| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/19/2009 8:19:22 PM | As far as any evidence that contradicts my assertion that the committee awarded the prize to Obama in an attempt to somehow influence his future foreign policy decisions...No Proof at all has been offered that adequately contradicts it.
You made the claim, the onus is on you to prove it.
Much opinion and criticism but thats about it....
Perhaps you haven't realized, but all your posts about the prize on this thread are nothing but opinions and criticism. | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/19/2009 9:27:51 PM | Ok for the last time,out of their own mouths,The committee disagrees with you and feels it was for what he accomplished.Once again we show proof and you show opinions,there is a significant difference. Go ahead,say wheres the proof now ,we're have gotten used to you,we expect you to say it,I could do this in Swahili or Sanskrit if that would be better for you ! Look,if this was court this firsthand statement from committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland would probably be substantial proof,after all its his prize,he and his partners unanimously thinks Obama has done something and so do we,in court it would be up to you to disprove his reasons stated below.I think we all need to come to grips that no proof available will be sufficient for you to accept this ,so this is a finished and sufficiently proved topic for me ,and will have to be a second shooter on the grassy knoll for you.Good luck with that !
OSLO – Members of the Norwegian committee that gave Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize are strongly defending their choice against a storm of criticism that the award was premature and a potential liability for the U.S. president.
"We simply disagree that he has done nothing," committee chairman Thorbjoern Jagland told the AP on Tuesday. "He got the prize for what he has done."
Jagland singled out Obama's efforts to heal the divide between the West and the Muslim world and scale down a Bush-era proposal for an anti-missile shield in Europe.
"All these things have contributed to — I wouldn't say a safer world — but a world with less tension," Jagland said by phone from the French city of Strasbourg, where he was attending meetings in his other role as secretary-general of the Council of Europe.
He said most world leaders were positive about the award and that most of the criticism was coming from the media and from Obama's political rivals.
"I take note of it. My response is only the judgment of the committee, which was unanimous," he said, adding that the award to Obama followed the guidelines set forth by Alfred Nobel, the Swedish industrialist and inventor of dynamite, who established the Nobel Prizes in his 1895 will.
"Alfred Nobel wrote that the prize should go to the person who has contributed most to the development of peace in the previous year," Jagland said. "Who has done more for that than Barack Obama?" | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 6:09:27 AM | Seems that the committee does have some expectations due to Obama's pledges. Interesting it can be seen in their interview following.
In announcing the award Friday, the committee, whose members are appointed by the Norwegian Parliament, applauded the change in global mood brought by Obama's calls for peace and cooperation. They also praised his pledges to reduce the world stock of nuclear arms, ease U.S. conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthen the U.S. role in combating climate change.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5irLyPrFK_rtRwMOsfjRBFjGDVZCgD9BAFHMO0
Strangely the Nobel Prize is still making questionable headlines after all this time.
Nobel committee should consider prize recipients more closely I hope what comes of all of this controversy is for those committee members to decide on the winner with better reasons. Indeed, among the 205, I'm sure Obama deserved to be among those candidates. However, out of all those nominees I truly have to question if he was the best. I hope Obama takes the prize money and not only puts it toward a charitable cause as he intends but also puts the money toward buying some white doves for Norway. Those doves could symbolize peace and maybe could be the first physical evidence of how President Obama promoted peace. http://media.www.miamistudent.net/media/storage/paper776/news/2009/10/20/OpedPage/Nobel.Committee.Should.Consider.Prize.Recipients.More.Closely-3807291.shtml#4
In the Name of Hope: Perpetual War and the Nobel Peace Prize
When Dr. Lundestad was asked about the danger of setting high expectations for Pres. Obama, he chuckled nervously. "Of course, he can do all kinds of things in his remaining term," he admitted. "But he should not be afraid that the Nobel Committee will denounce him. We never denounce our laureates, we always stand by them." In that moment, one couldn't help but feel that the Committee was only a reflection of society.
