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Posted: 10/20/2009 10:22:41 AM | ....I am not depressed ....what I feel is more of an emptiness of purpose....locked in this tedious routine OP, you are only 20. I remember having feelings like that when I was young. I'm going to be 58 in a few weeks, and you know what, life is not perfect, but it has never been better. You know why? Because I have a sense of purpose.....I am not locked in a tedious routine. I had a pretty bad day today, actually. Some of it really awful. But, I know it will pass. I have crappy days sometimes, but overall, in balance, life is more often good than not. You are young and have plenty of time to find something to do with yourself that takes away that feeling of emptiness of purpose. There are a lot of awful things in this world. And if you lived in a 3rd world country or some horrible dictatorship where you were truly trapped by circumstances, there would be much more to surmount. But you actually can change your life and find something wonderful to do with it. You actually can get out and around and see some of the beauty and magnificance in this world. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 11:49:57 AM |
Anyway, what I feel is more of an emptiness of purpose, rather then self. I am locked in this tedious routine -- I get up, ride my bike to work, and spend my days thinking of what is possible in the human realm while blah blah blah...........
A man with a life is too busy to be worried about things he cannot change.
You're "locked" in that routine because you make no effort to break it. In other words, stop navel gazing and aspire to something higher than flipping burgers, Nietzche. Go put all that intelligence to use doing something productive rather than defeatist and melancholy. You're clearly not a dumb guy. But you're wasting your gift. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 1:23:59 PM | I apologise if I sounded flippant OP.
Judging from what I read here you probably are a rather serious young bloke with a higher than average IQ who is, - (for the moment at least), - stuck in a fairly mindless occupation which by it's nature tires the body, but leaves the mind free to dissect itself.
Speaking as one who is neither bright, well educated, or even sane, I can only offer my limited "Bogan" insights.
Even if you are young and don't have much of an education you can still earn bloody good wages if you are prepared to do jobs that other people won't touch.
By that I mean unskilled and semi-skilled jobs that are so inherently mucky, hard, obnoxious and/or dangerous or any combination of those things that employers just about have to bribe you to do them.
Go looking for those jobs.
Don't think of them as being mentally and morally demeaning, because they are honest jobs and there is nothing degrading about doing honest work.
Flipping burgers is honest work, but it is seldom the "career choice" of the artistic, the adventurous, or the ambitious young person, so you are only trapped flipping burgers as long as you choose to go on flipping burgers.
The jobs I mention are not "nice", - (I did plenty of them), - but they do pay well and if there is an intellectual or an artist gesticulating within your mind, then these are work experiences which will give you insight and inspiration aplenty for future work.
Peace! | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 1:27:48 PM | OP, you aren't listening, you don't want to listen, you want to bytch and be listened to while you wail about your rotten life. Get up, get help or whine, it's all in your hands, you have a choice, stop blaming the world and others (not everyone gets upset if you screw up their order, you are so into exaggerations, please) you like the sound of your own whine. 
I've often wondered what the hell life is for if all you do is get through school then have to get through a job day after day just to pay bills you wouldn't have if life were more fair & fun. Then I laugh at it all because I know when I'm hosting a big ole pity party and guess what, life is what it is. If you don't like yours, move, change jobs, marry an heiress, become a gigolo, win the lottery, or become a monk. Or call a Whaaaabulance. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 2:01:26 PM | daynadaze
That was harsh, have you ever felt down and needed some one to talk to? He has already mentioned that he doesn't feel close to any one near him and some times people need some one to talk to.
That's why I love these forums. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 2:24:07 PM | | Op...being depressed about thye condition of the world involves certain emotions...one of them is arrogance,sorry but it is...God,if you beleive in him did not send you here to save the world,it is not your job,it is not any one person's job...all you can do is open your eyes and see the needs around you and try to meet those needs and make a difference.... and in the process you will find that by giving of yourself you will in return receive purpose and yes even happiness...what you are doing now is a vicous circle of inertia and blame....you do nothing,blame yourself and get depressed over doing nothing which leads to doing nothing and more blame...find somebody and help them,as simple as it sounds it will work. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 2:34:19 PM | | Join a church and join the military. You'll have lots of new friends. You'll make good money. And you'll have a double sense of purpose while you join those trying to make the world a better place. Now get on your feet soldier and march. Hooah. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 3:24:35 PM | | Church or .mil are the last place I would look for friends. I don't have any great advice for the OP, except that really. DON'T do that, lol. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 3:46:40 PM | I'm not religious enough to hype up any church OP, but I do agree with IndySarge that by joining your country's Armed Forces you would be serving a much greater good than you are now.
If you do follow that path, then shoot for the bloody moon!
Don't just aspire to be "good."
STRIVE FOR BEST!!
Even if you CAN'T make the grade for your country's Special Forces, just putting yourself through that selection mill once, or even twice, will speak speak volumes in your favour both professionally and personally.
Can't serve in the military due to medical unsuitability?
Or religious/moral inhibition?
If service to your fellow humans is what you think would suit your temprement, then there are many alternative areas within your nations civilian public service or in the field of humanitarian aid that could provide you with a mentally as well as financially satisfactory career.
OK. - I'm not a clinician, so I DON'T dispense medical advise.
All that I, or anyone else on this thread can give you is no more than what we have learned in our own path through life.
If you suffer from clinical depression, then that is just another illness and one which is treatable.
No shame need be attached to mental illness unless a person defines him/herself by that illness and declines to fight it.
Speaking as one who does have a diagnosed mental illness, I can say that it is a social and occupational impediment, but not one which need define, confine, or any way limit, even an "averagely" intelligent persons options in life.
Having said that, I should qualify that sttement by also saying that things like clinical depression vary in degree, so what might be no worse than the mental equivalent of a "limp" for one person might mean complete medical incapacity for another.
