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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/26/2009 9:47:56 PM |
Where is the outrage at Graysons rhetoric? I don't see it as "rhetoric". He appears to be telling the truth. So far, everything he has talked about seems to be true. He spoke of the stall tactics and other Democrats confirmed it ... the Republicans didn't deny it. And now with televised sessions ... we can all see what's going on there.
He speaks of what is happening to Americans on a daily basis ... 122 Americans die daily because they do not have health insurance ... and that's not a lie ... it truly is a fact. Who wants to go in and debate that with him or deny it when they know it's true?
He is smearing millions of Americans and there is hardly a peep. How is he smearing millions of Americans?
If the Republicans won't help us get health care ... they will be considered the enemies of America at the next election. I guess they believe they just don't have to represent their constituents ... they are the party of "No" and I guess we'll find out in the next election of that's what America wants ... a party of "No" and "let's do everything we can do to make OBAMA fail" ... even if it takes them down with it. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/26/2009 10:07:40 PM |
According to Representative Grayson, Republicans are the enemy. It's his opinion, and he is free to discuss it. Can't say that I find much amiss with it.
I think it is clear where you stand. I am not a self loathing white person and will not take the blame for slavery, apartheid or for other people's failures. I won't take the blame for food waste on cruise ships either. We are all individuals, and need to take responsibility for our own actions.
I think Mark Grayson ought to be censured for his outrageous slander against millions of Americans.
Rev. Wright is a bigot and hypocrite of the highest order.
As a 'student of history', I'd expect that you credit the author of those words, and not misattribute them to President Obama who borrowed them to use in one of his books.
I said it was in Obamas book, not that he wrote those words. Apology accepted.
As for the charity, the American people are the most generous in the world. Please cite a country who has given more to Africa.
ask yourself why it was so important to go into Iraq.
Ask yourself why Democrats always vote for military appropriations bills to fund these wars and then claim they are against them. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/26/2009 10:15:24 PM | Not a clue who 'Mark Grayson' is, so I can't comment on him. Should have attributed Wright's words to Wright, thereby doing away with any implication that the words were Obama's. No apology offered. Duh. I am not a self-loathing White person. I do not accept the blame for installing Apartheid in South Africa. Giving to charity is one thing--ignoring the brutality and outrages being committed against the people of one country, and then claiming to want to save the people of another country from the same thing by invading them, is the epitome of hypocrisy.
I'm really glad to know that it's clear where I stand. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/26/2009 10:23:26 PM | Giving to charity is one thing--ignoring the brutality and outrages being committed against the people of one country, and then claiming to want to save the people of another country from the same thing by invading them, is the epitome of hypocrisy.
You didn't answer the question as to why Democrats always voted in favor of appropriations bills that fund the war but then claim they are against it. Now that is hypocrisy.
"The race baiting is deplorable."
I agree with you there.
I don't see it as "rhetoric". He appears to be telling the truth. So far, everything he has talked about seems to be true. He spoke of the stall tactics and other Democrats confirmed it ... the Republicans didn't deny it. And now with televised sessions ... we can all see what's going on there.
Are you familiar with the rules of the Senate and House? The Dems can vote in health care ANY time they want. They have the majorities in the senate, house and they control the presidency. The problem is with THEM. They don't need a single Republican vote to pass ANYTHING they please.
BTW, it is their responsibility to reflect the sentiment of their constituency. I don't know a single Republican who is for Obamacare.
The latest rasmussen poll shows that 57% of voters nationwide believe it will raise the cost of health care, and 53% believe the quality of care will get worse. That’s part of the reason that just 45% support the plan.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 6:21:12 AM |
You didn't answer the question as to why Democrats always voted in favor of appropriations bills that fund the war but then claim they are against it. Now that is hypocrisy.
I thought it was rhetorical.
'K, given that it was an actual question, here's my response: No, they don't. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 6:45:40 AM |
You didn't answer the question as to why Democrats always voted in favor of appropriations bills that fund the war but then claim they are against it. Now that is hypocrisy.
The democrats voted for funding the young men and woman who were sent to fight this illegal trumped up war
Are you familiar with the rules of the Senate and House? The Dems can vote in health care ANY time they want. They have the majorities in the senate, house and they control the presidency. The problem is with THEM. They don't need a single Republican vote to pass ANYTHING they please.
If I could find one fault with President Obama it would be that he is too willing to negotiate on the bills he wants passed, I think he should "jam" them through with as little debate as possible, it is now very apparent that the republicans are going to be against any thing he does
BTW, it is their responsibility to reflect the sentiment of their constituency. I don't know a single Republican who is for Obamacare.
