| That's WHY It's Called Sex Appeal
Posted: 10/17/2009 11:13:55 AM | | Your point of view is a real shocker to me. I've been told many times how men are simple creatures whose only real goal is just to be with the woman... yet -- am I reading you wrong -- you seem to be saying that if the woman doesn't comform to your preconceived plan of how the relationship should go, you will decide you made a poor choice? send her back? and begin shopping for her replacement? | |
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| That's WHY It's Called Sex Appeal
Posted: 10/17/2009 12:36:27 PM |
.... she kept trying to take pictures of HER ass and I kept coming up in the picture....
And there I thought it was something wrong with my camera !!!
Or maybe a portrait. Do you think you might be able to find somebody to paint your ass?
I have a beret, edible body paint and some nice sable brushes. I'll paint her ass.
Ok you guys quite talking so sexy to me will you ??? You are getting my thong in a twist.
Oh Capitano ... have you ever had the wonderful opportunity of painting "buns of steel"? Errr just wondering is all 
Buns of steel ... smooth toungue. Now that is why it's called sex appeal. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2009 5:40:58 PM | I do enjoy your views Ms. Arabianangel...
At least one person on here did get to see my butt and tats on My Space and took the time to find them!!! | |
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| That's WHY It's Called Sex Appeal
Posted: 10/17/2009 6:33:49 PM |
And there I thought it was something wrong with my camera !!!
That's exactly what I thought about HER camera. No matter how many pics she took of her ass, there I was....
... do you think I should send a letter to Dear Abby posthumou(r)ously?
Ok you guys quite talking so sexy to me will you ??? You are getting my thong in a twist.
Oh Capitano ... have you ever had the wonderful opportunity of painting "buns of steel"? Errr just wondering is all
Buns of steel ... smooth toungue. Now that is why it's called sex appeal.
Not only am I a nice touch with a sable brush, I'm pretty damned good at undoing the Gordian Thong.
Buns of Steel? I'm an expert with those and perfer those as a canvas to any other.
Did I mention that I can part my eyebrows with my tongue?
Margo69:: At least one person on here did get to see my butt and tats on My Space and took the time to find them!!!
I'm a very busy lecher. I prefer that women who would like to show off their asses, just make it easier and send them directly to me.
It's WAY specialler that way....
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Posted: 10/17/2009 6:43:36 PM |
Strange for an Arab. They are quite conservative. She is open minded and westernized
Strange for a black man. They're normally far more intelligent. | |
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| That's WHY It's Called Sex Appeal
Posted: 10/17/2009 6:51:26 PM |
Oh Capitano ... have you ever had the wonderful opportunity of painting "buns of steel"? Errr just wondering is all
Buns of steel ... smooth toungue. Now that is why it's called sex appeal
There you go hitting on my man again. jeeze, not only do i have to learn how to cook, I also have to get myself a white bikini and some buns of steel from somewhere. Im givin up on the Capitano man. Even though his sense of humour exudes alot of sex appeal.
DBB is taken, like most of the good ones. Bald men are dang sexy.
verity is oh so smart. A whole lot of what he says just goes way over my head. There is just something sexually appealing about a smart man. Even if what he posts doesnt always make a whole lot of sense to me, then again, most men dont make a whole lot of sense anyway.
If i could take all three of these men and roll them into one, i would probably bang him on the first date. | |
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Posted: 10/17/2009 10:37:39 PM | [Oh stop with the goofy "REAL" men bullshit. That is such a ridiculous term.
Most men DO understand that time is needed to get a woman into bed or a relationship, but that doesn't mean he doesn't want to bang her the first time he sees her.
Are you the sort of woman who believes that most of her male "friends" wouldn't bang her if they had the opportunity? Just 'cause YOU see them as "just friends" doesn't mean they see you the same way. ]
I don't believe that the "real"man term is bs, at all, as a person of either gender who is "real" is upfront about what it is they are seeking. If you are not willing to pursue a relationship as opposed to a one night stand than say so! You are the one hinting at the fact that men are only after sex. Truth is, most men judgel harshly a woman who gives it up before dessert is served.
For the record, I don't have male friends, as I do realize that mostly, they simply want to bang me! | |
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| That's WHY It's Called Sex Appeal
Posted: 10/17/2009 11:02:51 PM |
Truth is, most men judgel harshly a woman who gives it up before dessert is served
Whose truth is that? Why do attitudes like this even see the light of day in 2009?