The hopeless leading the hopeless -- in the name of hope. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/hamdan-a-yousuf/in-the-name-of-hope-perpe_b_324494.html | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 6:19:32 AM | Hamdan Azhar is a graduate student--the article quoted is little more than an essay--hardly 'headline' material.
The 'Miami Student' is a university 'news'paper.
Again--hardly what one would call 'headline' material.
Seriously.
THIS is the 'research' we're being asked to accept as valid?
And... | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 6:21:53 AM | I did make a mistake, the rules state that the nominator keep the nomination secret.Many nominators tell anyways.
http://www.prio.no/About/PeacePrize/PRIO-Directors-Speculations-2009/
The bottom list on the page is the list of Confirmed names...
A few on the original list I posted are not the above referenced confirmed list-
Mukwege-Jan Egeland, director of Oslo's Norwegian Institute of International Affairs, said he nominated Denis Mukwege
Pete Seegar- was nominated after a campaign.
Do-was put forward when a campaign recruited lawmakers to nominate him | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 6:26:22 AM |
Strangely the Nobel Prize is still making questionable headlines after all this time.
And then you go on to cite the Miami University of Ohio student paper? That is your media source for the big ongoing controversy? That was on the Opinion page, you'll be happy to know that the front page story was about the new bus that takes students all the way to Walmart. I know we all google search to find a source to support us, I hope the high school newspapers don't start jumping on this hot story next. | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 6:28:12 AM | One could fill this page up with article after article. The fact is that this award is still at issue today.
From the Washington Times they found that the committee was split.
Nobel committee originally split on ObamaA majority of Norwegian Nobel Committee members initially were opposed to giving the Nobel Peace Prize this year to President Obama, the Norway tabloid daily Verdens Gang reported Thursday.
The paper said several sources confirmed that three of the five members were opposed to Mr. Obama's receiving the prize. The stunning announcement of his award was made Friday, just nine months after Mr. Obama took office.
The report appears to contradict committee Secretary Geir Lundestad's statement during the announcement that "the committee was unanimous."
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/15/nobel-committee-originally-split-obama/ | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 7:21:48 AM |
The fact is that this award is still at issue today.
From the Washington Times they found that the committee was split.
Perhaps you didn't notice in the article the use of the word 'initially'. After debate, all the members of the committee agreed on the choice of Obama. This was covered pages ago in this thread. | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 7:42:12 AM | One could fill this page up with article after article. The fact is that this award is still at issue today.
From the Washington Times they found that the committee was split. Nobel committee originally split on ObamaA majority of Norwegian Nobel Committee members initially were opposed to giving the Nobel Peace Prize this year to President Obama, the Norway tabloid daily Verdens Gang reported Thursday. The paper said several sources confirmed that three of the five members were opposed to Mr. Obama's receiving the prize. The stunning announcement of his award was made Friday, just nine months after Mr. Obama took office. The report appears to contradict committee Secretary Geir Lundestad's statement during the announcement that "the committee was unanimous." http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/15/nobel-committee-originally-split-obama/ This allows you to quote a previous post.
Again a disingenuous post. Even if the information were to be considered legitimate that there was disagreement when the process of selection started, which would be the normal thing to happen considering that there are five members who could have different opinions about the merits of different nominees. The important factor is that after their discussion they reached a unanimous vote, and therefore their vote was unanimous, and not as you say. For you to take that position would seem to me that you are being influenced a little bit by the opinions of those student newspapers. Or, perhaps you are just trying to continue of that ill-advised path of spewing nonsense against president Obama, like a stupid compilation of jokes that backfire against the conservatives.
By the way, do you research too? | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 7:47:28 AM |
I did make a mistake, the rules state that the nominator keep the nomination secret.Many nominators tell anyways
OK., that's more like what a serious debater should do when his post is questioned! Kind of late, but will take it anyways. Of course it would take someone with a lot of courage to stand up and say: "I apologize. I was making sh.t up, and wasn't paying attention to what you were asking me."