It looks like 61% of the people now want a health care reform package with a public option
The latest rasmussen poll shows that 57% of voters nationwide believe it will raise the cost of health care, and 53% believe the quality of care will get worse. That’s part of the reason that just 45% support the plan.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform
As long as the health care industry backed by the republicans who support their interests over the interests of the people keep distorting the facts people will believe the distortions, if a public option is part of the package and can not out perform private insurance people will opt to retain their private insurance
BTW, it is their responsibility to reflect the sentiment of their constituency. I don't know a single Republican who is for Obamacare.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/current_events/healthcare/september_2009/health_care_reform
The latest rasmussen poll shows that 57% of voters nationwide believe it will raise the cost of health care, and 53% believe the quality of care will get worse. That’s part of the reason that just 45% support the plan.
This is from the washinton post
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/19/AR2009101902451.html?nav=rss_email/components
On the issue that has been perhaps the most pronounced flash point in the national debate, 57 percent of all Americans now favor a public insurance option, while 40 percent oppose it. Support has risen since mid-August, when a bare majority, 52 percent, said they favored it. (In a June Post-ABC poll, support was 62 percent.)
If a public plan were run by the states and available only to those who lack affordable private options, support for it jumps to 76 percent. Under those circumstances, even a majority of Republicans, 56 percent, would be in favor of it, about double their level of support without such a limitation.
Fifty-six percent of those polled back a provision mandating that all Americans buy insurance, either through their employers or on their own or through Medicare or Medicaid. That number rises to 71 percent if the government were to provide subsidies for many lower-income Americans to help them buy coverage. With those qualifiers, a majority of Republicans say they support the mandate
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/09/25/poll-public-option-favore_n_299669.html
A New York Times/CBS poll found that 65% of respondents want a public health care option, while only 26% opposed such a plan.
The most important poll took place Nov 08 when the people voted in President Barack Obama and one of his campaign promises was to reform health care, he is now following up on that promise | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 1:12:38 PM |
Yes ... imagine that. Freedom of speech is not just for the Repugnicans.
I see...so the DEMOCRAPS going after fox, the chamber of commerce, Rush, Hannity by trying to pass new FCC regulations to shut them up is good for the 1st amendment huh? Typical left wing hate..typical left wing hiding from opposing opinion... The right spewed hate for years, this I will not deny but to go after their 1st amendment rights because the left hates them...yea...higher ground...makes me all warm and fuzzy!
Grayson is allowed his opinion. Even though we all know it is just more left wing dribble and hate. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 1:25:57 PM |
I see...so the DEMOCRAPS going after fox, the chamber of commerce, Rush, Hannity by trying to pass new FCC regulations to shut them up is good for the 1st amendment huh? Typical left wing hate..typical left wing hiding from opposing opinion... The right spewed hate for years, this I will not deny but to go after their 1st amendment rights because the left hates them...yea...higher ground...makes me all warm and fuzzy!
Where is your link to prove any of your allegations?
Grayson is allowed his opinion.
That's big of you to allow "Senator" Grayson to have an opinion
quote]Even though we all know it is just more left wing dribble and hate.
Casn you prove it's left wing hatred driven dribble or is that your opinion? | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 1:50:14 PM | Unlike the above know it all poster..I do know how to post links..not just left wing garbage... Please read this Earl..then deny or spin at will!
http://www.ohiomm.com/blogs/da_kings_men/2009/08/15/meet-the-new-fcc-diversity-officer/
Meet The New FCC Diversity Officer
by Da King on August 15, 2009
in FCC, Uncategorized, freedom, liberalism, media bias
I don't know if the FCC had a Diversity Officer before, but they have one now. Here's a brief biography of Mark Lloyd, the newly appointed associate general counsel and chief diversity officer at the Federal Communications Commission.
"Mr. Lloyd was most recently the Vice President for Strategic Initiatives at the Leadership Conference on Civil Rights/ Education Fund, where he oversaw media and telecom initiatives. Mr. Lloyd was also an adjunct professor of public policy at the Georgetown University Public Policy Institute, and from 2002-2004 a visiting scholar at MIT where he conducted research and taught communications policy. Previously Mr. Lloyd has been a senior fellow at the Center for American Progress, the General Counsel of the Benton Foundation, and an attorney at Dow, Lohnes & Albertson. Before becoming a communications lawyer, Mr. Lloyd had a distinguished career as a broadcast journalist, including work at NBC and CNN." – FCC
As the FCC's chief diversity officer, Mark Lloyd's mission is to destroy conservative talk radio promote divergent viewpoints that represent the greater community. The fact that Lloyd himself is a liberal (senior fellow at the Soros-funded left-wing Center For American Progress) will in no way affect his mission, I'm sure. As we all know, liberals are the tolerant, open-minded people who are willing to listen to any and all liberal viewpoints.
