| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 5:00:08 AM | | I thought twin flame is when you both fart at the same time. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 5:08:47 AM | okay, just who is it, exactly, that assigns these twinflames? what! i don't need no stinkin' twinflame. and where is the Porsche Panamera i asked for last week?
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 5:48:29 AM |
and where is the Porsche Panamera i asked for last week?
It's at the dealers' lot.Pick it up anytime. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 8:47:16 AM |
Ive never came across this person who is meant to be ,the one.'could the one already be there without knowing it? you just can't see it yet' ive heard this ter m many a times before , what you guys think? do you believe there is a twinFlame in seperate of Soulmate? That theory hinges on destiny. The truth about unique compatibilities is more about the law of averages and diminishing scale. The odds diminish with every factor you add to the equation, and then are compounded when you factor in that they must be mutual.
Compatibility across many levels is wildly elusive.
Finding your soulmate is simply a romantic notion done in retrospect, that attempts to rationalize when two people become spiritually connected with each other in a way that both are convinced is a singularity.
I think it's a dangerous psychological rabbit hole to fall into, particularly when you are younger. The only constant in life, is change. The concept of someone who is perfect for you in the present, does not take into account who you, or they, will become later on in life. We all evolve. People are anything but static. People are known to grow apart. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 10:00:06 AM | I thought TwinFlames were the driving force behind California Prop 8.
How can someone be a “twin” yet the exact opposite? | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 10:02:49 AM | When a soul is created, there are actually two souls at once, male and female which are then separated. This "other" is your "Twin Flame" and there is only one of them unlike a "soul mate" where you can have many. This creates a longing in each of us to find our "other half" on a soul level. I know it seems a little "woo woo", but when I saw the video below, it touched me on a very deep level and it felt very true. Watch this video...it's beautiful!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sn6qkqvTF_o | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 10:11:02 AM | | I suppose if you believe in twin flames or soulmates, you probably believe in horoscopes, witchcraft, Greek/Roman mythology and/or voodoo. These sorts of ideas represent merely an interesting hobby; not anything that ought to control and guide you through life. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 10:12:26 AM |
How can someone be a “twin” yet the exact opposite?
They're not. Twin Soul/Twin Flame is the other side of the soul. Souls were created without sexual assignments.They were both male and female at creation. One soul without sexual identity. It was only when these souls came to earth and took human form that the sexual identities came about. If you're male, then your twin soul(the other half of your soul)would be female, and, visa versa. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 10:53:27 AM |
They're not. Twin Soul/Twin Flame is the other side of the soul. Souls were created without sexual assignments.They were both male and female at creation. One soul without sexual identity. It was only when these souls came to earth and took human form that the sexual identities came about. If you're male, then your twin soul(the other half of your soul)would be female, and, visa versa. I always thought humans originally consisted of two heads, two sets of arms, two sets of legs, etc. (hmmm---think of the possibilities! ); sort of a Chang & Eng kind of thing, but with a Donny & Marie twist. Sadly, almighty Zeus thought as individual duos they were too powerful, (remember, they were a little bit country AND a little bit rock and roll). So, being the jealous god that he was, he took the advice of Yoko and split the humans in half; and that’s why we’re always searching for our “other half”, soul mate, twin flame, or George to our Wheezy.  | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 10:57:15 AM | How could someone be assigned to you at birth? I guess the soul-mate BS ran out of steam so they had to make up another fantasy. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 11:02:17 AM |
I guess the soul-mate BS ran out of steam so they had to make up another fantasy.
Yeah twin flame and the opposite, other than gender opposite *DUH* ........not what I'd be wanting.
I just hope I can come up with a cliche that I can generate an income stream from.......dang.....parallel person??  | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 2:16:18 PM | Wazhiz:
No, no. It's been going on for all four decades of my metaphysical studies...lately though, it has resurrected as a money-making tool, like everything else! And it is not just Ms Brown | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 4:56:11 PM | The premise of soul mates is based on the idea of reincarnation in the Hindu religion. After having established karma with someone over and over through a series of incarnations we develop a recognition of them, a vibe, a chemistry if you will. Upon meeting them our guard is instantly down. This is no stranger.
