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Posted: 11/7/2009 5:18:29 AM |
I want you to propose an example of what a fair equalization would be for a mother with 2 kids who has stayed home for 12 years to raise them and hasn't worked outside the home until the last 3 years at a part-time job..FYI....she was married for 16 yrs...
(not me...my bbf is going through this atm)
How often are the children with each parent? What is the fathers annual income?
Those are the only two stats that matter. The 12 years at home raising them, only having a job in the last 3 and 16 years of marriage are stats that matter in spousal support and are supposed to have nothing to do with child support. | |
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Posted: 11/7/2009 5:25:38 AM |
What got me though, was the cashier asked for his ID to purchase the rubbers. What in the heck for? Would she (or walgreens rather) rather have a unwanted pregnancy, have this young man saddled with child support, and potentially a fatherless child?
Maybe she was feeling a little frisky herself and wanted to know where to go after her shift.
And on the flipside, men, if you rubber up, or commit to any kids you choose to have, you wont have "the evil women" asking you to (gasp) help support your own offspring.
If it were only that easy... if only. | |
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Posted: 11/7/2009 6:40:31 AM | Stacey;;;;
Definition of stupid post is someone who mistakes two different histories or life stories and blends them into one.
So my mistake. My disdain or lack of respect for those who never cease to complain about what they are not getting in terms of cs sometimes colours my judgement or sense of fairness. So I owe you an apology for attributing someone else's situation of supporting their ex prior to marriage and then expecting them to suddenly start supporting the children after marriage. | |
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Posted: 11/7/2009 11:00:27 AM | ThatUsername....
Wouldn't matter to some men how much time the children are with each parent. You still have the ones on here whining about how we want their money and that it is undeserved, totally forgetting its for the kids they were a part in making.
Those of us who the fathers don't see the children at all, get told well we must be preventing from that, so we should pretty much just suck it up and move on.
Did you know at least here in BC if the father doesn't pay any support when the child is of age he can go for it themselves.... food for thought, would one rather pay now, or pay huge amounts later.... | |
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Posted: 11/7/2009 11:40:44 AM | You know they have prenups that do take into consideration much of what has been removed from the divorce laws we used to have before nofault came into effect.
matariki sweet, Once anyone becomes a parent you will always be in debt but is more to do with how some men end up with 23 years of payments. Many times they will have lost control long before the child saw the light of day.
But the real problem really is that 50 50 isn't the norm, paternity fraud is still not against the law, a women doesn't have to have reason to divorce, in my case my payments are set way too high for what I earn, the process isn't as easy to change with the going back to court just to settle such a simple thing.
Men may be the ones who get caught fooling around but usually they are easy to spot but if a married woman has a plan the damage can be horrendous. Women are way too fickle to even bother marrying anymore. It's way too dangerous and risky.
You will never get it, sure you may have been abused or cheated on but all in all you still came out on top. You have your kid(s), the most you will have to deal with is a little financial hardship.
Men on the other hand if not ready, lose much more emotionally and physically and at the end of it, are alone.
Yes there are posters here that have ex's that seem to be living it up but how many times must your mother or any of us guys tell you, he wasn't the type you should have married. Sure that sounds like a nice guy thread rant but it is what it is.
My nephew is a classic example. Athletic tall good looking but what is it that his ex complained about? He didn't clean, never shopped for groceries, didn't help enough around the house and this is the best one she didn't trust him around other women. My sister actually say her down and told her all about this, the women, his laziness the whole deal.
What did she do? Married him and had his child and then couldn't stand it any longer and they separated in less than two years. His fault? Hardly, but he will no doubt find yet another woman who will somehow think that he will change and unluckily become baby momma number four.
I watch a show called Dexter, this weeks episode covers this scenario quite well.
Dexter ( a serial sociopathic killer) and his wife are sitting accross from a marraige councilor. Her issue was about trust and his lies about his keeping his old apartment.
He says he wants to change and the wife interupts and says it's always like this, even before we got married oyu were never totally honestwith me.
The therapist stops her right there and tells her that this isn't his fault, this is a behavior you were aware of so you cannot blame him for this. He has said he is trying you have to either accept that he may not be able to or move on.
He tells her the real reason (sort of ) and they end this problem with a compromise.