Maybe next time! | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 7:58:19 AM |
This was covered pages ago in this thread. Ahhhh yes ,the typical reissuing of already well debated to death old info. And not even what anyone might call credible ,except for the Washington post,problem is" initial "disagreements and concerns gave way to a unanimous vote.
Look in my opinion any paper can have a good story,a high quality writer,or one that's all about his or her research.On the other hand if you work for the Enquirer or the Star then they will not allow you to use your good writing ethics or do a quality story.I think most very young college writers are trying very hard to come up with a sensational story with too much of their own enthusiasm blended in,as if the hope to get the reader to lean towards their hunch or opinion.I remember my college paper "Student rocks the cafeteria and almost causes pandemonium by attempting to have the Coke machine removed" when in actuality is caused a lot of students to question WTF never was there a organized concern,never did anyone raise there voice but it did make a sensational story,in fact it probably brought it to the attention of everyone in the school that had not heard. | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 9:48:11 AM |
One could fill this page up with article after article. The fact is that this award is still at issue today.
From the Washington Times they found that the committee was split. Nobel committee originally split on ObamaA majority of Norwegian Nobel Committee members initially were opposed to giving the Nobel Peace Prize this year to President Obama, the Norway tabloid daily Verdens Gang reported Thursday. The paper said several sources confirmed that three of the five members were opposed to Mr. Obama's receiving the prize. The stunning announcement of his award was made Friday, just nine months after Mr. Obama took office. The report appears to contradict committee Secretary Geir Lundestad's statement during the announcement that "the committee was unanimous." http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/oct/15/nobel-committee-originally-split-obama/
Perhaps you could explain to us just exactly how...
... a decision that relies on majority vote could be made if the majority are opposed to it?
Like seriously...
It is amazing how some will propose the most ludicrous and ridiculous of theses that fly in the face of the most simple of logic and common sense, as if no-one will ever notice.
*shakes head in disbelief* | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/20/2009 12:58:24 PM | I'm still trying to figure out how Gandhi was awarded the Oscar for best picture in 1982 over E.T. and Tootsie?
what were they thinking?
"shakes head in disbelief" | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/24/2009 8:12:15 AM | Butch the Rooster
John the farmer was in the fertilized egg business. He had several hundred young layers (hens), called "pullets" and eight or ten roosters, whose job was to fertilize the eggs.
The farmer kept records and any rooster that didn't perform went into the soup pot and was replaced. That took an awful lot of his time so he bought a set of tiny bells and attached them to his roosters. Each bell had a different tone so John could tell from a distance, which rooster was performing. Now he could sit on the porch and fill out an efficiency report simply by listening to the bells. The farmer's favorite rooster was old Butch, and a very fine specimen he was, too. But on this particular morning John noticed old Butch's bell hadn't rung at all!
John went to investigate. The other roosters were chasing pullets, bells-a-ringing. The pullets, hearing the roosters coming, would run for cover. But to Farmer John's amazement, Butch had his bell in his beak, so it couldn't ring. He'd sneak up on a pullet, do his job and walk on to the next one. John was so proud of Butch, he entered him in the Boone County Fair and Butch became an overnight sensation among the judges.
The result.. The judges not only awarded Butch the No Bell Piece Prize but they also awarded him the Pulletsurprise as well. Clearly Butch was a politician in the making: who else but a politician could figure out how to win two of the most highly coveted awards on our planet by being the best at sneaking up on the populace and screwing them when they weren't paying attention? | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/24/2009 9:51:46 AM |
Loved it I think this is one of the best jokes yet !!!!
Leave it to you to like old recycled jokes. Of course, the poster that posted the joke didn't have the integrity to tell you that he was cutting and pasting it from another site (or e-mail.) | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/24/2009 9:54:02 AM |
Leave it to you to like old recycled jokes. Of course, the poster that posted the joke didn't have the integrity to tell you that he was cutting and pasting
it from another site (or e-mail.)
Or that it is totally off-topic to this thread.
A lot of that going around on this board, lately.
