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 JWG86

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Posted: 10/30/2009 5:29:43 AM
if you were my son you would be drug free your entire life, like my 17 yr old is, fed on organic food, brought to the ocean and mountain 3 times a yr, placed in nature from birth and raised to give thanks to God and Jesus for every breath.. that would be your source from me... blessings

While, no doubt, your son and you seen to enjoy a good relationship, how do you really know that all of this stuff is good for him, physically?

Sure, I am a fan of organic food, but am unwilling to pay for it. Judging by your choice of religions, you probably don't eat meat (Correct me if I am wrong, but the level you have taken things to following the EGW message, it would suprise me if youd did.).

How do you measure how healthy you are? I measure my health by how often I get sick, my body fat composition, blood cholesterol levels, mental performance, and physical performance. Thus far, I have seen NO need to change a single thing about how I live, except to sleep better, which is related to my schooling, not my diet/lifestyle.

Another thing I would note is that you can eat all the veggie/organic/whatever that you want and still be in horrible shape. My last girlfriend is a perfect example of this. She was vegetarian (not vegan), and she was overweight to the point that she would come home in tears over it. Finally she informed me that she went to the Dr. and he had told her she was deficient in protein. She went and bought this nasty powder that I KNEW she would not use. So I took her back to the store, helped her select something that wouldn't taste like crap, and I began cooking all of her meals for her. She began losing about 5# a month and would have ended up near her healthy weight in half a year or so. However, she did not follow my advice to drink water. She just wouldn't do it. So what happens? Kidney-stone and UTI because of pyelonephritis secondary to urinary stasis and then secondary infection due to the removal of the kidney stone. All in all, she ended up with her parents blaming me/the balanced diet she was on for her condition (even though...surpise! Kidney stones are hereditary and then followed by lack of proper hydration (I told her that water was good...), and Mom happened to have them...and nephrology, when consulted, verified that diet was not the cause, but rather heredity and lack of water.). Anyways, that among other issues besides her neurotic family caused the break-up, and when I saw her a while back when I visited her church. Her vegetarian diet has NOT been kind to her. (obviously she went back to it as most people cling to what they know, and she had this almost cult-like closeness with her family where even though she made $65K a year she refused to move out because she was lost without them.).

My point is, just because someone eats veggies and "lives right"...doesn't mean they are healthy in the least. Just because I eat meat...does not mean I am not. At the peak of my meat-eating I would consume 1-3# of meat a day. After a year of this, my TOTAL cholesterol was 142. Total. My X gf is the only experience I have had with someone who is into this EGW/SDA religion as hardcore as yourself, and the experience was NOT positive. I mean, it looked good on the outside, but once you get into the inner-workings, it was a mess. While this religion does seem to identify the closest with the bible, from what I have seen, it also "goes the extra mile" and almost becomes a cult. If they could have left their precious sickly prophet out of it and just stuck to what was actually in the Bible, I would have a lot more respect for it. Then again, no religion/denomination is capable of that, because that would mean they had nothing "special" to differentiate them. If all of them just followed what was written, they would lose their precious little identities. So instead they worship on non-biblical days, or make a show of bein so dang pious about their saturday that they disgust everyone around them, or they eat everything, or they follow the health-message to the point of absurdity, or whatever. Religion is the human way of expressing extremism in a manner that others are reluctant to denounce, because most of them do it too and deep down they know it.

In the end, it helps to remember that every culture before you had a "god", and you have one too, and every person you meet worhships the "real" god. Even science says whatever god you worship is the real god. Religious people live 7 years longer, on average. Yeah? Well that has been proven to cover ANYONE who has a belief in a higher power. Not just SDA/Baptist/Catholics. EVERYONE. Apparently the blessings flow from the rocks and trees as well as the sky. Worhship whatever, and you get a free +7.

