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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 10/31/2009 8:56:20 AM |
Does there always have to be a Conspiracy Theory?
Absolutely … hehehehe … The never-ending Conspiracy Theory.
EnJoy your Day … Love and Peace always … in all ways | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 10/31/2009 11:08:04 AM | I've had the seasonal 'flu shot in half doses for about 8 years. Half doses because I'm so sensitive to meds. I also have an auto-immune condition.
I've haven't decided yet about the H1N1. It's the aduvant in it that concerns me. I do not need my immune system boosted. At the moment my feeling are to get the unaduvanted shot. I'm also wondering about the side-affects of that shot given my history. *sigh* | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 10/31/2009 7:55:11 PM | Yes got the H1N1 and the flu shot Friday lunchtime. I have diabetes and work for a group of pediatricians so we all need to be vaccinnated. We have premmies and babies with immune compromised systems and children with asthma, and other problems. Would hate to be the one to give them H1N1 by my being a carrier for the germs. My right arm where I got the H1N1 shot hurts like heck and I did not get a great night's sleep last night but hopefully will be right as rain for Monday morning's work.
Sandra. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/2/2009 9:11:02 PM | I am standing at the back of the line waiting for a shot which I may or may not get. The way I see it is most people will have had the shot before they get to me so why should I worry. 
I am surprised, actually amazed, by all of the people who are digging their heels in and saying they will not get the vaccine.
In many ways, this is what interests me most about the H1N1 story. I am also amazed and really saddened by the number of germaphobes amongst us. It really will be okay. H1N1 is not waiting to get us on every door handle.
It bothers me when people say that the H1N1 story is being blown way out of proportion. It is hard to know at this point in time. The story has just begun and the action has just begun to unfold. Wait and watch. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/4/2009 10:43:15 PM | Presently, I have the H1N1 flu - very nasty.
I am also one of those who almost never has flu shots. I do regret that I am so sick now and thankful that I have good friends to help me through this time, not to mention work responsibilities that others have taken care of for me ...
I no longer have a "choice" for a flu shot, but anything would be better than the symptoms I'm experiencing now. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/8/2009 2:57:57 AM | I got the shot, at my doctor's office. If the flu isn't at the height of its outbreak yet - why would you want to wait for it to get worse before getting immunized?
This Bear's had lots of flus. They are VERY different from the worst colds, and living alone can mean you wake up one day and find you can't even make it to the can to puke or get our arm to pick up a phone to call for help. It's SCARY.
ED BEAR | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/8/2009 4:36:20 AM | By CBC News, cbc.ca, Updated: November 6, 2009 5:17 PM
H1N1 overplayed by media, public health: MDs
Public health officials and journalists have overstated the importance of the swine flu, a former Ontario chief medical officer of health says.
Dr. Richard Schabas, chief medical officer of health for Hastings and Prince Edward Counties in eastern Ontario, said the H1N1 influenza outbreak needs to be put into proper perspective.
About 200,000 people die in Canada every year from all causes combined, including about 4,000 from seasonal flu.
"By the time all the dust has settled on H1N1, somewhere between 200 and 300 people will have died in this country," Schabas said Thursday during a panel on media coverage of H1N1 on CBC-TV's The National.
Schabas criticized the media for not trying to put the story into perspective, and for being "a little too easy to spin sometimes" by public health officials.
"I'm not letting the media off the hook totally, but I think the real villains of the piece here have been those public health officials who have consistently overplayed and overstated the importance of what is happening," he said.
"By the time all is said and done, this is not a major public health event, but you'd never know that from what some people are saying."
13-year-old's death
The panel also looked at the front-page coverage given to the death of Evan Frustaglio, a 13-year-old hockey player from Toronto. Evan died on the eve of the H1N1 vaccine becoming available, and demand for the vaccine jumped overnight, catching health officials by surprise.
"It was very clear when we were reporting the lines that most of the people in there did say, 'We came because we saw the story about that little boy,' " CBC reporter Ioanna Roumeliotis said.
Evan's death and his grieving father's plea to parents to consider vaccinating their children was a tremendous human interest story, agreed Dr. Allison McGeer, an infectious disease specialist at Toronto's Mount Sinai Hospital.
