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 flighttime

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What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/27/2009 5:59:34 PM
Though a long time believer in Sabbath, after seeing Judas Priest last month in St. Augustine I would have to say they are tops. Have seen their tours many times over the years ( since the early 80's anyway) and would have to say the best metal started in Europe and a special with shout out to the Scorpians also.
 JSlade58

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Posted: 10/28/2009 7:41:13 PM
PRIEST PRIEST PRIEST !!!!
 music_man1966

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Posted: 10/29/2009 11:49:22 PM
Black Sabbath is the godfather of heavy metal..
 Gitarded

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Posted: 10/30/2009 3:05:18 AM
Sabbath will send ANY band running home to it's momma, screaming, with a piss trail running down it's leg.
 barbyanne2

Joined: 10/19/2009
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What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/30/2009 5:31:35 PM
Is water wet in it's liquid form if no one actually touches it? Isn't it wetness merely a construct of the human mind?

Deep Purple

(and for those who couldn't figure it out, or don't know me and know how I am....I was not serious about the procol harum thing. Thought I should take a moment to clarify)
 AABRAVE

Joined: 6/29/2009
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What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 10/31/2009 6:02:55 AM
The Encyclopedia of Heavy Metal‎ - Page 1955
"The Kinks wrote "You Really Got Me," which many rock historians consider
the first heavy metal song of all time because of its distorted guitar
riff. ..."

The Encyclopedia of Heavy Metal
Daniel Bukszpan, Ronnie James (FRW) Dio
Ronnie James (FRW) Dio
Edition: illustrated
Barnes & Noble Publishing, 2003
ISBN 0760742189, 9780760742181
My personal view is that Deep Purple brought it to the masses though, and anyone who says no has not listened to Made In Japan.
 barbyanne2

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Posted: 10/31/2009 12:40:24 PM
Thanks! Someone from the UK should know Deep Purple!

This doesn't in anyway minimize Black Sabbath. It's simply an historic perspective.

I'm pretty familiar with the Kinks and can say I don't know for sure if I agree with that assessment. Under that criteria we can also look at Link Wray who is def the grandaddy of Rock n Roll guitar - electric, hard rock - feedback & distortion style. Rumble baby

I'll probably listen to some kinks a little later to see if I can figure out what you're talking about.
 AABRAVE

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Posted: 11/1/2009 9:13:33 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54H3EUAzpVg

Try Budgie if you want to beat Black Sabbeth. Just a thought,
This song was 1973 but thier first album was 1971
 mike584

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Posted: 11/3/2009 10:21:43 PM
This is ridiculous. Without Tony Iommi's technique, feel, and black heart, there would be no metal. That's all there is to it. To quote Robert Plant regarding Led Zeppelin's affiliation with metal: "Oh my god! We were not a metal band". Deep Purple were just loud. Sabbath showed that heavy was much more than loud, which they obviously were. Heavy is also an attitude and they had plenty of that to go around! They were tough.
 TheBigAndy

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Posted: 11/3/2009 11:25:27 PM
The first few Budgie albums are amazing. They definitely a huge influence on Rush.

One guy worth bringing up is Screaming Lord Sutch. One of the first guys to run around in long hair, wear wild clothes, and bring on the outrageous stage performances. He also worked with Mitch Mitchell, Jimi Page, Jeff Black, and Richie Blackmore in the early 60s.
 Kd83

Joined: 10/26/2009
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Posted: 11/4/2009 9:52:04 AM
No mention of Screamin' Jay Hawkins yet?
 Torrtyr

Joined: 10/31/2009
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What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 11/4/2009 1:32:28 PM
Well it began with The Who and Jimi Hendrix though neither were metal.

Black Sabbath is definitely the most influential but all these bands contributed to the evolution of metal.

It's a close call but Hawkwind is my favorite band but Sabbath was my introduction to it all. Hey when I first heard Led Zeppelin I was 10 years old how was I supposed to know what whole lotta love was all about.
 Mysteriis

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Posted: 11/4/2009 3:03:10 PM
Although I agree with everybody with regards to Black Sabbath I am surprised not to see The Beatles mentioned at all.

