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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/6/2009 4:52:07 PM | I watched President Obama address the Ft. Hood ugliness/situation/tragedy, and thought, 'well, we're going to hear from someone that he talked to those in attendance before he dealt with Ft. Hood', and sure enough--here it is.
There are some hearts that are simply too small.
The title of this thread should be:
'That Black/Racist/Muslim/Socialist/Communist/Illegal Immigrant Is At It Again'.
Grab a life. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/6/2009 5:00:47 PM | Obama seems to of "Hit The Ground Running",..
which hasnt exactly worked for him, yet,
I think he is working too hard, pushing to fast, and not being able to focus on the biggest problem he should of addressed from the very start....but we wont go into that.
One was his decision to shoot the pirates ,...
From the articles I read, from the view2 point of the Military,....Obama would NOT make that call,....and refused to give the go ahead,....
Finally when a Pirate acted as tho he was going to shoot the hostage,...the Military Sniper opened Fire,...the the Obama Team put their spin on it, and took the credit.
Obama was NOT in the boat,..he was in Wash DC, or roaming the country trying to earn brownie points where ever he goes.
The Sniper aboard the ship, is the one who"Made The Call - Made The Shot - And Deserves The Brownie Points"
and,...
the other was calling west a jack
even tho he was probably right about that, it still is NOT his place to make that call,...
remember,....They say,.."It Takes One To Know One".
Another case to me, of Obama dropping the ball (again) | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/6/2009 5:03:05 PM | | .....we can not help that Obama errs, you Obama supporters will one day realize that he is not infallible and the he is subject to scrutiny based on his position as President. Seriously though he knew about the shootings before he started speaking,,,,,it would have been different if he had been told while in the process of speaking.,,,,a definite error in judgment ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/6/2009 5:09:17 PM |
Seriously though he knew about the shootings before he started speaking,,,,,it would have been different if he had been told while in the process of speaking.,,,,a definite error in judgment ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Many people turned into news stations looking for Obama's speech because it was being announced that Obama was going to talk on the Ft Hood tragedy.
This is the primary reason that I say and go with the OP in saying Obama blew this one big time. Guys it was about 2 and 1/2 mins into the speech before he finally said anything about the Ft Hood Shootings. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/6/2009 5:16:16 PM | ^^^So, whats your point. He spoke about it. He just didn't get to it as fast as you wanted him to.
One would think that he spoke about the Yankees winning the WS before he addressed Fort Hood by the way some people are making this an issue. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/6/2009 5:20:09 PM | It appears that the president will go to Fort Hood in the near future, which I applaud.
He didn't meet the timetable some believe he should have when talking about Ft. Hood--it's over--move beyond it.
We are a hurting nation--losing a member of our military is a tragedy for all of us, and losing 13 by the hand of one of our own citizens is almost beyond belief.
Can't we focus on those families who are left wondering 'why', instead of using our energy to snipe about when the president should have spoken about what happened?
He addressed the shootings--focus on the families.
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/11/06/obama-quietly-visits-wounded-troops/
...As early as next week, Mr. Obama is planning to attend a memorial service for the victims of the Fort Hood tragedy, which Mr. Gibbs said “would be scheduled for the convenience of the families that suffered the tragic losses.” | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/6/2009 5:42:47 PM |
I think we're all forgetting what the real issue is that he's black....sort of. And a muslim...a racist, a socialist, and I'm pretty sure he's from the planet Fruntog.
You know...I think far fewer people than Obama's staunch supporters truly believe, even consider these factors when they're examining the actions instead. Until and unless someone brings it up claiming these are the real reasons people don't like him...as an excuse for the real reasons - they don't agree with his policies. Plain and simple. When you are elected to lead a number of people where the majority don't agree with your policies, dissent is always going to happen. Most of the 20-something supporters during the election could care less that he's President now because they haven't seen the instant gratification they thought they were going to get.
