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 pirateheaven

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Posted: 10/31/2009 11:10:30 AM

How many Beck lawyers attemped to shut down a web site they don't like?>>>>>>>>>>

glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com

Why doesn't Beck address the issue?



This from the site itself


Although the vast majority of visitors get the joke, a small minority don't. I keep trying to make it clearer and clearer without ruining it for everybody else. Well, this section is now written for you.

First of all, we're not actually accusing anyone of rape and/or murder. We didn't chose the nature of this meme (see the "origin" links to see where it came from on Fark, and the origin of the 'rape and murder' idea from the Roast of Bob Saget, where Gilbert Gottfried performed).

Second of all, we're not trying in any way to spread any rumours that anyone might have raped or murdered. The entire point is that it's so over the top that it should be clear that anyone believing such a stupid rumour is a moron. And anyone thinking we're trying to sully Beck's name in that manner isn't understanding what we're here to do
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 10/31/2009 11:13:52 AM
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Seems like Beck should address the issue.... Or ignore it....

Not send Lawyers to shut them down....

Free speech?

Shut down sites you don't like.... Bully them with lawyers....
 mungojoe

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Posted: 10/31/2009 11:22:29 AM

News - Just the facts

And that explains why FOX fires employees who refuse to lie... who refuse to "make sh*t up" to 'sex up' a story... who insist on reporting "the facts, just the facts"... Akre and Wilson...?

...And admit to doing so while arguing there is "no law" against creating fake "news"... "making sh*t up"...

..."Just the facts"...? Don't you mean to say "Just the "made up sh*t""... ?

Now... back to our regularly scheduled programming... "Meet the Challenge"...
 killene

Joined: 3/28/2009
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Posted: 10/31/2009 11:27:01 AM

Seems like Beck should address the issue.... Or ignore it....
Not send Lawyers to shut them down....
Free speech?
Shut down sites you don't like.... Bully them with lawyers....


Interesting Concept --- Which someone on another more conservative site I was reading on, had an interesting agrument for.

Why doesn't Obama address his Birth Certificate Issue instead of Sending his lawyers out to fight it?

Now back on topic. ---- Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II, his WH administration and some of the elected democrats have declared war on FOX.

Primary reason for this is because they are bringing up issues Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II does not really want the American people to know about. Plus Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II cannot seem tolerate anyone that does not go lockstep with him.

If people would notice FOX News Network is not the only one on the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II, his WH administration and some of the elected democrats' enemies list. As the Obama administration keeps pushing through agendas that people in America are not liking the list appears to be getting longer.

Interesting enough Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II, his WH administration and some of the elected democrats' enemies list seems to grow bigger as Obama's popularity wanes.

Its not really paying for Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II, his WH administration and some of the elected democrats to create a list like this and ostracize so many people and organizations.
 pirateheaven

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Posted: 10/31/2009 11:27:33 AM

Seems like Beck should address the issue.... Or ignore it....

Not send Lawyers to shut them down....

Free speech?

Shut down sites you don't like.... Bully them with lawyers....


There is a difference between libel and free speech. I have not seen this site before today so I cannot comment on it's content prior to that. It could be Beck had some issue with prior content.

It seems plausible given the front page, that some people may have thought that this event REALLY took place.

Now the site seems to be satirical in nature, and that would be protected as free speech.
 cotter

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Posted: 10/31/2009 11:47:39 AM

Why doesn't Obama address his Birth Certificate Issue instead of Sending his lawyers out to fight it?
You mean Orly Taitz still hasn't gotten that straightened out for (cluster) Faux Noise? I thought (cluster) Faux Noise admitted that claiming the birth certificate wasn't official was just a ploy for attention? So the birthers are still alive and kicking?


Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II ...
Wow ... it's been stepped up a bit. The hate is really festering. Be careful ... it's liable to eat you alive ...

Looks like the haters and truthers are also still out there?

Huh ... who would of thought that?

Interesting enough Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II, his WH administration and some of the elected democrats' enemies list seems to grow bigger as Obama's popularity wanes.
OBAMA is no longer "popular"?

