| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:32:12 PM |
You really need to get the news from FOX. The liberal media is obfuscating the truth.
Here is the video of Dunn saying Mao is one of her favorite philosophers.
My question would be....so? I read what she said and it involves embracing ideas from Mao (and Mother Theresa, btw) about self-determination and individual agency, NOT social and political policy..... although I'm sure that in Glenn Beck's little brain all philosophers' ideas can be reduced to single elements (i.e., to the simple-minded, Mao=communism and nothing else). If someone says he or she admires Thomas Jefferson should the response be: "Jefferson=slave owner, therefore any admirer of his is EVIL"?
And anyway, how is this "news" ? Is there more to the story than "Woman admires Mao?"
This is the stuff of cheap, tabloid sensationalism....in aid of McCarthy-style persecution ("by god we're going to drive ALL of these subversive learning types OUT OUT OUT!!!"). It is NOT news.
Frankly, I would bet that Beck despises ALL philosophy (apart from a distorted, uber-reactionary Christianity) as elite intellectualism--thus, to him and his type, all those who bother to read it (and maybe LEARN something in the process) are OBVIOUSLY dangerous. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:01:42 PM | for I very much doubt that it was Michelle doing all that work during her busy schedule.
And you can confirm that... a news story...? personal relationship with the first lady...? or is this just a guess pulled from a normally dark place...?
Oh... wait... I didn't see ths part...
....Talk about exaggerations, or mistruths.
I see some have learned the lesson of FOX... just "make sh*t up" because... well, just because ... and, apparently, "lobbing grenades" is a skill that must be practiced...
I've also noticed that no-one has yet been able to rise to the challenge... something on par with FOX's "made up sh*t"... "pull the plug on Granny"...? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:10:22 PM | You really need to get the news from FOX. The liberal media is obfuscating the truth.
Here is the video of Dunn saying Mao is one of her favorite philosophers.
And that is "worshipping Mao" on what planet...? other than "planet FOX"...
P.T. Barnum was right... and after 8 years of Bush... that's how many minutes...?
... And still you haven't risen to the challenge... Am I surprised...? is anyone, really...? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:39:12 PM |
When Anita Dunn praises Mao, a genocidal maniac as a role model, (he killed 70 million) it turns off some Americans. Go figure.
Again... that is "worshipping Mao" on which planet...?
That changes FOX's history of "making sh*t up"... fake "news"... in what way...?
And, once again... still haven't risen to the challenge... have we...? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/30/2009 6:48:01 PM | So basically Glenn shows a video of Dunn saying Mao is one of her two favorite philosophers and one of the two people she turns to most.
Sounds like Dunn in her speech says she highly respects Mao quite a bit just by those two statements.
This kind of deflates the statement that Glenn lied about Dunn.
Actually you dont have to watch that much of the video to hear Dunn make those statements.
http://www.eyeblast.tv/public/video.aspx?v=GdSUSUqG2G | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/30/2009 7:15:33 PM | So basically Glenn shows a video of Dunn saying Mao is one of her two favorite philosophers and one of the two people she turns to most.
Sounds like Dunn in her speech says she highly respects Mao quite a bit just by those two statements.
And yet... there are still no comments of "worship"... except from FOX... attributing a "worship" which was never stated is still... wait for it... "made up sh*t"... a lie...
This kind of deflates the statement that Glenn lied about Dunn.
On which planet...? A falsehood is still a lie... moreso when it is a known lie...
Let's put Dunn's quote out there and see... is worship a lie...?
The third lesson and tip actually comes from two of my favorite political philosophers: Mao Zedong and Mother Theresa -- not often coupled with each other, but the two people I turn to most to basically deliver a simple point which is: you're going to make choices; you're going to challenge; you're going to say why not; you're going to figure out how to do things that have never been done before. But here's the deal: These are your choices, they are no one else's. In 1947, when Mao Zedong was being challenged within his own party on his plan to basically take China over. Chiang Kai-shek and the Nationalist Chinese held the cities, they had the army, they had the air force, they had everything on their side. And people said, "How can you win? How can you do this? How can you do this, against all of the odds against you?" And Mao Zedong said, you know, "You fight your war, and I'll fight mine." And think about that for a second. You don't have to accept the definition of how to do things and you don't have to follow other peoples choices and paths. Ok? It is about your choices and your path. You fight your own war, you lay out your own path, you figure out what's right for you. You don't let external definition define how good you are internally, you fight your war, you let them fight theirs. Everybody has their own path.