To continually allege it's merely because of his skin color, religion, etc., is to imply folks are just that stupid that these are all they base their own opinions upon. Simplistic. Far too simplistic...and missing the point altogether. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/6/2009 5:47:25 PM | Lets be right about this, the President wasn't reading to a bunch of first graders, He was taking care of the Nations business...and for all you who claim to hate Obama, what was he going to tell you that you hadn't heard 10 times already...Were you waitng for him to make you feel all better?
get real. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/6/2009 10:30:34 PM | Yeah... I remember Bush II requesting and receiving authorization to enter Afghanistan to feret out Bin Laden and Al Qaeda following 9/11. Next thing we knew he had taken his eye off the ball and we were invading Iraq which resulted in confusion for alotta Americans who still make ignorant-azz comments connecting Iraq to 9/11
Good, so I presume you ALSO remember the 90%+ popularity vote that his decision got from the American public.
My point is, time and time again he shows just how poorly suited he is for this job. His popularity is the 3rd fastest dropping in a LONG time of American Presidents (much slower than the tyrant before him even), and he has really jacked up the economy with all of his corporate bail-outs, and the end is not in sight.
Defend him all you want. I don't hate him because he is black,muslim,or whatever else you claim he is/isnt. I dislike the man because he doesn't deserve any of the accolades or positions he has recieved through any merit of his past or present actions and he is making a huge mess of my country. Not that it was great before, but he has really done some damage.
I am not upset about his poor word-choices, selfish publicity stunts, or his lack of empathy. I am concerned about the REASON for these things. It's a disturbing trend pointing towards incompetance, and his decisions while in office back this up. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 12:59:08 AM |
Good, so I presume you ALSO remember the 90%+ popularity vote that his decision got from the American public.
My point is, time and time again he shows just how poorly suited he is for this job. His popularity is the 3rd fastest dropping in a LONG time of American Presidents (much slower than the tyrant before him even), and he has really jacked up the economy with all of his corporate bail-outs, and the end is not in sight.
so I presume you ALSO remember the pack of lies that was told to the American public to sell that decision? remember? 90%+ don't mean gotch when its based on some of the most serious lies ever laid before congress.
"hey, theres nukes there."
"or er...ummm....actually we just said that because we didn't like the guy."
now lets move on to that "3rd fastest dropping in a LONG line of American Presidents". want to back that up with some fact? Faster than Truman? no. Faster than Hoover? not even in the same ball park. history. get into it. its more than concept.
and as for "really jacking up the economy with his bailouts". the bailouts came because eight years of running two of the most expensive wars in history while cutting taxes leads to economic catastrophe. if Obama hadn't "jacked up the economy" (whatever the hell that means) you'd be looking at a stock market below 6k and a nation in complete economic meltdown.
however to your credit as you point out, the end is hardly in sight. next time we elect a couple of texas bozos to the Whitehouse, lets remember we'll be paying for decades at least. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 2:30:31 AM | Bunch of ignorance in this thread. Blaming Bush is really getting old. Yes, he sucked as a president, we all know that. We are almost one year into Obama's term, and he hasn't changed a thing. He has the same policies as Dubya.
Fox news leans right, we all know that. MSNBC leans left, we all know that. Sean Hannity is the same as Rachel Maddox. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 3:15:37 AM | JW,
Bush got his "populrity vote" beacause it was considered unpatriotic to not fight a Muslim country at the time. Times have changed.
Obama came into a corporate bailout stategy implemented by the previous administration aka TARP. You should check out Greenspan's admittance to his role in the economic fallout. The Bush admin. just let him mess things up with the unregulated derivatives market. Greenspan recognized he was wrong, got the hell out, but made a fortune before he left. Traded his dollars for euros before he left I should add. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 4:39:28 AM |
Good, so I presume you ALSO remember the 90%+ popularity vote that his decision got from the American public.
This proves what i have been saying for years. Most americans are friggin idiots. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 6:17:44 AM | Like I said before, it is a disturbing trend that people seem to just brush under the rug. In order for something to be "brushed under the rug," there has to be something to brush.
Those who disagree with you aren't brushing, they're disagreeing. Big difference.
