| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 10/31/2009 4:30:03 PM | i did this once, years ago. i was the one who suggested it. i guess i wanted a date where no one had to spend money. but i did plenty of research on the guy beforehand. he's a college professor, so i had a pretty easy time finding out about him, and i felt pretty secure.
i'd never do it again, though, unless i planned to attend something like a maple harvest festival or some other public event the nature centers hold around here. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 10/31/2009 4:31:52 PM | | Coffee shop is the ONLY place for first meetings. I would never consider any other options. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 10/31/2009 4:54:19 PM |
Think of the old Elmer Fudd saying "2 go out but only one comes back".
...or Mad Max "two men enter,one man leave!" | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 10/31/2009 5:21:49 PM | Some people have a wacky sense of humor ... distinguishing between them and those that are seriously 'crazy and deranged' (I like that song !!!) ... takes time ...
Sadly because some people can't tell the difference that kind of spontaneity is risky.
Have fun !!!
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 10/31/2009 6:01:22 PM | Doesnt mean your MOM thinks youre a nice guy that I should trust your mom's stamp of approval and go in the middle of a forest with a stranger!
You know what I tell these geniuses? I ask them if they would like their daughter going on a date like that. Most times, they finally get it.
Everyone is someone's daughter.
Fack, even before internet dating I wouldn't go in the woods for a first date. Frankly, when I meet a man with children and he suggests something like this, I'm not interested in going out with him anymore.
And I don't go to men's houses for a first date either. I also bring my drink with me when I go to the bathroom.
You know, I learned all these things from my mom and internet dating wasn't around then. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 10/31/2009 9:38:49 PM | Worst yet ... What about those women that want to have a Drink, Then get a guy to go on a long walk on the beach ,, ya right and use you for crab bait.
or That walk in the park , feed you to the pigeons
I'm scared after those two redheads giving that guy a ride, They found him two weeks later a 100 miles away,, cut up in pieces and in the trunk. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 10/31/2009 11:02:36 PM | | Hmmm Did he ask you to bring a few trash bags? and duct tape? For that romantic walk in the woods? | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 12:15:27 AM | Why aren't guys scared? I could take him up on the walk in the woods or go back to his place and sexually assault him and commit a homicidal act on him.
So he should care about his wellbeing and security too.
But they don't.
So since they don't care about their wellbeing and security - that gives me free range to take advantage of it. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 12:25:45 AM | | ^^^^^^^^^^ really? What is different about YOU taking advantage? Makes you equally culpable. Dating isn't about talking advantage- on either side of the gender fence. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 1:10:29 AM |
Think of the old Elmer Fudd saying "2 go out but only one comes back".
Or maybe 2 go out and 3 come back? ....  | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 1:45:02 AM |
really? What is different about YOU taking advantage? Makes you equally culpable. Dating isn't about talking advantage- on either side of the gender fence.  I never said dating was about taking an advantage of anyone. And I didn't say I wasn't responsible for my behavior and what I may do to him. My point was that I could just as easily take an advantage of a guy - so why aren't they as scared or apprehensive about what they do as women are?
It's a kind of a rhetorical question really. I pretty much already know the responses to that.
But guys should start to think about their wellbeing and self-protection as much as women do. It would change their attitude about so many things and probably make them better people overall. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 1:39:31 AM |
It is safer because you are meeting and getting to know one another in public. Not many serial killers are going to do it right in the middle of a restaurant or supermarket.
No, but the reality is where exactly do you think they "shop for their victims"???
My roommate and best friend are both cops and the stats show that crimes resulting /originating from internet dating fall WAY behind what happens out there every day...
As for finding bodies in the woods...It actually seems that the trunks of cars in a parking lot, (ironically, USUALLY a supermarket or shopping centre, parking lot) are the most "popular" places for dumping bodies...
There are NO hard and fast rules for staying safe...and in EVERY situation I can probably give an example of someone who was attacked/killed while believing they were "safe|, so...while it's good to be cautious, you can't live in a protective bubble...
Use the good common sense that you were given... | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 1:43:05 AM | kat.. 
lets thank god that 99.9% of this murder, rape and mayhem takes place right here on this site, in these threads. In the minds of .................. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 4:27:36 PM | I took this woman on a first date. We went to a very busy Fall Festival. On the way back to my car I suggested we take a shortcut. Taking the railroad tracks through the woods. About halfway I tied her to the railroad tracks. And the train was coming. My dastardly plan was about to succeed. She screamed and screamed and then out of nowhere came Dudley Doo Right.  Ahhhhhh Foiled Again
Seriously though, for every not so bright man that would propose a first meeting such as you mention, there is a not so bright woman who would make the same suggestion. Who knows if they have bad intentions or they just aren't thinking. Either way it's not worth the risk.
Just say No. The End. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 4:37:15 PM | | i used to have ppl meet me at the grocery stores lmao, its public! the idiots were like i dont wanna meet there i said well we aint meeting at the park. i gave a list of public places where i knew and they said i dont like those places i said ur shit outta luck then i guess we dont meet. some of them i didnt meet not with that attitude. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 7:07:04 PM |
No, but the reality is where exactly do you think they "shop for their victims"???