Lloyd is focused on a serious problem with radio broadcasting – conservative talk radio is beating the pants off of liberal talk radio in the private sector. This is a BIG problem, unlike television, newspapers, movies, and college campuses, where liberals have a large media advantage. There is NO problem there, other than maybe how to get Fox News off the air. Lloyd isn't for a return to the Fairness Doctrine though, because, well, the Fairness Doctrine just wasn't effective enough. Conservative talk might still filter through. Lloyd has some better ideas, and like most liberal ideas, they center around punishing that nasty entity known as the "free market." In a 2007 article titled 'Forget The Fairness Doctrine,' Lloyd says the following:
The Center for American Progress late last month published a widely read report titled “The Structural Imbalance of Political Talk Radio.” That report demonstrated the failure of the supposed “free market” regulation of the U.S. radio industry to address the public-interest needs of listeners. Our analysis revealed that conservative talk radio dominates the airwaves of our country—to the detriment of informed public discourse and the First Amendment.
There you go. Those damned Conservatives must be stopped. There's an "imbalance." It's a "detriment." And probably unconstitutional. Unlike newspapers, movies, television, and college campuses, where there is no problem. Lloyd goes on:
In our report, we call for ownership rules that we think will create greater local diversity of programming, news, and commentary. And we call for more localism by putting teeth into the licensing rules. But we do not call for a return to the Fairness Doctrine. Despite what we thought was fairly stark evidence of conservative bias, despite clear proposals to address that bias, Rush Limbaugh and other distortionists insisted that we were calling for a “return” of the Fairness Doctrine
See ? We have conservative "bias" in talk radio, unlike newspapers, television, movies, and college campuses (where we have liberal bias), and those conservative talk radio folks are "distortionists." They lied and said liberals wanted a return to the Fairness Doctrine (how that is supposed to be a lie, I have no idea. All kinds of liberals DID want a return to the Fairness Doctrine).
But as I said before, Lloyd has better ideas than the Fairness Doctrine. Here he is promoting one such idea, which is, file lawsuits to force conservative talk radio into submission:
Here’s the history that matters. In the late 1960s the United Church of Christ successfully challenged the Federal Communications Commission over the lack of local input in FCC decisions. A moderate Republican judge, Warren Burger, whom Nixon later appointed as Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, sided with the church group. As a result of that ruling, a whole slew of rules were put in place to give local communities power in the licensing of broadcasters.
Yes, let's get liberal groups to sue and threaten the licenses of the conservative talk radio stations ! Lloyd expounds on that theme:
In their engagement in the licensing process many of those [suing threatening] groups cited the responsibility of the broadcaster to “afford reasonable opportunity for the discussion of conflicting views of issues of public importance…this core responsibility remains in the Communications Act today.”
Here's Lloyd's bestest idea of all – Make them pay:
The other part of our proposal that gets the dittoheads upset is our suggestion that the commercial radio station owners either play by the rules or pay. In other words, if they don’t want to be subject to local criticism of how they are meeting their license obligations, they should pay to support public broadcasters who will operate on behalf of the local community. Commercial broadcasters want to be trustees of public property but without responsibility.
Yeah, it's only those "dittoheads" who get all upset when you want commercial radio stations (aka, conservative talk radio) to fund public radio stations (aka, liberal talk radio). That's the ticket. Lloyd actually wants private conservative talk radio stations to fund their direct competition. Only a liberal mind could dream up something this perverse. This all happens under the mirage of promoting divergent opinions. Let's take a look at existing public broadcasting on political issues. As we all know, NPR plays it straight down the middle, politically speaking, as long as by "straight down the middle," you mean "promotes the liberal view."
Now for the piece de resistance. Guess how much Lloyd wants commercial radio stations to pay to fund their public radio station competition ? You're gonna love this. In his 2006 book, Prologue to a Farce: Communications and Democracy in America, Lloyd called for making private broadcasting companies pay licensing fees equal to their total operating costs to allow public broadcasting outlets to spend the same on their operations as the private companies do: Here's the communist Lloyd, from his book:
“The Corporation for Public Broadcasting (CPB) must be reformed along democratic lines and funded on a substantial level,” Lloyd wrote in his book. “Federal and regional broadcast operations and local stations should be funded at levels commensurate with or above those spending levels at which commercial operations are funded,” Lloyd wrote. “This funding should come from license fees charged to commercial broadcasters. Funding should not come from congressional appropriations. (link)
How many private conservative talk radio stations would choose to stay in business with such exorbitant fees ? I'm thinking – NONE. I'm also thinking that's the whole idea behind Lloyd's bs.