Re: West being called a "jackass"
even tho he was probably right about that, it still is NOT his place to make that call,...
"That call?" It's not his place to have an opinion? Wrong. You don't have to agree with someone else's opinion... that doesn't mean it isn't his place to have one in the first place... and it's his choice whether or not to express it. Otherwise, perhaps we should decide that it's NOT your place to make the "call" on here of what he should and should not do.
As noted earlier, it's awfully nice to see that people feel they have to stretch to find something to complain about... a sure sign that things are going well. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 7:01:10 AM | Petty petty petty,was he to break down and cry,come on,follow the news real close and tell me how many times in a day he could face the nation and report horrible news with everything that happens in the world not to mention the constant pressure petty people keep on him.Its as if he is not "just so perfect,your going too.............oh forget it,you will pick on him if he is perfect ! Kanye was a Jackass and that was an off the record statement.Jackass isn't a strong word referring to someone that was just a total a s s ho le.He was so bad he canceled his concerts because of it and did a retreat.I have always hated that spoiled little boy with that arrogant attitude,your 23,you probably like him and ignore that he is an a s s ho le !
Bush didn't count wars,that would have made the budget look big.I understand this,when someone drives a car for 8 years plus and hardly does anything towards fixing it but you've driven it to where it almost not fixable,then park it and get up and leave,then that means the next owner is going to have to pay a fortune to just get it running again.
In this on going argument ,most every petty person that opposes ,refuses to bring up the cause of the need for so much repair, just complain the repairman is too slow and to expensive,And he is not an eloquent speaker 110% of the time.WTF,come on man,ain't my freakin car fixed yet,yo yo yo dude,hurry up,my girls waiting,come on you've had 11 months the fix every problem in the world,damn,repairmen !.Petty,petty,petty ! | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 7:01:41 AM |
As noted earlier, it's awfully nice to see that people feel they have to stretch to find something to complain about... a sure sign that things are going well.
Yeah, things are great--a 10.2 percent unemployment; a huge increase in the size of the blackhole we call the Federal Government; a quagmire in Afghanistan and a Waffler for a president who can't seem to make a decision to either get in the fight or pull completely out; bailouts, ownership of zombie companies, cronyism, radicals in the WH, healthcare about to be destroyed in this country, 12 trillion dollars in debt, over a 100 trillion in unfunded liabilities, yes, things are going well. Only a liberal can make a statement as stupid as that.
Oh, I forgot when Obummer does something good he takes ownership; when something bad happens he passes the buck. What a stand up guy, what a great leader......excuse me while I find a bucket to puke in. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 7:33:29 AM |
we tried the "experienced" team for the last eight years...
Old, old, old. It’s like someone pulling the string on a babydoll. “Hi, my name is Talky Tina, and it’s all Bush’s fault”. Geesh... Polly want a cracker?
Obama was doomed before he even began.
You mean the campaign of Hope and Change was all a lie? Tell me it’s not so!
Fox is making an issue out of something that is not a big deal.
How did Fox News even get into this topic? The OP’s link is to an NBC Chicago opinion piece.
I just felt like I just came in from the twilight zone...
Welcome to the club. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 7:41:41 AM |
JW,
Bush got his "populrity vote" beacause it was considered unpatriotic to not fight a Muslim country at the time. Times have changed.
Yeah, so now it's all Bush's fault, I mean, the people just did what was popular at the time and it blew up in their face, so it must be Bush's fault.
Yeah. Once again 51% of the people "Did what was popular", and once again, things are tanking. Epic fail. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 8:13:20 AM |
Most of this censure comes from the south and south eastern states, in the north west and the north, he seems to be quite popular.
Chicago is not in the south. And in politics, not all is as it seems. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 8:17:16 AM | first the republicans foisted Bush and Cheney on us. now less than a year out of office the mantra is "hey don't mention those guys. whatever happened then has no bearing on the disastrous state of affairs we find ourselves in now."
no it does have a ton of bearing on the state we find ourselves in.
for the "party of personal responsibility" its odd that the message seems to be "if you screw it up, just blame the next guy".
no, you mucked it up. and you mucked it up BIG. gonna be decades, if ever, before the country gets over the mess you created. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 8:25:18 AM | Msg 42
Old, old, old. It’s like someone pulling the string on a babydoll. “Hi, my name is Talky Tina, and it’s all Bush’s fault”. Geesh... Polly want a cracker?
