| | Dating with Schizo affective disorderPage 2 of 3 (1, 2, 3) | | Wow...sorry about the problem but as far as telling someone, it's none of their business until you feel like there might be something there for you. Meaning....if you are just feeling someone out then hold off. If you feel you want to have something with someone then tell them of course but until you are of the mind to include them into your life as someone more then just an acquaintance then they do not need to know. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 1:40:11 AM | just read your previous posts and in one you say
mmm, I don't think herpes is gross. It is a medical/ sexual condition. I think, if someone has a medical condition of any kind...They should inform others and give them the opportunity to make a decision, if they want to accept your condition or not...
doesnt this statement you made answer your own question? | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 2:25:35 AM | I dont know, sitting here trying to think about it. Hmmm thought I knew everything ... guess I dont. But can speculate a lil bit .... seems like a hard spot to be in. Would guess within a reasonable amount of time would work. Cuz its your personal business and someone Uve just met, ... isnt necessarily entitled to know that. Could wait until, you at least know U have a real interest in pursuing something with them anyway.
Guys who are mainly just interested in possible sex, .... could care less about your having a mental disorder though. But after U figure out they could be someone your interested in, at that point. Wouldnt wait too long to bring it up, cuz it might feel like you were being dishonest. Then I guess it would just depend on how U broached the subject from there.
The ole not what U say, .... but how U say it thing. ( example to follow )
Ummmm I want to tell U something personal hon. ..... I have super cooties from outer space and your probally going to die. ........ Nah just kidding, I have ( insert mental issues here ) though. Didnt want to tell you until I knew U a little better and I really like U. Its not contagious and not even an issue, with medication. ..... Ummm pass the salt. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 2:59:52 AM |
Never mind dating worries, does your employer know you have this issue?
People with schizoaffective disorder are likely to have additional conditions, including anxiety disorders and substance abuse. Social problems, such as long-term unemployment, poverty and homelessness, are common. Furthermore, the average life expectancy of people with the disorder is shorter than those without the disorder, due to increased physical health problems and a higher suicide rate.
I think her employer DOES need to know to a certain extent. If she has been hospitalized and does not take her medication she could start to hallucinate in many situations.
Hear the wrong instructions, panic.. Anything.
I don't see where you cant have a fulfilling life if treated properly and surrounding yourself with the right people and live a healthy life style. Avoiding your known triggers, if there are any. Most disorders do have them.
Stress especially. So don't know what avenue you should be taking so far as employment. But if you are responsible in anyway for the safety of others, maybe choose another profession.
I would find out everything there is to know about the condition, read every book available and try to help myself and accept help as needed to live with it/manage it.
Unless you are thinking about becoming involved... more than a coffee date or occasional movie. Your need to disclose it...need to know basis.
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 4:50:16 AM | | I would say, only disclose when things get serious. In the meantime, stay up on your meds and take care of yourself above all! If you disclose this and the guy runs, thats his choice. Let him get to know "you" first, then tell him about your disorder. Goodluck sweetie! | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 8:23:04 AM |
Dating is very hard for everyone, but it is very hard when you have to keep secrets about yourself. I have Schizo affective disorder, otherwise known as Formal Thought Disorder. It is a serious mental illness which has some schizophrenic features and depression or bipolar. I have been hospitalized and baker acted( forcibly hospitalized) a few times for mental illness. I hear voices, when I don't take my medications...That is pretty scary for me and my family. During my last relapse, I heard voices coming through the television, telephone, air conditioning ducts and my home became a prison to me. People don't normally think schizo affective or mental illness, when they visualize me. It is something I deal with everyday. My issue is this. Should I disclose this information to man before I date him. I am scared of people judging me in a negative light. I am totally fine, when I take my medications...but there is always that fear of another psychotic episode. Should I disclose this information to interested parties or should I wait to get to know someone.
Hello and I want to wish you the best dealing with your disorder going forward.
But really and truly, that doesn't sound like something you could hide if you tried...like someone with Tourette's Syndrome.
You're going to likely have to tell potential suitors early on. It's going to be complicated and it is going to 'close some doors' on you, the same way with someone with an STD or an other clear disability, unfortunately enough, but it's something you have to go through if you want to get to where you want to go.
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 9:27:43 AM |
Good luck with that. Wow. Life just isn't fair. Life is not fair but no one can take the problems and sicknesses of six billion people on our planet . There are diseases that are contagious and can kill you . Besides that you date someone because you like her and NOT because you feel sorry for her . In the English language dating is a not a charity......... . | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 10:24:38 AM | | They need to know the minute you become partners or are exclusive. Mental illness is not something you can just spring on people, ask your Dr or therapist. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 10:31:24 AM |
People with STDs, HIV, AIDS......etc should tell people about their diseases . Hiding the truth makes people feel deceived and manipulated .
I think I understand where it is you're trying to go with that point, but equating mental disorders with diseases that are commonly transmitted through sex; lessen that to anything is just contagious in any aspect is just ubsurd.
With the two threads going on right now between schizy and BPD, it seems the mass is likening any of us as lepers.
