| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 10/24/2009 1:05:22 PM | Hey Personally I think a education is good if and when a educated person can be employed in the area of studies of interest - even if its a techinical degree or a PHD -
Many people aren't book worms to pursue a formal education- yet make good money in a technical trade field - many are self taught- Although I believe in some form of education I also feel "ON THE JOB" be it formal or self training with experiences bring forth the best in a person if they willing to wait and apply and give time to their field of interest!! Examples are- a plumber -electrician - and other techinical fields.
I have seen many -many person both male and female over educated - under employed outside of their desired fields of study -- just to have a JOB!
I have experienced the following- A--- Associate degree opens the door with back bone work BS -Degree opens the door with less backbone work MS- degree offers you a chance of working with your brain PHD/MD - degrees are specialized fields degree- that offers one knowledge to preform needed services --
In conclusion a person that gives a honest days work regardless of the degree of education - that pays one bills is to be admired and respected!! Sometimes education is a trade off - !! Like the Plumber needs the DR services --and vice versa -both are knowlegeable in their own field- each needs each other-??----Who is the best here??
IT's THE PERSON THAT COUNTS--- FROM HIS OR HER HEART!! | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 10/24/2009 2:52:33 PM |
I know a person who goes on and on about how she is getting a masters degree, and will automatically make big bucks (false) because of it. Would you like me to talk t this woman so I can disabuse her of her misconceptions? When I had only a bachelor's degree, I was saving money at an incredible rate. Now that I have a master's degree, I'm going to be paying off all the debt I accumulated in school for many more years. I still make a little bit less now than I did when I had only a bachelor's degree.
But what's important is that I love what I do and getting the master's degree opened the door for me to pursue what was really important to me in life. I'll never be rich, but I'm very happy. | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 10/26/2009 8:31:12 AM | The questions seems to be, not whether or not the person who doesn't believe in education is happy (or could be happy) doing their job but rather, whether or not you would be happy dating them.
All other things being equal, my preference is that she have at least a four-year degree from a reputable school. | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 11/6/2009 9:34:09 AM | If it makes him happy, not to improve his self thru education. that is his decision and if I am his friend,I will be happy for him.
I don't control him,maybe on the long run he may change his mind to learned some good skills that is not hazardous job...
If I am a doctor,lawyer, professor,etc.... I will not date him, for we are NOTon the same league of personality,mentality, and status.
But if I am on the same grain of background,education ,BLUE COLLAR job, I will date him even marry him... As the saying goes " Bird with the same feathers flock together ".
This remind me of Elizabeth Taylor once married a poor hunk construction worker, after the novelty weared off,it was a hell for both of them.. | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 11/6/2009 12:44:05 PM | Hard to say, maybe he can make millions, but education is usually a much safer bet. When people talk the talk I usually don't believe them until I see results. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics(government agency) for instance in 2008:
Doctoral Degree had median earnings of $1,555 a week with 2% unemployment. Professional Degree had median earnings of $1,522 a week with 1.7% unemployment. Master's Degree had median earnings of $1,228 a week with 2.4% unemployment. Bachelor's Degree had median earnings of $978 a week with 2.8% unemployment. Associate Degree had median earnings of $736 a week with 3.7% unemployment. Some college, no degree had median earnings of $645 a week with 5.1% unemployment. High school graduate had median earnings of $591 a week with 5.7% unemployment. Less than high school had median earnings of $426 a week with 9% unemployment.
Money isn't everything but you can choose a field you like, get a good education, and make a lot of money too. You also have to consider in many ways these higher educated and paid jobs are often cushier too. Better benefits, more flexible hours, more vacation and generally more respect as well. Getting a good education is a lot of work but I think it really pays off over the course of a life time. | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 11/6/2009 12:53:25 PM | | While I believe in high education, it really is not the only way to be successful. I have friends with Masters, Bachelors one even with 2 Masters and all of them make less money than I do. (Only college diploma). So while people brag about their education, there are people out there with less than high school diploma, doing very well for themselves. A friend of mine has just high school diploma and he is racking in $200K+ a year selling investments and insurance. | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 11/6/2009 12:58:07 PM | | I don't think a degree is necessary to have a good income/job/career - intelligence is important, ambition is important, and neither of those come from books (I said "intelligence" NOT knowledge). As long as someone has a trade or skill, and is employable - what difference does schooling make? | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 11/9/2009 4:54:32 PM | jet_99 wrote: what you think of dating a guy with just grade 12 window washer in skyrises and says he can make it rich by owning his own company, and doesn't believe in education or going back to school for a college or any schoolling. before that he was doing hazarous materials a lot of demo aspestos, black mold, uranium and lead plus we did emergency response cleaning up after oil spills he says he has had a lot of friends who went to college/univ and couldn;t find work related to their field. so he doesn't believe in schooling and won't go. he thinks he can do it and is content with his job and thinks he can make millions and millions just asking would you date a guy like this seriously?
Are there people with college or university degrees who cannot find a job in the field they majored in? Yes. It's why Stanford University is encouraging students to be liberal arts majors so they get a well rounded educational experience. For me it's about being with someone who shares interests and understands the other persons profession?
And Bill Gates has two years at Harvard so it's not like he isn't educated. Lord knows Lakeside where he went to high school is more akin to college and not an average high school. Education is so important to me that I am taking classes at university, to finish my degree.
Read message #37 as she has some good insight.
~Beth~ | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 11/10/2009 1:17:14 AM | | I think this topic got a little stretched. But if money and materialistic things are at the root of a relationship, then count me out. Give me a simple life, with with less things, I'm in. ...I think it going to make me live happier and longer. (And also having someone to share it with..jiji) | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 11/10/2009 6:11:56 AM | | "...would you date a guy like this seriously?" If the guy is a nice enough person and there is mutual attraction, sure I'd date him. Post-secondary education wouldn't be a deciding factor for me. There are plenty of ambitious, intelligent people who don't have a college diploma or a university degree. | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 11/10/2009 6:47:16 AM | As many have stated, you don't need a degree to be successful in business. I am a high school dropout that has been earning over 6 figures a year for many years.
For the OP's specific case though I would look at the fact that he is 31 and is still just talking about becoming successful is more of a sign to the possible future. By 31 you should at the very least have a business plan in place and be working toward achieving that goal. It sounds like he is just an employee talking about achieving grand things. Talk is cheap. | |
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| would you date a guy who doesn't believe in education-content with his job Posted: 11/10/2009 9:15:12 AM | I work for a (not directly) guy who has no college education, can't speak English well but makes well over seven figures a year. Also employs many college grats (like myself)... I want to be like him when I grow up....
oh also, the richest and smartest man I've ever had the pleasure to shake hand with was also a high school drop out... *sigh* | |
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