| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/28/2009 8:21:34 PM |
Blogs are not major news sources.
Apparently you did not follow the link provided. The clip was from CNN.
http://us.cnn.com/video/?/video/politics/2009/10/27/cb.sot.jarrett.fox.news.cnn
MSLSD is so far in the tank for Obama, it's nuttier than squirrel scat. Apparently if you in the tank for Obama, you are not biased.
What load of fertilizer.
Article/Video on FOX
Video - White House tries to ban Fox from Press Pool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlMILRyDRdM&feature=player_embedded
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/opinion/la-oe-anderson4oct04,0,1524980.story
Article on Humana
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204488304574427200839672342.html | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/28/2009 8:33:44 PM | Interesting that if Valarie Jarrett's opinion doesnt matter, why does the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate have her as one of his close advisors.
Jarrett is a Senior Advisor and Assistant to the President for Public Engagement and Intergovernmental Affairs for the Obama administration. Prior to that she served as a co-chairperson of the Obama-Biden Transition Project.http://www.squidoo.com/valeriejarrett
She has apparently been with Obama quite a long time now; since the Chicago days. Senior advisor doesnt really seem like just some flunky job. In fact Valerie Jarrett is the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate's Senior Advisor and seems to be one of the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate's strong supporters about FOX. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/28/2009 9:35:58 PM | We were discussing legitimate news sources. Valerie Jarrett is not a legitimate news source.
It seems that some don't know the difference between a person with an opinion-0r a blog site--and a legitimate news source.
It seems that some are trying to convince others that a blogger is a credible news source.
Fox is not a credible, legitimate news source for all of the reasons previously given.
What a sisyphusian task... | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/28/2009 10:38:37 PM | I guess now we are now calling CNN not a legitimate news source, especially when they interview the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate's Senior Advisor Valerie Jarrett on FOX news. (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/10/cnn_campbell_brown_valerie_jar.html )
One might want to take a full look at CNN video interview of Jarrett, especially when she gets all tongue tied when she realizes what she almost said about some other news media. CNN anchor Campbell Brown actually does a great job of cornering Jarrett on the WH's war with FOX.
I posted the comments that were with the video because it gave some valid arguments about the video of CNN anchor Campbell Brown's interview of Nobel Peace Prize Laureate's Senior Advisor.
Hey if the media does keep up the pace they are setting with this war the WH has declared on FOX , our great Nobel Peace Prize Laureate just might start calling them all "Non-News Organizations" too. Wonder what happens if all the news organizations start reporting some of the real news and just one item just happens to reflect a bit badly on our great Nobel Peace Prize Laureate?
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 5:05:02 AM |
I guess now we are now calling CNN not a legitimate news source, especially when they interview the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate's Senior Advisor Valerie Jarrett on FOX news. (http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/entertainment/zontv/2009/10/cnn_campbell_brown_valerie_jar.html )
So you're telling us that the blog of an entertaintment and tv critic is news?
Do you have ANY contribution beyond attempting to "throw grenades into the room and run"? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 5:35:52 AM | I am saying that some of his comments were valid as to the interview that CNN anchor person Campbell was doing of Jarrett. I could have just left them out or not. The main reason for including the site was for the video of the interview. . 
Here are similar comments from huffingtonpost and CNN's Interview with Jarret.
"CNN host Campbell Brown criticized the White House tonight for their accusations of bias at Fox News. During her "No Bias, No Bull" segment, Brown aired a clip of an interview with senior White House adviser Valerie Jarrett in which Jarrett was quick to label Fox News as biased but refused to do the same for MSNBC.
For Brown, this means that the White House has lost credibility in this argument because Fox News has been "upfront and pretty unapologetic" about their conservative bent in their prime time lineup, and MSNBC has a liberal slant to its prime time hosts. Brown then states what she sees as the "obvious":
Jarrett seems loath to admit that MSNBC has a bias. And that is where I think the White House loses all credibility on this issue. Just as Fox News leans to the right with their opinionated hosts in prime time, MSNBC leans left. I don't think anyone at Fox or MSNBC would disagree. In fact both Fox News and MSNBC are doing quite well in the prime time ratings by doing partisan opinion. That last part is perhaps a tender spot for CNN, as they have recently sunk to last place in the prime-time demographic. As for bias at Fox News and MSNBC, the White House, along with many others, would argue that the conservative leanings of their prime-time anchors have bled into their mainstream news coverage. Brown concludes that if the White House wants to enter the conversation of bias in the media, they need to discuss on both the right and the left." http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/28/campbell-brown-hits-white_n_337889.html | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 6:03:19 AM |
I guess now we are now calling CNN not a legitimate news source...