A lot of people consider 'Helter Skelter' by The Beatles to be one of the earliest Metal songs.
 Revive My Wounds

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Posted: 11/4/2009 5:03:12 PM
Black Sabbath, most definitely. If you do some research on metal bands today, you'll find most of their inspiration came from Black Sabbath.

Then you had artists come around in the early 80s such as The Scorpions, Metallica and Slayer come onto the scene, redefining metal.
 Torrtyr

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Posted: 11/4/2009 5:12:38 PM
There were some interesting garage bands in the late 60's I think I'd say were the impetus of heavy metal they are obscure bands and finding recordings of them is nearly impossible but they turn up in torrents. UFO is one of them.

Black Sabbath was a blues band originally with a steel guitar player lol they were called Earth before they changed to Black Sabbath.
 Eyes O Blue 2

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Posted: 11/4/2009 7:03:00 PM
Ok, if you really want to get ridiculous, Les Paul is the Godfather because he invented the electric guitar - THERE !
 Mrpbody44

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What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 11/4/2009 7:27:06 PM
Blue Cheer were one of the first. I would say Link Wray's Rumble started things as well as The Kinks You Really Got Me.
 Torrtyr

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Posted: 11/4/2009 7:47:01 PM
I was serious

if you ask my humble opinion Pentagram is THE definitive heavy metal band I mean don't get me wrong Metal is practically my religion and I love it all or at least tolerate some of it it's all good it doesn't matter as long as it's loud and furious.
 music_man1966

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What man or band is the Godfather of Heavy Metal? Let the debate begin!
Posted: 11/4/2009 9:16:08 PM
I've never heard of Hawkwind before. I'll have to check them out. What does their music sound like ?
 Torrtyr

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Posted: 11/4/2009 9:50:49 PM
hehe

it's impossible to describe them they are out there really you'll either get it or be like WTF

they pioneered so many genres they are in a class of their own. It's space rock it's way out there like Pink Floyd but crazier.
 Vicshe

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Posted: 11/6/2009 10:09:04 AM
The term "heavy metal" in music first came from the Steppenwolf song "Born to Be Wild," which was written by Mars Bonfire (who was not in the band). I think it was 1968.

I like smoke and lightning
Heavy metal thunder
Racin' with the wind
And the feelin' that I'm under
Yeah Darlin' go make it happen
Take the world in a love embrace
Fire all of your guns at once
And explode into space....
 HamScream

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Posted: 11/6/2009 12:24:43 PM
So, this thread was pretty awesome, love hearing others take on this. I may be young, but one of the first metal bands I listened too was PanterA. Now I know this is WAY after Sabbaths days. I am one of the people that agree Sabbath for sure. I mean, look at the various other metal bands around, old and new that have did a cover of a Sabbath song. If ANY band out today that claims to be metal, says that Sabbath isn't an influence on them, they are full of shit.
I have been in 3 different bands, 2 were pretty heavy and the other not as heavy. I play samples and keys and did a little vocals. Even though I'm not a guitarist or drummer or anything, I still look to them as a huge influence.
Anyway that is just my take on this. Take it or leave it :)
 caddboy

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Posted: 11/6/2009 3:43:35 PM
Zeppelin was not Heavy Metal, they were Raunch N Roll.
 barbyanne2

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Posted: 11/7/2009 7:47:39 AM
It is only ridiculous to you because not everyone agrees with you, Mike? Ya, and that's open-minded....

I agree with Tomi Iomi's influence, and think I was the first to mention it, actually. I think Sabbath is the most easily recognized early metal band that most were influenced by, however, there were musicians playing heavy music before them. I had forgotten about Steppenwolf . They are also a good suggestion. I had also forgotten about Blue Cheer. With Deep Purple I think "Smoke On The Water." That particular song was around at the same time as Ozzy, and most of my metal friends listened to both, at that time.

Let us give some credit to the people who were actually there at the time....when metal 1st came on the scene...it was not how you might think

A lot of people also liked Randy Bachman. BTO/Guess Who
 ~Pedro Sanchez~

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Posted: 11/7/2009 4:50:50 PM
The next biggest influence on heavy metal would be the Ramoans.

I think you might have meant for punk rock. The Ramones predated The Pistols and The Clash for sure.

Iron Butterfly - Ina-Gadda-Da-Vida...listen to that riff.
Alright I concede. Sabath it is.
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