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 notnomadic
Joined: 10/25/2011
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"1984" is a good book, written by a committed socialist. Of course, Orwell was shouting a warning, one that you apparently do not get, as your constant defense of socialism (legalized theft from neighbor) shows.


This makes no sense. You can't have Orwell BOTH as a "committed socialist" AND as "shouting a warning" about socialism with the book 1984. What do you mean?

As it happens, Orwell was a committed opponent to totalitarianism (a political system), which is not the same thing as socialism (an economic system). So.....your point?
 timetogo3223
Joined: 9/29/2011
Msg: 150
Teabagger's - a grassroots movement or just more astroturf ?
Posted: 11/15/2011 2:43:31 PM
not...



This makes no sense. You can't have Orwell BOTH as a "committed socialist" AND as "shouting a warning" about socialism with the book 1984. What do you mean?

As it happens, Orwell was a committed opponent to totalitarianism (a political system), which is not the same thing as socialism (an economic system). So.....your point?


Before I get to my "point"... can I mention that it seems like so many of the liberal/progressive posters are really angry, and I honestly do no know why. Things in this country (US) are going swimmingly. You have a socialist in office and he is remaking the country the way he -- and I guess-- you all want. Yet when some poor conservative tries to make a point, it is met with anger and hostility and name calling. I thought you all believe in King -- Rodney, that is, about "getting along".

Now, to the point: yes you can have a committed socialist who was broadcasting a warning about where socialism can go, which by its nature is away from freedom and liberty, as power is given to the state and rights are derived from the same. This is just the same as there are those committed capitalists who decry the excesses of capitalism.
 Bladesmith81801
Joined: 10/30/2010
Msg: 151
Teabagger's - a grassroots movement or just more astroturf ?
Posted: 11/18/2011 8:39:32 AM
Evidently the Teabaggers give up their platform for smaller govt really quick when the GOP $$ start rolling in.....

"But while many say Black and her companions have created a split in the Republican Party, it is not visible among the companies and interest groups that are donating to members of Congress.

A joint analysis by iWatch News and the Center for Responsive Politics has found that the 15 freshmen members of the Tea Party Caucus have embraced many of the same special interests that have supported Republicans for years. The fifteen combined have received over $3,450,000 during the first three quarters of this year from almost 700 different PACs."



"Among the biggest PAC donors to the tea party freshmen are familiar Washington faces, including Honeywell International, which led the way both in number of donations and overall money given. The top five corporate PACs that donated to these freshmen:

•Honeywell International, a Fortune 100 company best known for its defense manufacturing, made 52 donations worth at least $105,000
•The American Bankers Association, one of the major trade associations for the financial sector, made 31 donations worth at least $53,000
•Lockheed Martin, one of the biggest defense contractors in the country, with 30 donations for at least $28,000
•Koch Industries, the company run by conservative billionaire brothers Charles and David Koch, made 29 donations worth at least $38,000
•The National Association of Realtors, a major trade group for real estate agents, with 29 donations worth $34,000."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-center-for-public-integrity/15-tea-party-caucus-fresh_b_1101194.html

So lets stop pretending that the TeaParty is anything mroe than the extreme arm of the GOP, mmmk?

Hypocrisy, table two!
 Imported_labor
Joined: 3/7/2008
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Teabagger's - a grassroots movement or just more astroturf ?
Posted: 11/18/2011 9:10:53 AM
I find it interesting that this entire thread has run under the title it has.

How about a tread that is entitled, "Butt **cking Occupiers Packing them in like Fudge, or just a Bunch of Runny Schist?"

Bet that one wouldn't last 5 minutes. Says something about the objectivity here.


Well, if you went back in this thread you would find that the biggest teabaggers in these forums are really proud of themselves.


LOL! This thread is GREAT...

First of all - I am a PROUD "Teabagger"... Especially now that a "Tea Bagging Redneck" in an old pickup truck just took Ted Kennedy's US Senate seat!


So, it looks like "teabagger" is here to stay.

Yet when some poor conservative tries to make a point, it is met with anger and hostility and name calling.


Looks like you suffer from hipocrisy bouts, or persecution complex. Your complaint is like the pot calling the kettle black. Look in the mirror of your posts:

Sorry, I meant "halfdad", not "halfminded".


That was un unwarranted insult to someone who had answered your question with very normal language: no slurs, no insults.



 timetogo3223
Joined: 9/29/2011
Msg: 153
Teabagger's - a grassroots movement or just more astroturf ?
Posted: 11/18/2011 1:27:50 PM
imported.....



That was un unwarranted insult to someone who had answered your question with very normal language: no slurs, no insults.


Was an honest error. Glad you're into mind reading and forum policing.

If there are some who claim to be member of the Tea Party and they want to self-identify with the action of a sac in the mouth, that is their business. Would expect that whatever they would say would sound like they have a mouthful of marbles.

I'll bet some posters here are really proud of the rapes and assaults and murders and destruction of property --not to mention frequent public defecation-- of Occupy Drum Bang, too.

But... to answer the question, the Tea Party is a grassroots organization, while the OWS are fleabaggers who don't have a clue.
 OyVay...
Joined: 7/15/2011
Msg: 154
Teabagger's - a grassroots movement or just more astroturf ?
Posted: 11/19/2011 11:22:26 AM
HOLY SH!T!!!!!

YOU are going to join with OWS? That must be a typo. You keep saying things like that, I may have to start to take you more seriously. Now just please drop the half truths and we can debate on a more even keel.

Sometimes people can surprise you.
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