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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 11:01:03 AM |
Clearly some only want their news framed in context of their faith - and that's what the Republican party is becoming: faith based. I disagree. It is the democrat party that is attempting to become faith-based and with some real success. For example, read the following article...
http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1025/p15s02-uspo.html
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 11:07:32 AM | Msg said (Do those exist anymore? Seriously...It is possible to report facts and still be biased...the mainstream stations are very adept at reporting the facts that support their preconceived notions while all the facts that are presented may be true they do not reflect ALL the facts surrounding whatever incident or issue on which they are reporting )
It used to be that it was the Cable News Networks were the only ones biased.
Now adays even the major national non- cable news networks are just as biaed. News networks show they are biased not only in the way they report the news, but what they report and don't report.
Actually I have noticed that it seems that its pretty much only the local news stattions lately that seem to be able to report unbiased news most to the time.
Yes Fox is slanted on the right especially during the evening commentary programs. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 11:09:40 AM | The Media has a heavily liberal bias. Sources include Gallup, the NY Times, University of Connecticut, Pew Research Center, Harris Poll, American Society of Newspaper Editors, LA Times, Indiana University, US News and World Report, Chicago Tribune, and Roper
http://www.mrc.org/biasbasics/pdf/BiasBasics.pdf
See Page 31-32 Where journalists admit they are liberally baised!! | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 11:30:23 AM | 'Credible news source' is one that reports what happened by simply giving the facts--it doesn't create the news, it doesn't incite others, it doesn't promote public oppostition to the government. A credible news source just reports the news.
This definition virtually eliminates every media news outlet. Think back to any report regarding American opposition about the Iraq war or any anti Bush story. Besides that I would suggest that any news source chooses to employ descriptive adjectives as part of their mehod of imparting 'news' does not 'just report the news' | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 12:01:41 PM | The issue is not 'whether there is bias in the media?'; the issue is 'what is the scope of a particular media outlets bias?'. Historically, reporters themselves typically have a progressive bias because they are independent, whereas, editors typically have a conservative bias because they are beholden to advertisers. This is why in EVERY media outlet it is considered a free pass to critique the government but to never critique advertisers.
Faux has pushed this scope to the extreme form of tabloid journalism. (It should be no shock to anyone that Bill O'reilly got his start on A Current Affair) Faux has eliminated all progressive view points from its prime time programming, uses its commentary programs as a source for news, and has admitted that the majority of it's prime time programming is not news. The problem for Republicans is that Faux has become so powerful that it has caused the Republican party to eat its own head. Now the right is subdivided between Republicans and Conservatives -- this further fractioning of the party is a direct result of Faux's agenda.
Name me one other news outlet that has CREATED a new political party. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 12:02:36 PM | I gave up watching any of the cable news networks a long time ago. They are all pathetic. I rely mainly on newspapers and the Newshour on PBS for my news sources. I am sure many of you consider PBS to be liberal but they don't do sound bites, they don't spend an hour on something as earth shattering as the death of Michael Jackson. They spend time on the issue, in depth, and bring in people on both sides of the issue to discuss. The experts don't get to just act like talking heads trying to stay on message.
Newspapers aren't what they once were but they still have investigative reporting. I'll read both the New York Times and the Wall St. Journal. I am much happier staying away from the hysteria found on cable and local news. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 6:50:50 PM |
Newspapers aren't what they once were but they still have investigative reporting. I'll read both the New York Times and the Wall St. Journal. I am much happier staying away from the hysteria found on cable and local news.
I will have to say that I have noticed some very good unbiased articles on the part of New York Times and the Wall St. Journal. However, I have also noticed some very biased articles in them too on both sides of the fence; right and left.
Right now the news media, especially TV, seems to have a problem with putting a personal voice into what they report.
Though Fox is a bit more on the right, I will say that they seem to be more on top of what is happening out there especially politically. There are many things that have been happening that would not even been known except for an item that appeared on FOX.
