| Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? Posted: 11/4/2009 9:25:16 PM |
98-0. Every Democrat in the Senate voted to go into Afghanistan.
How soon so many forget about who voted for what.
How soon so many forget who had the control of the House and Senate the last few years. Now those in control just want to point fingers, yet do nothing but sit on their hands. | |
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| Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? Posted: 11/5/2009 1:51:23 AM |
Seems no one can decide who it is anyone is supposed to be fighting.
I disagree, there are those militant fundamentalists who we rae going to have to fight because negoitiation is not possisble due to their fanatical beliefs that preclude a comprimise.
So its a question of *where* you finght them.
Over there they are able to come fight the military forces of the West, ie they fight those who can fight back, with realtive ease of acces to those forces. For us its an o0utposts posiostion., for themk its there back yard, better to blow there back yard up in the process than ours.
If we pull out and come back to a fixed defense poistion, pull the covers over our head and wait for them to work out how to get to us, do you really think they will work out how to get at the Militray or a soft civilian target?.
The human and material cost of the war is always a problem, but lets put it into context, 30,000 dead a year in the US from gun related crime, major wars run up a casulaty return rate of 000s a month, so while every death and injury is a disatster for those involved, its actually not significant in the overal ability to prosecute a war. | |
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| Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? Posted: 11/5/2009 7:16:10 AM |
No one here has yet been able to say who the enemy is. Why are we there?
Um, we are there because President Obama, the House and the Senate have decided that we will stay there. Which part of that are you not understanding??
it's clear by your postings here that you have little if no compassion for life or the lives of your fellow Americans.)
No, earlier in this thread I said to bring 'em home if indeed OBL is no longer the target.
I guess the "staying on topic" theme is lost if we can play "The 6 Degrees of Kevin Bacon" with the topics.
1) "Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home" 2) "Home is where the heart is" 3) "The Heart pumps blood" 4) "Republicans are blood hungry war mongers wanting innocent people to die" 5) "120 people die every day due to evil Republicans here at home, in the US" 6) "Is it time to bring the troops home?"
Quit lying. I am a Republican. and I care about others. | |
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| Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? Posted: 11/5/2009 7:58:38 AM |
Um, we are there because President Obama, the House and the Senate have decided that we will stay there. Which part of that are you not understanding??
Not the answer to the question asked.
Question: Why are we there?
We are there, ostensibly, to look for Osama bin Laden, the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks on American citizens. We continue to be there for the same reason. Why we went in the first place had nothing to do with President Obama. (yeah, I know--he voted to go into Iraq)
Now those in control just want to point fingers, yet do nothing but sit on their hands.
Sitting on their hands and pointing fingers! Okay--that was funny...pointing fingers while sitting on their hands...funny visual... | |
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| Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? Posted: 11/10/2009 8:08:27 AM | Not gonna happen folks...the obammy just sent 30,000 more troops to Afghanistan. I do not think that is enough to secure what the General wants but it is better than doing nothing. I suggest you folks brush up on what is happening in Iran and Pakistan..things are heating up and I honestly believe that Israel and Iran are about to go at it...Not good for anyone.. | |
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| Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? Posted: 11/10/2009 8:32:56 PM |
I honestly believe that Israel and Iran are about to go at it...Not good for anyone..
If Israel goes ahead and attacks Iran with its usual swagger of impunity (a carte blanch attitude afforded it by the support of many past and present US Govts), then it is in for a very far reaching awakening with regards to the reciprocal actions the rest of the world will undoubtedly take in reply. Don't underestimate the displeasure of billions of "Joe Citizens" of the world that have had enough of Israel's stomping on human rights in Western Asia, the crux of Global Terrorism.
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| Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? Posted: 11/11/2009 9:18:27 AM | | Well Chiny...lets say this about your post. Iran has been threatening Israel for decade..You know..the whole Jewish state in the middle of Muslim nations thing..If Iran continues to try to build Nukes..keeps taking American and other citizens into custody and claiming they are spies...keeps suppling arms to Hezzbolla, Hamas and other TERRORIST groups..then you bet..Iran needs to be delt with. The leader of Iran and ol Achamaneedajacket are going to lead themselves into a war they can not win..I wish the US would turn Israel lose on them..the war would last no time at all.... | |
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| Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? Posted: 11/11/2009 9:54:38 AM | Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? AMEN! Long overdue, they should have never been sent in the first place. You do not beat terror with terror. War is terror..
We should have focused our resources on making sure that it would be much more difficult to attack us and make it as expensive as possible to attack us by staying here. Let them spend all their resources and time trying to figure out how to get at us. Instead we took to foolish road and made it as cheap as it gets to commit acts of terror on our citizens by sending them over there as troops. So now it is cheap to attack us, and easy to get more recruits because now the USA is acting just like they want. Every time a civilian gets caught in the crossfire more recruits for the terrorists.
Osama bin laden likely is no longer alive. He was said to be ill with terminal cancer before the war even started and was said, to be on dialysis for renal failure.
So think about it for a second barely alive all those years ago hiding in caves walking around on IVs and dialysis machine and cant be found for all these years. They probably recorded plenty of tapes or made people learn how to look like him and sound like him, to make new ones. Makes for the perfect bogey man that can never be found.
This is all a horse and pony show. | |
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| Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? Posted: 11/12/2009 3:11:32 AM |
Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? AMEN! Long overdue, they should have never been sent in the first place. You do not beat terror with terror. War is terror..
Your thinking of Ghandi comment that war is the terorism of the rich, and terrorism is the war of the poor, which is just another way of explaining that conflicts are fought aysemtricly.
How you claim that terror is not defeated by terror, which militray conflict/s are you aware of where this was the case?. | |
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| Is it Time to Bring the Troops Home? Posted: 11/12/2009 10:06:38 AM |
How you claim that terror is not defeated by terror, which militray conflict/s are you aware of where this was the case?.
http://acdalliance.org/node/413
That is not Gandhi speaking either that is a non-profit corporation that studies these sorts of things.
If we go back and study how the vast majority of other terrorist groups were stopped most were brought to the negotiating table, or dealt with by police forces. Using war to stop terror has a VERY poor track record. War is terror. It causes innocent people to suffer whom might start thinking what those terrorists guys are saying makes sense. Thus more passionate recruits. Invading them merely sets up the climate for insurgency, and quagmire. That's great news for the war profiteers but, bad news for the rest of the world. | |
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