My roommate and best friend are both cops and the stats show that crimes resulting /originating from internet dating fall WAY behind what happens out there every day...
Well, my first thought to the above is, "What a completely useless statistic." Why? Think about how many people use internet dating worldwide. Now think of how many people that go to restaurants and supermarkets everyday. Which do you think is larger?
As for finding bodies in the woods...It actually seems that the trunks of cars in a parking lot, (ironically, USUALLY a supermarket or shopping centre, parking lot) are the most "popular" places for dumping bodies...
Well:
1) I'll apologize for the inference of "finding body" comparison statement. What I was meaning to infer with that the reason why the bodies are found at the specific locations is because of the act committed there prior in the night. So, are you saying that more people are murdered at supermarkets and restaurants during store hours than out in the woods?
2) Do you have any data to back up the claim of body discovery location statistics? The reason why I say it is that I'd dubious of such a claim due to one thing: security cameras. They're normally rolling 24 hours a day taping the parking lot. A serial killer who would really want to be captured would be the only one that would take a parking lot over the forests. (Amazingly, not many video camera are being utilized by squirrels ...)
There are NO hard and fast rules for staying safe...and in EVERY situation I can probably give an example of someone who was attacked/killed while believing they were "safe|, so...while it's good to be cautious, you can't live in a protective bubble...
Use the good common sense that you were given...
Ok, no argument there. Thus, where in common sense does it say that it is a great idea to meet a guy alone out in the forest for the first time? | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 9:48:55 PM | First meets, heck even the first couple of dates, should be in public places. It all depends oin your comfort level though, I guess.
Places I won't go on a first meet or date...
The woods or any outdoor secluded area
His house
My house
I will almost always drive my own car and meet them. Always have cash or a card on me to cover my own expenses. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/1/2009 11:13:55 PM | Yes I have to agree that asking a woman out for a walk in the woods on a first date is a bad idea.......having said that I might be open to it if she was to ask me. The whole idea of wannabe vampirism twilight-style in the woods sounds great to me, almost as good as a Blair Witch hunt!!  | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/2/2009 3:58:08 AM |
Actually if you've ever LIVED in the country then you know that it's MORE difficult to get away with something THERE than in a crowded city...Sheer numbers of people ensure more privacy AND anonymity in the city...
Yeah, because from the inference here I've never lived in the country apparently for it is very well known that none exists in the United States.
In fact, my experience is mostly based on the desert. (Arizona and New Mexico) Let me tell you - you can murder someone in the desert and bury the body, and nobody will ever find the body and know it happened.
Now, as for actually *committing* the murder around sheer numbers of people instead of doing it alone out in the middle of nowhere ... wow, that is one dedicated serial murderer there ...
As for arguing with people over the validity of whether or not it's a good idea to meet someone in the woods for a first date...
Obviously you failed to read the LAST line of my prior message, wherein I stated that people should use their common sense...Which I can tell...is getting very little exercise around here these days...
Yeah, you stated that. However, you never bridged whether meeting someone for the first time out in the middle of the woods alone is an example of exercising common sense. To you, does it make common sense? The reason why I ask it that at times common sense can be subjective on face value. For example, operating a hair dryer while taking a bath can save people time, and it is more convenient to smoke in bed while watching TV late at night. That's the whole reason for the post in the first place - just a calibration check with others to make sure her judgment of common sense is not skewed.
As for the documentation, I was just curious if you did have it. After all, I'm not saying that I have any evidence to say the opposite. And I did offer why I'm asking - the security camera. Yeah, there are sheer numbers of people in those locations, but with a camera you can pick out candidates, cars, what time the event happened, etc. Thus, I wasn't getting a "warm fuzzy" about that statistic, hence the reason for my skepticism. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/2/2009 5:34:57 AM |
My roommate and best friend are both cops and the stats show that crimes resulting /originating from internet dating fall WAY behind what happens out there every day...
I've known that for years - why others assume that the internet or phone dating is any worse is beyond me. But in any case, one should excise caution in all cases. Bars are probably the worst place. I'm from a big city and moved to Ottawa and the lax I see in Ottawa bars is pretty bad. People leave their drinks, their purses everywhere. But in general I find many people in bars not to be vigilant of their surroundings and what is going on. | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/2/2009 7:17:44 AM | kimberish
i think they especially like the cash and credit card part, helps cover their expense related to the serial killer occupation, you know, shovel, duct tape, plastic bags........
oh sorry just having a post halloween sinister, scary moment....
kaylee | |
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| Let's take a walk in the woods
Posted: 11/2/2009 7:59:56 AM |
I dont mean to be paranoid, but this is the internet and you have to be careful!!!! Oh yes, absolutely... let's not trust anyone at any time for anything! After all, meeting for a coffee in a well lit coffee shop is so much better and allows you to get to really know someone on a level where you can then let your guard down... 
Seriously... if I were ever concerned with personal safety, I wouldn't meet the man at all... and I wouldn't continue corresponding with him either.
An absolutely great first meet I had was during the winter a couple of years ago, going for an evening walk around the boardwalk... there wasn't another soul in sight and the view was incredible... amazingly enough, I'm not some blood smear or statistic either...
Use common sense... and remember, the guys that are the true predators are savvy enough to deal with public meetings and such... | |
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