Seriously? Surely you can keep the posts separate.
What I said was something along the lines of, "...got to be effing kidding, right?!...you want us to accept a BLOG as a credible news source?!..."
Remember that? And then I said, "Valerie Jarrett is not a legitimate news source." Remember? It was just a few posts back...
And...really?...Campbell Brown? Really?
Here's the deal: You just go on and continue getting your 'news' from Fox, 'K? The rest of us will deal with the real world.
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 9:26:07 AM | Here's a perfect example of Faux's agenda: 75,000 march on washington (the same size of protest as the Faux sponsored tea bagger rallies) and Faux doesn't cover it at all -- But the day after an anti-Obama rally with zero protesters gets exclusive live coverage.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/14/jon-stewart-takes-on-fox_n_320287.html | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 1:19:49 PM | Seems that more and more the mainstream media is realizing just how stupid the WH's war on FOX is. Some in the mainstream media feel that this is show just how bias the Obama administration has become.
Given how Fox destroys MSNBC in the ratings, it appears the people have already made that decision. More importantly, the most poignant aspect of this segment was once again the look on Brown's face, for it's become clear in the past week or so that most of the mainstream media are realizing just how off-base the Adminstration is with this attack on Fox, and they're all beginning to have a problem hiding their embarrassment. With each passing day, it's becoming more and more apparent just how hapless this White House is, and the folks in the media who aided and abetted Obama's presidential campaign clearly are getting sickened by the trainwreck that's happening before their very eyes. If only they would have asked him some tough questions last year rather than being dazzled by his charm and overcome with a desire to help elect our nation's first black president maybe they wouldn't be acting so surprised by the lack of adequate attire adorning this exceedingly less than qualified emperor. http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2009/10/27/obama-adviser-tells-cnn-fox-biased-wont-comment-msnbc
And if the White House wants to leap into this debate, as they have, and talk about bias in the media, then great. But White House officials should elevate the conversation, and talk about bias on the right and on the left. Because when you just target one side, you reveal your own bias. That you are only critical of those who are critical of you.http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/10/fox-news-msnbc-cnn-campbell-brown.html | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 1:51:42 PM |
I am saying that some of his comments were valid as to the interview that CNN anchor person Campbell was doing of Jarrett. I could have just left them out or not. The main reason for including the site was for the video of the interview.
Instead of sourcing blogs for us... how about you acknowledge that simple right or left "bias" is not the primary point in this...
The primary point is FOX's efforts to pass off obvious lies and distortion as "news"... passing off non-existent "issues" as actual news... like "death panels", an "issue" which never actually existed as there never were "death panels" under consideration, just FOX's attempt to make it appear as if there were... or the "Obama's birth certificate", another invented "issue" that never really existed, as Obama would have HAD to meet ALL the legal requirements for candidacy just to get his name on the ballot, meaning that he met the LEGAL requirement for proof of eligibility, just another piece of made up "news" that FOX treated as a real news story...
Now... if you want to argue equal bias... perhaps you can show us where the "non-FOX" networks have run around inventing "news" about issues that never really existed outside the world of make believe...
It's NOT that FOX caters to a primarily conservative audience that is the issue... it is FOX's dishonest and deceitful efforts to promote fantasy and make believe as though it were REAL news rather than the gossip it actually is... | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 1:51:57 PM | .
Does anyone really care about Fox?.......................
It is funny to watch these clowns try to be relevant. How many non issues are there?
How about that Tea Party Express? Whats this Judgment crap?
Vegetarian school lunches are a Commie Fascist Plot?
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 1:55:20 PM |
Seems that more and more the mainstream media is realizing just how stupid the WH's war on FOX is. No people saying that the WH has declared war on Fox is stupid and sounds like a tactic fox would use to garner viewers and sympathy for its cause.
Some in the mainstream media feel that this is show just how bias the Obama administration has become. Noel Sheppard does not represent the main stream media.
Given how Fox destroys MSNBC in the ratings, it appears the people have already made that decision. Great, so that proves that more people watch fox than msnbc.
