| Are all men potential rapists?
Posted: 10/24/2009 9:09:14 PM |
Maybe I'm just getting to that cranky old lady stage.
naaa luviii...trust me it's the cougar stage...trying to put that behind me
as you can see retracting the claws doesn't always work....then again a little scratch now and then is all good too, don't ya think?
You are right (IMO) our societies are sticking their heads into the sand on most anything,
analyze, make assessments and when done every one forgot what it was all about until the cycle repeats itself.
In that sense the only thing that ever really gets done is when someone usually for some hidden agenda creates a public paranoia or really wants to have a statue of themselves built...
and on that note one cant really blame advocates for whatever cause to use the same means...
and I'm too in a bit of a dreamland believing democracy = majority rules, it hasn't been that way for decades and is getting worse...but we all can at least be optimists, no? | |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 3:04:08 AM | Well anything but anything but Classc
There was no bashing, libel, or insults, nor disgusting sex based comments. Perhaps you should understand the rules better before trying to thrust them in the face of others. There was no "attack" as you claim so don't try and play some sort of victim when I pointed out the giant holes in your rebuttal. Oddly enough you try and play the sex card yourself which would be against the rules you tried to bring up. Quite silly if you ask me.
As the point I made stands, those who wished to castrate individuals for the act can easily be likened to those who want to cut off the arms of those that steal, which is far too barbaric. I wish you the time to reflect upon your thoughts so that you can hopefully find the folly of your comments so that you can grown and learn so you do not try and play the victim when it is unneeded. I find it a sad point that you would try and play it up on that angle when no such thing happened.
Though if you wish to suggest that the male perspective is that we shouldn't cut the arms of people who steal, or the legs off of those who run away, it speaks volumes to what you think the female perspective is, which is atrocious, and obviously not what most reasonable women would think.  | |
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| Are all men potential rapists?
Posted: 10/25/2009 10:04:44 AM | ^^^^ now , now you two... puns intended...
each society is struggling to impose what they believe is most effective to keep the evil in all of mankind in check
cutting off limbs was an obvious, logical and very efficient and effective solution, saving the state a lot of $$$ in trials and incarceration.... and no one can deny that....
If practiced in our society we certainly would have a lot less cell phone users while driving and much less traffic...and I suppose handshakes or masturbation would be pretty much out too....
and no more labeling or generalizations  no arms or hands = crook
so pleeeze
quit twisting and bending the rules posing as both victim and aggressor to get your way
this reminds me of dominance and submission part of the BDSM subculture....
why don't ya wait for Halloween, put on your favorite outfit and go for it
remember in the end the submissive usually is in control
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| Are all men potential rapists?
Posted: 10/25/2009 11:15:15 AM | I can't help to think of hearing about girls and women horrifically raped with weapons in Darfur or about the Bosnian War describing a stage set up for soliders to watch others rape women .. one woman describes how she was raped repeatedly as her children watched then she watched them rape her children. They used also used objects.
All men are potential rapists... isn't elusive to just our area. There's no sign on men telling us who is and who isn't. We are not pointing fingers. (well, some of us women)
It's just a fact.. be a woman for a day and try living with that fact. Don't spout off equality to me. I take it personal when I think of incidents I've encountered.
Instead, just be an example to disprove the statement. I can't stress that enough. | |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:26:21 PM | | If you're worried about people not being what they claim, don't sign up for an online dating site. /thread | |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 12:31:30 PM | (Apparently I cannot just lurk in here - cold turkey or nothing. )
I am so glad this thread was started. Really identifies those who have underlying issues against women IMHO, not naming any names but they are clearly stated herein. It would be nice if all prospective suitors were required to post their opinions on this matter on this thread. Much time could be saved - what would that do to the coffee income though?
Yes, one probably could say it appears I have issues against men from my posts and I might have to look at whether male bashing humour is really PC any more or not.
But those here who immediately have to gone to that old rotten place where a woman is dummied down by terms of endearment, where words such as slut are mentioned in a thread about rape, where a self professed gentleman indicates a woman is not entitled to gentlemanly behaviour on his part unless she acts and speaks in a manner acceptable to him, where obscure references are made to "cougars", are apparently NOT JOKING (!!)
Sadly I think these comments only emphasize the message Ms. Flynn was making. It's a long long way to Tipperary folks.
How has our society produced such weak-minded, weak-spined, and weak-spirited men?
says the weak-willed faller off the wagoner.
PS. Oh. And I believe strong men can take their tea straight up - without the honey. | |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 1:45:54 PM |
But those here who immediately have to gone to that old rotten place where a woman is dummied down by terms of endearment, where words such as slut are mentioned in a thread about rape, where a self professed gentleman indicates a woman is not entitled to gentlemanly behaviour on his part unless she acts and speaks in a manner acceptable to him, where obscure references are made to "cougars", are apparently NOT JOKING (!!)