The bullying by the WH and Democrats with organizations, people, and or companies that do not conform to Obama politics is not the way for a Presidential administration to act. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 6:59:16 PM | If Fox isn't a legit news channel then why do they bother to list them with the other cable news networks? I think The NPPL has made a minimum of two stupid claims this year
Cable News Ratings for Wednesday, October 21, 2009 Posted on 22 October 2009 by Robert Seidman
Live + Same Day Cable News Daily Ratings for October 21, 2009
P2+ Total Day FNC – 1,412,000 viewers CNN – 520,000 viewers MSNBC –395,000 viewers CNBC – 223,000 viewers HLN –355,000 viewers
http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/22/cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-october-21-2009/31248 | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 7:07:44 PM | http://www.angusreidstrategies.com/polls-analysis/opinion-polls/politics-cable-news-do-americans-believe-fox-news-qualifies-news
The Politics of Cable News: Do Americans believe Fox News qualifies as News?
[SAN FRANCISCO – Oct. 19, 2009] - Recently, the Obama Administration has decided to take a more aggressive response to what they believe is the increasing frequency of news stories that are misleading or simply not true. The White House communications director Anita Dunn pointed the finger at Fox News, describing it as “opinion journalism masquerading as news.” Dunn’s point was that Fox covers news and issues that are not ideological, but rather partisan.
An online survey conducted by Angus Reid Strategies asked a representative sample of 1,009 American adults whether they believed Fox News was a political or a news organization.
On average, respondents agreed that Fox News was more of a news organization than a political organization. However, nearly a third of respondents (32%) believe that Fox News is a political organization. ......................................................................................................................................
Survey Says: YES I'm guessing that 100% of the 32% are democrats.... | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 8:24:08 PM |
P2+ Total Day FNC – 1,412,000 viewers CNN – 520,000 viewers MSNBC –395,000 viewers CNBC – 223,000 viewers HLN –355,000 viewers http://tvbythenumbers.com/2009/10/22/cable-news-ratings-for-wednesday-october-21-2009/31248
Dang Fox had almost as many viewers as CNN, MSNBC, CNBC and HLN combined.
Mighting impressive ratings. I wonder if Obama realizes that he just might be part of the reason the FOX is laughing all the way to the bank. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 8:28:03 PM | Maybe we are misjudging Obama. He is stimulating the revenue of FOX news. He also is the best firearms and ammunition salesman of all time.
It really don't matter what liberals think of FOX. They can hunker down and watch the Olberfurher and Mr. Potato Head Chris Matthews on MSLSD. Meanwhile FOX will continue, grow and flourish as Americans choose to watch FOX. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 8:42:26 PM |
It is funny how the same people who CLAIM to be against bias have to spin the news ratings. How come they don't include the ratings of ABC, CBS, and NBC news?
There is a difference between Cable ratings and the ABC, CBS a NBC ratings as to being able to view them. As to the non-cable news media being biased...They are. There are still many in America that do not have cable or satelite TV. Thus is talking abut what Fox is doing rating wise its only fair to compare them with like stations.
Hey that would be like comparing Obama 9th month in office to Bush's 9th month in office. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/5/2009 8:42:45 PM |
It really don't matter what liberals think of FOX. They can hunker down and watch the Olberfurher and Mr. Potato Head Chris Matthews on MSLSD. Meanwhile FOX will continue, grow and flourish as Americans choose to watch FOX.
From my POV, the contest isn't between MSNBC and FOX. There is a bigger problem than this, which is that so many Americans have abdicated their responsibility to be informed and think critically about what they hear. While I think that much of the trumpeting going on here is vacuous and (itself) uninformed (you guys exaggerate ratings and fail to understand the difference between sitting on an entertainment channel for 12 hours a day and actively tuning into an actual news program in order to hear--gasp--the news) it IS troubling that so many Americans DO sit on FOX for twelve hours a day.
But FOX and its "success" in this respect is merely a reflection of a bigger problem, which is broad American intellectual laziness. I see it every day in my job--this idea that being challenged to think is some kind of offense. Wait....this is HARD. Well yes it is--and it's supposed to be--but sadly, we've been trained to think that being asked to exercise your brain is a bad thing.
The average FOX audience member--the type that gets everything he or she knows about the world from FOX--is just lazy. HERE is a source not just for the "news" (lol), but also for a whole world view. Why BOTHER thinking--comparing sources--weighing arguments--analyzing? Why trouble yourself? It's all right here--wrapped up in a shiny bow, ready made! YAY! | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/6/2009 6:27:14 AM |
From my POV, the contest isn't between MSNBC and FOX. There is a bigger problem than this, which is that so many Americans have abdicated their responsibility to be informed and think critically about what they hear. While I think that much of the trumpeting going on here is vacuous and (itself) uninformed (you guys exaggerate ratings and fail to understand the difference between sitting on an entertainment channel for 12 hours a day and actively tuning into an actual news program in order to hear--gasp--the news) it IS troubling that so many Americans DO sit on FOX for twelve hours a day.
