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 Jo van

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Posted: 11/6/2009 5:36:50 AM

The research powers that be reckon the happiest groups of people are married men and single women, which might have something to do with it!

Typical! Bloody married men having their cake and erm.. eating it!
No wonder they're happy!

I found this, which might be what they were referring to:
http://news.scotsman.com/comment/What39s-the-formula-for-the.5784419.jp

A study carried out by Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Bristol universities in 2005 found that the likelihood of marriage increased by 35 per cent for men for each 16 point increase in IQ, whereas for women, there was a 40 per cent drop for each 16 point rise, suggesting either that men aren't interested in clever women, or that clever women have no interest in getting married.

The whole piece is quite interesting, as it talks about age gaps and backgrounds etc, and the chances of relationships enduring. And suitable 'matches' etc.
It also mentions dating sites!

But is it that men are less interested in clever women,
or that clever women are less interested in men?
 23xkaTiEx

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Posted: 11/6/2009 5:55:45 AM
I think this is an interesting topic.

I do not believe that IQ is an accurate measure of intelligence. It gives a picture of a persons verbal and non verbal reasoning skills, but not of other factors that people may consider part of intelligence, for example memory, wit, wisdom, humour etc.

So while a person may have an IQ of say 125 (which is above the average 100) they may be frightfully dull and have a memory like a sieve.

I take alot of pride from my academic success, and the that I am 'intelligent', and I do look for similar things in a partner. I have found in the past that if I date a man who is not on a par with me I soon get frustrated and so does he.

My current partner is intelligent but in a different way to me. For example I am good at the books and research type of intelligence and I have a good memory. Where as he has an awful memory but is very logical and has an awful lot of common sense which I also see as intelligent.
 malibucarol

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Posted: 11/6/2009 6:29:22 AM
she wasent that clever that she let you near her laptop .
 Gucci Girl

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Posted: 11/6/2009 6:38:33 AM
Coool, just so i have got this right, its not that im fussy, picky, moody, high maintainance, and as shallow as a puddle, its cos i is brainy
 vwulme

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Posted: 11/6/2009 6:42:19 AM

The research powers that be reckon the happiest groups of people are married men and single women, which might have something to do with it!

Typical! Bloody married men having their cake and erm.. eating it!
No wonder they're happy!


Who needs cake when the world is your oyster........................

Intelligence and common sense can be swept away by the lurve bug, physical stimulation is one thing, but its bye bye baby when the intellectual simulation is missing.
 gardentree

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Posted: 11/6/2009 6:50:20 AM

A study carried out by Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Bristol universities in 2005 found that the likelihood of marriage increased by 35 per cent for men for each 16 point increase in IQ, whereas for women, there was a 40 per cent drop for each 16 point rise, suggesting either that men aren't interested in clever women, or that clever women have no interest in getting married.



"men aren't interested in clever women" = they are not being given options by men

"clever women have no interest in getting married." = well just that, whatever the reason

Im going to assume that success and intelligence are going hand in hand.
Im going to next assume that being intelligent, they will have worked out what sort of men they want ..... And have been unsuccessful at getting them. Maybe theres not that many of them.

Does this mean theres anther thing to add to their possible list?
 lulu1402

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Posted: 11/6/2009 10:54:40 AM
men like women who are more likely to be reliant on them not bright clever women who are perfectly capable to do thing for themselfs and have interests out side the home , and are good at their own job
 aitche

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Posted: 11/6/2009 11:31:35 AM
Is there an assumption that if you're not married you're single? What about those of us who don't want to get married/cohabit but still be in a relationship - where do we come on the sliding scale? Or would that warrant another study?


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 JO01

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Posted: 11/6/2009 11:31:53 AM
got to be fair I was pretty stupid to get married, and after a bloody long time came to my senses. to clever to get caught again.
 anniesea

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Posted: 11/6/2009 11:43:16 AM

A study carried out by Aberdeen, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Bristol universities in 2005 found that the likelihood of marriage increased by 35 per cent for men for each 16 point increase in IQ, whereas for women, there was a 40 per cent drop for each 16 point rise, suggesting either that men aren't interested in clever women, or that clever women have no interest in getting married.

Question: What was the base IQ of the men? 16% of not a lot is still not a lot... (That's a half-joke.) But on the other hand, perhaps the half that's not a joke is also important. Men perform on average less well than women on IQ tests.