ETA:

How about this? Next year when Flu shots come out, I will be making 3-5K a month. It is not going to bother me to spend a little $ for the sake of knowledge. I will get a blood work-up before, and 2 days after, recieving a flu shot. We will see just how much mercury really is in that flu shot.

My thoughts are...about the same as eating a can of tuna, which I do quite often. http://www.thecitizen.com/archive/main/archive-050302/pt-05_mercury.html

All these people whining about it are the ones that are the citizens just DYING to find a conspiracy in their midst. They are chasing snowflakes while their house burns down. Completely irrational behavior and I refuse to be a part of or catalyst to it by not doing my research and not understanding that a can of tuna is just as "evil" as this horrid HORRID flu shot. It's time to put away the theories and face the facts.
 nexthyme

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Posted: 10/30/2009 6:22:09 AM
jwg86, you are an absolute riot, LOL...

As a healthy person who has a body weight, and is healthy, why would you feel the need to get a flu shot anyway, SINCE you are not in the category of people at risk for serious issues with flu?

You rant about education, and lack of it, but it seems odd that you would take a dose where someone who has a poor health status as you poor ex gf, would be more in need, at least according to the CDC then someone in your age group that is healthy...

As well, what the heck does tuna, which is used for its nutritional value have to do with getting a flu shot that hasn't been shown to really be all that effective?

Another thing, bashing your ex gf seems rather futile, and perhaps even a sign of unresolved issues of this issue, rather than having anything to do with the H1N1 flu shot...

YES, all humans should drink water, and it should be proportional to their weight, which if a person is over weight, that can be a lot of water... As well from someone who is genetically predisposed to kidney stones, yep water is very important to dilute calcium oxalate that form kidney stones...

With your GF in particular if she is/was a vegetarian, her diet could well have increased her problems with stones, because a portion of fruits and veggies have high levels of oxalate...

HOWEVER her health issues have nothing to do with how beneficial and or dangerous this vaccine is.. Perhaps you should snag a shot of this particular vaccine, get your blood work before and after, and ingest a can or two of tuna to see if there is a raise in your mercury levels...

Do remember though there are other environmental factors that can affect you levels, so it doesn't seem like your reading will be as accurate as seem to think.

Point here is this, if a person is not in the high risk group for having serious affects from catching the flu, then I see no reason to insult anyone for making an informed choice NOT to get the flu shot...

Some of us are highly chemical sensitive, so what is no big deal for one person, can very well be deadly to another person... Life is all about choices, and weighing the risks... Personally since I had a very rare server angioedema reaction to an ace inhibitor blood pressure medicine, I had been taking for over 5 yrs, I am not all the eager to see what other toxins my body will take, or not...

Thanks, no irrational thoughts about the little bit of tuna I eat, thus I am not chasing snow flakes... Weird how someone wants to change the subject to their ex gf, and tuna, verses the issue of the H1N2 flu shot...
 JWG86

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Posted: 10/30/2009 6:28:29 AM
I used my X gf as a case-study to show that vegetarianism was not a catch-all "perfect lifestyle". Further, she is of the same religion, the values of which another poster is pushing, and so I found her a very valuable example. If you note, the post I quoted involves a lot more than health, so I went into a lot more than just physical health as well. I have indeed forgiven her for what she did to cause the relationship to end, and while you may think I listed it, you would be wrong. Nor will I. It was epic beyond belief and I will not get into it, because I am NOT going there. Because that issue IS resolved, and indeed I have forgiven her and left it alone.

Now...back to the Flu vaccine and why I got one...

...It was free. I sat in a room injecting people for 4 hours. We had tonnes of vaccines left over by the time the vaccinations were over AND people stopped arriving late. I am required ( well, HEAVILY encouraged) to get one as I am around sick people all the time.

Why NOT?

I am much less advocating the flu shot than I am advocating the WHY NOT? of a flu shot. If you don't want one, more power to you, but don't go around telling everyone else your arm will rot off and you will have retarded children if you get one.

*My "poor" X gf got a flu shot for free this year as well, FYI.