But FOX and its "success" in this respect is merely a reflection of a bigger problem, which is broad American intellectual laziness. I see it every day in my job--this idea that being challenged to think is some kind of offense. Wait....this is HARD. Well yes it is--and it's supposed to be--but sadly, we've been trained to think that being asked to exercise your brain is a bad thing.
The average FOX audience member--the type that gets everything he or she knows about the world from FOX--is just lazy. HERE is a source not just for the "news" (lol), but also for a whole world view. Why BOTHER thinking--comparing sources--weighing arguments--analyzing? Why trouble yourself? It's all right here--wrapped up in a shiny bow, ready made! YAY! Absolutely brilliant.
Fox is 'successful', in part, because we do love a good train wreck. There is also a faction who love to have information broken down into sound bites, because some folks honestly do not understand much beyond a monosyllabic vocabulary. And Fox deals in fear. 'Death Panels', Tea Parties--fear-based and promoted by Fox.
NOT a news source. | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/6/2009 6:34:03 AM | . [qutoe]It really don't matter what liberals think of FOX. They can hunker down and watch the Olberfurher and Mr. Potato Head Chris Matthews on MSLSD. Meanwhile FOX will continue, grow and flourish as Americans choose to watch FOX..
So true....While FOX Laughs all the way to the Bank.
Seems that when it came down to the wire the other News Media in the news pool pulled together with FOX News which says more than anyone else can. If you discredit FOX, it looks like one is discrediting a lot of other news media that are questioning the WH about their craziness | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/6/2009 4:22:47 PM |
http://www.thenation.com/doc/20091123/dailyshow_video
....hmmm...Glenn Beck...ClusterFoxNotTheNews...Hemorrhoids...hmmm... ....hmmm...gotta take back the country...one...hemorroid...at...a...time... Very funny stuff!
Here is a very compelling article from Media Matters that I thought was worth the long cut/paste. It reads, in part:
"Journalists should be honest, fair and courageous in gathering, reporting and interpreting information." -- Society of Professional Journalists
Here's how the Society of Professional Journalists describes the craft:
Members of the Society of Professional Journalists believe that public enlightenment is the forerunner of justice and the foundation of democracy. The duty of the journalist is to further those ends by seeking truth and providing a fair and comprehensive account of events and issues. Conscientious journalists from all media and specialties strive to serve the public with thoroughness and honesty. Professional integrity is the cornerstone of a journalist's credibility.
The organization's Code of Ethics declares "the Society's principles and standards of practice." In terms of a broad-based definition of what journalism ought to be, the Code of Ethics remains the industry standard. And as you'll see below, Fox News routinely, and blatantly, breaks the code to which ethical journalists are supposed to aspire. Fox News staffers (and not just the opinion show hosts) don't simply fail to live up to the industry's own ethical standards. They produce broadcasts that run directly counter to established values and rules. In other words, they obliterate the Code of Ethics on a regular basis, which to me signals that Fox News is not a legitimate source of journalism... Below are some cornerstones to journalism's Code of Ethics, followed by clear-cut examples of how Fox News tramples that code:
-- Timeline of a [madrassa] smear
--Make certain that headlines, news teases and promotional material, photos, video, audio, graphics, sound bites and quotations do not misrepresent. They should not oversimplify or highlight incidents out of context.
After teasing story by saying "Obama makes a little girl cry," Fox News' Kelly acknowledged it was not true
--Never distort the content of news photos or video. Image enhancement for technical clarity is always permissible. Label montages and photo illustrations.
Fox News airs altered photos of NY Times reporters
--Never plagiarize.
Fox passes off GOP press release as its own research -- typo and all
--Avoid stereotyping by race, gender, age, religion, ethnicity, geography, sexual orientation, disability, physical appearance or social status.
Media adopt gender, racial stereotypes in characterizing Sotomayor's temperament, intellect
--Distinguish between advocacy and news reporting. Analysis and commentary should be labeled and not misrepresent fact or context.