It is always a sad day when someones commentary becomes venomous governed by blindfolds set so narrow that only a singularity becomes the focal point and thus demonstrating lack of or willingness or ability to comprehend as evidenced in the above comment, and it isn't a first.
While I may be sympathetic to whatever negative experiences you may have had in your life it does not justify your behaviour against other people especially those who have expressed their disgust for crime and violence in general in this and other forums.
Perhaps you take a minute and re-read the words I wrote in the context in which they were written.
Rocin wrote
Maybe I'm just getting to that cranky old lady stage.
in reference to self I (Mountain lion) wrote {See Wiki
The cougar (Puma concolor), also known as puma, mountain lion}
naaa luviii...trust me it's the cougar stage...trying to put that behind me
as you can see retracting the claws doesn't always work....then again a little scratch now and then is all good too, don't ya think?
These words may be sarcasm in a comforting reference to age they are absolutely not connected promoting disrespect of women, one or in general or condoning violence, including rape. | |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 5:05:25 PM | Are all men potential rapists?
Yes, just like all women are potential prostitutes.....(stated sarcastically)
What a stupid asinine question.....
Come on people, think, I mean REALLY think about this...
For a rapist, it is not about the act of sex. It is about control, being the aggressor, generating fear in their victim, ultimate violation, and physical assault often resulting violent death of the rapist's victim.
I don't feel that it is in the majority of mens genetic psychological makeup and their thought processes to violate a woman in such a manner.
jmho | |
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Posted: 10/25/2009 11:27:49 PM | | Besides the emotional/physical/psychological carnage that a woman in her profession would see, I cannot tell you how offensive that comment is. I have worked with too many rapists, sex offenders (same crap) in my 28 year professional career , and the words "ALL men are POTENTIAL RAPISTS", is probably the absolute WORST thing anyone could say about a man. Don"t lump me or any other men that at least I know, with those ANIMALS. Rapists/abusers have no guilt, zero remorse/empathy, and will do it again and again until they receive cure society hungers for. That is a painful merciless death. I am obviously a man. Do I sound like I have POTENTIAL. I know that this lady is probably a kind, caregiving person,(you would have to be to do what she does), but it would suck to think that half of the worlds population could be that monstrous. I have a grandmother, mother, adult daughters that I love and RESPECT and I know damn well I am not in the minority. | |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 12:38:20 AM | Well I am going to get flamed for this one,
But the "all men are rapist" thing has been a mainstay for the feminist moment for a long time. Drop in any woman's studies office on any campus and you will note the androgynous ladies with the "page boy" hair cuts. Feminism some how got hijacked into a lesbian club and that is when the straight women started to loose interest in feminism. That's not my "red neck" opinion that is Gloria Steinem who raised concern about that.
Laural Clark argues that the continuing historical construction of the split between feminist lesbians and their heterosexual counterparts limits both the history of women's liberation and of sexuality.
Check this picture out, and ask your self who among these woman would say men are rapists.
http://lh6.ggpht.com/Dohnutman2/R5Ley0ggQCI/AAAAAAAAKkw/l1UnD9BnGj8/s400/hooters-protest1.jpg | |
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Posted: 10/27/2009 8:24:26 PM | I'm really, really, really surprised this inflammatory bs thread didn't get jacked when other so much more interesting and less brain dead topics have been vapo'd, but hey! i'm not complaining...just sayin'...
On topic: NO! stupid question. NEXT!
The PMS Humble Poster  | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 6:31:22 PM | ^^^Yup, surprised this thread lasted four pages considering the thread title. I've seen threads in the past deleted immediately because the thread title pointed fingers at only men or only women. I was under the impression that posting rules in the forums would not allow a thread title that includes "all men" ... but what do I know. 
Surprised that everyone is so hung up on physical rape & that noone has brought up the topic of emotional, psychological or situational rape yet. I have experienced all these forms of rape & find the non-physical rapes can have more of a long-lasting impact on one's life. Just saying ..... | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 6:48:50 PM | ^^^
From http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts405843.aspx
Polarization
No Thread may exist designated exclusively for Response from a specific Gender, Ethnicity, Orientation, Religion, Public, etc. Such a Thread will be deleted. The entire Concept of a Forum is for anyone to post their Opinions and Thoughts, providing they are On-Topic, on any Threads he or she sees fit.
In no way whatsoever is this topic polarized or intended to limit or discourage response from a specific gender or group. Opinions from everyone is welcome and encouraged.
In my opinion there have been many great and thought-provoking comments, from both genders, thus making this a good discussion.
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Posted: 10/28/2009 8:40:21 PM | No, its not a question of rules. In my case it was a question of morals. I was horrified to think the issue was approached in what I thought was a disreputable fashion. However, this thread has reminded me yet again, why negative press works.
*It gets your attention, inflames and provokes, and drags some kicking and articulating into the arena whether they wish to go or not It asks is this the reason, is this possible, and you are impelled (as in this case) to say NO! or maybe, as in the case of some posters.