Understanding is the keyword. Being afflicted doesn't turn you into a degenerate or the next Eddie Gein. It requries one to discipline theirself and to take responsibility. I've seen people with no such condition do far worse than most of those, self included, with such a condition. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 10:44:22 AM | | SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE LUCKY TO FIND YOU. You seem to be on top of your issues and are willing to work on them. That is huge in my book. I've dated women with issues kinda similar and they were great people EXCEPT that they ignored their problem hoping it would go away on its own. I think that you should not tell someone the first time out, but maybe the next or thereafter. If they want to keep seeing you (and you them) you should disclose the facts. Judging by your profile, you have a lot going on that that others don't. Stay sweet and honest, good luck. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 11:05:41 AM |
I think I understand where it is you're trying to go with that point, but equating mental disorders with diseases that are commonly transmitted through sex; lessen that to anything is just contagious in any aspect is just absurd.
Understanding is the keyword.
Being afflicted doesn't turn you into a degenerate or the next Eddie Gein. It requries one to discipline theirself and to take responsibility. I've seen people with no such condition do far worse than most of those, self included, with such a condition.
Wise words from one so young. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 1:31:43 PM |
I do not want to worry about someone waking me up in the night with a knife at my throat for something they heard in their head. Unfortunately, that is a common thing with Schizophrenic Disorder. "
When I was at university, we had to check our bags at its bookstore entrance. A guy who was a major in bag checking, killed his mother with a knife in my third year there. The school newspaper made a mention that he had been a schizophrenic.
Apparently it is NOT a common thing for schizophrenics to be violent. You have a greater chance to kill someone if you have a common cold than if you have schizophrenia. Even PMS (for women) or doing a bad job at buttoning up your shirt or tying your shoelaces wrong (for guys) are a higher indication to kill someone that day than being a schizophrenic.
I have no clue what schizoaffective disorder means. Means you are an affectionately schizophrening
Schizophrenia is a brain disorder that distorts the way a person thinks, acts, expresses emotions, perceives reality, and relates to others. Depression is an illness that is marked by feelings of sadness, worthlessness, or hopelessness, as well as problems concentrating and remembering details. Bipolar disorder is characterized by cycling mood changes, including severe highs (mania) and lows (depression).
Schizoaffective Disorder A person with schizoaffective disorder has severe changes in mood and some of the psychotic symptoms of schizophrenia, such as hallucinations, delusions, and disorganized thinking. Psychotic symptoms reflect the person's inability to tell what is real from what is imagined. Symptoms of schizoaffective disorder may vary greatly from one person to the next and may be mild or severe.
Well, I don't have Schizophrenia... I have some features of Schizophrenia.... Auditory hallucinations and formal thought disorder.......
The difference is - Schizophrenic People hear voices of people they don't know... Angry, hunting voices and the like.. Voices don't tell me to hurt myself or hurt other either. Normally, when I have a incident..I hear the voices of people I know...That is still pretty freaky... I know... I don't have delusions of grandeur... I don't think I am god or anything else...like schizophrenics.... I am not violent either.....
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 2:32:46 PM | Op may be you are a psychic? They hear voices that come to them in the form of intuition. It is like a load thought in your head. Many people experience similar things in unusual sitiations. Like inner protective voice. I personally, wouldn't be ineterested dating and developing relationship with a shizo lady. I think many advise to you to be upfront but 90% normal guys will run and fast. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 1/24/2010 2:49:04 PM | Should you disclose this information about yourself? If your serious about the guy, absolutely. Give someone the "option" of making the choice of a commitment with you. Because mental illnesses such as yours is a lifetime thing and they get worse the older you get.
I say that because a couple of my intermediate family members has the condition and their lovers always complained they never knew years down the line after a episode. So I personally think it needs to be known. That way there are no suprises. Good Luck with everything. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 9/17/2011 9:28:20 PM | i am schizoaffective amongst other things and i put it as the very first thing on my profile. i am on social security right now because of it so it would be difficult to hide. sadly most women do not respond to me when i say hello if they look at my profile first which gets me down, but not as down as i feel telling someone ive already gotten to know and having them reject me. it just hurt too much. i do not enjoy being compared to schizophrenics as that is a completely different disorder. and that woman who was afraid of being attacked with a knife needs to get real, plus she was talking out her ass about the wrong mental illness... some people. anyways people with SAD are all different, some symptoms are more predominant than others. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 9/18/2011 8:42:59 AM | ~OP~ So many people have disorders such as yours (with or without the combinations such as yours) and never tell anyone, only to have it learned after a relationship has been formed and then you have a whole huge pile of things to sort out, including anger from the other side. Personally? I'd don't tell anyone ALL about myself early on, I see no reason why you should either (I have panic disorder which is well under control and no one's business until I deem it their business.) However, there comes a point in a dating relationship where it's obvious it's heading to a more intimate/serious level and I believe it's then when we disclose certain aspects of "who" we are as whole people. There's absolutely NO reason to post this in a profile on a free dating site, that's WAY too much information and truly no total stranger needs to have that much information about anyone else. But much like your family/friends ~ when you feel there is a formation of a "relationship" (even close friendship) of course you need to inform/educate someone of your specific situation (as it's not mirror to anyone else's.) Clearly you have a firm grasp on how this affects/effects you and that's what someone else needs to know. If they choose to not know you further, that's OK ~ and likely best for you. It won't always be that way though. There are people who see the person for who they are, not for what mishap happened in the gene-pool. Stay on your meds!!! Best of luck to you.  | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 9/18/2011 8:50:10 AM | | I see this disorder often in my line of work, & the problems always seem to arise when they feel "normal", then stop taking their meds. When you had your psychotic breaks in the past, was it b/c you stopped taking your meds? You don't have to disclose this or anything else that's very personal while you are casually dating. When you get to the point where you are going to be exclusive, that's a different story, then it's time to have a talk about your condition. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 9/18/2011 9:03:51 AM | | You are not obligated to disclose any personal information about yourself if it is only casual dating. However, if you or the other party wants to take it to a more serious level, then you should be upfront about your condition. Don't have sex with anyone, until and unless you know that they accept a committed relationship, knowing your medical condition. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 9/18/2011 9:11:30 AM | Mental sickness is very serious and one should people know it if they are dating . We are free in our choices . I do not want someone who will add misery to my problems . Dating someone with schizo/bipolar is like gambling because one day they are okay and one day they are nuts . Schizo brings panic attacks, bipolar is a mind swing . Unless controlled by meds it is a call for trouble .