Unfortunately, the concept of soul mate does not have the romantic connotation that civilians think it does. Because a soul mate can get in behind the fences so quickly, often a soul mate is in one's life just to deliver a very difficult lesson, one that couldn't be delivered were it to have to take time to develop the relationship. A soul mate is often someone who is too young, too old, already attached or leaves too soon. The number of lifetimes we've achieved and the quality of our attachments and love during those lifetimes will be the determining factor for how many soul mates one has. How ambitious one was when choosing the karma to work out in this lifetime will determine how many of those soul mates deliver those difficult lessons.
We are as likely to find soul mates in our parents, siblings, coworkers and children as we are in our sex partners, and the experience of them is not always pleasant, because you know, sometimes love sucks.
The concept of twin flames comes down to us through Madame Blavatsky and the Count St. Germain. The idea behind twin flames is that when entering duality the spirit splits to form the two halves of the Tao. We spend our duration here, throughout all our lifetimes seeking that twin flame. This is more along the lines of what people mean when they speak of soul mates for it's definitely the stuff of Hollywood melodramas.
My latest musings have taken me to the idea that it's our ancestry that creates the feelings of déjà vu that might indicate reincarnation. We don't actually reincarnate but we carry the memories of our ancestors in our DNA and that cellular memory makes types of people, places, things and situations seem familiar.
I have belief systems surrounding the idea of a "One" because I've committed to a long term relationship with my owner.
Those belief systems, like most belief systems, are bullshit.
But this is how mine goes: when one or the other dares to say, "Sh!t honey, this isn't looking good. I must have deluded myself. You aren't the one”, the other says, "Well, what does the one of right now look like?" The doubter then lists off qualities, values, goals, actions and even the appearance and decorations of the one desired right now. The rejected one gets to work and becomes the other's current desired object by changing qualities, values, goals, actions, appearance and decoration.
This way we get to keep each other as best friends. We also get to be the keeper of the other's history. In those histories are failures and also the fantasies and dreams that were never realized. By staying together we have that spare data bank walking alongside each of us to help us recognize "here's that opportunity you've been waiting for" or "whoops, last time you did that, this happened". We become invaluable resources to each other. By personifying whatever the other one needs or wants to continue to adventure, change, grow and learn we never become obsolete to one another. So it's the best of both worlds. We have our historians and our teachers rolled up into one person. We simply have to each be willing to continue to change into the other's one du jour. We don't hold rigidly to separate identities but are instead willing to morph into new characters so the other's drama can continue to unfold.
Sometimes we will have to take turns, I'm sure. Other times perhaps we will be so much in synch that either of our desired ones du jour will match up quite nicely with what the other was wanting to epitomize anyway. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 5:03:33 PM | daynadaze wrote: How could someone be assigned to you at birth?  I guess the soul-mate BS ran out of steam so they had to make up another fantasy. Same BS new packaging.
wazhiz wrote:Sylvia Brown the looney toon lying psychic believes the stuff about twin souls/ soul mates. She discusses it in her books & it's part of the belief system the Agnostics have.
Agnostics? Would like to see anything that suggests agnostics or atheists believe in anything that isn't science based. ~Beth~ | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 5:03:39 PM | I dont believe in either term
The "soulmate" for you at 25.. well that just doesnt exist cause neither of you are adult enough to KNOW anything other than 18 years of childhood and 4 years of legal drinking..
The soulmate at 30, provided you have spent the last 12 years growing up and maturing.. is a totally different person also at 30 then he was at 18.. so he wasnt a SOULMATE until that moment. meaning nothing to do with "soul"
Now.. IF you get to 40 and still havent met "the one" and are alone and looking.. Your life needs at 40 will be totally different than they were at 25. Most times you will be done having your kids.. IF you did.. so 1st quality of a soulmate is agreement on birthing children and the proper time to. Obviously this is off the table since you are now DONE. So again.. soulmate at 40 WONT be that very same person at 30.. only 10 years later.
soulmates are a bunch of crap.