Anita Dunn june 5, 2009
Worship...? or the source of an object lesson of great value...?
As I said... a falsehood is still a lie... moreso when it is a known lie...
And... it seems that you can't rise to meet the challenge either... a good defense still won't score points... and a bad defense, like the one responded to here, won't stop the 'other side' from scoring... no offense and bad defense makes a lost game. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/30/2009 11:02:23 PM |
I always wondered why Quebec wants to secede from Canada. Now I know.
Ahhh... so you DO understand what Dunn said...
...You do get...
You don't have to accept the definition of how to do things and you don't have to follow other peoples choices and paths. Ok? It is about your choices and your path. You fight your own war, you lay out your own path, you figure out what's right for you. You don't let external definition define how good you are internally, you fight your war, you let them fight theirs. Everybody has their own path.
I was beginning to wonder for a moment... This message seems to be SO in keeping with the ideals of the Founding Fathers... with America...
...And expressed SO eloquently by... wait for it... Mao, "The Glorious Chairman" as they used to say... with such simple words...
"You fight your war, and I'll fight mine."
... in answer to seemingly insurmountable challenges... an answer that epitomizes the fabled "American Way"...
That American conservatives should despise these values so much as to use them to vilify... to denigrate because of a name... proves another famous Mao quote...
"All reactionaries are paper tigers."
Chairman Mao, August 1946
... And it serves only to highlight the deceit and lies of FOX... that they would use such revered "American values"... as a source of vilification and denigration...
Which brings me to...
""Lifting a rock only to drop it on one's own feet" is a Chinese folk saying to describe the behavior of certain fools. The reactionaries in all countries are fools of this kind."
Chairman Mao, November 1957 | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/30/2009 11:29:45 PM | Mao is one of the few people I would have no trouble in dispatching out of the mortal coil without any regrets.
Mao is some genocidal maniac who wrote the little red book. It's not very impressive.
Since we do have a first amendment in America ,unlike many other countries, I don't object to MSLSD, the Washington Compost and other Liberal media outlets.
What I do object to is others who wish to censor the free press. If you don't like FOX the answer is not to watch it, not to advocate censorship.
I think the American people are voting with their TV remote control and switching to FOX | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 8:19:27 AM |
What I do object to is others who wish to censor the free press. If you don't like FOX the answer is not to watch it, not to advocate censorship.
I think the American people are voting with their TV remote control and switching to FOX
This is so Very True.
During the elections, and beginning of the year Fox was pretty much just hanging in there with all the other cable news networks. Yet as Obama's ratings went down, FOX News's ratings started going up. As FOX News's Ratings went up Obama and the WH house I think realized that it was not going to be so easy to play the Pied Piper with America, for many were starting to see the Obama for who he really was just some empty political suit.
When the Obama, the WH administration and some elected Democrats decided to pretty much declare war on FOX during the summer time FOX News's ratings really went flying upward.
The people have spoken with their remote controls against Obama and his cronies.
If Obama and the elected Democrats don't start treating their constituents like they matter, they are going to soon find out that the ballot boxes can turn to in 2010. Many people who voted for Obama and voted Democratic were singled in the Tea Parties, the Town hall meetings and the 9/12 march. Guess that would be an interesting war by Obama and the WH--Censor the Ballot Boxes. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 8:49:40 AM | A valiant attempt at sounding eloquent.
What it comes down to is this: Fox makes (up) the news, they
don't report the news, therefore, they are not a credible news source.
Period.
So many of the posts in this thread are exemplary of why Fox has any
ratings at all--people love a good train wreck.
People also either don't know how, or they simply refuse to, gather facts.
Facts.
Something entirely foreign to ClusterFox(NOT)theNews.
I guess watching Fox is easier than reading... | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 8:53:04 AM |
Mao is one of the few people I would have no trouble in dispatching out of the mortal coil without any regrets.
Mao is some genocidal maniac who wrote the little red book. It's not very impressive.
This is entirely reactionary. There is no thinking going on here. Tell me--when did YOU read Mao's "little red book"...or, indeed...any of his TEN OTHER books?