This scenario plays out all too often and unfortuanately kids show up before the light bulb goes on, by then it is way too late and we come here and **** about how much or how little all because we ignored reality even when it up and slapped us in the face.
If more women could just put the brakes on the needs for having children long enough to find the right guy, we'd have a lot less of these kinds of problems. | |
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Posted: 11/7/2009 2:02:52 PM | Sweetness, I know. I admit that i spent way too much time with him. I have accepted that. He was a loser. But I also took my marriage vows very seriously. I meant what I said, when I said them. I don't believe in divorce, except in extreme circumstances. And to put it simply, I loved him. Very much. I still do. I know how silly and weak that sounds. I also know that I will never take him back. And I have also accepted that I will never see a dime from him in child support.
My only point in even posting all of this is just that a lot of people on here seem to think that all of us single mothers are in this for the money. Granted, yes, there are a lot of women out there that abuse the system and are in this for the free ride they can get from the government and their ex. (Not that that money from the government is a whole lot, but some will use it just to keep from gettting a job). But at the same time, a lot of us on here, both moms and dads really do care about our children and what is best for them. In my case, the best thing I can do for my kids is to go through social services and file for the assistance I can. I don't want anything from my ex, but the government is going to go after him,whether I want them to or not. I don't get to choose that. | |
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Posted: 11/8/2009 2:39:18 PM | | i have a daughter of 13 years of age she spends 13 days a month with me , not too mention that i pick her up from school nearly everyday , also give her , her tea each night her mother picks her up at 6pm from me , takes her home bearing in mind i have allready gave her tea/dinner , so nothing for the mother too do , on weekends her mum goes out with friends and if its not my weekend to have my daughter she drops her at her nans or which ever family member is convenient at the time , she comes home about 2am my daughter still with the other family member , ok , and she also recieves child tax credits , + £280 pcm from me , + child benefit , + she works full time as does her partner , i buy my daughter clothing which has over the last few month ended up round my X,s never too be seen again , so if i,m contributing all of this and she has other benefits too ( WHAT FINANCIAL SUPPORT DOES SHE GIVE ) - 0 - nothing as i,m damn sure when my daughter is with me it does not cost over £100 per week to keep her unless she has suddenely taken too eating caviar and salmon , iwomen have got the best of both worlds , not only screwing the partner for cash but also using their children for an easy buck - blood money , why can,t the woman take responsibility for the child too as i,m sure my x and her partners combined income + blood money and other state handouts amount too a damn sight more than i earn every month , i also believe absent fathers should be screwed for every available penny as their are so many kids out their who do suffer , but my daughter will always be very well looked after by myself , pity the GVT body did,nt recognise the fact that their are some really decent dads out their , but their policies are all wrong !! women should help towards the up keep of the child too , would be nice , but the woman gives birth and then decides to go and then she is so quick to sign on the dotted line , but i say if the woman leaves a good home for fresh meat then she should get diddly squat and the father should get full custody as she is putting her own feelings before that of her child - RANT OVER: verymad: | |
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Posted: 11/8/2009 8:29:09 PM | Women have a lot more to lose and if your friend feels her lifestyle should continue after the divorce is wrong, she rolled the dice and lost. End of story.~wonderingsole~
^^^^^^^Okay....nowhere in your post (msg 275) did I see a suggestion of what would be a fair settlement for my girlfriend going through a divorce atm.
The reason I did not give particular info on her education, age and work experience is because it is kinda a moot point after she dedicated the last 12 years of her life raising two kids.
So, I guess I am left to make the assumption that your feelings is that women who find themselves with an a-hole a few years down the road..should either grin and bear it or suffer the consequences of their choices they made before there were kids involved?
Geez....and you guys wonder why men can't get organized enough to actually rally the court system for equality of custody...not very surprising since many men refuse to give up anything before they are awarded the very thing they claim to fight for.....
Let me know which men's movement you belong to...I will send a cheque...because clearly alot of men with your attitude need alot of therapy..
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Posted: 11/8/2009 8:46:25 PM |
and you guys wonder why men can't get organized enough to actually rally the court system for equality of custody
Oh can't you give your man-hating rants a rest for one bloody post? "Wah wah wah men did this. Wah wah wah men didn't do that." Try being an adult for a change, would ya? | |
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Posted: 11/8/2009 8:51:11 PM | You know, wonderingsole, what I really dislike is the kind of generalizations in which you are putting all men on the same level. I dislike it when people like you are taking the right to speak for all men about their supposedly universal motivations. I think it's degrading for some of us men who don't fit that profile, who are not like this at all, who think differently. I think every human being is different and unique and I find it distasteful when someone is advancing "explanations" as to why or how "men" as a whole are supposed to feel or act.