As well, what the heck does tuna, which is used for its nutritional value have to do with getting a flu shot that hasn't been shown to really be all that effective?


Okay...
First you have to understand, the Flu shot is a "guess" about what strains are going to hit. If may have NO effectiveness if the guess is off. If there is a match though, it is 70-90% effective, roughly. My point is...why not? Tuna contains the same amount of mercury in 1 can, yet I still eat it. Why not?
 nexthyme

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Posted: 10/30/2009 7:01:14 AM
I don't know what you do, I am guessing some sort of medical profession, nurse, PA, med tech?

No matter, tuna, and a large portion of other fish have high levels of mercury now days because man kind don't have the brains to realize they are polluting the food source. There is little doubt there is some naturally occurring toxins, but man kind seems to think if they dump crap in the waters, then it will disappear...

As for a childs arm falling off, what???

There is substantial evidence to suggest vaccines do cause or contribute to Autism...

When I was a radiographer I was around a LOT of sick people, and didn't get the flu shot except once, I got sick as hell 106 fever, took two weeks to get over... Not something I'd want to go through again...

NOW I am not saying that it is because of the shot, but what the heck was the point of adding to my system toxins, when it was a hit and miss as to whether they'd get the right strain.

You eat tuna, some can claim to be mercury free, I don't know how true that is, but if I had a choice between knowingly adding more mercury to my system and not, I would choose not... but then again I am middle aged, and got the dreaded fibromyalgia for the past 20 yrs, so I am not all that hip on seeing how much more compromised I can make my system.

You are young, personally I would have to do research to see if mercury is an accumulative heavy metal, as a young person and if it is, I would wonder why you wouldn't want to keep your heavy metal level low...

Just saying, I lived a healthy life style, not vegetarian, but no drugs, little to no alcohol, et al, and I still got fibromyalgia... Life happens... and no there is no guarantee how well a persons health will be later in life...
 JWG86

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Posted: 10/30/2009 7:10:25 AM
^ You summed it up, life happens. If, once a year, I put the equivalent of 1 tuna-can's worth of mercury in my system from a vaccine, and THAT is the worst that occurs over a year, then I am doing pretty darn good, aren't I? Lets stop counting snow-flakes and get on with life. People who whine about the OPTION the Flu Shot presents are either living a PERFECT life, or just don't have any sense of priority.
 Wiyan

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Posted: 10/30/2009 8:49:14 AM
actually Nextthyme, Vitamin D synthesis happens when sunlight enters through the eyes, which is why they say one needs at least 15 minutes a day in the sunlight with no glasses on, and in case anyone out there is thinking to open your eyes in a tanning bed in the winter, DONT DO THAT!-it would be bad for your eyes! I definitely feel better with vitamin D, don't you? Fortunately,as you say, I think there is now loads of info out there about what we should do to prevent getting the flu
 Wiyan

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Posted: 10/30/2009 8:56:43 AM
JWG-the can of tuna theory is bogus, tho I know you may well have gotten it from your tv-seen it used there myself. The reason it's bogus is that Mercury Thimerosal, when INJECTED crosses the bloodbrain barrier, becoming ethylmercury, and is neurotoxic. Mercury ingested in seafood, is processed by your lived and is able to be expelled more efficiently from the body. If you would like to research this issue, a good book about it is 'The Sanctity of Human Blood' by Dr TimO'shea. You can also check out research by Dr Byron Hyde. There are other toos, that's just off the top of my head as I run out to work here.
 JWG86

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Posted: 10/30/2009 10:44:12 AM
Wiyan, mercury in the bloodstream is mercury in the bloodstream. Mercury from fish can tripple normal mercury levels in the blood after just one meal based on blood-tests one author did for a fitness magazine. We are counting snow flakes here...
 Wiyan

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Posted: 10/30/2009 11:01:16 AM
"Mercury in Medicine Report": US House Committee on Governament Reform May 20,2003:

"Thimerosal used as a preservative in vaccines is likely related to the autism epidemic. ..This epidemic in all probability may have been prevented or curtailed has the FDA not been asleep at the switch regarding the lack of safety data regarding injected thimerosal and the sharp rise of infant exposure to this known neurotoxin"

continues " The FDA and the CDC failed in their duty to be vigilant as new vaccines containing thimerosal were approved and added to the immunization schedule...At the same time that the incidence of autism was growing, the number of childhood vaccines containing thimerosal was growing, increasing the amount of ethylmercury to which infants were exposed threefold"

This report is part of the United States Congressional record-look it up for yourself.
 jazmella

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Posted: 10/30/2009 11:19:31 AM
I don't trust vaccines/shots whatsoever. Unless they make it mandatory for every living being on the face of the Earth to receive these vaccines or face fines/jail time (which is coming, by the way), it's a definite no-go for me.
 Ideoform

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Posted: 10/30/2009 1:21:39 PM
Here is some more information about vitamin D:

If you choose to use vitamin D supplements the natural form of vitamin D3 works better than the prescription form D2.
Your body must convert it to a more active form. Vitamin D3 is converted 500 percent faster than vitamin D2.
Vitamin D2 has a shorter shelf life, and its metabolites bind with protein poorly.

Based on the most recent research, the current recommendation is 35 IU’s of vitamin D per pound of body weight.

So for a child weighing 40 pounds, the recommended average dose would be 1,400 IU’s daily, and for a 170-pound adult, the dose would be nearly 6,000 IU’s.

However, it’s important to realize that vitamin D requirements are highly individual, as your vitamin D status is dependent on numerous factors, such as the color of your skin, your location, and how much sunshine you’re exposed to on a regular basis.

Under summer conditions it is frequently possible to generate about 20,000 units of vitamin D by exposing your skin to the sun, depending on how light or dark your skin is. (Lighter skinned people need less sun exposure.)

Currently, the U.S. RDA for vitamin D is 400 IU (international units) for the majority of the population. (IU is frequently shortened to just “units.”) This dose was recommended to prevent rickets, which works well, but does nothing to give the far more important protection from cancer, heart disease and infections.

To achieve the healthy blood levels, most adults will need about 5,000 IU’s a day.

About 10 percent or more people need significantly more than 5,000 units. Doctors have seen people requiring over 30,000 units of vitamin D a day to reach therapeutic levels of 25 hydroxy D in their blood.

The only way to know for sure is to get your blood level tested.

With regard to pregnancy and infants:
Times Online reports there is powerful new evidence supporting the claim that sufficient vitamin D levels can reduce your risk of having a premature delivery. It can also help protect your newborn baby from other health problems.

In a scientific trial that meets the most stringent criteria for “evidence-based inquiry,” US researchers Drs. Hollis and Wagner divulged their findings at a recent international vitamin D research conference in Brugge, Belgium.

* Mothers who took 4,000 IU’s (ten times the RDA of 400 IU) of vitamin D during pregnancy had their risk of premature birth reduced by half
* Premature babies born to women taking high doses of vitamin D were reduced by half at both 32 and 37 weeks, and
* There were also fewer babies who were born “small for dates”
* Women taking high doses of vitamin D had a 25 per cent reduction in infections, particularly respiratory infections such as colds and flu as well as fewer infections of the vagina and the gums
* The “core morbidities of pregnancy” were reduced by 30 per cent in the women who took the high-dose vitamin D. (Including diabetes, high blood pressure, and pre-eclampsia – a potentially deadly increase in blood pressure and fluid)
* Babies getting the highest amounts of vitamin D after birth had fewer colds and less eczema

Another 2009 study on vitamin D deficiency in newborns with acute lower respiratory infection confirmed a strong, positive correlation between newborns' and mothers' vitamin D levels.