If you think that you might have a depressive illness, then I implore you, NOT patronise you, to seek professional help.
Such things can make a big difference to both your quality and quantity of life. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 3:54:41 PM | | I wasn't being harsh diamond..... I was answering the man's question. If you want me to lie to make you feel better, that's your issue. Of course I've felt down, I got help, I didn't come to a message board to whine while lashing out great exaggerations about others saying they are my problem. If the OP doesn't want honest opinions from posters here, he shouldn't have posted and if you have a need to disagree with others opinions instead of answering the OP with your opinion, that's your issue. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 4:33:16 PM | Daynadaze
you aren't listening, you don't want to listen, you want to bytch and be listened to,you like the sound of your own whine, call a Whaaaabulance
That is harsh, potentially hurtful and just down right mean.
Grow a heart. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 8:13:45 PM | I flipped burgers when I was young. I am now an engineer. I had a good time flippen burgers because it was at bush gardens and there was some real hotties working there and I used to think I impressed them flipping them 100 times in the air. (Burgers not the hotties) Truth to be known they loved me for my blue eyes.
There are good things and bad things that go on everyday. It is all what you want to make it. If you think about all that is bad you will drive yourself crazy. Try being an optimist first of all. This might sound crazy but you can almost found out something good out of something bad. Sometimes you might think you took a wrong road in life but you might have taken the right one because it led you to something good.
They is nothing wrong with having goals. If you want to be an astronut, then go for it.
There is a lot of great things in this world. you just have to open your eyes to see them. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 8:32:53 PM |
Somehow this just makes me think of the MASH theme music........
That's an awful miserable tune. Never watched the show anyway. There ya, that's my vent. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 8:39:16 PM | | I recommend Shakespeare first, and then a general reading of Classic Western literature. Throw in 'The Art of War" and some volunteer work, and your outlook will be radically changed. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 9:09:55 PM | | I joinned a church A Baptist Church in Hammond Indiana when I was the OP's age, they cut off all my hair and make me look like a dork. I joinned the Navy too went to boot camp beat the crap out of my company commander and got kicked out. They paid me enough money to go home but I stayed here and I've been here ever since. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 10:04:04 PM | Let me be clear when I say I do not want pity or someone to tell me everything is ok when the sky is turning orange and the oceans mysteriously vanished. The more I think about it (on those occasions when sleep is a hard beast to tame -- I call those most nights), I realize I simply have an odd sense of looseness; I really am not sure what to do next.
I will not join a church because I do not believe God -should it exist - really even gives a shit. If I were an omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent being, I really would not give two shits about some ant feeling discouraged with his job at the crumb-gathering plant. I'd be slamming together galaxies and tieing peoples shoes together when they weren't looking.
Anyway, if I may redirect this topic back to itself, I've thought of signing up and I feel it would be best for all if I didn't - for all involved.
I don't have this mentality of woe is me, so anyone insinuating such a thing is wrong. I know 155,000 people die every day, 1,000,000,000 don't have clean drinking water or enough food. Many are involved in wars or some kind of conflict where death is common, and Michael Bay still gets to keep making movies. So any "suffering" I may or may not feel is relative. However, I still am in the clouds. And atleast my sense of humor is still alive, or I would not. | |
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Posted: 10/20/2009 10:19:18 PM | Alright... So it's "all a joke" as stated in your profile... Then why are you missing the humor?...
I know you've got it in ya...
Let's see... A budding writer sans paper & ink... An artist lacking canvas & pigment, clay or stone... An actor without a stage...
Let the world go about it's horrible business, and don't dwell on it too much...
Ventilation is healthy...
Now that you're refreshed; isn't there something you've been wanting to do?... | |
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Posted: 10/21/2009 4:44:36 PM | | Journalling is a very useful tool. I am a published writer and some of my best stuff has been written as a kind of catharsis, a purging. Try this little exercise: Write about something bad that happened to you, but in the third person so that you are an Observer; you will see much more.. Change the ending of the episode to something positive. Now change the story to the first person (you) and have the positive outcome be your new memory. It is remarkable how freeing this can be! Be well. | |
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Posted: 10/21/2009 10:32:21 PM | I know what I wrote Diamond, do you have anything to add besides criticizing my posts?  | |
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Posted: 10/21/2009 10:52:43 PM |
Alright... So it's "all a joke" as stated in your profile... Then why are you missing the humor?...
I know you've got it in ya...
Let's see... A budding writer sans paper & ink... An artist lacking canvas & pigment, clay or stone... An actor without a stage...
Let the world go about it's horrible business, and don't dwell on it too much...
Ventilation is healthy...
Now that you're refreshed; isn't there something you've been wanting to do?...
No, please tell me | |
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Posted: 10/21/2009 11:13:27 PM | I thought that this was a thread, where we might actually do some venting...
Somehow, it got waylaid in which the OP was diagnosed with depression...
I really wanted to vent... | |
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Posted: 10/21/2009 11:29:53 PM | "What you are; I was...
What I am; you will be"...
Someone much wiser than myself said that... But it doesn't have to be that way...
You have the advantage of youth; and the ability to make better choices...
Cheer the fvck up, will ya?... | |
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Posted: 10/22/2009 12:38:35 AM |
I thought that this was a thread, where we might actually do some venting...
I really wanted to vent...
Do it! Ask Daynadaze for some advice, I dare ya! | |
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Posted: 10/22/2009 1:37:02 PM |
Do it! Ask Daynadaze for some advice, I dare ya!
I don't need to ask anyone for advice...I was just looking forward to a good ol' fashion, b1tch fest.  | |
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Posted: 10/22/2009 4:34:24 PM | | There are no external answers for the narcissist...let he or she look to themselves like they usualy do for the answers to their problems. | |
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