For instance:
I have said this before and will say it again that men will agree to kids to make mates happy and to keep the poon happenin'.
Where does THAT comes from? It's insulting to me, and I would imagine to many other men who are proud to be fathers, to insinuate that men only have kids "to make mates happy" rather than because - gasp! - perhaps they actually WANT to be fathers?
Men are simple, women are like computer hacking ... (in the quote ahead)
Another one of those generalizations. Speak for yourself, buddy. You may feel like you are "simple" but don't speak for me.
Trust me liz, having a hard time being proud to be guy these days myself.
Well, *I* am proud to be a man. And I am also proud NOT to count myself as part of the philosophy of life you are presenting as being "a man".
Also, it bothers me that you are claiming equality when it comes to paternity and CS, but you aren't displaying equality for anything else :
a women doesn't have to have reason to divorce,
Nor does a man, both can divorce for any reason they see fit. Thankfully.
Women are way too fickle to even bother marrying anymore. It's way too dangerous and risky.
Last time I checked, it took two people to marry. Not that marriage is any guarantee that the couple will be stable on the long run. As for being fickle, excuse me, but in my book it seems to me that there are just as much fickle man who do not want to marry either - and we can speculate as to why is that, too.
Another thing that really gets on my nerves is when the blame is put back on the victim's shoulders. Correct me if I am wrong, but I seem to be getting a lot of that in your post : a "men" might be a cheater or a player, but hey - it's the woman's fault because she should have seen it, right?
For instance:
He got promoted and power and money tend to skew a persons morality a bit so this lead to either him banging his secretary or some tart who figured she would get him to leave the wife and take her away And? does that excuses the act of cheating? How does that makes it any excusable? And if you are saying that money and power would have this effect - how can you then say the woman should have seen this in advance when it wasn't the case at first?
Or worst:
sure you may have been abused or cheated on but all in all you still came out on top.
Wow! Hey, you sure have NO IDEA what kind of trauma abuse and date rape can be. Hell, to even suggest that one can "come out on top" from this is making me speechless. Again, it seems that the abuser (whether that abuser is a man or a woman, by the way) should own his/her responsibility here. It's NEVER the victim's fault. When you live abuse, you should ALWAYS get away from it. And if the abuser ends up having to pay for child support, so be it. You should have thought of this before you abuse someone.
Besides, the whole analogy with rolling dice stinks. According to you, a woman is "taking chances" each time she is "choosing" to have kids. Choosing? Rolling the dice? really? How about making a common decision with a man about this BEFORE having sex? And if after having sex you end up pregnant, can you understand that - for many different reasons - it may be that the woman might not feel ready for an abortion? What if she isn't rolling the dice, she is simply assuming that the responsibility for having unprotected sex is SHARED in both the man and woman, and that now that the unwanted pregnancy happened, it's BOTH adult's responsibility to provide for the child?
Meanwhile, she got swept up in the disney movie scenario of perfect kids, perfect hubby, perfect house and gave up her career. Lots of faith considering the numbers ( and we all know you guys hate stats) and now do we blame him? Her?
Okay. So let me get this straight. It's not okay for a partner to dream that the relationship will be stable and solid and that you can build a family, because hey, let's look at the statistics and so - she should expect her mate to be cheating and running away from his responsibilities, so it's HER fault - is that it?!?!?
What did she do? Married him and had his child and then couldn't stand it any longer and they separated in less than two years. His fault? Hardly...
Wait, so it's NOT his fault that he doesn't do groceries, don't help with the house, isn't clean, and cheat on woman? I mean, he didn't try to seduce her? Didn't do whatever he needed so that he could get into her pants? Is that it? The only responsible party here is the woman, because - god forbid! - she didn't guess all of these while he was seducing her?
Yes, I agree that ANYBODY who wants to have kids - regardless of gender - should take the time to really know their partner before they decide this. Which is also true for marriage. And I agree that you cannot change people, you can only change yourself.