That study found that over 87 percent of all newborns and over 67 percent of all mothers had vitamin D levels lower than 20 ng/ml, which is a severe deficiency state. As a result, the researchers recommended that all mothers optimize their vitamin D levels during pregnancy, especially in the winter months, to safeguard their babies' health.

In addition, numerous other studies have found that vitamin D may protect against a number of birth defects.

Dr. Bruce Hollis of the Medical University of South Carolina said:

“I’m telling every pregnant mother I see to take 4,000 IUs and every nursing mother to take 6,400 IUs of vitamin D a day.

I think it is medical malpractice for obstetricians not to know what the vitamin D level of their patients is. This study will put them on notice.”

Along with Dr. Carol Wagner, they have researched vitamin D’s impact on pregnancy outcomes for a number of years. In 2006 they published a study in the journal CMAJ, “Nutritional vitamin D status during pregnancy: reasons for concern, “ and in a 2007 study they discovered that that vitamin D deficiency is quite common in pregnancy.

Naturally, pregnancy is not the only time you need to be mindful of your vitamin D status. Most people, including children, adolescents and seniors, are in fact deficient.

Getting your vitamin D from the sun (or a safe tanning bed) is the absolute best way to optimize your vitamin D level.
 Baked.Sushi

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Posted: 10/30/2009 3:34:45 PM

I am much less advocating the flu shot than I am advocating the WHY NOT? of a flu shot.


Why Not?? wow ..

1. It has NOT been Sufficiently tested to (a) Actually Work against H1N1 // (b) Time - NO ONE has Any idea what Future repercussions (health) there may be for those who have allowed themselves to be the Test Subjects for this vaccine.
2. Mercury levels are Proven to be UNSAFE.
3. Autism - More and More we are learning how vaccines have caused ever increasing incidents of Autism in our children.
4. Because it is JUST the flu. MOST "relatively" healthy people (even those who Do get it) don't suffer 'that much' and the Vast Majority not only get over the flu (H1N1) = but as a result of Not getting the vaccine Our immune systems are allowed to actually Improve and become stronger.
5. Vaccines may not 'weaken' your immune system but they do Prevent it from 'evolving' and getting better. and
6. The vaccine is an unknown, unproven agent .. I would rather puke for a few days than lose my ability to walk or speak for the rest of my life > It Has happened.

.. just for a Few of the reasons I'm NOT getting poison injected, sniffed or otherwise.

Why Not get the vaccine?? My question is Why get the vaccine? So far of those I've spoken to who feel they should - the Number One reason is Fear .. not information or Facts - Fear.

I personally feel (and strongly at that) that Fear is a really dangerous motivator.
 Ideoform

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Posted: 10/30/2009 5:03:17 PM
Vaccines can cause seizures.
Moderate Problems
* Seizure (jerking or staring) (about 1 child out of 14,000)
* Non-stop crying, for 3 hours or more (up to about 1 child out of 1,000)
* High fever, 105 degrees Fahrenheit or higher (about 1 child out of 16,000)

Severe Problems
Serious allergic reaction. Several other severe problems have been reported after vaccinations. These include:

* Long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness
* Permanent brain damage.

People may develop Guillain-Barré syndrome in the days or weeks following receiving a vaccination.

Guillain-Barré syndrome (GBS) is a disease in which the body damages its own nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis. Stimulation of the body’s immune system may play a role in its development. People can also develop it after having the flu or other infections such as cytomegalovirus, Epstein Barr virus, and infection with the bacterium Campylobacter jejuni.

In 1976, there was a risk of GBS following influenza (swine flu) vaccination. Two studies showed that vaccinated people may be at an increased risk for GBS associated with the seasonal influenza vaccine.

This is a part of informed consent when physicians give vaccinations.
 Ideoform

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Posted: 10/30/2009 5:47:41 PM
In case anybody doesn't already know about the problem with giving aspirin to children under age 19:

Aspirin:
(also known on some medicine labels as acetylsalicylate, salicylate, acetylsalicylic acid, ASA or salicylic acid)

When NOT to give aspirin:
When a young child has pain associated with a virus or a fever, or is sick with the flu. Aspirin can cause a serious side-effect that leaves them with lasting serious brain damage. Use another type of pain-reliever or fever-reducer instead. This includes when a child gets a fever after having a vaccination.