OT...
If (cluster) Faux Noise is not welcome at press conferences ... there is probably a good reason.
 mungojoe

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Posted: 10/31/2009 12:15:38 PM

There is a difference between libel and free speech.

Really...? a difference...? How about you tell us just WHAT that difference is...?

Primary reason for this is because they are bringing up issues Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II does not really want the American people to know about.

Playing at being FOX...? Issues that are being suppressed...? REAL issues....? Not just "made up sh*t" or fake "news"...?

What issues...? Can you tell us what they are....? or is this just more "grenades lobbed into the room"...?
 a bit nomadic

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Posted: 10/31/2009 12:18:04 PM

Why doesn't Obama address his Birth Certificate Issue instead of Sending his lawyers out to fight it?

Now back on topic. ---- Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II, his WH administration and some of the elected democrats have declared war on FOX.

Primary reason for this is because they are bringing up issues Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II does not really want the American people to know about. Plus Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II cannot seem tolerate anyone that does not go lockstep with him.

If people would notice FOX News Network is not the only one on the Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II, his WH administration and some of the elected democrats' enemies list. As the Obama administration keeps pushing through agendas that people in America are not liking the list appears to be getting longer.

Interesting enough Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II, his WH administration and some of the elected democrats' enemies list seems to grow bigger as Obama's popularity wanes.

Its not really paying for Nobel Peace Prize Laureate Barack Hussein Obama II, his WH administration and some of the elected democrats to create a list like this and ostracize so many people and organizations.


I don't know who wrote this, since you quoted it in from someone else's comments on another discussion board, but whoever wrote it is a racist.... and obviously pretty stupid.

Of course, that's exactly the demographic (stupid racists) that Fox deliberately targets....so no big surprise there.
 killene

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Posted: 10/31/2009 12:45:17 PM
Looks like the depiction of Obama by other news media and news organizations is now not too pro Obama and its not just FOX .

Snip

Tony Blankley, who once served as press secretary to former House Speaker Newt Gingrich, noted on CNN:
"Going after a news organization, in my experience, is always a loser. They have a big audience. And Fox has an audience of not just conservatives – they've got liberals and moderates who watch too. They've got Obama supporters who are watching. So it's a temptation for a politician, but it needs to be resisted."
Last week, Fox News was informed by the White House that Obama would grant no interviews to the channel until at least 2010. The edict was relayed to Fox News by a White House official after Dunn discussed the channel at a meeting with Gibbs and other Obama advisers.
Even that left-wing journal The Nation ridiculed the Obama press operation for turning Obama into "whiner in chief."http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=113424


It is also looking like FOX is becoming one of the hot questions to put to Gibbs, who trys to avoid them when he can or skirt the issue. So it seems that the media is not going to let the WH get away with this..
 geeleebee

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Posted: 10/31/2009 1:11:42 PM
Yes, let's quote from TheNation:
October 21, 2009


...What all these critics fail to address is that the administration's argument is right on the merits. Fox's pretense of being an actual news network is hardly more convincing than, say, Milton Berle in a bra and garters posing as a woman. By refusing to acknowledge Fox's open and avowed partisanship, its MSM defenders are not only flacking for Ailes & Co.; they're diminishing the work of honest journalists who try to play fair. Ask yourself:

§ Would a genuine news network reproduce a Republican press release, replete with typos?

§ Would a genuine news network run, over a five-day period, twenty-two excerpts from healthcare forums in which every single speaker was opposed?

§ Would a genuine news network allow a producer to cheerlead, off camera, anti-Obama protesters?

§ Would a genuine news network take out full-page ads to complain of insufficient coverage of antigovernment protest marches it had promoted?

§ Would a genuine news network run the following headlines, trumpeting each story as a "Fox Nation Victory"?

Senate Removes 'End of Life' Provision

Congress Delays Health Care Rationing Bill

Anti-Tea Party Reporter Dumped by CNN

Obama's Drive for Climate Change Bill Delayed

Obama's 'Green Czar' Resigns

(Note: I have not had to quote the lunatic ravings of Messrs. Beck, Hannity or O'Reilly to make my case.)