This twinflame thing is like a term on a hallmark card. Harlequinism and gives women something to get all dreamy-eyed over.. Oh.. Watch for it on OPRAH.. The show about NOTHING.. make for women | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 5:06:12 PM | Sounds to me like yet ANOTHER yuppie hybrid dreamed up by someone lucky enough to have a byline in Cosmo or Ms. magazines.
what a bunch of shit! | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 9:10:00 PM | | This kind of thing falls into the same category for me, as any belief that can't be confirmed or denied. I don't involve myself with it. I figure, if there's a force in the universe that has the power to do things like this, my messing about with it can only make things go wrong. Thus I lead my life as best I can, with honesty, and with earnestness. If there's magic out there looking for me, my being thoroughly myself will make me a beacon to guide it to me. If there's no magic, I'll have led my life as well as possible, and will have no regrets. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 10:47:10 PM | | I hear people say that is what they hope to find. I don't know myself. I would hope there might be such, but not holding my breath waiting waiting for one to magically show up. I think were meant to live our lives and learn from everyone along our journey. If she shows up she better let me know cause I sure didnt get an ID identifying her as my mate. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 11:11:11 PM | TwinFlame? Another label is born. It belongs with that soulmate stuff...which is questionable. There is so much that is still unknown about the soul/spirit/energy that is "life" to us. Once "life" is gone from our bodies, where does that energy go? I don't feel that energy dies, does it disperse? Go somewhere? The answer is no one knows. If we knew about what happens after death, then the whole science versus religion debate would not exist. You can't scientifically test for what happens after death (other than the physical form of decomposing, of course). It really is in the end, a matter of "faith." You may believe that something happens, and you may believe that nothing happens. But as of now, no one (scientists or religious people who are still alive) can know for sure. I believe in instant mutual attraction. For some reason your body and mind goes into alert mode that tells you that you really dig this person. You can picture yourself kissing him and you can picture yourself with him for more than just sex. If that attraction is just as strong on his end, then you have something going. But...this does not mean that he is good husband material, too. Whatever is happening in your life at this time affects who you attract. He could be a woman abuser...or a anything else that is unsavoury. You have to get to know him first. Usually, if both are healthy minded with really no issues, it works out well. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/7/2009 11:54:38 PM |
The term TwinFlame means the one you have been searching for all your life someone who has been assigned to you from birth there the opposite of you. I'll send you a site that explains better what it is OP.
But for those of you that are interested... this is the concept.
"Your actual Twin flame is the other half of your soul. Most of the time your Twin flame is not incarnate at the same time as you are, but stays in the Ethers as a guide and a kind of caretaker. Sometimes however, both you and your Twin flame do incarnate at the same time. This is rare.
When it does, however, usually that person is NOT your ideal mate, for good reason... they are difficult to live with. Your literal "other half" embodies everything you are and usually reflects EVERYTHING you do not like about yourself.
Most people mistake Twin Flame for their Soulmate. Yes, we all have a Twin Flame. Soulmates, you get together and everything is perfect. With a Twin Flame there is chaos: one can be attached, age difference, different locations, or the person has some serious issues and is afraid to open up to the energy because the bond is too intense"
You've gotta understand this person is not your other "half" literally This person... their soul... is YOU. Always was... and always will be.
You havent been split... you've been divided.
An easier way to explain it.... take a flame... and divide it... ...they arent opposites are they? ...they are exactly the same... they've just been seperated
If one is extinguished... the energy is just transformed and waiting... And it doesnt matter where you take either flame... they're still One. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/8/2009 12:07:56 AM | I'm one of those people who doesn't believe in the whole "soulmate" theory. You either find someone you're compatible with, or you don't.
As for the twin flame thing? Well, as the last poster described it, I can't buy that one either. I believe there might be someone else out there that might resemble you, but that's about it for me. | |
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| TwinFlame Vs Soulmates Posted: 11/8/2009 5:00:17 PM | I never new that bullshiot could be explained to be chocolate icecream
sameoppositedividedincarnate.. wait a second.. What is Nate doing in my car? If Nate gets OUT of my car.. is he now
OUT car Nate? And if he gets OUT of my car and gets in his own car.. Is he now InNatesCarNate?
I'm getting very confused. I need to light two gaslamps so I can read more.. Since these lamps are so far away and difficult to light.. I might need a TwinFlame to get them lit. If a company run by two Bob's sold me that flame.. Would it be a Bobseytwinflame?
I dont want my flame to be afraid to open up to the energy.. then I wont get a flame.. just a pfffffft and some smoke.
Then I wont have ONE light.. much less TWO being lit. Maybe I can go GET lit with something from the fridge.. Hope THAT non-twin-LIGHT comes on | |
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