OP, that guy you describe doesn't seem to be blessed with common sense. If he truly values and respects this woman's need to give him blue balls, he should just whip out the black book after every date and get a booty call happening. | |
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| That's WHY It's Called Sex Appeal
Posted: 10/17/2009 11:43:44 PM | [Whose truth is that? Why do attitudes like this even see the light of day in 2009]
Have you read the forums much lately?  | |
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| That's WHY It's Called Sex Appeal
Posted: 10/18/2009 1:35:25 AM | Tito said, " Strange for an Arab. They are quite conservative. She is open minded and westernized "
Arabian Angel said, "Strange for a black man. They're normally far more intelligent. "
The first quote here isn't any more of what this thread is about, than the 2 nd one is.
I happen to like, and appreciate both the open mindedness, and intelligence that each of you have posted in this thread, as well as the open minded, and intelligent contributions of others.
Again, neither the mention of race in Tito's statement, nor in Arabian Angel's reply are what this thread are about. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2009 1:41:37 AM | In my last post, I stated....Again, neither the mention of race in Tito's statement, nor in Arabian Angel's reply are what this thread are about.
To correct myself, I was referring to what THIS thread only IS about : )
I won't speak for the purpose or intent of any thread other than those I have started. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2009 4:04:35 AM |
In my last post, I stated....Again, neither the mention of race in Tito's statement, nor in Arabian Angel's reply are what this thread are about.
I think we understood the first time. Not part of the thread not worth repeating...just saying.  | |
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| That's WHY It's Called Sex Appeal
Posted: 10/18/2009 7:16:45 AM | when I look for a date I am not looking for a friend , I am looking for a life long sexual relationship that includes companionship which is as it should be and both have to be done at the same time.
I do not believe in friends first and progressively building up to sex, the passion needs to be there from day 1 to the point where we can't keep our hands off each other and if it isn't we aren't right for each other. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2009 7:50:30 AM | Interesting points...
I guess I am a bit of a romantic... I love to be woed... I love to encourage the man I really like to woe me... Is THAT so wrong... ( I mean the fuzzy warm feeling one gets when the person that you KNOW you will most likely be intimate with does things that goes to THAT place that is seldom visited, you know that place that most of us close off after a while because we have been hurt and we JUST do not WANT to GO there anymore...)
If that entails a diner and a movie or any combination of all kinds of activities so be it.
As for the STD issue... This really takes away from the spontaneity of the intimate part. Sadly, I have met men in their fifties that actually believe if they have sex with women in their age group, they are safe... One of them actually BELIEVED that it was SAFE to have sex when a woman has her periods because he will not get any STD'S... NOT only do I not want to have sex during THAT time of the month, the belief is completely false...
Anyway... I digress...
It so difficult to date in these times.
I have an anecdote to share. I was meeting a gentleman to a place that I really like. This adorable dessert and coffee shop is right besides a strip bar. (A very upper classe strip bar)... We were seated in such a way that I was looking outside on the street and he was facing the inside of the restaurant. All the while that we chatted, I noticed these expensive cars, taking these young women to and fro. (I imagine to go have intercouse with men.) I felt for those women. Those young women could be my daughter's age. (If I had a daughter.) Here I am trying to date and I see this. Then I had the weirdest thought.
How many men in my age group resort to those services?... Most likely a lot. I bet you dollars to donuts that some of those men most likely are married and have daughters their ages... I wondered, how many of those people actually get tested for STD's.
These thoughts occurred during my date.... I just lost the, how can I say, the urge to date that day. I am thinking that this search of finding someone to love and be loved in return is just an illusion.
Just sharing random thoughts...
I find dating almost an impossible situation. Why deny the fact that if you are interested in someone and that person is interested in you, it is just logical that it is only a matter of time before sex occurs. I believe it is a GOOD thing. It is a NATURAL process. What I find sad is the manipulation and the deceit from both sides. (man and woman)... After all these years, I guess, I am still very very awkward at dating.
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Posted: 10/18/2009 8:46:06 AM | | Wow. As far as the strip club thing it seems to be where young America wants to hang out these days. I have been invited to go with my daughter, her husband, and their friends many times. While the single guys in the group throw around a lot of cash (and flirt) it is still a fun atmosphere. We shoot pool, I flirt with customers and drink my juice (I don't drink), the married girls get lap dances for themselves and their husbands, and everyone goes home after an entertaining night. Most of the dancers are single Moms that make more in one night than we do all week. I wouldn't like to see my girls on stage but that would be their choice. While some are prostitutes I find most just to be looking for an easy way to make a lot of cash money and support their children. We all have gotten to know a few of the strippers well and it's just easy money. They do not care about their reputations only providing a good life for their children. | |
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Posted: 10/18/2009 9:17:57 AM | Studien zufolge Millionen von Frauen haben in porn teilgenommen oder Strippen und Prostitution, um ihre Ausbildung zu bezahlen, jetzt ihre Ärzte, Rechtsanwälte + + +!