But "I'm quite sure that the people who were reporting that didn't necessarily think about what the consequences of that would be or the context that was in," McGeer said. "What we saw afterwards was that it caused an enormous amount of fear and anxiety that we would all like not to have seen."
A healthy child in Canada is about 20 times more likely to be killed by a car than by the H1N1 virus, Schabas said, but that isn't going to make the national news.
"Children actually die of flu every year and a few more die of H1N1. This was not unexpected, and the way it was presented — as if this was a sudden bolt out of the blue, some change in our perspective of H1N1 — that's what created the anxiety. It was the way it was presented." | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 1:52:39 AM |
and living alone can mean you wake up one day and find you can't even make it to the can to puke or get our arm to pick up a phone to call for help. It's SCARY.
ED BEAR.... you have more eloquently described, more than I have ever
been able to..... my migraine attacks. Not SCARY, anymore!
And it is still NO.... I am not getting a H1N1 shot. I am not jumping on
this mass-hysteria band-wagon. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 9:01:21 AM | I have h1n1 right now, it's just f'in awful.
and to think I could have avoided a week of sheer hell by just getting a shot.
stupid. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 1:14:58 PM | Several people here declare,they had/have the swine flu. How do they know, it's THE ONE? Their doctors told them? How the doctors know? Do they take your 'personal' bug under a microscop to identify it...or they have some crystal balls ???
2days ago, I heard ,that someone (with flu symptoms )went to a doctor to learn, she has h1n1,because she had a....chest pain! ....I think ,and most of you would agree, there can be many reasons for 'chest pain',...right? in her case could be side effect of excessive coughing,or she might to have some combination of flu with bronchitis,or....but I am not a doctor.
With whole(zero)respect to doctors of this continent (with only one exception of N.west ortho.surgeon),please don't believe in everything they say.
Stay healthy and sound.Bless You! | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 1:49:35 PM |
Several people here declare,they had/have the swine flu. How do they know, it's THE ONE? Their doctors told them? How the doctors know? Do they take your 'personal' bug under a microscop to identify it...or they have some crystal balls ???
They call it a blood test.
wow huh?
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 1:52:44 PM | ^^^ Apparently to confirm a H1Ni diagnosis, takes 5 days.
Oh, and was also told that takes up to 10 days after receiving the
vaccine for immunization to take effect. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 2:15:20 PM |
It bothers me when people say that the H1N1 story is being blown way out of proportion. It is hard to know at this point in time. The story has just begun and the action has just begun to unfold. Wait and watch. There is absolutely nothing new about H1N1.
H1N1 has been in North America since 1976, and so has the vaccine. It’s nothing more than a mutation of the bird flu which has been around since the late 50’s, which also has a vaccine.
Although there are variations from year to year, the number of people affected by the virus has remained quite consistent for the past 30 years, and this past year was no exception. There is even some evidence which indicates that more people may have been infected in 2007 & 2008.
Which begs the questions… why is it such a big deal in 2009? | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 3:05:16 PM | flyin-high
It’s nothing more than a mutation of the bird flu which has been around since the late 50’s, which also has a vaccine.
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Which begs the questions… why is it such a big deal in 2009?
In some way you've answered your own question. The flu virus has mutated.
The current mutation is exceptional relative to the previous strains, because:
* among its victims it is striking young, healthy people, who generally are more resistant to the previous strains, and in some cases killing them, very quickly,
* the symptoms are unusually severe and long-lasting. An acquaintance, age 50, was bed-ridden for an entire week and then very weak and exhausted for the following three weeks. No doubt there are many similar cases. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 3:19:09 PM | *** The reason it has become a big deal, is because of the potential numbers. Without vaccination, with a highly contagious virus, the numbers of people in the population that could be effected are much higher. The higher the numbers of infected population, the higher numbers of people who could be seriously affected; as well as the higher the numbers of those who could die. I am talking about an un-vaccinated population.
It is estimated that anywhere from 50 to 100 million people were killed worldwide in the 1918 flu pandemic.(wiki)
There are fears that swine flu will become a major global pandemic at the end of the year (coinciding with the Northern Hemisphere winter months), with many countries planning major vaccination campaigns.(wiki)
***The reason that you have not heard much in recent years is because it was not such a big deal, the numbers were low. The disease is now transmitting itself to many more people and the potential for disaster is enormous. There would be a great strain on our services. That does not even take into account those who are sick at home, needing GP assistance, or the care of family members. When they talk about the 1st, 2nd and 3rd waves being unusual in other years, that is what I believe they are referring to, the potential for increased numbers who may become seriously ill without vaccination, with this virus.
