The liberals are taxing my patience. They're doing everything they can to make health care more expensive. Get the press to report on how expensive it is. Wait for the people to demand that government provide a solution. And then further consolodate power by taking control of the system.

What a shame, see your doctor get some nerve pills, in 2010 the senate elections will see more of the republicans losing their seats

You already have the worlds most expensive health care. Don't you think it's time to try something new?

Hey guys, how do you feel about a “sin” tax to help pay for healthcare?

I personally don’t have a problem paying a little more on soda and sugary things. Maybe it’ll help Americans to become a little healthier.

And, every time I see that damn commercial featuring the lady unloading groceries (in plastic bags by the way) and literally bitc*ing about a soda tax making it too expensive to feed her family, I want to throw something at my tv! Stop feeding your kids junk lady!! I know, I know, she's just an actress, but you know what? I never gave my kids soda and it saved me money at the dentist!

Also, I live in NJ and they are proposing a 25% tax hike on liquor, (not beer) to help with the large deficit here. I say if it makes people drink a little less because of the price, maybe drunk driving will be reduced also.....

IMO, it is never right to unfairly tax a/any particular group of people no matter how good the excuse may sound. Should Miss Not-So-Bright-Mum feed her kids soda?
That's irrelevant. Variable taxes suck. Forcing her to pay an increased amount of taxes because she may or may not make poor dietary choices is uncool.
Apply same principle to Joe Drunk.

Sin taxes are merely one groups idea of taxing a behavior that they deem offensive. As such, I find them entirely repugnant and unacceptable. America used to be about FREEDOM.

Anyone who feels they are not paying enough in taxes can feel free to donate it to the govt.

Conversely, anyone who feels they are paying too much in taxes can donate a lot more money to charity.

Anyone who feels they are not paying enough in taxes can feel free to donate it to the govt.

Sin taxes are merely one groups idea of taxing a behavior that they deem offensive. As such, I find them entirely repugnant and unacceptable. America used to be about FREEDOM.

Another bad side effect of socialism is that they want to CONTROL every ones behavior for "the common good" as they see it.

The hypocrisy of it all makes me ill.

Facts About Obesity in the United States
Fact: Obesity rates are soaring in the U.S.
• Between 1980 and 2000, obesity rates doubled among adults. About 60
million adults, or 30% of the adult population, are now obese.
• Similarly since 1980, overweight rates have doubled among children and
tripled among adolescents – increasing the number of years they are
exposed to the health risks of obesity.
Fact: Obesity is already having an adverse impact on young people
• Type 2 diabetes – once believed to affect only adults – is now being
diagnosed among young people.
• In some communities almost half of the pediatric diabetes cases are type 2,
when in the past the total was close to zero. Although childhood-onset
Type 2 diabetes is still a rare condition, overweight children with this
disease are at risk of suffering the serious complications of diabetes as
adults, such as kidney disease, blindness, and amputations.
• Sixty-one percent of overweight 5- to10-year-olds already have at least
one risk factor for heart disease, and 26% have two or more risk factors.
Fact: Most people still do not practice healthy behaviors that can prevent obesity
The primary behaviors causing the obesity epidemic are well known and
preventable: physical inactivity and unhealthy diet. Despite this knowledge:
• Only about 25% of U.S. adults eat the recommended five or more servings
of fruits and vegetables each day.
• Less than 25% of adolescents eat the recommended five or more servings
of fruits and vegetables each day.
• More than 50% of American adults do not get the recommended amount
of physical activity to provide health benefits.
• More than a third of young people in grades 9–12 do not regularly engage
in vigorous physical activity.
Fact: Obesity-related costs place a huge burden on the U.S. economy
Direct health costs attributable to obesity have been estimated at $52 billion in
1995 and $75 billion in 2003.
Among children and adolescents, annual hospital costs related to overweight and
obesity more than tripled over the past two decades – rising to $127 million
during 1997–1999 (in 2001 constant U.S. dollars), up from $35 million during
1979–1981.
Among adults in 1996, one study found that $31 billion of the treatment costs (in
year 2000 dollars) for cardiovascular disease – 17% of direct medical costs – were
related to overweight and obesity.

I call having double standards hypocrisy, People who make an effort to consume healthier foods have to pay higher insurance premiuns for those who want to consume junk food. Would you not label my paying for your bad dietary choices socialism?

True, but isn't advocating for UHC the same thing? I mean you expect people who are Healthy to pay for all of those who have preexisting medical conditions....

I call having double standards hypocrisy, People who make an effort to consume healthier foods have to pay higher insurance premiuns for those who want to consume junk food. Would you not label my paying for your bad dietary choices socialism? Any thing that acts as a detterant to the consumption of junk food is positive and will reduce illness and disease, the result will be a healthier society and smaller health insurance premiums.

Let's start with the basics.

Where in the Constitution does it say that the govt, has the right to manage health care?

Answer = Nowhere

End of discussion --- NEXT

Who died and left you king? The constitution was not eched in stone it is a constantly evolving document.

Let's start with the basics.

Where in the Constitution does it say that the govt, has the right to manage health care?

Answer = Nowhere

End of discussion --- NEXT

Very True Statement.
That is why many are wondering why Health Care Reform seems to be the Governmental take over of Health Care

I don't want to pay for your bad choices and since I have no control and want none over your dietary choices I am in favor of a tax that will help offset the cost of what I have to pay for your future medical costs

Allow me to introduce you to an old American concept. Everyone should pay for their own health care. That way, you will pay for the services you require without having to concern yourself in my private business.

Self reliant people don't need the nanny state to take care of them, they take care of themselves.

Self reliant people don't need the nanny state to take care of them, they take care of themselves

When the senate sends the health care reform bill to the president if he signs it

As far as the constitutional argument is concerned, are we now like the Amish, if it didn't exist in the 1700's we don't need it?

Of course the constitution doesn't mention health care, there wasn't any at that time! A few, very few doctors whose main treatment was bloodletting, not too effective.

the interstate highway system

Take care of yourselves or die trying?

Do you mean where the Democrats conspire to pass unconstitutional laws and refuse to represent the majority of their constituents who DO NOT WANT GOVT run health care?

Btw there is a good chance I am healthier than you are, so I wouldn't worry too much about me effecting your premiums. There is a good possibility I am subsidizing you.

As far as the constitutional argument is concerned, are we now like the Amish, if it didn't exist in the 1700's we don't need it?

The constitution allows for AMENDMENTS; I think that addresses your point.