| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 6:09:53 AM |
From the paper/report Notice the date on it.--- { “Why Fox Has Higher Ratings —When CNN Has More Viewers” ENGLISH 1102 / 03 , 07 & 10 ?? KENNESAW STATE UNIVERSITY ?? FALL 2005 ?? MR. HAGIN Steve Rendall FAIR (Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting) April 2, 2004 (corrected version) http://ksuweb.kennesaw.edu/~shagin/48fox.pdf }
You use rumors a lot is this a rumor that your source is repeating? I understand why Fox would be popular with the republicans it's a very biased show, that's not to say that their are not some good commentators on Fox but you know that old saying about how one or more rotten apples can ruin a whole basket, if you take Rush reporting on a fake thesis and then not apologising for it that's the kind of reporting I am talking about, not only does it discredit Fox for running it, it sets a bad example for generations of young people | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 7:09:22 AM |
You use rumors a lot is this a rumor that your source is repeating?
The source that is being repearted is from Msg: 43 which used a 5 and 1/2 year old college article http://ksuweb.kennesaw.edu/~shagin/48fox.pdf to try and prove a case for CNN. Maybe some might want to look at msg 43 and see the age of the report being cited. About 6 months after the article being used Bush got re elected, so things were quite different then. Not really an article to use to talk about Obama. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 7:23:23 AM | Things have changed a whole lot in 5 years in a lot of areas; actually make that 5 and 1/2 years.
Time has passed but the fundamental difference between a "ratings share" and a "ratings cume" has not. If Faux is such the dominate ratings monster it claims to be shouldn't they have won the last election? Things that make you go Hrmmm. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 10:16:25 AM | Wonder why it is that Obama et al are so very concerned about Fox news as to go out of their way to try to turn viewers away from Fox ?
Does Fox news pose that much of a threat ?
Are we now in an age when government is attempting outright censorship ?
Is our government so insecure that they cannot handle an opposing point of view or questions about their motives ?
Just what is the Obama administration afraid of ? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 10:52:19 AM |
Just what is the Obama administration afraid of ?
Maybe they afraid of the 13% increase in ratings Fox has gained since the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate and the WH declared war on them.
Interesting that this has kind of back fired on them. For it seems that Fox is making more money and getting more viewers, probably due to Obama and the WH. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 11:49:03 AM |
Just what is the Obama administration afraid of ? I don't interpret it as anyone "being afraid" and I don't interpret it as anyone trying to "censor" an entertainment channel.
I just think it's sad that at a time in our history when the nation really should be pulling together to help heal itself, that we have this organization constantly trying to keep things stirred up.
I don't see anything wrong with reporting the news but the distortion and lies are really not necessary. The news is not always good ... at least not for those who are out of work or those who are dieing because they don't have health insurance ... so why distort the news and further turn the people against each other and further tear this nation apart?
Seems to me that now is the time for our nation to show a united front and pull ourselves up by the bootstraps and put things back together. The last 8 years pretty much put our nation through the shredder ... so do we really need an organization out there constantly pushing the "re-shred" button? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 12:06:40 PM |
We'll likely see what they're afraid of next week
Well it seems that the list of who they are afraid of seems to keep growing. Just recently the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate added the White House confronts the U.S. Chamber of Commerce to their list, with a few Democrats now starting to wonder what is happening in the WH.
Seems that if one opposes anything of the President they are added to the list that the WH put FOX on.
White House confronts the U.S. Chamber of Commerce "The chamber represents thousands of businesses . . . most of which are apolitical," said Rep. James P. Moran, a Virginia Democrat. "I'm not sure that that is the appropriate target to go after."
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-chamber25-2009oct25,0,2759556.story | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 12:22:29 PM | We'll likely see what they're afraid of next week
Oh, you must be referring to the Tea Bagger express.
Normally, this would be off topic but since they are sponsored by Faux News, I guess it fits.
I was looking at their tour map on their website. I couldn't help but notice that they are only touring through Republican states. Kinda hard to effect change when they are only preaching to the choir don't you think?
I give them props for resources tho' because they found what is apparently the only gay black conservative cowboy in the country to sing on their tea bagging tour.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jgcXNEUKKs
Now, that's scary!