It did provoke interesting and relevant discussion. So yes, I guess that makes it a successful thread! | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 10:35:15 PM | I would just like to say that I wrote up a great riposte here having to do with statistics cited in the news articles referenced in opening posts on threads such as the rapist thread as an example of when I could be accused of being INTOLERANT of posters who accuse others of not reading the statistics but I thought I would be more TOLERANT than that and simple not post a response per my previous decision to go away and not come back.
(You can't see me so I am not really here....) | |
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Posted: 10/28/2009 11:00:58 PM | ^^^wrong thread darn it. IF there can be two of sweet Jane, can there be less than 1 of me?
- this is my VERY LAST POST (for a while) (I hope) (cross your fingers)(goodbye again) (this time I mean it) | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 12:32:31 AM |
When a guy is being abused that way, I think it is even less likely they come forward... because of the "weaker sex" stereo type.
My $0.02 as well.. | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 12:54:07 AM | Beside the point but to quote you
PS. Oh. And I believe strong men can take their tea straight up - without the honey.
Does taking ones tea with LOCAL HONEY for the prevention of Seasonal Pollen Allergy symptoms (Honey being made from pollens aclimates your body to said pollens like a vaccine does to your body for a virus) make one less of a man? | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 7:58:27 PM | | That's like saying all women are filthy prostitutes! Legal or illegal!! Which is not true. | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 9:35:13 PM | Filthy prostitute? love how you add filthy
Sure we can use this comparison if you wish..
all men are potential rapists like all women are potential prostitutes
the woman next door can be a prostitute and you would never know it
is it not, after all, more common for women then men to be prostitutes ?
just like it is more common for a man to be a rapist then a women ?
(feel free to correct me statistically )
and we never truly know who is a rapist.. there is no sign on them saying .. hey, im a rapist
In fact, just a few days ago I saw an online notice warning us of a man released from prison who has once again, raped another woman.
Eerily enough, he picture looked as if he could be anyone of the men here on pof. I immediately thought of this thread when I saw his picture.
meanwhile, we can pretty much tell what woman is a prostitute by driving around certain areas or reading through the newspaper ads.. can we?
Does a prostitute harm a person the same way a rapist does? So, is this a good comparison?
Give me a fair comparison and I'll jump onboard | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 10:35:51 PM | On the subject of rape, I just read about this on another forum and was so totally saddened and disgusted
http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/29/california.rape.victim.friend/index.html | |
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Posted: 10/29/2009 11:39:20 PM | Havent you heard ...the ratio of men in Victoria is 10 women to every 1 man ...we will be lucky to get laid much less raped .... | |
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Posted: 10/30/2009 12:31:15 AM | My personal experience on the subject isn't to do with rapeing people, but of being suspected of being a potential rapist. Apparently this is nieve of me, but I never realised that women have to be on guard against potential rapists among the men they meet on here...
I was going to pick up someone at her residents to go on a date with, then at the laste minute she tells me she wants to meet in a public place. I didn't get it and was a little peeved that I was being asked to pay for parking while I'm picking someone up in the middle of their daily errands but she went on to say that it wasn't like that, she was just being cautious about me being a potential thief/stalker/rapeist/killer and that if I seemed like a wierdo in person she didn't want me to know where exactly she lived. First I was puzzled then I began to ask myself if I had somehow been exuding rapeist vibes... After that, the whole playful, flirty, sexy, friendly feeling of the whole encouter just vanished. Instead of looking forward to enjoying the oppertunity to meet this person, the date kind of had a foreboading sense of going in for police questioning or something.
I just thought I would share. Ladies, if you're feeling unsure about meeting a guy in person, it might be best not to. If your going to lay it on the line anyway, start off by suggesting a meet-up in a public place, and don't mention that you think you might get raped because that can kill the mood. | |
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Posted: 10/30/2009 11:51:53 PM | ^^^don't take it personal. I'd say you didn't put out those vibes at all or she wouldn't have initially agreed to meet at her house. Someone has probably told her she is nuts not to exercise some caution, as INDEED she would be, and she rectified that. She feels silly about having to do it so she is not smooth in avoiding the explanation. Tells you she is not an overly suspicious type and an honest one with common sense to boot. But it sounds like you managed to blow it buddy. Better luck next time when you say," Oh absolutely I understand. I wouldn't want you to put yourself in any danger. " Because IF NOT YOU, maybe the next one and you don't sound like the type of guy who would wish that on anyone.
 cheers. | |
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Posted: 10/31/2009 3:16:50 AM | ^^^don't take it personal.
But it sounds like you managed to blow it buddy.
Irony at it's best. Kinda like the statement,,,,"it's not you,,,but you're a man,,,and you know that ALL men are potential rapists,,,don't ya know,,,so I gotta be real careful" ..................
Reminds me of the fact if you run around scared of everything that "could" potentially happen,,,,,nuttin ever happens,,,,,ever. | |
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