Fox is not a news organization; it is a propaganda outlet, and an extremist one at that. Is it any wonder that according to survey after survey, Fox News viewers are among the worst informed Americans when it comes to politics, despite their obsessive interest? A recent study by Democracy Corps finds that this audience believes "Obama is deliberately and ruthlessly advancing a 'secret agenda' to bankrupt our country and dramatically expand government control over all aspects of our daily lives," with the ultimate goal of "the destruction of the United States as it was conceived by our founders and developed over the past 200 years."

There is something to be said for collecting all the crazies in one place. As conservative pundit Reihan Salam argued on behalf of the nuttiness of Glenn Beck, his value lies in the fact that "he's a kind of national therapist for some of America's craziest people, few of whom are willing to go in for professional help." And so it's nice that ABC's John Stossel has migrated to his natural home at Fox and Lou Dobbs is said to be in talks to take his racist rants over there as well.

But the danger increases when the rest of the media allow this particularly swine-ish flu to infect their news operations, and this is the White House's legitimate concern. Why was George Stephanopoulos taking up valuable time in his interview with the President of the United States badgering him about ACORN? ("George, this is not the biggest issue facing the country. It's not something I'm paying a lot of attention to," was Obama's entirely appropriate response.) And why did Stephanopoulos persistently pester the president, in the same interview, about whether a transformational reform of our dysfunctional healthcare system--which is on its way to eating up 20 percent of the entire GDP--could be reduced to the Republican-friendly sound bite "a tax increase"? (Is it surprising that the interview made its way into an RNC attack ad the very next week?) Is the fear of Fox making its way through ABC's corporate bloodstream? Recently David Axelrod appeared on Stephanopoulos's program and schooled him on the stakes involved: "It's really not news--it's pushing a point of view. And...other news organizations like yours ought not to treat them that way."

I suppose we can be grateful that Obama has not been asked lately about his flag pin; but it's a sad day when our big media pooh-bahs need instruction on the values and responsibilities of their own profession by political operatives. No one's asking to censor Fox, but a little shame and scorn ought to go a long way. This, thankfully, is one of the concurrent crises facing the profession that journalists can fix all by themselves, and perhaps restore a bit of their self-respect in the process. http://www.thenation.com/doc/20091109/alterman


So, I agree with TheNation's assessment of ClusterFox--it's not a news source.
AND--Obama was right when he called them out.
 mungojoe

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Posted: 10/31/2009 1:41:02 PM

So, I agree with TheNation's assessment of ClusterFox--it's not a news source.
AND--Obama was right when he called them out.

Of course that is all correct...

It's why the FOX defenders can't meet the challenges made here... it's why they can't show "made up sh*t" and fake "news" from other major sources that match FOX in it's egregious and deliberate falseness...

It's why they can't back-up thier claims of "censorship", 1st Amendment infringements...

It's why they can't dispute FOX's admitted claim to a "right to "make sh*t up" and pass it off as news"... it's why they can't defend FOX's firing of personnel for refusing to "make sh*t up"...

It's why they can't defend quotes such as...


"We paid $3 billion for these television stations. We will decide what the news is. The news is what we tell you it is."

Remarks of David Boylin, FOX network station manager, as contained in Akre's and Wilson's court filing

It's why they have no defense of FOX beyond irrelevancies... beyond parroting "made up sh*t"... beyond merely "throwing grenades into the room and running"...
 etourdi77

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Posted: 10/31/2009 3:05:50 PM
Not exactly ....the problem is that the Left doesn't know the difference between entertainment and news...O'Reilly, Hannity ,Rush,Beck not News ...Thats like saying Maddow and Olberman are news sources....

The left is simply trying to discredit FOX because FOX has uncovered some things that have made the Obama administration look like the Far Left Radical group that it is, and they have been trying so hard to hide their true nature from main stream America...

As far as First amendment infringement and censorship, just look at it like playing chess....have to move your pawns into position first.....
 mungojoe

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Posted: 10/31/2009 3:18:55 PM

As far as First amendment infringement and censorship, just look at it like playing chess....have to move your pawns into position first.....

Ahhh... the "secret agenda" defense... the "I know what they are REALLY planning, what they REALLY mean" defense... I was wondering when that would show up...