But please, let's be realistic: seducing someone is all about showing your good side only. And a woman can wait years and years and never see the bad side of someone UNTIL children come into play in a relationship. That's reality. | |
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Posted: 11/8/2009 8:59:05 PM | As usual liz you asked a question you really didn't want an answer to. I sked more questions to try and get a better idea of your bff's (you have friends?) situation but like always it was just so you could attempt (and I do mean attempt) to bash men or in this case the b#astard who is divorcing your friend(?).
You claim to know so much about men yet you come across as yet another naive victim, bent on making all men pay for the poor soul who had the displeasure of one time thinking you worthy of depositing sperm into.
Men are simple, women are like computer hacking, you look for the pattern and then it is much easier to see what it is your dealing with.
If your friend fell into the scenario I described then yes I gave an example of what I feel is fair, anytthing more and she would have no reason to come here and complain that is not enough to keep the mortgage patments up. Although I would think she ended up with the house and would still expect the man she is divorcing to continue to pay for it, birds of a feather and all that. | |
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Posted: 11/8/2009 9:03:44 PM | Oh can't you give your man-hating rants a rest for one bloody post? "Wah wah wah men did this. Wah wah wah men didn't do that." Try being an adult for a change, would ya? ~that guy him~
 ...DITTO!!!....I already tried to put the adult olive branch out...you just kinda snapped it off.....what did ya want me to do?...tell you your right?...not bloody likely when you have the attitude of a toddler... | |
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Posted: 11/8/2009 9:15:17 PM |
I already tried to put the adult olive branch out...you just kinda snapped it off.....what did ya want me to do?...tell you your right?
What in the hell are you talking about? You weren't even talking to me. | |
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Posted: 11/8/2009 9:41:49 PM | What in the hell are you talking about? You weren't even talking to me. ~that guy him~
^^^your right...however my post somehow still seems releveant to your posting history!....birds of a feather..y'know?... | |
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Posted: 11/8/2009 9:48:35 PM |
however my post somehow still seems releveant to your posting history!
No... your posting history was relevent to my post.
birds of a feather..y'know?...
No... I don't know. Why don't you explain. Lemme guess... another man-hating rant. Surprise surprise. | |
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Posted: 11/8/2009 10:01:11 PM | You claim to know so much about men yet you come across as yet another naive victim, bent on making all men pay for the poor soul who had the displeasure of one time thinking you worthy of depositing sperm into.~wonderingsole~
^^^Wow..classy comment...and very offensive from all angles.... bravo...you managed to insult every woman who has gone through a relationship split/divorce and at the same time you have managed to dismiss the children that were a product of that relationship as mistakes that men are forced to carry the burden of...
Men are simple, women are like computer hacking, you look for the pattern and then it is much easier to see what it is your dealing with.
If your friend fell into the scenario I described then yes I gave an example of what I feel is fair, anytthing more and she would have no reason to come here and complain that is not enough to keep the mortgage patments up. Although I would think she ended up with the house and would still expect the man she is divorcing to continue to pay for it, birds of a feather and all that. ~wonderingsole~
^^^you are right about one thing...some men are simple...too simple to think ahead when it comes to managing what their personal liabilities and future responsibilities will be .