REPORT: "Fair and balanced" Fox News aggressively promotes "tea party" protests
--Be sensitive when seeking or using interviews or photographs of those affected by tragedy or grief.
Fox News, CBS air clips of peephole video of ESPN's Erin Andrews
--Recognize that private people have a greater right to control information about themselves than do public officials and others who seek power, influence or attention. Only an overriding public need can justify intrusion into anyone's privacy.
O'Reilly Producer Stalks Amanda Terkel: THE VIDEO
--Show good taste. Avoid pandering to lurid curiosity.
Foxy News breaks out the boudoir B-roll to cover "the great breast augmentation scandal"
--Remain free of associations and activities that may compromise integrity or damage credibility.
Would a real news organization help GOP PACs raise money?
--Refuse gifts, favors, fees, free travel and special treatment, and shun secondary employment, political involvement, public office and service in community organizations if they compromise journalistic integrity.
FLASHBACK: When Fox News boasted about its "unprecedented" access to the Bush White House
--Be vigilant and courageous about holding those with power accountable.
After exclusive access, softball interviews during Bush admin, Fox News blasts ABC for White House exclusive
--Admit mistakes and correct them promptly.
EXCLUSIVE: Fox News seeks to confirm wildly inaccurate reporting that it's already aired on Jennings controversy; former student seeks Fox News correction
I normally wouldn't spend so much time with the chapter-and-verse examples to highlight the clear fact that Fox News is not a legitimate news organization. But since Beltway media elites continue to cling to the claim that it is, as well as peddle the bizarre, anti-free speech concept that the White House somehow ought to be forbidden to criticize the press, I'll continue with even more inescapable examples to back up the observation that Fox News is not a legitimate news outlet.
For instance, a legitimate news organization does not:
Source its research to "conservative blogs." Purposefully present stories out of context. Regularly declare "Victory!" when a White House initiative fails. Ignore a breaking news story that embarrasses the Republican Party. Invite fringe conspiracy theorists to appear on news shows. Suggest during a news program that Democrats voted to "protect pedophiles, but not veterans." Routinely accuse the president of the United States of being like Adolf Hitler. Describe itself as the "voice of the opposition." Air more than 100 commercials promoting partisan political rallies. Show 22 clips of health care reform opponents who attended town hall forums, and none of health reform supporters. Purchase full-page newspaper ads to spread falsehoods about the news competition. Invade the privacy of second-grade students. Promote violent political rhetoric. Fail to fact-check a murder story before airing allegations about it. Allow a news anchor to suggest a Supreme Court nominee is guilty of "reverse racism." It certainly would be helpful if reporters and pundits who work for respected corporate news outlets and who today defend Fox News as a legitimate operation (or at least chastise the White House for raising doubts) examined the 30 examples I listed above and ask themselves this: If they committed just one of those newsroom transgressions, would they still have a job? Would bosses at ABC or The New York Times or The Washington Post or wherever be willing to have those journalists on staff if they bent, and then busted, journalism's Code of Ethics the way Fox News regularly does?
I suspect the obvious answer is no. And I suspect journalists understand that. So why the Beltway charade? Why refuse to acknowledge the self-evident truth that Fox is not a legitimate news organization?
(Additional research by Simon Maloy.) http://mediamatters.org/columns/200910270002 | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/6/2009 4:29:52 PM | Fox News is overwhelmingly popular-- got it... message received.
But, hey, so were/are "Baywatch" and Nickelback. It is a bad idea to conflate popularity with quality.
Also, I have noticed over time that liberals are more likely to tune in to conservative shows than vice-versa. Viewing should not be confused with agreement. Iron sharpens iron, as they say... | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/6/2009 4:55:04 PM | Looks like Fox News Ratings is keeping its viewers happy while the other Cable News shows get barely 1/2 of the viewers of Fox News. Last night was not exception. That makes at least two nights this week that Fox has sat on top of all the other Cable News Shows.
Fox News Tops For Fort Hood Breaking News Coverage Ratings Huffington Post | Danny Shea First Posted: 11- 6-09 05:22 PM | Updated: 11- 6-09 05:53 PM
When news of the shooting at Fort Hood broke Tuesday, Fox News is where the majority of Americans turned for breaking news coverage.