Reye's syndrome is a potentially fatal disease occuring mainly in children and teenagers. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the U.S. Surgeon General, the American Academy of Pediatrics and the Food and Drug Administration recommend that aspirin and combination products containing aspirin not be given to children under 19 years of age during episodes of fever-causing illnesses.
 monalee1

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Posted: 10/30/2009 6:45:04 PM
JW... you are just a 20 something yr old young man, I am 48... do you think that you will be as healthy at 48 if you continue in your current habits... at least I know that I have been healthy with my habits for over 27 yrs... my teen for 17... 17 yrs of flu shots can add a lot of toxins to your cells and at 40 you may not be able to deal with them like you can at 20 something... when we were young like you we all thought like you but we grew up, now we can not help but share our wisdom.... blessings
 Ideoform

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Posted: 10/30/2009 9:14:53 PM
Dr. Ronald Whitmont, M.D. reports in a recent article of The Epoch Times:

"So far, H1N1 is much less severe than the regular flu.
The calculated mortality rate for H1N1 in 2009 is only 0.5 percent.

In 2006, the death rate for influenza was 0.77 percent, and in 2005 it was 0.79 percent.

CDC and the pharmaceutical industries claim credit for this reduction in death rate,
but statistical analysis shows that this trend predated the introduction of the vaccine and is not correlated with either vaccine or antiviral medication use."
 nexthyme

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Posted: 10/30/2009 9:28:10 PM
Thanks Wiyan on the info of D synthesis through the eyes... I had the MISimpression it was absorb through the skin...

As for what I mean about living here, IS the lacking sun...However I stay because I love the temperate weather and the amazing beauty despite all the rain...

Yes, there is a LOT of info, some is crap medicine, and some is really valid, it just takes researching what is going on...

Further more thank you for clearing the misconception of mercury in fish, and that in these shots... I do know it isn't good to add more heavy metals to the body than needed, but still it is important to know that there is just a LOT of bs to scare people...

Remember when eggs were the totally dreaded cause of cholesterol, and to be avoided at all cost?

Spinach, terrible danger, vitamin E good, now vitamin E really bad... Vitamin E, oh hell we don't know...

Honey is really a great antiviral... as is taking L lysin, garlic et al to boost the immune system, and a few other great natural supplements . OF COURSE these too need to be treated as any other type of drug, especially since they can also cause serious reactions...
 Ideoform

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Posted: 10/30/2009 9:46:05 PM
Vitamin D is produced in the skin when the skin interacts with ultraviolet light.

The amount of sunlight entering the eyes affects the pineal gland, which in turn, helps the human body set its internal clock.

This is called the circadian rhythm which is measured by the melatonin secretion of the pineal gland.

To get vitamin D from sunlight, you will need to have exposed skin.
 nexthyme

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Posted: 10/30/2009 9:51:49 PM
OK, thanks Ideoform, I have the theory that perhaps people are more likely to be deficient because of the heavy sunscreen they push.

There is an increase in skin cancer, and more use of these may be the reason cancers have risen... I don't know, I am just thinking out loud here..
 Baked.Sushi

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Posted: 10/31/2009 6:38:32 AM
So agree with nexthyme on that sunscreen theory!! I NEVER use chemicals on my skin - no sunscreen, no pesticides .. if I use Anything it is a mild, scent free moisturizer .. I Do notice a difference if I don't get out in the fresh air And sunshine and believe firmly that it has to do with the Pineal gland/circadian rythm - sleep patterns as well as the Vitamin D that is created by ultraviolet rays reacting to my endocrin system - under the skin ..

