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Posted: 10/11/2009 12:36:37 AM
We interrupt our regularly scheduled bickering, er, programming with this incoming message from the Minister of Dudeness:



I generally don't read people's profiles on message boards (and after seeing her pictures, I wish I hadn't). In that case, my post should have read, "Yes, I got your email, and while I'm flattered by the offer, you're too ugly for me."

Bring the one called Elmenreich to me...

So, you're Elmenreich. Listen good, you need to fall out of love with yourself long enough to pay attention to the following instructions:

You shall not reduce the entire male species to being no better than mere dogsh1t on the soles of someone's shoes by making such personal, insulting remarks to women. You are hereby awarded with that exclusive status (read: you are complete dogsh1t, you fool...) And we--meaning all of the members, especially the males, of The Califorum hereby wipe our collective feet to get rid of you and your stench.

No Real Man ever behaves in anything other than a gentlemanly manner towards women--even towards the women who can and do speak their minds. Perhaps you find that trait in some women to be threatening to your fragile male ego. So then man up, Peter Effing Pan.

It's one thing to become a bit too passionate when trading opposing political viewpoints, like we often do here in The Califorum. (Okay make that always instead of often...) But everyone on these heated threads would probably go out for beers together in person if given the opportunity and would probably end up with a grudging respect for each other as being nice, smart people who just have different viewpoints on how to approach things. But you--you are the exception. Nobody likes, or respects, an a$$hole. And aren't you a teacher? Yikes. You remind me of school in August... (No class).

Be advised that me and every other man here are proud--and relieved--not to be your father. Oh, and while we are on the subject, let's give your old man a shoutout... "Hey Mr. Elmenreich! ... Nice work with the boy. Whaddya do, phone it in when it was time to teach him how to be a man?"

I would say that I await your reply that will be predictably turgid, desperate, and in keeping with All Things You--irrelevant, but I'm too busy wiping dogsh1t off of my shoes. Bottom line, I know you are quite used to getting picked last when we choose teams, but quit being a jagoff to women, so when you are being you, you won't also always end up being your own birth control.

You're dismissed. Go.

And I threw your shoes outside...
 Natasha Fatale

Joined: 9/12/2009
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Posted: 10/11/2009 6:54:02 AM
M.O.D: I hope the new health care initiative includes coverage for Podiatric Lifts.

*Poster's this short may not be messaged.*




...or sumthin' like that.
 AceOfSpace

Joined: 5/28/2007
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Posted: 10/11/2009 11:16:41 AM
MD,

Masterfully done, though not exactly the help I was asking for. If you'd point that incisiveness at the flippin' contard sh1theads, I'd certainly be grateful, and so would everyone else who is interested in going out for beers and developing respectful discussions over our disagreements.

I await your response.
 Elmenreich

Joined: 9/23/2009
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Posted: 10/11/2009 12:21:23 PM

You shall not reduce the entire male species to being no better than mere dogsh1t on the soles of someone's shoes by making such personal, insulting remarks to women. You are hereby awarded with that exclusive status (read: you are complete dogsh1t, you fool...) And we--meaning all of the members, especially the males, of The Califorum hereby wipe our collective feet to get rid of you and your stench.
Um how am I supposed to deal with someone who follows me around, claiming I should be waterboarded?
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Posted: 10/11/2009 12:34:30 PM
Ace

Mr. Smooth Operator has just taken himself out of the game as to his credibility level. The classless and unbelievably rude amongst us are so self-adoring that they are too distracted to realize their style is so off-putting that it completely blocks the content of their opinion. The intellectual midgets are so beholden to being narcisscists that they don't realize the greatest sin of all... which is being simply ineffective. Never mind the wasted effort spent in being non-contributory. Also, they provide fodder for those of differing opinions to assume sterotyping, which then hinders true dialogue.

I have not noticed any contards descending into ugly personal attacks regarding an individual's looks, but if I do, I shall pull their file then bring them in for a little chat.