You may not LIKE Mao, but to many Chinese he remains entirely beloved. He was a revolutionary and philosopher of extraordinary depth and breadth, and as such he has enduring significance. This thread isn't about Mao and I'm certainly not going to give you a history lesson about his importance....but if he was anything, impressive is one of them.
And while his regime in China was certainly OPPRESSIVE--and witnessed quite horrible and murderous political purges--it was NOT genocidal.
Since we do have a first amendment in America ,unlike many other countries, I don't object to MSLSD, the Washington Compost and other Liberal media outlets.
What I do object to is others who wish to censor the free press. If you don't like FOX the answer is not to watch it, not to advocate censorship.
No, you just wish to censor thought and its expression.
I don't believe that anyone here is trying to CENSOR Fox (although I personally feel that Beck skates pretty close to criminal behavior in some of his broadcasts). No, they just shouldn't call themselves NEWS. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 9:02:02 AM | No, you just wish to censor thought and its expression.
I don't believe that anyone here is trying to CENSOR Fox (although I personally feel that Beck skates pretty close to criminal behavior in some of his broadcasts). No, they just shouldn't call themselves NEWS.
And that is the entire point of this thread.
Those who rely on Fox are a bit like this:
"We think too small, like the frog at the bottom of the well. He thinks the sky is only as big as the top of the well. If he surfaced, he would have an entirely different view."
Seek a broader view.
and credit Mao with the quote. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 9:26:43 AM | Looks like Faux is starting to cave under White House pressure and has had to admit that the Faux cable channel subdivides its programming into news sections and entertainment sections:
"its news hours — 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. and 6 to 8 p.m. on weekdays"
www.nytimes.com/2009/10/12/business/media/12fox.html
This division of its "news" programing and its "entertainment" program means two things
1) The major viewer share that Faux fans love to hype comes from the evening "entertainment" programing. Supporting the common inference that these veiwers are watching not because they are being informed but because they are being entertained .
2) Faux has created an incetuous relationship between its news programming and its entertainment programming. A Faux 'news anchor' reports on a major breaking story that everyone should keep an eye on, then the entertainment host comes on and makes 'commentary' about the programing, and a couple of hours later another 'news anchor' comes on and reports how the story has grown because some people {read Faux's own employees} are saying how bad this issue is and how we are all going to be turned into communists by it, etc, etc, etc. . . and the incestuous cycle continues.
This is an incredible defeat for Faux causing some people to speculate on the integrity of this once powerful cable outlet.
. . . Dasein reporting for POF news.
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 9:38:55 AM | Interesting enough the ratings speak for themselves. Fox apparently has opened the public's eyes to many news events that other news media has not.
Any fox viewer will admit that a good percentage of the evening commentators are a somewhat slanted to the right. You have to remember they are commentators, unlike the ABC, CBS and NBC reporters that have become more of commentators themselves than reporters.
It used to be one would report on the news and just give it to the nation for one to make a judgement call on. That is no longer true of any of the national news stations.
So right now it just depends which side of the fence on is on and what one wants to call news.
As for the Major News Networks, they all seem to add in their bit of commentary slanted one way or the other. Usually the slant with most are to the left and with Fox its just happens to be to the right.
As said earlier in this thread it seems that the remote control has spoken and is speaking quite loudly lately when one looks at the ratings of the Cable News Networks.
Fox News' Glenn Beck strikes ratings gold by challenging Barack Obama
His show is averaging 2.2 million viewers, a remarkable amount for an afternoon time slot. 'I look at the ratings every day shocked,' he says. http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-et-foxnews6-2009mar6,0,7034462.story?track=rss
Just maybe those so opposed to Fox should start supporting the other cable networks, or are there enough left to make a difference? Remember the Remote Control can say a lot. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 9:57:57 AM | As said earlier in this thread it seems that the remote control has spoken and is speaking quite loudly
Yup, the people have spoken where they want to get their 'real' news from:
NBC's "Nightly News" topped the evening newscasts with an average of 8.8 million viewers (5.7, 11). ABC's "World News" was second with 7.7 million (5.2, 10) and the "CBS Evening News" had 5.9 million viewers (4.1, 8).
http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/wireStory?id=8874568
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 10:24:13 AM |
Mao is one of the few people I would have no trouble in dispatching out of the mortal coil without any regrets.
