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 soulfire37

Joined: 10/24/2009
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Posted: 11/7/2009 5:47:00 PM
Well , my career has nothing to do with whether I married or not and in fact just because a person has a career or high IQ doesnt make them intelligent in life ..but I do agree that a career can take over and time is probably the issue but that is the same for men right ??

stats are all about measurement so if they base there findings on 100 people or career women/men they reseached its not giving a true picture really

I think people are single because everyone is nuts myself haha ..(me included)
 Seeking Mr Meldrew

Joined: 4/30/2009
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Posted: 11/8/2009 2:56:25 AM
Intelligent women choose not to marry in haste maybe, setting more store by what is under the surface, and finding out if the wrapper holds exactly whats on the label description. Intelligent men do it for me every time, and if they are funny too, then Im done for, but I wouldnt want a trip to Gretna Green included thank you. Beauty, Brains, and giggles, and not wanting to run up the aisle, an impossible ask maybe?!
 Jo van

Joined: 5/23/2009
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Posted: 11/8/2009 3:58:17 AM

but I wouldnt want a trip to Gretna Green included thank you. Beauty, Brains, and giggles, and not wanting to run up the aisle, an impossible ask maybe?!


This echoes what others have said, and I agree, that the institution of "marriage" itself, isn't necessary for a relationship. I have never married, but was with my ex for 27 years, and I know other couples in similar, 'voluntary', relationships.
http://news.scotsman.com/comment/What39s-the-formula-for-the.5784419.jp

I wondered if it was something more basic, like successful men, who have their 'pick' of women, may prefer a 'brain-dead bimbo' to someone who is going to challenge, or question their actions/thoughts? A Sort of 'trophy-wife' syndrome. And in doing this, he remains firmly 'in charge'.
Perhaps men choose thicker women because of their own inadequacies .
Perhaps men are frightened/challenged by strong, intelligent women, and choose the path of 'least resistance'?
Strangely, The piece goes on to say that the 'marriages' most likely to succeed, are those where the woman is about 5 years younger, and better educated than her partner!
Which does seem slightly contradictory...
Do all you clever girls, need to dumb-down to hook a mate?!
Perhaps the true sign of intelligence in a woman is the mastery of eyelash fluttering and giggling?
 Ismene2

Joined: 3/28/2009
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Posted: 11/8/2009 4:14:50 AM
Clever men are more likely to be successful, i.e. wealthy. Doesn't make them more likely to want to get married, it just makes them more attractive to gold diggers. Unless you believe that it was Paul McCartney's and Bernie Ecclestone's sex appeal that got them their model wives.

Clever women are a threat to stupid men, so stupid men won't want to marry them. The clever men have already been snapped up by the gold diggers. I suppose a clever woman has more of a chance if she can:

A) Meet a man clever enough to not be threatened and to have avoided the gold diggers, or
B) Suck a ping pong ball through a garden hose.
In general, I agree with this. Intelligent men are more likely to be successful and attractive to more women (not necessarily gold diggers, just women looking for a stable wage earner and responsible man). Unfortunately, it seems many men are intimidated or threatened by intelligent women--maybe they feel it is a threat to their manhood if the woman is smarter.

I think it is true that a smart woman needs to meet a smart man who is not threatened by her intelligence. This can be a challenge.
 Steve Bungle

Joined: 10/12/2009
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Posted: 11/8/2009 4:26:10 AM
Who'd want to marry a brainy woman?
Here's the proof of the pud:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjxY9rZwNGU
Know your limits!
 Ismene2

Joined: 3/28/2009
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Posted: 11/8/2009 4:36:53 AM
^^^Seen it before. Love it. Very funny.
 IcePie

Joined: 9/19/2009
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Posted: 11/8/2009 4:37:20 AM

Who'd want to marry a brainy woman?
Well there's me for a start and I assume I'm not alone.