As far as my friend goes...she has hired a new lawyer...I won't bother to share her circumstances in detail..that is not my place..I was just using her as an example to provoke a discussion about what a fair and equitable resoloution would be...the circumstances are irreleveant aren't they?...I mean since when did cheating on a spouse or work history affect the amount of child support that is ordered?...did I miss the memo? | |
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Posted: 11/8/2009 10:29:13 PM | ive never posted before but after reading several pages i felt i had to put my 2 cents in. i am a single mom, been so for 3 years, my daughter will be 4 next month. i lost my job of 12 yrs the day i found out i was pregnant. i had no choice but to go on welfare, but i managed to postpone it until my daughter was 3 months old. it took me about a month to find a job, probly because i felt it necessary to let potential employers know i was expecting. but once i found a job, i worked consistantly from then on. it was only part time making minimum wage, very different from the $500/wk paychecks i had been used to bringing home. when the welfare office offered me job training, i jumped on the chance. i completed the training in 2/2007, and was not able to find employment resulting from my training until 3/2009. and during the entire time, i sent out resumes, i searched newspapers & websites & worked with job coaches. i tried networking through family, friends & customers who came into where ever i happened to be working at that time. i worked hard, i struggled, and spent so many nights crying because i was ashamed of being on welfare, ashamed of working for almost no money at all. i even considered asking my daughter's great aunt to adopt her, because i felt she would be better provided for. and do you want to know what my daughter's daddy was doing the entire time? he was working, bringing home $700/ wk. there was a court order for wage garnishment, but it couldnt be enforced unless he called to report his place of employment. he was at the bar every weekend with his buddies. buying his new girlfriend expensive gifts, eating out every weekend. on the rare occasions he did call, when i'd ask him for help, he'd say well, you wanted sole custody, you shouldnt need my help, & if you cant support her, give her to me. he never asked to see her, even though he was granted visitation every sunday afternoon. he kept his visits for about 5 weeks, then stopped showing up. it took all these years, but i finally am able to support her. i get medical for her, thats it. no more welfare. i'm not living with family, & i'm not in subsidized housing. im planning to buy my own home in a few years. my reasoning for advertising my story is that i'm so fed up with non- custodial parents b@tching about paying child support. how can you put a price on your child's worth? and as far as the custodial parent having to report how the child support is spent, thats just assinine (is that how you spell it?). so what if she uses some to get her hair done. everything she makes is put towards providing for the child. the roof over the child's head, the food, the child care, clothing, extracurricular activities, transportation, cold medicine, missing an entire day of work when the child is too sick to go to daycare, the list is endless. if you want to talk fair, keep a ledger of every dime that gets put towards the child, add it up at the end of the month, & divide it by 2. each parent is responsible for 1/2. i've received MAYBE 1/4 of what my daughter's father was ordered to pay from 3 yrs ago until now. i dont even know how much he owes any more. and child support enforcement does not 'enforce' all the ways they claim to. yes, there are some horrible females out there who do try to take advantage of the other parent. but being the NONCUSTODIAL parent, how would you know, you're not there. you really dont know how it is on your own, you havent been there. please dont be so quick to judge. its hard enough growing up in a single parent home, without adding to the mix that your other parent resents you because, god forbid, he (or she) has to put you before him (or her)self.
to all the single dads out there - you should be very proud of what you are doing. alot of times it goes unnoticed, because people assume the dad deserted mom & baby.
and i know there must be lots of good 'noncustodial' dads, dont give up, even when mom is trying to make it difficult for you. your kids will see as they get older, & thats whats important.
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Posted: 11/9/2009 4:08:20 AM |
and i know there must be lots of good 'noncustodial' dads, dont give up, even when mom is trying to make it difficult for you.
And here's the irony. You do realize it's impossible for us because;
my reasoning for advertising my story is that i'm so fed up with non- custodial parents b@tching about paying child support. how can you put a price on your child's worth? and as far as the custodial parent having to report how the child support is spent, thats just assinine (is that how you spell it?). so what if she uses some to get her hair done. everything she makes is put towards providing for the child. the roof over the child's head, the food, the child care, clothing, extracurricular activities, transportation, cold medicine, missing an entire day of work when the child is too sick to go to daycare, the list is endless. if you want to talk fair, keep a ledger of every dime that gets put towards the child, add it up at the end of the month, & divide it by 2. each parent is responsible for 1/2. i've received MAYBE 1/4 of what my daughter's father was ordered to pay from 3 yrs ago until now. i dont even know how much he owes any more. and child support enforcement does not 'enforce' all the ways they claim to. yes, there are some horrible females out there who do try to take advantage of the other parent. but being the NONCUSTODIAL parent, how would you know, you're not there. you really dont know how it is on your own, you havent been there. please dont be so quick to judge.
The laws are set up to cater to this point of view. In fact this post almost mimics the laws. There's an entire book dedicated to outlining child support and other financial responsibilities, a workbook to help you through, and yet another book with the table amounts. Then there's this little tiny blurb... a short paragraph in the Divorce Act mentioning something about the considerations that a judge should take into effect when making a custody order.
Sorry... children are going to continue to get f*cked over and have limited access with good "non-custodial" parents because the courts have to waste their time smoothing over the hurt feelings of the parents who are "so fed up with non- custodial parents b@tching about paying child support." Thanks for the small display of compassion, but no thanks. | |
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Posted: 11/9/2009 5:18:55 AM | Cmon CS, I guess genetically you're a guy and I am glad you not the womanizer type, but seriously with you being somewhat exposed to psychology and human behavior many women make the mistake of thinking they can change a man.