Um how am I supposed to deal with someone who follows me around, claiming I should be waterboarded?


A Real Man does not lower themselves to resorting to personal insults against women, as all of the more evolved persons who are observing such a desperate tactic then focus on the insulter and not the insultee. Learn how to work the spotlight if you want results that advance the position that you advocate.

Besides, if you do not respect someone's opinion--such as you should be waterboarded--why be hurt and threatened by something that you don't give credence to? Do you run from a growling chihuahua like you would from a growling pit bull?


 Elmenreich

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Posted: 10/11/2009 2:22:43 PM
why be hurt and threatened by something that you don't give credence to?
Where did I say I don't give credence to this threat? While I find the threat somewhat unlikely, the poster in question lives in the same city as I do, and could possibly turn her e-stalking into RL-stalking. Seriously, she's been posting one to three responses to every post I make, and it's starting to get spooky. I was stalked by an ex-girlfriend earlier this year, and I don't want a repeat of those actions, so I nipped this one in the bud.
 fzrhusker

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Posted: 10/11/2009 2:33:52 PM
Elmenrich let me extend you the same courtesy, though I am not gay, if I were you would be to ugly for me. You would fit in to the Barney Frank of gayness looks. I also hope not to offend any gay person by including you in this example.
 matchlight

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Posted: 10/11/2009 2:42:16 PM
I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I think some women can be a real threat. I got into a discussion about health care with one at my gym the other day, and when she raised her voice, well, I have to say it scared me. I'm serious--they make little knives disguised to look just like a lipstick case, for example. I wouldn't put it past one of the "tough Tessies" I see lifting weights in the gym to hide behind a tree and jump me on my way back to my car. I've been able to bulk up from 105 to about 110 pounds, but I'm still a little "on the lean side" for any kind of rough stuff.
 Elmenreich

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Posted: 10/11/2009 2:44:58 PM

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I think some women can be a real threat. I got into a discussion about health care with one at my gym the other day, and when she raised her voice, well, I have to say it scared me. I'm serious--they make little knives disguised to look just like a lipstick case, for example. I wouldn't put it past one of the "tough Tessies" I see lifting weights in the gym to hide behind a tree and jump me on my way back to my car. I've been able to bulk up from 105 to about 110 pounds, but I'm still a little "on the lean side" for any kind of rough stuff.
The incident in question ended with the woman missing, with one person saying that she killed herself. Maybe I jumped the gun a little bit; I just don't want to get involved in an incident like that again.
 matchlight

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Posted: 10/11/2009 5:09:50 PM

The incident in question ended with the woman missing, with one person saying that she killed herself. Maybe I jumped the gun a little bit; I just don't want to get involved in an incident like that again.


Golly, I wish you'd said so in the first place! Must have been very traumatic for you. You know, the same person who threatened you once responded to one of my posts with something so hurtful it almost made me weep. I think most people on this forum know how mean she is, but they're just afraid to call her on it. Yes, you--and if you read this, don't you dare torment me again by talking about chocolates, or I'll pout!
 allthingscnsdrd

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Posted: 10/11/2009 5:34:01 PM
OMFG.....I'm gonna take my ugly, bad@## self and my waterboard.............and yes Match, my chocolates ....................

.....................................................................and go torment Canadians.

(he said I was mean? *sniff sniff* now I'm gonna pout)

p.s - Reichman................don't flatter yourself by thinking you're the only one, I stalk all the people in the Califorum...........even the women.
 fzrhusker

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Posted: 10/11/2009 5:35:19 PM
Please please stalk me, me, me
 allthingscnsdrd

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Posted: 10/11/2009 5:44:08 PM
^^^watch it or I'll poke you with my knife, disguised in my lipstick case.
 califboomergirl

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Posted: 10/11/2009 6:04:21 PM
And you know the difference only between a terrorist and an angry woman?
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Lipstick
 Elmenreich

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Posted: 10/11/2009 7:43:58 PM

Please please stalk me, me, me
You obviously haven't seen her pictures.
 Natasha Fatale

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Posted: 10/11/2009 10:49:24 PM
The latest health care initiative is cumbersome at best and a death sentence at worst.