Does it prove that fox is not a completely bias station? No
Does it prove that any news organization is not bias in some way? No
It does prove though that people will see others as bias when they views expressed do not support their own beliefs. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 3:14:27 PM | Seems that since Obama and his WH clowns started the Battle FOX ratings have increased over 13% 
So it seems that Obama's war with FOX or just maybe the lack of other networks to report the news FOX is gaining monetarily and viewer wise.
Looks like FOX is the one doing the Laughing....Laughing all the way to the BANK
And now it seems that the mainstream media is getting tired of the WH politics. Maybe the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate should toughen up a bit for it looks like its going to be a long hard road ahead. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 3:29:20 PM | Liberals have been used to viewing heavily liberal biased networks that pander to them and their point of view. The coverage of the Rush Limbaughs bid for the St. Louis Rams is a good example of liberal bias.
CNN and MSNBC among others falsely attributed racist comments comments to Limbaugh but when their falsehoods were revealed, many of them did not retract their statements.
http://www.mrc.org/splash/TellTheTruth.htm
The coverage of the presidential election is another glaring example.
Now the fact that many here will claim their is no bias in the media, is clearly an example of their own bias.
The Fox show Hannity and Colmes (He is still with Fox) showed both sides of an issue well.
Fox is also a target of the left because of it's massive success. ALL of the top 10 cable news shows are on Fox! The American people are voting whose news they prefer in droves.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/30/fox-news-dominates-3q-200_n_304260.html
As the NY Times and other liberal papers are facing their demise. Obama is talking about bailing them out too. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 3:51:31 PM | Seems that since Obama and his WH clowns started the Battle FOX ratings have increased over 13% Back to "throwing grenades into the room and running" are we?
Will you address the actual issue here...? This issue...
The primary point is FOX's efforts to pass off obvious lies and distortion as "news"... passing off non-existent "issues" as actual news... like "death panels", an "issue" which never actually existed as there never were "death panels" under consideration, just FOX's attempt to make it appear as if there were... or the "Obama's birth certificate", another invented "issue" that never really existed, as Obama would have HAD to meet ALL the legal requirements for candidacy just to get his name on the ballot, meaning that he met the LEGAL requirement for proof of eligibility, just another piece of made up "news" that FOX treated as a real news story...
Now... if you want to argue equal bias... perhaps you can show us where the "non-FOX" networks have run around inventing "news" about issues that never really existed outside the world of make believe... Can you show us where the others, the "liberal bias" networks, do the same...?
Can you show us where networks other than FOX simply "make sh*t up" and present it as "news"?
I'm not holding my breath waiting... | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 4:11:43 PM | Seems like the longer Barack Hussein Obama and his WH administration rage their war on FOX news the more the WH seems to be getting more and more criticism. Every day some other media picks up on this issue and sees how it is negatively affecting how people are viewing Obama's role as president.
Obama’s war on ‘Fox lies’ may backfire WASHINGTON, Oct 29 — Wild conspiracy theories about the overthrow of the American way of life by the Europeanised liberal left are the staple of conservative talk shows. The Obama administration’s panicky response — a ‘blackout’ of Fox News — is a huge miscalculation, however. Analysts say it will only give more legitimacy to the talk show ranters and raise awkward questions about the White House’s news management skills and President Barack Obama’s leadership style. Fox News is the home of Obama critics Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity and others. The White House has watched with rising alarm the increasing shrillness of their commentary, especially since Fox News gets a larger prime time audience than CNN and MSNBC combined. The White House media managers seemed to have thought a pre-emptive strike was a good idea, especially given Obama’s wilting job approval ratings. Key Bills need to be pushed through a sharply split Congress; Obama’s party is weakly positioned for the Congressional elections next year; and the Obama White House fears the conservatives might whip up further rounds of frenzy, as they did three months ago over Obama’s health-care reforms. http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/world/41704-obamas-war-on-fox-lies-may-backfire | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 4:26:21 PM | ,
The coverage of the Rush Limbaughs bid for the St. Louis Rams is a good example of liberal bias.
Liberal Bias>>>>>>>>>.
