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 zeegary

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Posted: 10/7/2009 12:30:03 AM

I have been too concerned with civil liberties and not concerned enough with civic duty.


After all, it doesn't matter who catches the shoplifters.


In the following hypothetical situation,I would be only too supportive of a non-member (let's call them a stranger) , who might monitor these threads (I believe they can do that), to take copies of a post that strongly suggest that a certain ethnic group have brought emnity on themselves, and to report to the police alleged incitement to racial hatred. I believe that two British citizens have just been imprisoned for such a crime.


Then it wasn't 'hypothetical', was it?


I don't doubt that the police (in this hypothetical situation) might be able to track down this person from Facebook connections.


The police use all kinds of methods to trace people these days, and I have no problem with that.


Would you agree that this stranger was fulfilling their civic duty?


Hardly, given the hypothetical situation you used, and I'm surprised that two people went to jail for making such a trivial suggestion. Have you further details of it?

However, I have no problem with anyone who reports signs of potentially criminal activity.


i doubt that the guard in my store would be overly happy to act on information recieved from someone else....


Well, if that person was employed by the store, he would have no choice!
 vwulme

Joined: 10/18/2008
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Posted: 10/7/2009 12:55:56 AM
OP I hardly think calling CCTV monitoring spying is valid.

Shoplifters are criminals who steal from everyone of us by virtue of the fact that the shops charge extra to allow for the cost of what thieves take.
 lalby

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Posted: 10/7/2009 2:01:42 AM
As part of my job i do crowd profiling and some of the stuff i see is amazingly shocking and other stuff is amazingly funny...and i love it.

But there is no way i would want to go home and watch people shopping just on the off chance you will spot a thief.

I think the money would be alot better spend on an extra store detective or some sort of instore cctv and paying someone to sit and watch it there.
 SamsoniteBling

Joined: 5/30/2008
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Posted: 10/7/2009 6:58:43 AM
For £1000 a time I would encourage people to go and shoplift. Hell, I might even offer them 40% of my takings to go out and do it!
 Paulinemab

Joined: 9/29/2009
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Posted: 10/7/2009 7:07:47 AM
It's not going to be a grand a time

If viewers stop a crime in progress an incentive of £1,000 cash could be on offer. The key word for me is could, the link I gave earlier says that people have to press a button every time they see a crime in progress and collect points. It could be a fiver a time for all anyone knows, it's actually very vague as to how much money someone will get if they report a crime.
 SamsoniteBling

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Posted: 10/7/2009 7:17:16 AM
Oh :( Sod it then. Let anarchy rule. I'll be better off going out and shoplifting myself!
 finbarrsaunders

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Posted: 10/7/2009 9:47:28 AM
Zeegary - I am red faced with embarrassement that my post was of such poor clarity that a question might be asked about it.
Two British men have been sent to prison for inciting racial hatred on the internet. Under different circumstance to my hypothetical example. I was attempting to communicate that these things can happen.There is no connection between my hypothetical example and the case I had in mind.

Would you do me the honour of clarifying something?

The word 'fcuking'. I don't think for one minute that a person who uses logic and common sense on these posts would have tried to type in a rude word and mis-spell it.

Am I right in thinking that 'fcuking' is a neologism? I can't find it in my dictionary. Hence the reason I ask. Is it in the OED?

If you could help me on this I would be more indebted than Cyril Fletcher could conceive of in his wildest dreams.

I have to admit I felt a bit uncomfortable typing 'that' word. I fear that it might startle a dyslexic perrson.

I remain your humble servant

Finbarr
 cheekyjules

Joined: 1/25/2008
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Posted: 10/7/2009 9:50:16 AM
Yeah... sure would.. I live in Stratford district

I could hottie hunt... they better not be shoplifting though else I will nail their ass!!!
 - Hula Moo -

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Posted: 10/7/2009 9:57:02 AM

Those shoplifters were taking money from the workers, by diminishing their profit share, so would I spy on them and report them?


By taking part in a such a scheme, aren't the general public doing a similar thing to the security guards? Taking jobs from them?
 vwulme

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Posted: 10/7/2009 10:12:00 AM

'fcuking' is a neologism
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Oh fin you are a card, I love to learn something everyday.

I thought that that particular neologism referred to a chain of clothing retailers.

Perhaps instead of CCTV stores should enlist the help of the people, usually blokes who sit on the seats outside changing rooms. Then they would have a purpose in life and might not sit there looking as if they have lost the will to live.
 Keynotes99

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Posted: 10/17/2009 11:19:20 AM
Hello yes I would be happy to spy on shoplifters, as they are wrong and it costs us the public more money for the same items as they are pinching because of the shops losses..............so come on everybody join forces and stop shoplifters..............because the cost of what they pinch..............we are paying for!!!!
 1LOVEJELLY

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Posted: 11/15/2009 5:26:22 PM
hell yes

I am thinking of moving there ASAP
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