I couldn't possibly maintain a relationship in which the conversation never gets beyond X-Factor and the simple fact is intelligent women are better in bed.
 Steve Bungle

Joined: 10/12/2009
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Posted: 11/8/2009 4:49:44 AM
If you look at the overall context of my post / question, you'll find that it was very tongue in cheek.
You may have a point regarding the quality of sex & brainy woman connection.
It's something I've yet to discover - to find a smart enough woman who isn't put off by me!
 gardentree

Joined: 3/20/2009
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Posted: 11/8/2009 10:31:54 AM
Anyone simply considered they opt to co-habit only instead of marry?
After realising that they may make a loss in divorce?

Its possible, no?

Perhaps some guys are threatened by a smart woman, perhaps some smart women feel a need to impress on the guy how smart they are, perhaps ....

Perhaps some of them are just sexy classy ladies. I like someone that can hold a good conversation. Screw the analysis.
 SuziSu68

Joined: 7/18/2009
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Posted: 11/8/2009 10:39:54 AM

The research powers that be reckon the happiest groups of people are married men and single women, which might have something to do with it!


that's because they are all shagging around, difference is men are happily doing that whilst still married and women have more morals

oops I can feel a bashing coming my way
 soulfire37

Joined: 10/24/2009
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Posted: 11/8/2009 10:52:36 AM
hehe , thats probably half true as well

I agree with the above that a smart guy when they meet a smart woman cant handle the challenges that woman brings as in they are not easily fooled ;) , especially if they like to be the dominant partner.

I would never dumb myself down for anyone as whats the point its going to come out sooner or later lol

I also lived with someone for 15 years and never felt the need to marry until it was its now or never so I was married for 1 week, didnt change anything so I have no rush or feel the need to be married or live with anyone, I dont have the need to date random people either ..maybe I just like being on my own , but some people just dont get that which is fair enough I guess

all to their own as they say ;)

although I could do with some typing lessons haha
 Caring87

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Posted: 11/12/2009 3:35:57 AM
In my studies there is this whole evolutionary theory of the differences between what men and women want in their partners (I think the authors were Buss and Schmidt, but that could be totally something different). Basically, men like younger women because of their reproductive potential (as us women have more limited reproductive abilities) which means the man's genes will survive and be passed on. Women like older men because they're more likely to be able to support offspring (financially I guess).

I guess this explains why clever guys are more likely to get married - they're more likely to have good jobs therefore producing a stable environment for marital offspring. For clever women being less likely to marry - I guess this is part of the fact that we have evolved past the stage of mere reproduction focus. Sperm donors etc mean that women don't actually need men to reproduce so if she is also clever and also in a good financial position, she can afford to be pickier. Also I think it may be a bit of a backlash from the whole women as housewives thing, we weren't always allowed to be career women so I guess we're making up for it now :). But I'd be wary of the stats.

Intelligence is now being recognized as multifaceted - you don't just have to be able to read and write, figure out puzzles and maths problems. There's also verbal, visuospatial and all sorts of other parts to intelligence. Gender differences here too, men (in general not all instances) better at systemizing (maths, visuospatial) and women better at empathizing (verbal, communicative) IQ tests. Where this 16% lies may be interesting, perhaps if theyre more systemizingly intelligent - they may be less empathizing and therefore just not want/hold on to relationships in general anyway. Of course IQ changes over time too and as someone commented perhaps more mature women find it harder to get married for lots of reasons, IQ not being a causal factor.

And on that very long note....I leave you with this quote
"There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics." - Mark Twain
 Caring87

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Posted: 11/12/2009 3:37:28 AM
When I say women don't need men to reproduce I meant it in a relationship context...you don't need to date your sperm donor!
 kent_lee

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Posted: 11/12/2009 3:42:36 AM
men can have both a career and a family ...

many women may have to choose between one or the other

now this is a generalisation in reply to a generalisation about brainly women being less likely to marry ...... brainy equal better job equals career equals not getting married to start a family

i'm sure there are a number of single mums out there who have a career and will no doubt puff out their chest in indignation at the thought that it's not possible to have both ... i know it is but i'm just saying that it's easier for men to do it than it is for a women ..
 Jo van

Joined: 5/23/2009
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Posted: 11/12/2009 4:17:05 AM

many women may have to choose between one or the other

now this is a generalisation in reply to a generalisation about brainly women being less likely to marry ...... brainy equal better job equals career equals not getting married to start a family


I agree.
And said similar things in other threads, Having a baby, or being pregnant can be at least an interruption of a woman's career, and at worst the end of a woman's career, depending on the child care requirements.
And there are also some good points raised by the previous poster.
Indeed it is not now necessary to either have a partner, or to be in a relationship to have a child, and the results only talk about marriage, and don't seem to include LTR's.

