a date with u. i would say plz take me home ur driving me insane!
i wasnt insulting, i was just sayin u dont have a sense of humor and i would find u boring simple as that. i dont use ebonics dumbass, i do use slang not all the time. u really do sound like an old senile son of a **** by the way u talk. this is the net maybe u shouldnt take it seriously. i thought opinions were opinions? obviously not in this country so much for free speech. i simply gave an opinion thats all dont like it oh well tough luck isnt that life? | |
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| Sarcasm: Bad vs. Good
Posted: 10/5/2009 10:40:17 PM |
As to putting you to sleep... yes that is likely. I would not be capable of keeping your attention for long. I have trouble only using ebonics, slang and words of four letters or less.
I'm pretty sure you mean "Eubonics" not "Ebonics" (look it up). Either way, I don't see her using that. Get off my thread you racist scum.
exactly what ebonics? i think hes upset cuz i called him out on being boring and cant seem to handle sarcasm. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 10:41:27 PM | | ohh sirthinkalot, wow look at the ebonics in ur screen name. the only time i use ebonics is when i am joking around with friends, it isnt my everyday language could u try again? sounds like u lack the intelligence of a human. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 10:45:58 PM |
I'm pretty sure you mean "Eubonics" not "Ebonics"
it's kinda funny when someone corrects another person word or grammar usage using another wrong word or grammar. I think that's 'irony' - gotta love that too!
It's 'ebonics.'
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ebonics | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 10:53:49 PM | NappyKat:
"Eubonics: African American Vernacular English (AAVE)—also called African American English; less precisely Black English, Black Vernacular, Black English Vernacular (BEV), or Black Vernacular English (BVE)—is an African American variety (dialect, ethnolect and sociolect) of American English. Non-linguists sometimes call it Ebonics (a term that also has other meanings or strong connotations).
So apparently, Eubonics is the term preferred by modern linguists.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eubonics | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 10:56:49 PM | Wait a minute. I'm just a tad confused.
He doesn't like rap music. But I'm almost sure that his screen name is reminiscent of a rapper.
What was his name ?
You know, the one with the big booty anthem?
Kinda big?
Black?
Drives a hooptie?
What was that dude's name?
If only SirThinkALot could give me a clue..... | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 10:58:10 PM | oohlala21
I don't know why you would accuse me of being racist?
It is a stupid, ignorant, accusation.
Not worth defending.
I do not nor have i ever made racist statements. It is against my beliefs and nature to do or act in a racist way.
If I condemn someone for the way they act and behave it is that person I critisize. Never their race. Wherever you tried to make it up from. Perhaps you should take heed to check your facts first.
Whenever you are humble and decent enough to acknowledge your wrongdoing and false accusations you may make a public apology as you have chosen to publicly & wrongfully made false statements and insults.
I may be wrong in thinking this but somehow I doubt you will be honest enough to admit your wrongdoing.
That in of itself will show what you are. I need not prove it. You will.
BTW before further incorrect statements are made by you showing your lacking, perhaps you want to check your spelling before accusing others of mistakes.
What a shame you and your cohort have hijacked a fine thread with your unwarranted bashing and flaming.
Good night and good luck. You deserve each other. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 11:02:54 PM |
oohlala21
I don't know why you would accuse me of being racist?
That's pretty easy to address. Because she didn't use Eubonics/Ebonics, she used txt speak. But you insulted her intelligence and implied she used Ebonics. Would you have said that she was using Ebonics if she was white?
The irony of modern linguist having a preferred spelling for ebonics...
Well, Eubonics is a legit area of study in some universities now, you know? I've even heard of classes being taught in Eubonics (linguistics classes, not language classes). I don't think there's anything wrong with it. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 11:18:47 PM | Absolutely as I never looked to see what color anyone was. The posted image means nothing to me and I rarely look at it.
TXT speak is a form of "bonics"
read further: "As the shock subsided, the often sarcastic notion grew of making -onics or -bonics a suffix designating any dialect or distinctive way of talking. Among the countless inventions were Chicagonics for Chicago talk, Hebonics for Jewish speech styles, TVbonics for the language of television game shows, and Greasebonics or Mechanics English for the language of automobile repairpersons." refferenced from: http://www.answers.com/topic/ebonics
She did not use "TXT speak" She used lousy English, poor spelling, insults and a display of little to no communication skills.
Now as "ebonics" or other "bonics has been used in many forms by many people without a standardized definition for it perhaps that leaves the door open for each to use it in their own way subject to interpretation.
Did I insult her intelligence? I think not, I merely reaffirmed what she had already displayed. A complete lack of the aforementioned.
This entire thread has centered on the idea of Sarcasm and it's interpretation as to whether or not it is received as insult. Most have completely disregarded the definition of "sarcasm". The idea of whether it was meant as humor or insult is important. Yet some of the very people involved in this thread cannot understand their inability to comprehend the meaning in which a statement was intended. They instead chose to twist it into something it was not.
Yes these people are not ready to accept sarcasm. They could not appreciate good humor.
You bring up color. I never have. You might display racism I never will. I live to a much higher standard.
If I am wrong I am man enough to admit it.
I have seen you are not. All have seen you try to play the race card and your false accusations. You may attempt to weasel out of this but it has been shown.
At this point I really don't need the apology as it would be worthless.
Thank you for proving my point. | |
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Posted: 10/5/2009 11:42:33 PM | Sarcasm: intellect on the offensive
When pronouncing " rap" music, the c is silent | |
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Posted: 10/6/2009 12:01:53 AM | Just to clarify, I don't think Blueceleste used ebonics either. She used a lot of slang and net speak. Ebonics has a specific way of speaking and use of language. There's a lot of tonality.
I'm fond of using ebonics and one of my favorite is the use of the word of 'been.'
I been to the store already.
(meaning I have already been to the store)
When did she get married?
Oh girl, she BEEN married!
(meaning she has been married for quite a while).
I ain't been doin'nat!
(meaning I haven't been doing that).
There are others but that's the one that comes to the top of my head and that I use most often in real language.
The irony of modern linguist having a preferred spelling for ebonics is that in ebonics a lot of words are spelled like it sounds and some part of the sound and the word is cut off. For instance, the word 'finna' or 'fina' might be considered ebonics (I'm not sure if it is, but I think so). It's not a real word, but it definitely has a real meaning. You can spell it either way and it doesn't matter. It means 'I am going to do (something).' I do not discount that linguist and language professors have been studying ebonics (or 'eubonics') and see it as a viable way to converse or teach. I am not a linguist tho, so I have never heard or read of ebonics being spelled or said with an 'eww' in it.
tho = though. I use that a lot too. Guess that's ebonics. | |
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Posted: 10/6/2009 6:12:27 AM | It has been said that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit – but I do use it at work – I do work in a rather unusual place though!!: | |
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Posted: 10/6/2009 6:17:01 AM | There's just something about a truly genius burn that's just hard to get angry about.
I can be in the middle of a shouting match with somebody, and if they make a particularly witty remark that totally catches me off guard, I'll end up shutting up, staring for a moment, then rolling on the ground laughing  | |
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Posted: 10/6/2009 6:28:18 AM |
It has been said that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit – but I do use it at work – I do work in a rather unusual place though!!:
I'm sorry to say, but wit is about dead in this day and age. Seems a lot of people think that being intelligent and using it to build a solid argument is a form of wit... and it isn't, it's just a highbrow argument.
Sounding smart doesn't make you witty, sorry =\ | |
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