"Females tend to do better overall on IQ tests; they average out at about 100, while men average about 99. Also, more men are mentally retarded. But when you look at IQs at 135 and above, you see more men."

Source: http://discovermagazine.com/2005/oct/sex

(The whole article is a little out-of-date but is a good explanation of the reasons for the fact that more men appear at the extremes of the intelligence spectrum. All due to the fact that intelligence is carried on the X-chromosome. Yup, it comes from the mother... or paternal grandmother.)

Was this choice now made by women always in existence or is it a choice enabled by modern society's acceptance of the spinster managing her own income and her own life? I wonder what the figures would show if it wasn't just marriage but also long-term relationships that were counted.

What is the evolutionary advantage at play here in the OP's question about gender attitudes to intelligence? Do we seek to marry those who match our attributes or do we choose our mate from those equal to and those above our "status"?

Could it be that for the man, greater intelligence makes him a more attractive person to a woman? That would give him a larger admiring fan-base from which to make his selection of mate and so fewer higher-IQ men are left on the shelf. For a clever woman, she has to contend not only with other clever women to capture the man but also with those who are less intelligent than her. It may not be her choice to not marry...
 Labdien!

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Posted: 11/6/2009 12:32:18 PM
How about "Most guys are terrified of a woman with a brain". Maybe that would explain why brainy women are less likely to get married......... no one will ask them!

 JO01

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Posted: 11/6/2009 12:37:33 PM
oh thats why he asked me no brain thats bloody true
 RobinsonX

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Posted: 11/6/2009 1:13:19 PM


Females tend to do better overall on IQ tests; they average out at about 100, while men average about 99. Also, more men are mentally retarded. But when you look at IQs at 135 and above, you see more men


IQ isn't a test of intelligence as such, more a test of adaptation to modernity. I think there are lots of different ways of being clever over and above solving little puzzles. Some of the thickest women I know are very clever indeed!

I think what we've learnt from this study is that us tax-payers are funding lots of rather pointless scientific activity.
 Penelope232

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Posted: 11/6/2009 1:16:23 PM
Well, I'm educated to doctorate level and have been married twice. IQ tests are not, of course, academic, although there is I suppose a relationship. And although I may not marry again (burnt my fingers too often), would still like to live with a partner with a long term perspective. But I've got the choice.... am quite picky now, a partner's got to be really special to tempt me out of my single existence.
 ~~*mitzi*~~

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Posted: 11/6/2009 1:27:11 PM
All that money wasted on scientific research..on IQ tests.

Well they weren’t that brainy….they could have come on POF..

And got all the information they needed for free.
 Elphie07

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Posted: 11/6/2009 4:37:57 PM
An intelligent woman doesn't have to take anyone to the cleaners and can get her own house if she wants one....
 ~*chelle~shock*~

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Posted: 11/6/2009 5:28:22 PM
I chose to marry once - never again! I guess that means am clever now!
 Kieran.1981

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Posted: 11/6/2009 5:50:38 PM
I wouldn't want to date a brainy woman, and I would never receive interest from one anyway, I think us men want to be the more intelligent one in a relationship, and the clever women want to be the "independent woman" something you hear a lot about nowadays.
 Joneeboy

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Posted: 11/6/2009 6:21:25 PM
Well call me a dumb ass, I’ve done it once…won’t be doing it again! So if any intelligent women…no wait thats trawling, or attention seeking!
 IcePie

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Posted: 11/7/2009 1:45:48 AM

I think us men want to be the more intelligent one in a relationship,

Horses for courses. I could never be attracted to a woman who is significantly dumber than me.

and the clever women want to be the "independent woman" something you hear a lot about nowadays.

I want to be "independent" too, but that doesn't preclude a meaningful relationship.
 Martini216

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Posted: 11/7/2009 9:04:23 AM
I didnt realise there was such a thing as a brainy woman....you learn something new everyday !!!!!
 mibeloved

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Posted: 11/7/2009 12:03:31 PM
forgot to put an s on gets more difficult
 Kieran.1981

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Posted: 11/7/2009 12:05:29 PM
Yeah there's also such thing as an "independent woman." What it actually means is "we hate men" lol
 mibeloved

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Posted: 11/7/2009 12:05:55 PM
Brainy/clever women want the same in their male counterparts. A woman over fifty has enough problems just trying to find a male friend let alone get married.
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