Obama is "Halfrican-American." On January 24, 2007
"Barack, The Magic Negro." On March 19, 2007,
Limbaugh suggests Obama would not have acted on Somali pirates if he'd known they were "actually young, black Muslim teenagers." On April 14,
"We are being told that we have to hope [Obama] succeeds, that we have to bend over, grab the ankles ... because his father was black." After Obama's inauguration,
"I do believe" Obama is an "angry black guy." july 27
Obama is the "greatest living example of a reverse racist and now he's appointed one." On his May 29
"[I]n Obama's America, the white kids now get beat up with the black kids cheering." On September 15,
"Obama's entire economic program is reparations." On June 22,
Obama is "more African in his roots than he is American" and is "behaving like an African colonial despot." jun 22
"God does not have a birth certificate. Neither does Obama"; Obama "has yet to prove he's a citizen."
"Obama has disowned his white half ... he's decided he's got to go all in on the black side." On March 21, 2008,
Sotomayor "a reverse racist" appointed by Obama, "the greatest living example of a reverse racist." On May 26,
Limbaugh compared Sotomayor's nomination to nominating David Duke, a former Ku Klux Klan member, and said the way to "get promoted in the Barack Obama administration" is "by hating white people." May 29
Obama "wants us to have the same health care and plan that he had in Kenya" and "wants to be the black FDR." On August 24,
"you can't criticize the little black man-child."
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 4:36:14 PM | ^^^^^^^^^ How about citing all of these references? Prove that he said them. That's what good journalists are supposed to do.
They didn't do their homework which admittedly may be due in part to the poor public school education the liberals made them receive. Do you see now why school choice is so important? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 4:41:32 PM | Seems like the longer Barack Hussein Obama and his WH administration rage their war on FOX news the more the WH seems to be getting more and more criticism. Every day some other media picks up on this issue and sees how it is negatively affecting how people are viewing Obama's role as president. They are not raging a war on fox news.
Once again fox news is creating something out of nothing so they can continue to make money from the weak minded.
Keith Rupert Murdoch would never let the facts get in the way of a good story.
Or
Maybe there is a war and it is a war on people that use his full name, when they know they are doing it in a backhanded, racists, cowardly and insulting way. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 4:42:16 PM | Fox News is definately a legitimate news organization. You may not enjoy watching it and that is your choice but to claim it isn't a legit news channel is totally a lie. It's as big a lie as the one Joe Wilson so eloquently pointed out about Obama the other day  | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 4:54:25 PM |
How about citing all of these references? Prove that he said them. That's what good journalists are supposed to do. Here is the original source
"101 People Who Are Really Screwing America" by Jack Huberman.
Huberman's response was (as detailed by the Post-Dispatch)...
"When contacted by the Post-Dispatch, Huberman said that he had a source for the quote but declined to reveal it on advice of counsel. The book's publisher, Nation Books, did not return calls to the Post-Dispatch.
The Post-Dispatch found references attributing the quote to Limbaugh in other publications and on Internet blogs as far back as 1993, but none of those cited a source."
Now, perhaps Huberman made it up 3 years ago when he wrote the book... except references to it go back 13 years prior to that... the quote has been floating around for 16 years... published even, in more than one publication... and not a peep about slander/libel from Limbaugh for 16 years...
So... your accusation does not amount to them "making sh*t up" and reporting it as news... the original attributor claims a source... so, until HE has been shown to have "made sh*t up" about the quote... or his source... well, you get the point I'm sure...
Now... let's see something on par with "death panels" or the "not a natural-born American" nonsense... all of which is provably false... or any of the other "made up sh*t" passed off a "news"... | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 5:03:28 PM |
"When contacted by the Post-Dispatch, Huberman said that he had a source for the quote but declined to reveal it on advice of counsel. The book's publisher, Nation Books, did not return calls to the Post-Dispatch.
That is very convenient indeed. Limbaughs shows are taped. Where are the tapes?
the original attributor claims a source...
Quoting a highly unreliable source is hardly excusable.
Huberman has also written the books Bushit and The Bush-Hater Handbook, edited the book The Quotable Atheist, and has titled his weblog “Well to the Left of Attila the Hun.” But he was an agreeable source for the liberal media. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 10/29/2009 5:09:48 PM | This whole thread is fascinating in a 'can you believe what she's wearing?!' kind of way. The issue is not who has more viewers--despite what some people think--the issue is whether or not ClusterFox is a legitimate news source.
Regardless of the many, many blogs one cites to the contrary, ClusterFox is not a news source--they make the news, they don't report the news, and that takes them out of the running.
But--hey--if you're spending time researching ClusterFox to prove they're legit, at least it keeps you off the boards. | |
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