The tendancies to ignore the signs of cheating or abuse are usually apparant with the exception of the few who may be considered masters of deceprion.
In Liz's friends example I asked reasonable questions, if she was really looking for some idea then she would have answered instead she chose to read only the words she wanted and as usual turned it into an attempt to once spill out her agenda.
Many women are warned about their potential mates yet choose to ignore the advice. Are we then not able to assess some blame to them?
If you were to ask a marraige councilor this question she would agree with me and not you.
My statement about not being too proud about being a guy lately has a lot to do with a personal situation and an article I saw yesterday. Both are examples of my impressions of women and their base instincts. One, the K-fed thing about his fifth.
You could ask a thread question and most responses would be that I wouldn't date or have a realtion with a man like this but here he is with yet another woman having his child. He is one clear example of the bad boy image, now are we to assume she just had an unplanned pregnancy and is making the best of it knowing she will in fact do most of the rearing for that child?
Is it really his fault for just being so damm good looking the woman was so willing to overlook his flaws just to get to his genetic material? Get real.
My nephew who has fathered three kids from three different moms id barely out of a marraige that lasted two years. He is so depressed about his failed marraige that he has already moved on to potential baby momma four. This just screams out that he does not really have a grasp about love at all and will be the same guy he was before he married. A womanizer. Always has been. So do we blame her although she was warned and most likely had words with him about this before they married yet decided to marry him anyway?
Sure seems like all his fault to me. (sarcasm)
So I stand by my statements because I am a guy and from my observations in real life. My experiences working in bars, nightclubs and the public in general have given me more insight then any of your texts. Unlike you I have been in LTR's and have been married and am a father.
As a bartender I have been called upon to soothe the cries of women who sing the blues about guys, have listened to the boastings of sexual conquerers and their latest bedmates and as a waiter witness the boss/ secretary tuesday night tryst meeting only to have to see the same gent on the friday evening with wife in tow.
And as sample groups go I am the youngest of seven children, with close to thirty nieces and newphews the majority of them now are becomming parents. In that group I have seen clear examples of good and mostly bad relationships with kids being used as unfortuante pawns. I have seen first hand the effects of being raised by single parents.
You can choose to pick apart my statements and disagree all you like but I can bet that every one knows a womanizer or someone who married the wrong guy so if that doesn't fit into getting swept into a world of make believe or self illusion then hey your perogative. | |
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Posted: 11/9/2009 7:44:59 AM |
Okay....nowhere in your post (msg 275) did I see a suggestion of what would be a fair settlement for my girlfriend going through a divorce atm.
The reason I did not give particular info on her education, age and work experience is because it is kinda a moot point after she dedicated the last 12 years of her life raising two kids.
So, I guess I am left to make the assumption that your feelings is that women who find themselves with an a-hole a few years down the road..should either grin and bear it or suffer the consequences of their choices they made before there were kids involved
Again, you are talking about spousal support; NOT child support.
Geez....and you guys wonder why men can't get organized enough to actually rally the court system for equality of custody...not very surprising since many men refuse to give up anything before they are awarded the very thing they claim to fight for.....
Too many men give up without even contesting custody. If more men would contest custody you would see a lot more equality in custody IMO. This does not include dipshits who knocked up someone or got knocked up in some short term relationship or random hook up. I'm talking about actual committed parents here. | |
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Posted: 11/10/2009 11:24:50 PM | Calculate? I have no idea - it seems to fluctuate quite a bit.
It has to do with the lawyer you get, the amount of money you make and what you agree to, with there being a baseline amount.
I have a friend - she gets 5K a month....I have another friend, she gets $400 a month.
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Posted: 11/11/2009 10:35:09 AM | It's your kids. What's it worth to ya?
Anywhere between 84 and 168 hours per week.
However, I was only allowed to contribute 60 of the 84 hours that would have made it an equitable split so that someone could create an answer to your guilt-laden question. Because us guys... hey... all we can contribute is cash, huh? | |
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Posted: 11/11/2009 11:51:30 AM | Maybe walmart should get in on this maybe we can get a better price?
What is the going rate for men to buy fatherhood these days anyways? | |
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