Do you suppose it's because when one has no real foundation, one pulls something outa one's ass in an attempt to distract from the real topic?
Obama won the Nobel.
Get the eff over it. | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/24/2009 10:25:46 AM |
Of course, the poster that posted the joke didn't have the integrity to tell you that he was cutting and pasting it from another site (or e-mail.)
Why state the obvious? I wouldn't want to insult the intelligence of the readers here as some do. But it's still a funny joke and indicative of what the Peace Prize has become to many, many people. Those that get all upset against other people's understandable reaction to the whole affair are just going to have to get over it themselves. | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/24/2009 10:28:37 AM |
Or that it is totally off-topic to this thread.
A lot of that going around on this board, lately.
Do you suppose it's because when one has no real foundation, one pulls something outa one's ass in an attempt to distract from the real topic?
Obama won the Nobel.
Get the eff over it. Well their bags of tricks is empty ! Some voiced there opinion then left and the true haters filled this thread with complaints and walked repeatedly around the facts,and when the dust settled all they have been left with are jokes to tell and their sidekicks that have so little to say that they can only come in occasionally to compliment the joker.
Most every Obama thread has died on topic and its just conversation amongst online friends,when a thread starts and the haters throw a couple pages of rotten tomatoes then after that there is nothing more to say at that point,Most Obama threads have had little topic importance such as "Obama's going to give children a pep talk" or my favorite hate thread.The" Obama supports his cousin Odingas killings of Black Christians " thread as nothing but chatter now.like with that one it only takes a couple people to point out its not his cousin and you made it up and then its 90 posts of chatter,mainly "I hate Obama" chatter. | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/24/2009 10:34:11 AM |
and then its 90 posts of chatter,mainly "I hate Obama" chatter
Sounds like its not as much fun on these boards for some, you know like when George W. Bush was President Of The United States Of America. | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/24/2009 11:19:40 AM | Why state the obvious? I wouldn't want to insult the intelligence of the readers here as some do.
Why saying "here is a joke that I just got from a friend of mine" or "this joke has been around for a few years, and it makes a lot of sense now," would be seen as intending "to insult the intelligence of the readers here"? Why telling the truth would be an insult to the readers? I don't understand that kind of thinking.
I like a good and creative story, and I would have given you credit if that was original.
The ones that "are going to have to get over it themselves" are those who can't stop hating our president for having been honored with the Nobel Peace Prize award. There will be a ceremony that will be shown world-wide, and our president will walk up to the podium with the dignity of a man of peace to receive the award, and then he will seize the opportunity to deliver his acceptance speech to send a message of peace to the world. The sitting president of the United States addressing the world from that podium isn't any ordinary ocurrence, is truly a once in a lifetime event.
So, pass around all the jokes that you want, and impress the lightweights all you want, but in the end the joke is on you, reduced to cut and paste old stuff without having the guts to say "this is old stuff." | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/24/2009 11:23:25 AM |
There will be a ceremony that will be shown world-wide, and our president will walk up to the podium with the dignity of a man of peace to receive the award, and then he will seize the opportunity to deliver his acceptance speech to send a message of peace to the world.
Will this before or after he sends an additional 40,000 troops off to fight a war? | |
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| President Obama Wins The Nobel Peace Prize!
Posted: 10/24/2009 12:33:37 PM |
Evidently so does the Norwegian Nobel Committee. Evidently you don't wish to deal with facts only opinion ,obviously you didn't read as to why the committee voted for him,it was for accomplishments not stories as if your the smug smart American and the Norwegian is just an easy to con with a simple story,please deal with the facts,I am amazed that America is not thrilled to death that America will take this prize and stand tall in front of the world,I am amazed at no support for America,you all are so blinded with dislike for Obama you'll spit on our country in the process
Will this before or after he sends an additional 40,000 troops off to fight a war? Oh sounds like you know a decision has been made,enlighten us, lets see, do you hate him because he is or isn't sending troops,the haters are split in the middle on that hate topic. | |
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