Mao is some genocidal maniac who wrote the little red book. It's not very impressive.
Since we do have a first amendment in America ,unlike many other countries, I don't object to MSLSD, the Washington Compost and other Liberal media outlets.
What I do object to is others who wish to censor the free press. If you don't like FOX the answer is not to watch it, not to advocate censorship.
I think the American people are voting with their TV remote control and switching to FOX
This is so Very True.
During the elections, and beginning of the year Fox was pretty much just hanging in there with all the other cable news networks. Yet as Obama's ratings went down, FOX News's ratings started going up. As FOX News's Ratings went up Obama and the WH house I think realized that it was not going to be so easy to play the Pied Piper with America, for many were starting to see the Obama for who he really was just some empty political suit.
When the Obama, the WH administration and some elected Democrats decided to pretty much declare war on FOX during the summer time FOX News's ratings really went flying upward.
The people have spoken with their remote controls against Obama and his cronies.
If Obama and the elected Democrats don't start treating their constituents like they matter, they are going to soon find out that the ballot boxes can turn to in 2010. Many people who voted for Obama and voted Democratic were singled in the Tea Parties, the Town hall meetings and the 9/12 march. Guess that would be an interesting war by Obama and the WH--Censor the Ballot Boxes.
And again... the question is evaded...the challenge unmet... you just can't match "pull the plug on Granny"... the dreidel is brought out early this year...
...and still the challenge is unmet...
not to advocate censorship.
And you bring us back to my first question... still unanswered...
And how... exactly... has any "right to free speech" been infringed?... have stations been shut down?... have editors or ceo's been jailed for thier speech?... where has any "right to free speech" been infringed?
... Simply saying something without basis does not make it so... claiming censorship without demonstrating how it is so does not make the censorship a reality...
... So again... Where is the abridgement...? How has FOX been censored, even in the "made up sh*t"... the fake "news"...? What is the infringement you speak of...?
...Or do we add this too to the list of unmet challenges...? | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 10:29:33 AM |
I don't believe that anyone here is trying to CENSOR Fox (although I personally feel that Beck skates pretty close to criminal behavior in some of his broadcasts). No, they just shouldn't call themselves NEWS.
I think we have an issue here. There are two branches at Fox: News and Commentary. Glenn Beck is a commentator. So is Hannity. Only a fool can't tell the difference between news and commentary.
News - Just the facts
Commentary - Talk about the News stories, make judgments, explore the meaning of the news stories.
MSNBC is as biased as they come.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJirJKPLnmc&feature=player_embedded | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 10:40:45 AM |
MSNBC is a PREMIUM channel now....
That actually depends on what cable company or satellite program you have. It is pretty standard with most of the Satellite(dish and direct). Satellite companies are taking over the cable companies lately(another thread).
So let's take look at the recent ratings between MSNBC and FOX.
FOX averaged 1,255,000 viewers and MSNBC had 696, 000 total viewers.
Then there is CNN, in a poor third with 674,000 viewers.
Add the two together and you do get a bit more than the number of people who watched FOX.
Fox News Ratings Undamaged By White House War
In total day, Fox News averaged1,255,000 total viewers, up from 1,194,000 the week before and enough to rank as the #6 network in cable for the week. This may have been a result of the "Balloon Boy" coverage, which Fox News — anchored by Shep Smith — won by a wide margin.
MSNBC ranked #27 in primetime with 696,000 total viewers, while CNN came in at #28 with 674,000. In total day, CNN ranked #25 with 511,000 total viewers, while MSNBC did not place in the top 30.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/10/21/fox-news-ratings-undamage_n_329299.html
Remote controls do seem to be speaking out against the WH's war on FOX !!!
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization
Posted: 10/31/2009 10:51:12 AM | .
Lets see what happens to ratings when Fox goes Premium ...
Depending on cable or Sat.......
What I do object to is others who wish to censor the free press. If you don't like FOX the answer is not to watch it, not to advocate censorship.
Beck and Fox seem to be against free speech...........
How many Beck lawyers attemped to shut down a web site they don't like?>>>>>>>>>>
glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com
Why doesn't Beck address the issue?
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