Sie sprechen Deutsch | |
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Posted: 10/18/2009 9:32:21 AM | Please note. I have nothing against the choices that women make with their bodies. I am not one to judge... It was just what happened when I was on a coffee date.
I guess, what I am trying to allude to are the layers of dating and sex. Some women use sex as barter, some do not.
I actually think that it does not matter. You can date until the cows come home and once you have sex, you KNOW that the relashionship has died. It happens.
You can have sex on the first date and continue dating once the awkward phase has passed. I am sure some of you can relate. You REALLY ENJOYED the sexual part and you REALLY want to get to know the person and after a few more outings you realize the the value system is not compatible.
Then, throw in the STD issue. I for one, ADMIT that I have taken chances and I have taken all the precautions as best as I can but one is never EVER 100% safe. EVER...
There IS no secret recipe.
I suppose we all choose paths where we can cope as well as we can in this four dimensional world.
PS: By the by, not only single men throw money on the women that work at the strip clubs. Many MARRIED men with high profile jobs throw a lot of cash around for a night of fun with a woman that will offer sexual gratification. I do see SEX APPEAL in that for some strange reason.
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Posted: 10/18/2009 10:47:21 AM | My view of women isn't doelike at all, it's more like they're aware of men but don't care as much as a lot of men would like to think.
Actually, it is. You portray women as being preyed upon and being coerced in dating.
Your apathetic attitude towards men and relationships is something that you constantly project in your posts. Men don't appear to be of much use or value to you, and that's fine, but your projections of women "being aware of men, but not caring as much as men would like to think" is bvll.
It's certainly not been my experience, ever. Every single one of my women friends can't go one conversation more than a few minutes long without at least mentioning how they'd like to meet a nice guy.
Maybe it's something in the water where you live...
Yes, it's that kind of mentality - the one where men think they are more exciting than a night at home, that I try and address. Truth be told, many men are worse than a night at home alone...which was my point. It's getting to the point where eating at home or eating out alone and paying for it is can actually be more productive.
Case in point.
That may be your "truth", and could be symptomatic of you.
I'm self employed, my time is valuable as well, but if you're telling me that it's hard to find someone to grab a bite with, that isn't better than the solitude of eating alone, I'm gonna take a different view of where the "problem" is.
I'd say you suffer from some type of depression.
If we're going down this road I have to address the masses of men who beg women to give them a chance despite knowing they aren't her cup of tea.
Begging? lol...
There you go again...
Men are just d y i n g to take women out, while women are trying to figure out which poor soul they'll grace with their presence...
Sure, some people think they must be on a date every weekend night, including men, half of which are also on these dates. I have a lot of male friends who think being at home on a weekend night is the end of the world - and would pay for anyone to sit across from them in some restaurant - so women aren't the only ones who do this. Some women date just to date. I still don't believe that a woman would sit and eat dinner with men they can barely stand to look at by choice as a priority.
You're over exaggerations are amusing.
I don't portray anything
Pffft.
I just like to let men know that paying for dinner isn't worthy of a nobel prize.
Neither is a woman's pvssy.
You might want to send out a memo, and level the playing field...
There are men here that think a lot of women do nothing but look for meals from strange men they don't like.
And there are a lot of women who will look at dinner and drinks with a (decent, but not "dreamy") guy as a better consolation, and remuneration for the time she spent getting to know him, than simply staying home alone.
There ARE women "players' out there. Your bias is constantly ignoring or tremendously downplaying their existence to virtually nil. There are no victims, only volunteers -
That's another topic.
You're building a strawman again.
My point is, stop trying to portray that there are no women that are guilty of being less than sincere.
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| That's WHY It's Called Sex Appeal
Posted: 10/18/2009 11:36:00 AM |
I don't believe that the "real"man term is bs, at all, as a person of either gender who is "real" is upfront about what it is they are seeking. If you are not willing to pursue a relationship as opposed to a one night stand than say so! You are the one hinting at the fact that men are only after sex. Truth is, most men judgel harshly a woman who gives it up before dessert is served.
If that is your definition of a REAL man, then I agree. Usually, it's some imaginary creature that women develop and believe in sometime about the time they discover the Cinderella/Prince Charming story.
You are the one hinting at the fact that men are only after sex.
I've never hinted at anything like this. If I believed it, I would state it. I never have, or ever will state this because I don't think it's the case at all.
