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 Dreamy Skies

Joined: 4/16/2009
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Posted: 10/24/2009 1:26:25 AM
God help this kid when he gets a job. He'll have to have an element of respect for his boss and be able to take direction from someone in authority then. School is a training ground for life, it's not just about education but socialisation too.

I think dear old duddy is setting his child up for a life on the dole.
 aunty~Bulgaria

Joined: 7/17/2009
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Posted: 10/24/2009 2:19:35 AM
^^Eaxactly my sentiments. At the end of the day, you have to have respect for the title, be that your manager, headmaster, seargent major, director, poice officer....you may think the person behind the title is a total loser but you have to show repect to the title they hold. School is training for life.
 xxDonnaDiAxx

Joined: 9/24/2009
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Posted: 10/24/2009 3:43:48 AM

Teachers are allowed to physically restrain children who's behaviour presents immediate danger to pupils or anybody else in the school environment or even to those self same students, teachers are not that constrained in ensuring the safety of others at all.


We are very strictly controlled when it comes to placing hands on our students, much more so than your statement makes out. I have witnessed fellow workers being dismisssed and suspended for frog marching a pupil out the room who spat in her face and when she tried to ask him to leave jumped on the desk (which promptly broke) dropped his trousers and swang his penis in her face, she pulled him off the table and as I said frog marched him out the schools front doors. She was suspended for assaulting a pupil after his parents complained.

We are in a battle, a war not just with the students but the parents, the very same parents whose children we are trying to educate and give a good start to in life. They are one of the many issues that are breaking this Britian we love. So many of my colleagues are now teaching at colleges and private schools where the abuse to the teacher is not so tolerated.
 silverfix

Joined: 3/25/2009
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Posted: 10/26/2009 4:50:07 PM

We are in a battle, a war not just with the students but the parents, the very same parents whose children we are trying to educate and give a good start to in life. They are one of the many issues that are breaking this Britian we love. So many of my colleagues are now teaching at colleges and private schools where the abuse to the teacher is not so tolerated.

Forgive me for being very disinclined to believe that teachers are so stymied in their day to day jobs by constant harassment from wayward pupils and their over-protective parents despite of your emotive stance there to the opposite.

What school worth their salt hasn't put in place some kind of strategy to deal with situations which you've described before they even happen? Surely if a child is so mentally disturbed that he thinks its funny to unzip his pants and swing his penis in front of his teacher's face they'd have realised this potential before they allowed it to take place?

Don't they have educational psychologists on hand to assess children for various problems?

You don't just allow a child to go through the school system ignoring all that is wrong with them like that, so that they present a threat to other teachers and pupils in the school if you can help it. If a child is persistently disruptive there are many other means and ways of tackling his or hers issues not least of which is to get as many agencies as possible involved in helping guide the child in a better direction, if a school hasn't managed to help the child as best they can then there is something desperately wrong with that school and it's not fear of being sued that's stopping them from doing the best for the child.
 lynx-1950

Joined: 6/22/2009
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Posted: 10/27/2009 1:34:48 AM

God help this kid when he gets a job. He'll have to have an element of respect for his boss and be able to take direction from someone in authority then. School is a training ground for life, it's not just about education but socialisation too.

I think dear old duddy is setting his child up for a life on the dole.


God help him IF he ever gets a job. I agree with this post. With this attitude he'll never get even get an interview let alone a job.
 23xkaTiEx

Joined: 9/5/2008
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Posted: 10/27/2009 10:16:11 AM
The crux of the matter to me is that children are not taught respect and discipline at home. It reminded me of a Panorama I saw recently which featured an 11 year old boy who hurled racial abuse and tried to mug an Asian woman. When I watched it that was the thing that shocked me the most...he was just 11!! I would have been absoutley mortified to be the mother of that child and those actions would certainly not be supported by myself (the programme did not say how the parents reacted).

It made me think about how I am raising my daughter and the values and principals that I believe are important for her to learn. I often have this discussion with my partner as we differ quite alot. He is from a Jamacian background and his parents were VERY strict, and this is the way he wants to raise his children. I have found that sometimes this can be too harsh, however, we have agreed on a balance between both of our ways of dealing with discipline.

When I was at school there were many things we were not allowed to do including wearing make up, but if we did and were disciplined for it my parents were fully supportive of that action. Their reasoning was it is the school rule, whether we agree or not. They sent us to the school fully aware of their uniform and bahaviour policies and if we didnt like it, quite simply it was tough luck.

I do not support the actions of the father because standing up for a teacher is not a huge deal for the children. This child was just being deliborately insolent. Had I been in his position with my daughter I would have been fully supportive of the schools action and she would have been returned with an assurance she would be standing in the future.

As far as I am concerned teaching a child to respect those in authority whether or not you or they think that person is an idiot is far more important. It teaches children how to deal with that in later life, and also that in this case there are consequences for their actions.
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