But our new Diversity Czar doesn't stop there. He also wants to dictate programming content as well:
“Local public broadcasters and regional and national communications operations should be required to encourage and broadcast diverse views and programs,” wrote Lloyd. “These programs should include coverage of all local, state and federal government meetings, as well as daily news and public issues programming. “In addition, educational programs for children and adults, and diverse, independent personal and cultural expression should be encouraged,” he wrote.
What's ostensibly crazy about Lloyd's crapola is, we have more divergent viewpoints being heard in our society than we ever have. With the rise of the internet and alternative media, cable television, etc., it's not difficult to find somebody somewhere catering to your particular political stripe. It's easier than in ever was. Mark Lloyd just doesn't like it that conservatives have carved out a niche for themselves on the radio. Think of all the radio stations on the air in your locality. How many of them are conservative talk radio ? One, maybe two out of dozens ? Yet, this is the BIG PROBLEM that Lloyd thinks we need to address ? Ridiculous. Mark Lloyd is disseminating disinformation. Mark Lloyd is just one more in a long line of double-talking, anti-free market, anti-free speech, pro-government control, pinhead bureaucrats who wants to censor any opinions he doesn't like. Because the liberal talk radio that Mark Lloyd wants has not succeeded on as big a scale as has conservative talk radio up until now, Lloyd wants to bully it into submission. Screw him and the horse he rode in on. He's a Nazi. This is all about censorship and nothing else. Have you ever heard a liberal like Lloyd complain about the imbalance of liberal college professors over conservative college professors at state-run universities ? Of course you haven't, and you never will. Those like Lloyd don't care about anything other than shutting up those conservatives. If they can't win in the open market of ideas, they want to close the market. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 3:31:12 PM |
Unlike the above know it all poster..I do know how to post links..not just left wing garbage... Please read this Earl..then deny or spin at will!
Before I go through the trouble of prove checking show me how this connects to the thread about Senator Grayson, again your being disrespectful, anyone can post links it's harder to find a credible unbiased link | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 3:49:09 PM |
I think Mark Grayson ought to be censured for his outrageous slander against millions of Americans.
Can you identify the actual slander?
Grayson identified FOX and its republican collaborators as "enemies" (according to your post). That isn't even to name ALL republicans, nor EVEN ALL Fox viewers--but just the "news" (to put it lightly) organization and ITS collaborators (hardly "millions of Americans" and NOT the same as viewers). Even if there WAS slander here, you are greatly exaggerating the numbers of Americans tainted by it.
But in the end, unless you can prove that Grayson lied, there is no slander--and I don't think you can do that.
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BTW, Grayson is absolutely right. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 3:52:50 PM | Jesus, after reading these posts, I can see why America is in trouble. The left and the right hate each other so much that they can't see the forest for the trees. We spend so much time and energy pointing fingers and blaming each other that NOTHING changes to make this a better country for ALL of us.
Disagreeing with each other is perfectly fine and is as American as Baseball and Apple Pie used to be; however, at the end of the day we have to find common ground to make sure that all of our citizens are afforded what our Government is supposed to provide and that is the protection and the ability to enjoy LIFE, LIBERTY, and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS. Look around you! While we bicker and argue MILLIONS of our fellow citizens are in pain and in need. We should ALL be ashamed ! What is changing while we bicker and argue? Are we making things better for our citizens by bashing the president or by bashing the politicians of either party?
It's time to grow the **** up, look in the damm mirror and admit that we are ALL at fault.. we seriously ****ed up and let things get out of hand and until we stop trying to blame others NOTHING will change for the better! | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 6:07:26 PM | It looks like Grayson is going too far for the Democrats too.
http://dyn.politico.com/printstory.cfm?uuid=93684755-18FE-70B2-A811B821A391E179
Republicans and Democrats slammed Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) for calling Linda Robertson, an adviser to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, a “K Street whore” in a month-old radio interview that circulated on Capitol Hill Monday night.
“There’s no call for that language. No call for it. That’s absurd. If he was standing here now, I’d say that to him,” said Rep. Bill Pascrell (D-N.J.)
It’s clear that his colleagues’ opinion of him has suffered.
“Is this news to you that this guy’s one fry short of a Happy Meal?” asked Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-N.Y.) | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 7:14:12 PM |
Republicans and Democrats slammed Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) for calling Linda Robertson, an adviser to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, a “K Street whore” in a month-old radio interview that circulated on Capitol Hill Monday night.