Truth is, most men judgel harshly a woman who gives it up before dessert is served.
This is not true. Women are far more likely to judge other women harshly.
The only time I've ever heard a guy call a woman a slut is when she'll bang everyone but HIM....
For the record, I don't have male friends, as I do realize that mostly, they simply want to bang me!
Good for you.
Clearly, you are smarter than most of your sistahs who seem to love the delusion that their male 'friends' think like women when it comes to opposite sex 'friends'....
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Posted: 10/18/2009 12:02:36 PM |
Actually, it is. You portray women as being preyed upon and being coerced in dating.
Your apathetic attitude towards men and relationships is something that you constantly project in your posts. Men don't appear to be of much use or value to you, and that's fine, but your projections of women "being aware of men, but not caring as much as men would like to think" is bvll.
It's certainly not been my experience, ever. Every single one of my women friends can't go one conversation more than a few minutes long without at least mentioning how they'd like to meet a nice guy.
Maybe it's something in the water where you live...
Could be my circle of friends - and I tend to be a content single person, so I do project at times. Tho there are women I know who think finding a guy is a major priority, most of us are cool with life regardless of if we have a date or not. Most of us will only date if/when we meet a guy we like. Dating is incidental, not a mission. I've made no bones about the fact that I feel dating should be something to do only if it enhances an already happy single life - and some do make it out to be the thing they think will MAKE them happy.
Meeting a nice guy is common. Meeting a nice guy you want to know more about is a lot less common...
Case in point.
That may be your "truth", and could be symptomatic of you.
I'm self employed, my time is valuable as well, but if you're telling me that it's hard to find someone to grab a bite with, that isn't better than the solitude of eating alone, I'm gonna take a different view of where the "problem" is.
I'd say you suffer from some type of depression.
Verity it flatters me that you would read so deeply into a post and try to come up with a personal profile. I have no idea where you'd get depression from (and it's not as much of a different view as you think - it seems to be a default reaction to a lot of posts around here), unless you feel that a woman's general viewpoint of dating or men should have anything to do with her mental health. I don't get the connection, but some do feel that if a woman's not planning her whole life around finding an SO, there must be something wrong with her. I don't see is as much as I did 20 years ago, but there are still a few with that...um..."projection" I guess.
But people also tend to take my post to extremes and read things I didn't say into them. Grabbing a bite is just that - finding someone to grab a bite with suggests we can't eat without company. There are always people to go grab a bite with as an activity, but most of them I already know. There are times I meet new people I don't mind having a meal with...I like my meals though so I tend to want to know before I set one up if I can enjoy their company during one.
My main point was that to assume that many women will go out with a man they have no interest in as a friend or possible lover for months simply to eat without paying is not real likely. Most women aren't that hungry. That's all I meant.
Begging? lol...
There you go again...
Men are just d y i n g to take women out, while women are trying to figure out which poor soul they'll grace with their presence...
I'll tell you what I meant by that so as not to confuse you - again you saw something I didn't write. Let's stick to the actual syntax here. I'm saying men aren't totally victims. If there are a select few women who scout men for dinners out there, it's possible the men at those dinners aren't as innocent as you think. Men who don't want to be taken can easily avoid this - but probably don't as they may get less dates out of it. And IMO there are men who will try and talk a woman into going out who's less than enthusiastic - I've seen it myself. All I am saying is all that's part of the conversation.
Neither is a woman's pvssy.
You might want to send out a memo, and level the playing field...
I agree. In fact I think MALE or FEMALE many of us aren't as great as we think and need to drop the entitlement thing. Deserving and expecting and all that is bad for dating. Or sex....or most stuff in life. I don't need to send out a memo - men need to adjust the way they respond to it when they experience it.
And there are a lot of women who will look at dinner and drinks with a (decent, but not "dreamy") guy as a better consolation, and remuneration for the time she spent getting to know him, than simply staying home alone.
So you're sure these women aren't wondering if they should give a guy they sort of like a chance? You're positive all these women don't like these men at all, are just trying to get out of the house and skip grocery shopping for a day? Ok.
That's another topic.
You're building a strawman again.
My point is, stop trying to portray that there are no women that are guilty of being less than sincere.
You can't have an honest discussion if you eschew facts.
I've said many times that I think there are some people of BOTH SEXES (had to use caps, lest it be missed) that are evil and out for no good....so there's no way I'd say "NO" women are capable of any specific thing, nor so I think "ALL" (see? caps again) are out for no good. If I say "not as many as you think" and you see "none at all" that's not my problem honestly. Empty point if you aren't seeing what I actually said....so you can't have an honest discussion if you twist my side. | |
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