Her condition can be controlled as long as she remains on her meds, continues to see her pyschiatrist & immediately reports any problems/concerns to him/her. She may also be seeing a therapist. She has overcome a lot of her disorder by going to school, getting a degree & maintaining employment. She is beautiful, her line of work requires her to be highly intelligent. She has family supporting her & hopefully making sure she is taking her meds. She's not going to be normal 1 minute then snap the next. She has had problems in the past, probably from not taking her meds but it appears she has learned from this. You are entitled to your choice, however as long as she maintains her meds, & support system, her chances of another psychotic break are relatively low. And to the poster who asked if your employer knows about your seisure disorder, it's none of their business & you should remove it from your profile. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 9/18/2011 9:45:14 AM |
Everyone with mental health issues isn't a danger to society.... Exactly Op :)
As many others have said, you aren't obligated to tell any Tom, D1ck or you know who this info.. save that for someone you want to get closer to.
Divinelovepath:
All those meds do is cut you off from your psychic senses but they are still there. The meds help people with this disorder to no longer have psychotic breaks, to lessen hallucinations/delusions and to help control their cycling moods.. I certainly hope you aren't suggesting she go off of them??
On an ignorant level professionals call the effects of what spirits do a disorder. Telling someone who already has a thought disorder and hallucinations/delusions that they are being influenced by spirits is not helpful in the slightest.
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 9/18/2011 11:21:16 AM |
All those meds do is cut you off from your psychic senses but they are still there Well it certainly sounds as though you think the meds don't do much else. Hence the question..
Professional psychiatrist and doctors are examples of people who are ignorant. What a laughable statement. They know more about this particular disorder than YOU do, of that I am certain.
They admit that they don't know what the causes are and that is why their job is a 'practice' because they don't know. More ignorance. And what a ridiculous play on words, I wonder if they're even yours..
While the exact cause of schizoaffective disorder is not known, researchers believe that genetic, biochemical, and environmental factors are involved.
Genetics (heredity) : A tendency to develop schizoaffective disorder may be passed on from parents to their children.
Brain chemistry : People with schizophrenia and mood disorders may have an imbalance of certain chemicals in the brain. These chemicals, called neurotransmitters, are substances that help nerve cells in the brain send messages to each other. An imbalance in these chemicals can interfere with the transmission of messages, leading to symptoms.
Environmental factors : Evidence suggests that certain environmental factors -- such as a viral infection, poor social interactions or highly stressful situations -- may trigger schizoaffective disorder in people who have inherited a tendency to develop the disorder. http://www.webmd.com/schizophrenia/guide/mental-health-schizoaffective-disorder?page=2
What they could do is keep researching and figuring out a solution that addresses the cause to eliminate it altogether before treatment. Someone is having a psychotic break, here.. let's stop everything and research. Yeah, there's a plan 
There is ongoing research the the mental health field, that doesn't mean people who need it should go without treatment.
The only problem is the solution has been found and there is no money in it so their practice is just a business exploiting the suffering. If there was a 'solution' as you say, there would be proof, studies, evidence.. got any?
If you want to be intelligent, I suggest that you ask for clarification, do research, or figure out why a person says what they do before attacking them. Thanks tips, but I did ask for clarification.
This is all very off topic, but I'm not about to keep my mouth shut while someone suggests that a woman with a known disorder is possessed by spirits. | |
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| Dating with Schizo affective disorder Posted: 9/18/2011 1:36:25 PM | | i've seen patients with schizophrenia in the hospital. they are really awesomely disturbed. too much drama going on. i even had a bf with this disorder and he thinks he is Jesus. wow. good thing i do not love him anymore. | |
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