Come on now...we all know the democraps can say anything they want. They can call names and vilify anyone they want. Now on the other hand, if a Republican had called a demoncrap a "k" street whore...the demoncraps would be calling for his head....
It seems what is good for the goose is not so good for the gander... | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 7:27:38 PM |
Republicans and Democrats slammed Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) for calling Linda Robertson, an adviser to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, a “K Street whore” in a month-old radio interview that circulated on Capitol Hill Monday night.
Come on now...we all know the democraps can say anything they want. They can call names and vilify anyone they want. Now on the other hand, if a Republican had called a demoncrap a "k" street whore...the demoncraps would be calling for his head....
It seems what is good for the goose is not so good for the gander...
Come on now do you anticipate every one will just take your word for it and speaking of name calling "demoncrap" your still responding in a distasteful way, isn't that below a person like you
Let me quote your quote for you
Republicans and Democrats slammed Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) for calling Linda Robertson, an adviser to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, a “K Street whore” in a month-old radio interview that circulated on Capitol Hill Monday night. does your quote say Republicans and Democrats slammed Rep Alan Grayson if so do you even bother to read what you quote or is your hatred so strong that you miss keywords | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 7:38:55 PM |
Republicans and Democrats slammed Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) for calling Linda Robertson, an adviser to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, a “K Street whore” in a month-old radio interview that circulated on Capitol Hill Monday night.
Now those are Democrats I would like to shake the hand of. I can't help but wonder if it would have been different if it had been someone who had more Democratic affiliations. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 7:49:51 PM |
Republicans and Democrats slammed Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) for calling Linda Robertson, an adviser to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke, a “K Street whore” in a month-old radio interview that circulated on Capitol Hill Monday night. Yes and he also apologized.
And just BTW ... it wasn't because the Democratic Party heavyweights (whoever they may be) put him under pressure to do so. He did it on his own accord and also did not hold a press conference shortly thereafter to say he didn't really mean to apologize.
I think Grayson is a straight shooter and is setting a wonderful example for others. We need more like him. He doesn't get things all muddied up ... just tells it like it is.
The Repugnicans just love to dish it out, but as soon as someone such as Grayson shows up and pushes back, they get indignant. What a bunch of cowardly cry babies. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 8:02:25 PM |
I think Grayson is a straight shooter and is setting a wonderful example for others. We need more like him. He doesn't get things all muddied up ... just tells it like it is.
Calling a woman in public office a whore, is not my idea of setting a wonderful example for others. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 8:19:28 PM |
Calling a woman in public office a whore, is not my idea of setting a wonderful example for others.
She's not in public office. She's a former Enron lobbyist who now works at the federal reserve. You would be right in saying that Grayson shouldn't call ANY woman a whore--but this particular woman is NOT in public office.
I too disapprove of this use of language. Grayson clearly has a view of people involved in lobbying activities (and the kind of person who would lobby for Enron)--and in the sense that he seems to have meant it, the whole MESS of the lobbyist/government axis (K-street) is WHORISH. But, one DOES have to be careful and here, he slipped up. However, this doesn't mean that EVERYTHING the man says is inappropriate. And I for one am quite thrilled to see a democrat out there refusing to pull his punches when it comes to articulating beliefs that MANY of us hold when it comes to the conservative agenda on the Hill AND the kind of bile being spewed at FOX. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 8:23:44 PM |
Calling a woman in public office a whore, is not my idea of setting a wonderful example for others. She's not in "public office" ... she's nothing more than an adviser ...
Linda Robertson, an adviser to Fed Chairman Ben Bernanke
On the whole, he is setting a wonderful example for others by the way he takes issue with the stall tactics of the Repugnicans and exposing them for what they're doing to keep Health Reform from passing ... among other things.
Grayson is a goodie-two shoes compared to what the Repugnicans (for example) from the great state of South Carolina have contributed lately.  | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 8:36:15 PM |
Calling a woman in public office a whore, is not my idea of setting a wonderful example for others.
She's not in "public office" ... she's nothing more than an adviser ...
Your justification of this remark is surprising to me. When did it become OK for a Congressman to call a woman working for the govt a "whore" become acceptable?
You would think NOW would be all over this one, but he is getting a pass. | |
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| Rep. Alan Grayson - Republicans are Enemies of America Posted: 10/27/2009 10:12:20 PM |
Ithink Grayson is a straight shooter and is setting a wonderful example for others. We need more like him. He doesn't get things all muddied up ... just tells it like it is.
If calling people names such as "Whore" and anyone with a diverse opinion an enemy are the wonderful examples we want to set for our children, then heaven help us.
And we wonder why we are having so many problems with the teen generations. | |
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