Media?? Yes, definitely. And too bad, because potentially, the media is our best hope for reaching the most amount of people. And during a pandemic, a more serious pandemic, we would need them desparately. However, for me watching all of this unfold, a greater concern, should the threat be more serious, is how well everything might unfold in the future.
(wiki - The vaccination program was plagued by delays and public relations problems. On October 1, 1976, immunizations began) in the US.
**Sound familiar
If this could be considered a trial run, with media, government services, frightened parents and public, we perhaps could consider ourselves lucky to get one, hopefully we will have learned from our mistakes and be ready for what the future might bring.
Reference: Wiki
The H1N1 form of swine flu is one of the descendants of the strain that caused the 1918 flu pandemic. As well as persisting in pigs, the descendants of the 1918 virus have also circulated in humans through the 20th century, contributing to the normal seasonal epidemics of influenza.] However, direct transmission from pigs to humans is rare, with only 12 cases in the U.S. since 2005.
Nevertheless, the retention of influenza strains in pigs after these strains have disappeared from the human population might make pigs a reservoir where influenza viruses could persist, later emerging to re-infect humans once human immunity to these strains has waned. (WIKI) | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 5:47:18 PM | My brother was diagnosed with H1N1 on Friday.
Saw him at dinner the previous day..he looked fine.
ya.. my kids saw him Friday afternoon.... in their words 'He looked like a zombie'.
sooooooooooo...anyhow...he is in isolation.... he lives with my elderly parents so I am very concerned. They were unable to get vaccinated the previous week because they were sick with the regular influenza virus.
so... sucks eh? Me and the kids are vaccinated but yup...it takes @ 8-10 days for the body to have immunity...so we are sticking close to home... washing hands with soap... only using the sanitizer stuff when we can't wash.
**** there was note at my doc's office last week...reccomendations *******
the notice stated that Tamiflu...which is the vaccine they give for the season flu apparently just lessens the symptoms...it does not prevent you from getting the flu.
**** Gargling with warm water and salt twice a day for 30 seconds works the same as taking Tamiflu*****
I swear that is what it read. The source was Shopper's Drugmart. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 6:13:36 PM |  Here's wishing good health to you and your family WWR, and the rest of the pond too!  It's really a shame all this additional stress this flu season. I saw on the news that it is increasing the depression and anxiety for those already susceptible to those conditions. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 6:33:50 PM | (an email forward)
This is a serious list of things to do. Simple, but looks like they could help. The part about cleaning out the nostrils is simple with a "netty pot" that you can get at health food stores or pharmacies. I saw it on Oprah before but never thought of it as a preventative--probably a very good thing to do.
Dr. Vinay Goyal is an MBBS,DRM,DNB (Intensivist and Thyroid
specialist) having clinical experience of over 20 years. He has worked
in institutions like Hinduja Hospital , Bombay Hospital , Saifee
Hospital , Tata Memorial etc.. Presently, he is heading our Nuclear
Medicine Department and Thyroid clinic at Riddhivinayak Cardiac and
Critical Centre, Malad (W).
The only portals of entry are the nostrils and mouth/throat. In a
global epidemic of this nature, it's almost impossible to avoid coming
into contact with H1N1 in spite of all precautions. Contact with H1N1
is not so much of a problem as proliferation is.
While you are still healthy and not showing any symptoms of H1N1
infection, in order to prevent proliferation, aggravation of symptoms
and development of secondary infections, some very simple steps, not
fully highlighted in most official communications, can be practiced
(instead of focusing on how to stock N95 or Tamiflu):
1. Frequent hand-washing (well highlighted in all official communications).
2. "Hands-off-the-face" approach. Resist all temptations to touch any
part of face (unless you want to eat, bathe or slap).
3. *Gargle twice a day with warm salt water (use Listerine if you
don't trust salt). *H1N1 takes 2-3 days after initial infection in the
throat/ nasal cavity to proliferate and show characteristic symptoms.