... it's not what has actually happened... it's what you KNOW they will do... at some time... at some point... because... well, just because YOU KNOW the REAL truth... the "super-duper-ultra-top-secret" agenda...

No rational evidence... no support in reality... just some extra special secret knowledge that one can only acquire if they have the right "magic decoder ring"...
 pirateheaven

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Posted: 10/31/2009 3:33:36 PM
There is a great deal of intellectual dishonesty here. For example, Chris Matthews the Democrat version of Mr. Potato Head, worked for the Democrats for several years including a stint with the Democratic Majority Leader Tip O'Neill. He is biased to the far left.

He really is unbiased here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no9fpKVXxCc&feature=related

He talks like he has a school girl crush on Obama and then says it's an objective assessment.
 mungojoe

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Posted: 10/31/2009 3:53:39 PM

There is a great deal of intellectual dishonesty here. For example, Chris Matthews the Democrat version of Mr. Potato Head, worked for the Democrats for several years including a stint with the Democratic Majority Leader Tip O'Neill. He is biased to the far left.

He really is unbiased here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=no9fpKVXxCc&feature=related

He talks like he has a school girl crush on Obama and then says it's an objective assessment.

Why thank you... thank you very much... You've once again managed to prove my points for me...

The FOX defenders can't meet the challenges made here... They can't show "made up sh*t" and fake "news" from other major sources that match FOX in it's egregious and deliberate falseness...

They can't back-up thier claims of "censorship", 1st Amendment infringements...

They can't dispute FOX's admitted claim to a "right to "make sh*t up" and pass it off as news"... They can't defend FOX's firing of personnel for refusing to "make sh*t up"...

They have no defense of FOX beyond irrelevancies... beyond merely "throwing grenades into the room and running"...

The challenges still stand... still unmet... still beyond reach...
 pirateheaven

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Posted: 10/31/2009 4:55:31 PM

They can't dispute FOX's admitted claim to a "right to "make sh*t up" and pass it off as news"... They can't defend FOX's firing of personnel for refusing to "make sh*t up"...


That is your opinion. The point I am making is that Chris Matthews is ALSO biased. Keith Oberfuhrer is BIASED. I backed up this assertion of Matthews with a video clip.

Matthews and Olberfuhrer were taken off presidential election coverage because of their BLATANT LIBERAL BIAS. Explain that one.


FOX's admitted claim to a "right to "make sh*t up" and pass it off as news"...


Where is your source for that?

I can sense your frustration, but this isn't a classroom filled with empty headed, adoring students.
 Dasein2

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Posted: 10/31/2009 4:58:45 PM
Matthews and Olberfuhrer were taken off presidential election coverage because of their BLATANT LIBERAL BIAS. Explain that one.


{Raises his hand and waves it wildly}

Ooo! Ooo! Me! I can!

Because the MSNBC producers have integrity and Faux news doesn't.

 pirateheaven

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Posted: 10/31/2009 5:14:01 PM

{Raises his hand and waves it wildly}

Ooo! Ooo! Me! I can!

Because the MSNBC producers have integrity and Faux news doesn't.


I am afraid MSLSD is light in the integrity field. Are you saying MSLSD executives who continue to foster biased reporting by Mr. Potato head and the Olberfurher day after day for years, suddenly had a moment of clarity and took them off the assignment?

How do you explain that they are still on the air? Oh, it was only a MOMENT of clarity.....
 James Bottomtooth III

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Posted: 10/31/2009 5:33:16 PM
The left is simply trying to discredit FOX because FOX has uncovered some things that have made the Obama administration look like the Far Left Radical group that it is, and they have been trying so hard to hide their true nature from main stream America...


Just because someone does not think that fox news is not a legitimate news source and has a strong bias does not make them from the left, there is a large percentage of the population that does not lean left or right and many of the them, myself included think fox is a joke.

When this happens -
In February 2003, a Florida Court of Appeals unanimously agreed with an assertion by FOX News that there is no rule against distorting or falsifying the news in the United States.

Seriously you do not see a problem with that?