If all else fails there are 3 arguments that Talky Tina' says in defense of what Obama did or does to those who seem to oppose Obama.
I think I have seen all three used in various forums to defend Obama's news speech on Fort Hood.
The three are:
1. You are a racist.
2. Its Bush's fault.
3. Bush did it, so what's the big deal.
Msg 2 said
Most of this censure comes from the south and south eastern states, in the north west and the north, he seems to be quite popular.
Last time I heard NJ is not considered a southern state and it seems that Obama's campaigning did not help in that state.
Some just need to face it, Obama is not perfect. Obama does blow it at times and this time he definitely dropped the ball with his Fort Hood special speech.
If Obama had been informed during the speech that might have been different. If all of Obama's people had not been announcing it as such to the media so they would interrupt their broadcasts to hear Obama say something about Fort Hood, then just maybe it would be different. But that is not the case this time Obama dropped the ball on Fort Hood. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 8:29:04 AM |
Yeah. Once again 51% of the people "Did what was popular", and once again, things are tanking. Epic fail. Oh come on... are you fawking serious? Do you honestly believe that the economic toilet that we're currently in could have been resolved by anyone in office in this short amount of time?
I can't believe that he's expected to work miracles in this amount of time... everyone is so quick to point the finger at the current administration yet no one is looking at the situation as a whole. You're asking the impossible... and Obama, like anyone else, is just a man.
Maybe God could do better... but he didn't run for the position...
As for those that are commenting on where New Jersey is... might I point out the qualifiers of most and seems... nothing is absolute... and I believe my verbiage displays that concept. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 8:55:52 AM | The debate to whom we are having the argument with is ridiculous,when we are debating with people that lack sound understanding on whats broke and whats a realistic time frame and then they continue to show there ignorance since the first month to 11 months later to now ,"the why isn't it fixed" and the ridiculous "why are some still losing their houses and jobs",just have no clue as the the enormity of the damage and what it takes in money and time to fix,the ignorance is even on the most basic levels ,where because Bush,is no longer president ,you can no longer blame him for all or most or any that Obama is having to fix,as if election shifted the blame onto Obama that he over the last 8 years did this.
The reasoning,the lack of logic from a lot here, on the opposition, is so ignorant,so unreasonable,and without any acknowledgements of whats been done already is hard to imagine.Any time you re explain this to them its over their head and they start shouting liberal,liberal.For those of you that don't have a clue, nothing significant ,will be fixed in 11 months,and as it was stated from day one from Obamas mouth you WILL still see foreclosures and job loss for another year,even while lots of others are getting employment,buying homes,and seeing there lives improve.The difference is that everyone is not losing anymore ! Only a unreasonable person would only look at the losses then ignore all the gains in there entirety.
What will come back on this post ,hmmm ,I imagine the line will be, "sounds like the logic of a liberal", in fact if you say sounds like a liberal,I believe it will be a good compliment and I'll thank you !Seems the liberal is one of the few that have their heads screwed on straight ! | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 10:21:13 AM |
Oh come on... are you fawking serious? Do you honestly believe that the economic toilet that we're currently in could have been resolved by anyone in office in this short amount of time?
of course they don't but makes them feel better about having elected the idiots that got us into this mess. | |
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| Obama drops the ball...again.
Posted: 11/7/2009 10:46:54 AM |
Obama is spending more money on the war than Bush did from what the numbers are telling us. More troops=more $$$.
He's not spending more... these are the troops that didn't get killed in Cheney's War for Money in Iraq. Take a second from your great concern about Obama's handling of Kanye West to think about the administration that was glad to send American youth to die for the good of their and their freinds' bank accounts. Then you can come back to this issue of great importance. | |
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