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 12:40:48 PM |
I don't see anything wrong with reporting the news but the distortion and lies are really not necessary. The news is not always good ... at least not for those who are out of work or those who are dieing because they don't have health insurance ... so why distort the news and further turn the people against each other and further tear this nation apart?
I could watch any one of the mainstream channels for ten minutes and point out lies and distortion. Have you hard any news of the Republican Healthcare Bill HR 3400 which was been out since July 2009?
Why is it that the ACLU will go all out to protect the free speech of Nazis in Skokie but not lift a finger to support the free speech of Humana or Fox News???? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 2:15:35 PM |
I could watch any one of the mainstream channels for ten minutes and point out lies and distortion.
Which is about 9 1/2 minutes longer than it would take with FOX...
What was your point...?
Why is it that the ACLU will go all out to protect the free speech of Nazis in Skokie but not lift a finger to support the free speech of Humana or Fox News????
Ummm... the Nazis who marched in Skokie were individuals... people... in the flesh.
Humana and FOX are corporate entities... not individual Americans.
Think there could be a difference? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 2:31:24 PM |
Why is it that the ACLU will go all out to protect the free speech of Nazis in Skokie but not lift a finger to support the free speech of Humana or Fox News????
Is it really that hard to type "ACLU defends conservatives" into Google???
You are already sitting right in front of a computer!
ACLU Comes to Rush Limbaugh's Defense
WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. — Talk radio host Rush Limbaugh (search) probably never expected the American Civil Liberties Union (search) to become one of his staunch supporters.
But the privacy rights group was on his side Monday when its Florida branch filed a "friend-of-court" motion on behalf of Limbaugh arguing state officials were wrong in seizing his medical records for their drug probe.
"For many people, it may seem odd that the ACLU has come to the defense of Rush Limbaugh," ACLU of Florida Executive Director Howard Simon said in a released statement.
"But we have always said that the ACLU's real client is the Bill of Rights, and we will continue to safeguard the values of equality, fairness and privacy for everyone, regardless of race, economic status or political point of view," Simon said.
The ACLU contends that state law enforcement officers violated Limbaugh's privacy rights by taking possession of his medical records as part of their criminal investigation into the commentator's alleged "doctor-shopping" to feed his prescription-drug addiction. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 3:40:13 PM | If you think Fox is a mouth piece for the Right, that shows your political bias to the left. Sure, they're farther to the right than nearly half the country, but they're far to the left of the larger portion of the other half. Considering the center has drifted to the left over the last 30-40 years, I'd put Fox just right of center... Even with the obvious right leanings of several of it's commentary and editorial shows. Obama doesn't like having tough questions asked of him. That's all. Especially without a teleprompter nearby. It's political strong arm tactics... Chicago style.
Being Left-wing shills doesn't disqualify MSNBC or CNN from being news organizations. How does being slightly to the right rank as more distasteful? Obama is opening up a can of worms the Left ought to be wary of. What happens when a Conservative has the White House (and Congress) and decides there are several other candidates for Presidential attacks and banishment from access to his administration? Outrage and indignation from the Left. That's what... And Fox will be right there to back them up. You can count on that. Hell, Rupert Murdoch even endorsed Hillary for her Senate bid.  | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 4:12:41 PM | .
Gee I remember Cheney and Bush only going on Fox...........
Bush attacked NY Times many times...
White House Access to Talk Radio NEVER included a liberal..............
How about a Gay Male prostitute with a Press pass Throwing Soft ball Questions>>>>
Jeff Gannnon... how many nights did he stay in the White House anyway?.............
Obama has forced the Right Wing into the arms of Beck and Co. Extreme nonsense ...
The views base is so small it wont matter.... Chris Wallace on Sunday has about 100k viewers......... SO what...
Beck gets a Couple of Million? Katie Curic has over 14 million....
Fox who cares.............
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 4:26:28 PM |
Obama doesn't like having tough questions asked of him. That's all. Especially without a teleprompter nearby
I remember when Bush used to read off the teleprompter. You could see his eyes bouncing from left to right like the bouncing ball over the lyrics of a childrens song. Little beads of sweat forming on his brow as he focused all his strength on the arduous task of reading. And a glazed over zombie stare that let you know he had absolutely no comprehension of what had been written for him. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 4:45:36 PM |
I remember when Bush used to read off the teleprompter.