Cable news networks know that just telling you what happened is not going to keep you interested, so they must choose polarizing topics and the more worked up you get about something and or the more emotionally you feel attached to the story / show the more you will watch.
ergo missing white girls, kids in balloons and made up stuff tend to be the topics of the day.

The only interest they have is in making money.

Failure to think the are telling you things that are in your best interest and not theirs is a failure to understand how business works.

They all suck to some degree, but fox does take it to a whole new level.
 mungojoe

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Posted: 10/31/2009 5:44:59 PM

That is your opinion. The point I am making is that Chris Matthews is ALSO biased. Keith Oberfuhrer is BIASED. I backed up this assertion of Matthews with a video clip.

And that equals "making sh*t up"... fake "news"... in what way, exactly...? How does this show dishonesty... "making sh*t up" to pass off as news... fake "news"...?

Q. How does this rise to the challenge?

A. It doesn't, it's just an attempt to distract with irrelevancies.


FOX's admitted claim to a "right to "make sh*t up" and pass it off as news"...

Where is your source for that?

FOX's legal defense in the suit filed by Akre and Wilson...

It was the lynch-pin of thier defense... that there was no law which prevented them from distorting the news... "making sh*t up", in other words... fake "news"... and that this should keep them from being liable for the firings under FL's 'whistle blower' law...

I can sense your frustration, but this isn't a classroom filled with empty headed, adoring students.

You are right... they have the background and critical thinking skills to assimilate knowledge which runs contrary to thier expectations and biases... in other words... they learn from reality rather than ignore it just to try to be right...
 killene

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Posted: 10/31/2009 6:24:57 PM
Msg 170 said (That is your opinion. The point I am making is that Chris Matthews is ALSO biased. Keith Oberfuhrer is BIASED. I backed up this assertion of Matthews with a video clip.
Matthews and Olberfuhrer were taken off presidential election coverage because of their BLATANT LIBERAL BIAS. Explain that one.)


Who can forget the tingle Up their leg Chris Matthews, boy one would think Obama and Chris were having an affair. LOL

Actually what Chris Matthews said was "I have to tell you, you know, it's part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama's speech. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event." http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/02/13/matthews-obama-speech-caused-thrill-going-my-leg

Talk about bias and being a bit weired out....Oh well maybe Chris has gotten a few winks or fanny slaps since then from Obama....
 mungojoe

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Posted: 10/31/2009 7:25:35 PM

Talk about bias and being a bit weired out....Oh well maybe Chris has gotten a few winks or fanny slaps since then from Obama....

...Incoming!!

And that pertains to FOX "making sh*t up" ... fake "news"... in what way... exactly?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC4WXown03c
 killene

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Posted: 11/1/2009 9:18:35 PM

Matthews and Olberfuhrer were taken off presidential election coverage because of their BLATANT LIBERAL BIAS. Explain that one.


Hmm I wonder if it was because Mathews was falling head overs heels in adoration of Obama.
Have to say at least FOX wasnot like that.....

Actually until Obama won the primary most of the comentators seems pretty much divided between Hillary and McCain. So there was reporting from the left and right, with O'Reilly eventually giving Obama some kudos after his Obama interview.
 geeleebee

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Posted: 11/2/2009 6:09:04 AM

Actually until Obama won the primary most of the comentators seems pretty much divided between Hillary and McCain. So there was reporting from the left and right, with O'Reilly eventually giving Obama some kudos after his Obama interview.


Silly me, but I'm going to ask anyway: Post a link to support your premise, wouldya?

Who were 'most of the comentators (sic)'?


Hmm I wonder if it was because Mathews was falling head overs heels in adoration of Obama.

Hmm...or perhaps Mathews was thrilled at the prospect of having an actual human being back in the White House, instead of the automatons that had occupied the space for the past eight years...hmmmm...hmmmm...hmmmm...

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Have to say at least FOX wasnot like that.....

Dear God, in Heaven... ... ...
 jack-d-ripper

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Posted: 11/2/2009 6:17:17 AM
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All the Lib's should reassess Fox News after The Fox Sunday Morning Show. Chris Wallace GRILLED Rush with TUFF questions.... Digging Deep for the Trusth...


...........30 Min' s of Journalism..... PuLL It ZER Stuff....




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