Give it up, the gay guy doesn't even want you*.

To try to change almost a century-long way of doing business with just one bill...scary.

Is that a lipstick in your pocket, or are you just glad to see me?

The DMV can't even process my car registration properly, how are they gonna manage my health care?




*sorry fuzzer.
 allthingscnsdrd

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Posted: 10/12/2009 12:50:37 AM
^^^The DMV is going to manage your health care?


 Natasha Fatale

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Posted: 10/12/2009 7:07:12 AM
you're windy and wild,
you've got the blues in your shoes
and your stockings
you're windy and wild, oh yeah
you're built like a car, you've got a hub cap diamond star halo
you're dirty sweet and you're my girl.

get it on, bang the gong, get it on
get it on, bang the gong, get it on

Yep, that's me!
 sd_matt

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Posted: 10/12/2009 5:51:50 PM
Pirate

I agree with repealing the 1945 legislation. Also allowing inter-state competition.

Beyond that it is still a sea of info.
 pirateheaven

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Posted: 10/12/2009 6:12:58 PM

I agree with repealing the 1945 legislation. Also allowing inter-state competition.
Beyond that it is still a sea of info


It's really a lot of misinformation out there. It's really not that complicated.

Just doing those two things would greatly lower health insurance costs.

You can do some research here:

http://www.heritage.org/leadershipforamerica/health-care.cfm
 AceOfSpace

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Posted: 10/12/2009 6:21:48 PM
Yep. At some point consolidation will take place, but we'll have recourse via antitrust enforcement. Right now we have essentially none.
 matchlight

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Posted: 10/12/2009 7:13:41 PM

Just doing those two things would greatly lower health insurance costs.


I agree. It would also help to repeal the state laws that force private health insurers to pay for all kinds of silly, elective services. Everyone who doesn't use these services helps pay for them.

The central problem with medical insurance is that the consumer of medical services doesn't pay their actual cost. Neither they nor the providers of those services have much incentive to use them efficiently. The doctor orders more tests to protect himself from malpractice claims, and the patient doesn't care, because "the insurance" is picking up the tab.

But the insurance company has to make a profit, so it increases its charge. And now that most people expect their employers to pay for their health insurance, employers have to decrease wages to keep the total compensation they pay workers from increasing. They may do this either by decreasing wage rates or by reducing their work force.
 Barbe1963

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Posted: 10/12/2009 7:28:45 PM
Or they do what alot of employers are doing right now, and hiring only part time workers. Two of them to each work 20-30 hours a week so that they don't have to provide benefits. During my job search, I keep running across this.


Oh and Minister? You are my hero!



 GolfCoast

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Posted: 10/13/2009 6:56:56 AM
This morning's reporting on the Healthcare Bill making it's way through the Senate Finance Committee states there is no Tort reform, a sure sign of a fraudulent bill in my opinion. Further PriceWaterhouseCooper's study performed for the insurance industry states that $200B per year is spent by Doc's in defensive medicine.

So there you have at least one pillar of the truth, this bill is not about efficiency or cost reduction's, rather a 'path to a single payer, share the misery plan, like Canada and UK and others are trying to run from.
 fzrhusker

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Posted: 10/13/2009 8:55:24 AM
The Health care bill is a 1000 pages of setting up bureaucracy. There are no specifics in the bill. This is not about Obama , or congress. This about trusting the government machine, those life long bureaucrats that will be creating the panels, boards and managers that will be creating the regulations with little or no congressional oversight. How many federal programs under the machine have gone out of control are bloated, and have created really bad regulations. DO you really trust the system. Be honest.
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