IMO, it's perfectly possible to have sex for the sake of enjoyment- what it takes to enjoy it is different for each individual.

Then when it turns out to be either a one night stand, or something other than a LTR they feel badly because of the story they built up in their heads about it.

If men werent conditioned to label women who have sex because they enjoy it as sluts, both genders might get along a whole lot better.

Simply not true? Again, your opinion, please present your evidence.

There is an entire frickn sex industry that caters to satisfying the sexual desires of men. It's no secret (outside these boards) that men want sex. What world are you guys living in?

A man can have a daughter whom he does not desire any harm to come to them physically or emotionaly but they can hurt woman emotionaly and physically all they want. What ever happened to fathers setting the example for their children. This is a lost art. So to all the premuscuise fathers - when your daughters grow up and get in abusive relationships or even used time and time again look in the mirror. Even if your child does not see it they will not know how to expect a man to treat them if it is not lived in front of them.

And there’s the evidence that angry Neanderthals with small penises still exist! Give the guy in the wife beater a beer please! Archie Bunker has found a friend!

there’s the evidence that angry Neanderthals with small penises still exist! Give the guy in the wife beater a beer please!

Your theory of every man being capable of non-emotional sex isn't true

In typical fashion of many pof women, you are making judgments about someone you do not know

But I think you can train yourself to be more prepared for the instances of bad sex partners( whatever that means to each individual person),therefore sustaining LESS pain,harm, disappointment, whatever.

It's fascinating to see how many people keep repeating the same old stuff..."I can't have sex unless I'm in love" ...fine, some people do prefer a connection of some kind....but how can you possibly fall in love with someone WITHOUT the sex?

you accuse one man of being dishonest when he says he needs "love" to have sex.

I bet that guy can speak for himself better than you can speak for him.

Your theory of every man being capable of non-emotional sex isn't true

It's your fantasy.. make it whatever you like.

Falling in love and being in a committed relationship is great. It is what we are all after. To suggest that sex is only enjoyable under such circumstances is beyond ludicrous.

You are making a judgment about someone you do not know when you accuse one man of being dishonest when he says he needs "love" to have sex. I bet that guy can speak for himself better than you can speak for him.

ever wondered why you're single?

the internet is full of bitter arseholes

the day when some guy is banging your daughter for recreational sex.

I need a beer.

I can't have sex with someone I don't love.

your subsequent speculation, are irrelevant.

slightly effeminate looking tennis coaches, who seem to need to prove their manliness to make up for their rather feminine facial features, and a proffession which screams ' Lothario of a proffessional kind'

but for me to totally let go and immerse myself in sex, I have to have feelings for him and he has to have feelings for me.

Sex can generate a whole world of emotions in women...especially the bonding type.

My mother or any other influential woman did not counsel me to be this way (social conditioning) as I am of the generation where our mothers didn't talk about sex. It was a subject that was not to be discussed other than "don't get pregnant...and good girls are not promiscuous." Most of us women discovered our sexuality on our own. Just like most men did. Instinctual.
There wasn't the heavy advertising of sex, nor were there anything blatantly sexual in the media except Marilyn Monroe.
One of the most blatant sex manipulation"cards" used on here is the fact "that we women are conditioned from our mothers to be like the way were are sexually and that we were taught to think sex is a tool.." Nope...nope...nope. Hands up, any woman from my generation that had a mother sit down and be very frank about sex. If there was, it is a rarity. Most of the time subject was evaded.

lol...I am glad that you said it. I, as a woman, know that alot of men do feel this way about sex and that is exactly the reason why I don't enter into casual sex/flings.

And I think it's pretty lame that sex is considered a functional/mechanical act, unless there is love. I don't think I believe that for one minute? Maybe it is the person you choose to have sex with, and the chemistry between the two of you...because without love, there still can be passion.

I've heard many men from this forum use that phrase, that they think we are trading sex for a relationship.... They just don't get it that most of us are not trading at all, we are just waiting until we decide if we like them enough to have sex with them, and that usually takes more than a couple of hours of their company..

and sex is infinitly better when in love!!!

In my experience, some of the absolute best, mind-blowing sex I've ever had was with someone I barely knew, and some of the worst and least satisfying was with someone I loved greatly and was within a long term relationship.

Love is not necessary for great sex - at least for me.

IMO, it's perfectly possible to have sex for the sake of enjoyment- what it takes to enjoy it is different for each individual. I do think that many women are conditioned- by society, not their mothers- that if they have sex without love that makes them some kind of slut. Therefor they cannot allow themselves to just have sex with someone they are attracted to, without attaching some parameters of love around it. Then when it turns out to be either a one night stand, or something other than a LTR they feel badly because of the story they built up in their heads about it. The disconnect between their false expectations and reality causes that feeling of being used. If we can allow ourselves to just acknowledge our sexuality without expecting love, we wouldn't feel badly in those situations, but would rather just enjoy the moment.

women don't view sex as bad. We love it. On our terms.

Too much of this musical beds, promiscuity, ONS, and FBs have left women feeling like they have to gear up and lock down their emotions and hearts to play the man's game.

To Splendere,
You took my words and quoted them out of context. i asked Only this how HE would feel about this happening to his daughter, which only he can answer, if he chose to, and he chose not to, which is telling.
You are speculating on what his daughter may feel,... no one can know that, therefore your misquote of my words, and your subsequent speculation, are irrelevant.

Then again, I too am in love with all whom I make love with……..at that moment. I’ve been known to make such proclamations, “I love…..how you feel------”.

I can do just fine with lust; in fact I fall in lust before I fall in love.

I can't have sex with someone I don't love.