Simple gargling prevents proliferation. In a way, gargling with salt
water has the same effect on a healthy individual that Tamiflu has on
an infected o ne. Don't underestimate this simple, inexpensive and
powerful preventative method.
4. Similar to 3 above, *clean your nostrils at least once every day
with warm salt water. *Not everybody may be good at Jala Neti or Sutra
Neti (very good Yoga asanas to clean nasal cavities), but *blowing the
nose hard once a day and swabbing both nostrils with cotton buds
dipped in warm salt water is very effective in bringing down viral
population.*
5. *Boost your natural immunity with foods that are rich in Vitamin C
(Amla and other citrus fruits). *If you have to supplement with
Vitamin C tablets, make sure that it also has Zinc to boost
absorption.
6. *Drink as much of warm liquids (tea, coffee, etc) as you can.
*Drinking warm liquids has the same effect as gargling, but in the
reverse direction. They wash off proliferating viruses from the throat
into the stomach where they cannot survive, proliferate or do any
harm.. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 7:23:17 PM | No point getting a shot that is not available and have just got over the nasty little bud.
Also seems that you need the dough to move ahead of the needy. Bunch of selfish hockey players to say the least. | |
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Posted: 11/9/2009 9:01:54 PM | You know if you have the chance to get the shot and dont, I think you are really taking a chance. Listen to what the people who have it are saying. It sounds nasty.
Also, don't you think when you get the vaccine you do it for other people too? Because none of us want to be carriers of a flu that can be potentially deadly, do we?
As for conspiracy theories, I think people have better things to do with their time.
However, I understand that some people may be concerned because the vaccine was a rush job. This is what bugs me. I suppose we have to take chances at times and trust in the greater good. | |
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| H1N1 vaccine. Are you getting a shot?
Posted: 11/9/2009 9:40:59 PM |
You know if you have the chance to get the shot and dont, I think you are really taking a chance. Listen to what the people who have it are saying. It sounds nasty.
Also, don't you think when you get the vaccine you do it for other people too? Because none of us want to be carriers of a flu that can be potentially deadly, do we?
Too much drama. Flu, whether an older strain or the latest H1N1, mutation, can cause serious illness but it's not a killer disease to panic over, nor even one which requires special precautions. Every time you eat out you're taking a chance on getting food poisoning, Hepatitis A, and probably other illnesses which are all as dangerous as the flu - yet people don't panic and reshape their lives over those, they just take the risk in stride.
Yes, this strain of flu is new, but new flu strains are hardly a new thing. We've all survived previous exposure to many strains of flu totally new to our immune systems and are overwhelmingly likely to survive exposure to this one, too.
If you choose to go the route of taking vaccinations to lessen that already-small risk and make your life more convenient, that's your choice, but nobody should feel bad or guilty for deciding otherwise.
If a deadly strain DOES come along (ie H5N1 mutates and starts spreading from person to person), then it's time to worry. Until then, go re-read the story of the boy who cried wolf. | |
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Posted: 11/9/2009 10:17:38 PM | If a deadly strain DOES come along
My reading suggests that it is not a matter of ...if... it's a matter of when. Those strains have already shown themselves and were contained. On farms, and military bases in different parts of the world supposedly. Mutation also seems even more likely to be an issue as cross mutation makes the strain more difficult to deal with, and easier for it to adapt and cross the species barrier. Where there's smoke there's fire?
Although it may be true that there is little to be concerned about in comparison to other flu strains other years, this virus is exhibiting changes. That means that what ever hairbrained techniques we come up with this time around to deal with potentially life-threatening viruses, could save many many lives during some future outbreak. How we deal with this virus is important.
I agree, nobody should feel bad or guilty for deciding not to get the vaccinations. It is a personal decision, and neither should you allow someone to make you feel you are being too dramatic either :) Particularly when there are times and situations when that decision, might be made much more difficult. Work, volunteer, elderly relatives, etc. When it comes to the wellbeing of those you love, maybe we don't all act as rational as we might in other circumstances, but that is to be expected. And maybe it serves its purpose as well too?
The 'Boy Who Cried Wolf" made up a fantasy in order to get attention :( Do you really think this is the same situation? Really? or are you hoping to calm tattered nerves :)
I would 'bet my bottom dollar' that the public health organizations are going to be working 'long and hard' on strategy well into next flu season  | |
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