Almost as funny as the time the Nobel Peace Prize Laureatehad the Irish ambassor visiting. Seems the telepromter screwed up and the Nobel Peace Prize Laureatehad was giving the ambassor's speech for a min or two. Obama even thanked himself for being invited to the WH from Ireland.
Maybe next time the Nobel Peace Prize Laureatehad will start a war or confirm that
his teleprompter is not a proper telpromter because of all the times it has messed up on him. Or maybe the Nobel Peace Prize Laureatehad will confirm that his speech writers are not speech writers for some of the mistruths they didnt research and included in the Nobel Peace Prize Laureatehad speeches. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 5:14:37 PM |
Why is it that the ACLU will go all out to protect the free speech of Nazis in Skokie but not lift a finger to support the free speech of Humana or Fox News????
Is it really that hard to type "ACLU defends conservatives" into Google???
No. Neither is reading comprehension. I mentioned Fox and Humana. The ACLU is not defending either company. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 5:19:19 PM | Looks like the media is playing a bit of hard ball with the news issue. From the looks of it, it seems that they are not going to side with the WH on their war with Fox.
(Another bad moment for White House in war on Fox
The White House keeps up its attack on Fox News as biased in this video with Valerie Jarrett, another senior adviser to President Obama making the claim. But watch how fast Jarrett folds when CNN anchor Campbell Brown asks her if pro-administration MSNBC isn't just as biased. MSNBC is one of the giant holes in the administration's argument that Fox isn't a "real" news organization and should be ostracized. Worse, the administration's acceptance of MSNBC and attack on Fox show how intellectually inconsistent and hypocritical the White House is willing to be in trying to bully the press and shut down criticism. Take a look.
Why the White House persists in making this losing argument is anybody's guess. What's your theory? And kudos to Brown and CNN for taking the journalistic high road and asking such questions rather than remaining silent on the matter and trying to take advantage of the White House attack on a competitor. UPDATE: 9:45 a.m. WEDNESDAY: I am about 60 comments behind, and posting them now. But scanning them, I see many commenters mocking Jarrett's use of the phrase "speaking truth to power." Yes, I agree, it deserves to be ridiculed in this context. What's the great power the White House is fearlessly standing up to -- a cable channel? I think such a phrase from our collective past that has real resonance because it was once loaded with such intergrity, moral authority and wisdom when first uttered, is cheapened when used in such a blantantly and inappropriate political context. Thanks for noticing, folks. http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/10/cnn_campbell_brown_valerie_jar.html )
Maybe the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate should toughen up his skin a bit and realize that not everyone is going to always agree with him. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 6:21:07 PM | Ready?
Valerie Jarrett is not a major news source.
Neither is Clusterfox.
See the word 'entertainment' in the address up^^^there?
BIG clue, that.
Clusterfox is an entertainment channel--and not a very good one, at that.
Blogs are not major news sources.
If they were, then there would be no discussion about Clusterfox being a real news source, cuz everyone and their grandma could be considered a news source.
Get it?
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 6:31:45 PM |
Is it really that hard to type "ACLU defends conservatives" into Google??? No. Neither is reading comprehension.
Apparently it is
I mentioned Fox and Humana. The ACLU is not defending either company.
And how... exactly... has any "right to free speech" been infringed?... have stations been shut down?... have editors or ceo's been jailed for thier speech?... where has any "right to free speech" been infringed?... What is there for the ACLU to defend against... exactly? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/28/2009 7:08:19 PM | The ACLU should have assisted Murduck with his right to Lie ............
Jane Akre and Steve Wilson were fired for not Lying .........
(Fox) argument "that the FCC's policy against the intentional falsification of the news -- which the FCC has called its "news distortion policy" -- does not qualify as the required "law, rule, or regulation" under section 448.102.[...] Because the FCC's news distortion policy is not a "law, rule, or regulation" under section 448.102
He won without the help of the ACLU..............
He can Fire a "NEWS REPORTER" when they won't LIE.................
FOX News.................
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