I make a point of getting out at least once a day for at least a half hour .. usually it's lots more. When the weather is against me .. and I just can't get out - I up my Vitamin D3 intake .. seems to be workin for me!

Would like to thank ideoform for the great information and for presenting it in a way that is easy to read and understand~ Thanks!
 JWG86

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Posted: 10/31/2009 8:34:58 AM
JW... you are just a 20 something yr old young man, I am 48... do you think that you will be as healthy at 48 if you continue in your current habits... at least I know that I have been healthy with my habits for over 27 yrs... my teen for 17... 17 yrs of flu shots can add a lot of toxins to your cells and at 40 you may not be able to deal with them like you can at 20 something... when we were young like you we all thought like you but we grew up, now we can not help but share our wisdom.... blessings


Very good point you make there. Since I am not 48, I cannot answer you with any certainty except to point out my genetics. Noone in my family that I am aware of has ever died before age 75 of natural causes (immediate genetic family). They all eat and behave about like I do (or worse) with reguards to health.

My father eats much worse than I do, yet he is 54, works 12 hour days doing manual labor, has great lab results every time they draw blood, and is very sharp. He played with cups full of mercury as a kid and has a few amalgam fillings as well. No effect noted. My grandpa lived to be in his 80's and he too had plenty of contact with mercury, as well as a lot of physical problems caused by daily living (ditch-witch accident, etc.). He was sharp up until the end, and he was building cars/dropping in engines well into his 80's, right in the driveway.

The only people who are related to me who have had problems are overweight because of grossly mis-managed diets and little to no excercise. My mother is a prime example. Before she and my father divorced (when she was in her mid/last 30's IIRC), she was 5'7 and 145#. She was 130# when they married, before having me, IIRC. Still, mid/late 30's and 145# and 5'7 is AWESOME! imho. Anyways, she was very healthy. Now she has tonnes of problems ranging from diabetes to HTN, all caused by crap diet that my stepfather encouraged and the very little excercise she got.

So basically, noone in my family has died before 75 (I can't remember one passing away before 80, but 75 is a safe claim?), noone in my family has weight problems unless they horridly neglect themselves, and noone in my family has any other issue that I can think of. So, I can cite my genetics and tell you how they responded when treated how I am treating them.
 _Luv2Ski_

Joined: 10/22/2009
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Flue shots are more dangerous than the flu itself!
Posted: 10/31/2009 8:48:03 PM
I got it! It's no big deal.

But now I need a new paranoid frenzy government conspiracy to fret about so I don't feel left out.......any ideas?
 JWG86

Joined: 7/5/2008
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Flue shots are more dangerous than the flu itself!
Posted: 10/31/2009 8:51:07 PM
Flouride in the water is always a warm topic!
 Baked.Sushi

Joined: 7/30/2008
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Flu shots are more dangerous than the flu itself!
Posted: 11/1/2009 10:49:15 AM

Flue shots are more dangerous than the flu itself!


ok .. first - it's "Flu"

This Just in: Fear more dangerous than flu shots Or flue shots Or the flu itself!

Q: How do you control a whole population?
A: Keep 'em scared.

Q: How do you get away with nasty business?
A: Distract those who would try to stop it.

Q: How do you keep 'em scared and distracted?
A: oink oink oink

Why aren't we hearing anything about the Military being made to get innoculated? IF this vaccine is so g.d. important - Why isn't it a priority for those who are mandated to Protect Us to get the vaccine? Is it ok if the pandemic wipes out our defense?

Dontcha think it's kinda odd that our troops aren't being "protected"?? >> Kinda adds to my thinking that this vaccine isn't as 'safe' as they'd like us to think.

Dontcha Think!?
 Wiyan

Joined: 12/8/2008
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Flu shots are more dangerous than the flu itself!
Posted: 11/2/2009 10:31:12 PM
Wow sushi-if that's true, your military is treated better than our guinea pigs in uniform who have been experimented on more than once-and as Military, they have NO right of refusal down here-brig time-that's what they get here, not choice
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