But I wondered if there was still an 'unwritten' sociological expectation on the part of males, that they will be the 'head of the household/relationship', and to this end they are subconsciously selecting their intellectual inferiors?
Similarly are women 'conditioned' to expect the man to be their 'superior'?
This could explain why clever women are finding it harder to find a mate, they may just be 'too clever' and are looking for somebody who is at least their intellectual equal, or possibly someone even cleverer than them. - A 'big ask'?

But I still find the results surprising.
But probably no more surprising than, despite legislation giving women 'equal pay' all the statistics show that on average they are still paid about 20% less than their male counterparts. Perhaps we still have some way to go for true 'equality'?
 Caring87

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Posted: 11/12/2009 4:36:45 AM
Perhaps there is merit in your 'conditioned' roles idea, for some women this may be part of it, but you always have to consider the flip side. Perhaps men also expect themselves to be or like to feel superior and thus find women of equal or higher intellect intimidating or somewhat a threat to their ego.
 {Pud78}

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Posted: 11/12/2009 5:12:21 AM
I like brainy women and strong women and would happily marry one, but I wouldn't want to date a very successful or dominating women. It never really occurred to me before reading this thread that I may actually be intimidated by a powerful successful woman and actually feel inferior where I never feel that way with peers, friends and colleagues who are higher up the ladder of success, I'm only middle management. On that basis and that if brainy women also can equal success and power it doesn't surprise me because subconsciously it was something that put me off.
 Hope~

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Posted: 11/12/2009 7:13:46 AM
Msg 67 I think we need to find people on a similar level as ourselves. I've met someone on a date and felt intimidated by his superior intelligence and that wasn't a good feeling for me - not that I need to be the smartest in a relationship but he was too smart for me !!
 gardentree

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Posted: 11/12/2009 8:34:47 AM
regarding msgs 67 & 68

I have met some wonderful people who I can honestly tell you were smarter than me by a long shot.
Some of them I felt not to great around. (intimidated perhaps, but somehow its not the right word.)
Some I thought were great people, I felt quite comfortable around them.

It depends on the person, some people need to feel superior, either in a blatant way or a not so blatant but still need to. These people I dislike.
 Shreksta

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Posted: 11/12/2009 8:46:53 AM
"Brainy women"..................Erm contradiction of terms springs to mind!!!

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 Ismene2

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Posted: 11/12/2009 10:12:13 AM

Erm contradiction of terms springs to mind
If I thought it was a truism, I'd say it was an oxymoron, but it is neither.
Brainy women are less likely to marry?
Posted: 11/12/2009 12:14:41 PM
WOW
seriously.. i need a strong minded girl because well... i can be a little head strong myself
those figures on page one... ??? you can't trust ruddy surveys! who did they ask and how did they ask it? plays a vital role

peace x
 Caz007007

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Posted: 11/12/2009 2:01:17 PM
This has been a very interesting read... chords have been struck


and the simple fact is intelligent women are better in bed.



I think it is true that a smart woman needs to meet a smart man who is not threatened by her intelligence. This can be a challenge.
 1LOVEJELLY

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Posted: 11/14/2009 9:08:43 AM
No thats not correct, I've been married twice
 NIN09

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Posted: 11/14/2009 1:19:01 PM
Why on earth do people what to be married in this day and age is beyond belief at times especially when so many relationships end in tears nowadays (hence children suffering the consequences).

I admire women who are in their 30+ never married and no kids, it shows they are sensible and do not to give in to conformist peer pressures.
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