Over the course of the breaking news, from 3PM-12AM, Fox News averaged 3.039 million total viewers, more than CNN (1.576 million), MSNBC (820,000), and HLN (428,000) combined. In the Adults 25-54 demographic over that time period, Fox News averaged 837,000 viewers, more than CNN's 471,000, MSNBC's 248,000, and HLN's 177,000.
In primetime, Fox News averaged 3.765 million total viewers to CNN's 2.024 million, MSNBC's 1.101 million, and HLN's 621,000. In the primetime A25-54 demo, Fox Nes averaged 1.147 million total viewers to CNN's 596,000, MSNBC's 308,000, and HLN's 221,000.
The breaking news brought several ratings records for Fox News as well: "Special Report with Bret Baier" (3.351 million), "Fox Report with Shepard Smith" (3.966 million) and "The O'Reilly Factor" all drew their largest total viewer audiences of 2009. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/06/fox-news-tops-for-fort-ho_n_349091.html&cp | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/6/2009 5:59:09 PM |
Also, I have noticed over time that liberals are more likely to tune in to conservative shows ... Absolutely ... that's where I get some of the things I post about here ... it can be absolutely hilarious the way they carry on about stuff.
They are their own worst enemies ... I'll never forget the day I was driving around doing my job ... seeing my patients and in between I was listening to that wingnut trash down in Florida ... Michael Medved. What an absolute hoot the day I heard them hissing around about something. They were all just beside themselves and just so incensed and just making so much of it ... they were just having an out of this world huge gigantic hissy fit.
I had only caught the tail end of it and so was anxiously waiting for them to say it one more time and then it happened ... I heard something that made me laugh so hard I actually had to pull over and get control of myself before continuing on to my client ...
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/presidentbush/2008/09/begala-moron.html
Countdown to Crawford: Tracking the final days of the Bush administration
« Hey hey, ho ho...Bailout draws protest at White House | Main | With House Republicans in revolt, Bush, Cheney scramble to rescue the $700-billion rescue plan » Paul Begala calls Bush a 'high-functioning moron' 11:01 PM PT, Sep 25 2008
With the days of the Bush presidency dwindling, and yet one more crisis ramping up, the talk is getting hot on the TV circuit.
Paul Begala, the television commentator and Democratic strategist who with James Carville propelled Bill Clinton to the presidency in 1992, knew he was about to get into trouble on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" show Thursday night with his description of President Bush.
He said as much as soon as he opened his mouth.
Still, with a panel that included Ed Rollins, the Republican strategist who ran Ronald Reagan's 1984 reelection campaign, he blurted it out:
I'm going to get in trouble. He's a high-functioning moron, and that's what Congress treats him as. Both parties.
To be sure, the panelists were egging each other on:
COOPER: "Watching the president last night give that speech, it was like watching him in Jackson Square in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina. I mean, he did not seem to be there."
ROLLINS: "No, he wasn't there."
GLORIA BORGER: "He's not comfortable — "
COOPER: "He was physically there but — "
At which point Begala chimed in.
And lit up the Web — from the liberal DailyKos site ("one of the most awesome moments in the history of cable news") to the conservative Media Research Center's NewsBusters ("What is it with Democrats and their grotesque slurs upon the intelligence of their political rivals?"). OMFG ... I just could not stop laughing and it probably would have been a good laugh and then I would have just moved on but every time I thought I was gaining my composure so I could drive further ... they played the clip again ... and then it would just start all over again with me.
That night I noticed my stomach hurt ... from laughing so much.
Fox and all their wingnuts ... now that's entertainment ... I have to give them that!!!!!  | |
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| Nobel Peace Prize Laureate confirms Faux News is NOT a news organization Posted: 11/6/2009 6:22:22 PM | Msg: 224 said (Paul Begala, the television commentator and Democratic strategist who with James Carville propelled Bill Clinton to the presidency in 1992, knew he was about to get into trouble on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" show Thursday night with his description of President Bush )
Not bad entertainment for liberal CNN....Looks like the viewers don't like CNN's Anderson Cooper 360 type of entertainment anymore. But have to give CNN some good points for how they have stood and are standing by Obama.
But it sure looks like some radio hosts know how to point out the funny stuff on TV.......
It was a good bit of entertainment on the Part of CNN....Everyone probably got a good laugh out of it. Bush was the blunt of many jokes last year, especially towards the year.
Many people were in countdown mode most of last year looking forward to the end of Bush's term, including me.
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