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 Mr. Happy, PE
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Do you open her mouth to make sure she's got all her teeth?


This sounds like a great idea. Maybe I should do so because it would only be fair. Women have commented positively on and checked out my teeth ever since I was a teenager and I never had to have them straightened, laminated or anything else done to them. On the other hand most of the women I have dated who have had great looking teeth had worn braces and had multiple crowns or laminations.

By the way it is important check out women one is considering carefully just as one does a horse. Women should carefully check out men they are considering dating, too. Again, it is not a one way street.
 woobytoodsday
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Posted: 2/25/2010 4:35:27 PM
When I was a kid, I used to feel sorry for my mother, who despite the fact that she was dark haired and brown eyed was *very* allergic to the sun. She stayed pretty covered up if she was gardening or going on a picnic (no real sun screen then). Her face was practically without wrinkles when she died at 82. Most women I know have more at 35 than she ever did. Alas, I spent my feckless youth trying to get a tan. . . . I shall not go to my grave wrinkleless.

Guess you payz yer munny and takes yer choice. . . .

 ~Azul Ojos~
Joined: 7/2/2008
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Posted: 2/25/2010 6:30:15 PM
I look after both... I have used the same creams on my face for the last 35 years... and I try to exercise as often as I can... Recently taken up jazzercise, which is fun, intense, but effective... I am not overweight... not exactly as tight as I was 10 years ago, but working to be fitter all the time. I try to eat loads of fruits and vegetables, and not a lot of meat. It works for me... Truly believe, we are what we eat...
 Free-At-Last
Joined: 7/15/2009
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Posted: 2/25/2010 7:30:05 PM
Hmmm....Kathleen Turner. Now that woman was smoking hot in the movie "Body Heat" but (cough) to be completely honest both her face and azz have not aged gracefully over the years.

Doesn't really matter how great a woman's azz is if her face is a two-bagger.
~JMO~
 dawn1114
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Posted: 2/25/2010 8:13:46 PM

Without surgical intervention, slim women tend to show more wrinkles and looser skin tone

The problem with this whole discussion is the use of the word "slim." People tend to use it as a synonym for "underweight," which is patently incorrect. Slim women (and men, for that matter) are just people who are on the lower end of the scale of average/healthy-weight. And no, they don't wrinkle more than fleshier, but still average/healthy-weight people, taking such factors as sun-exposure, genetics and smoking, etc., out of the equation.

I do believe, however, that people who fall into the (truly) underweight realm do tend to have more wrinkly skin than MOST people who fall into the average or overweight realm.

That's a nutrition thing, I think. Underweight people aren't getting enough good food. They might even be eating JUST bad food. Average people obviously eat an average amount of healthy food, with maybe a bit of bad stuff in the mix. And MOST overweight people are at least eating some healthy food (and usually some bad stuff, granted), just too much of either or both for the amount of energy they expend.

There's a sub-group of fat people who just eat disgusting food, and they also have wrinkly skin as they age. Don't say you haven't seen them.

So I guess I fall into the "you are what you eat" contingent of this debate.
 serenityCW
Joined: 1/21/2006
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Posted: 2/25/2010 10:33:15 PM
hmmm. she married a old friend of mine's collegues in real estate. she may have arthritis, but she is one tough cookie and i've always admired her. i am sure she could care less what anyone thinks of her face or her ass.

well, i suppose one could stand on their head and moon everyone. that way your top and your bottom could shine at the same time! plus, for some, you get to show your "better half".

wrinkles? mostly sun damage. if you lose weight very slowly but surely, then not much flapping in the wind.

a lot of new and expensive products claim to repair dna. some interesting research on that on mercola's website. he's the holistic guru.

nonetheless, both can be addressed. as they say: it works when you work it!
 thecatsmeoww
Joined: 3/7/2009
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Posted: 2/26/2010 2:32:41 AM

You haven't asked a woman's preference, so please skip this reply if not interested.
A face with wrinkles is the natural outcome of aging. Some faces age earlier in years lived than others. So what?
An obese body which ---which is less-wrinkled strictly by virtue of its obese state of being --- is nonetheless an unhealthy body. Attached to a face.
This question is a no-brainer for anyone placing any value on physical wellness.


Excellent post.. Every once in awhile I have to comment on one.. We are also forgetting about wrinkles on the body.. you know the cottage cheese one can get when one is carrying too much weight lots more of it.

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 peppermint petunias
Joined: 9/2/2009
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Posted: 2/26/2010 4:49:23 AM

If he is not an azz man chances are he is not dating me
src=http://www.plentyoffish.com/smiles/icon_204.gif border=0> Cat.. lol

Our face loses the plumpness of youth and the slimmer our bodies are the slimmer the face esp after 35. Kathleen turner has the bucks to fix that IMO and may just be one who is spreading in the azz and likes to give antidotes as to why.
I have heard she was ill though..who knows?

I think women in Hollywood that don't have surgery are considered to age badly when it isn't that, it's just everyone has something done starting around 30 almost no exception.

I have watched Meryl Streep and other actresses go from looking and being 10-15 years older than me to looking my age and now in some cases looking younger.
They are getting work on a regular basis by skilled doctors.


I think the majority of men and women rather be in good shape than a perfect face. Just an opinion.

Look at that face on SJParker..if that isn't proof being a size 0, 1 or 2 with good hair in a nice dress will turn a mans head , nothing will.

I do not want to be rail thin though..my face really shows it and I don't have the cash laying around to implant and silicone or pull it up and such. LOL. Plus estrogen stores in fat cells, so I want SOME fat.

I will never give up taking care of myself in whatever way I can afford.
Starting with healthy foods.
 Nuthin2lus
Joined: 12/20/2009
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Posted: 2/26/2010 6:29:42 AM
Interesting replies; thanks to everyone who replied. Just a few follow up comments......, if you don't like this topic, why bother to contribute to it? My intent here was not to discuss Ms Turner, merely to cite her as the author of the quote. It is my understanding that she takes medication that causes weight gain, at any rate, the statement was made before the onset of her illness. The media pushes looking "young" and I was interested if this was really a big deal IRL, for both men and women, I don't get how you read male bashing into my question. As far as the fitness/health debate - that is a whole different topic. Of course we want to be healthy, and muscle tone does not necessarily translate to skin tone. I stated that I was not talking about extremes; "fat" vs "skinny". In my real life, in my youth, when I was modeling, I could comfortably fit into a size 4, but I found that as time marched on, my face began to look drawn and a FEW extra pounds were actually more becoming. You may interpret my screen name as either choice, as both are true - LOL.
 LG2727
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Posted: 2/26/2010 8:59:00 AM
I have heard women who have always been thin and boyish say that is why they are so wrinkled, and healthy curvy women have smooth skin, because somehow thier "fat" fills out the wrinkles?? Unfortunately, if you dont take care of your skin, thin, avg ,or overweight, you will sag and wrinkle, (wrinkles dont come from lack of to much fat!)this goes for men too. People who have proper body fat just look better because they arn't denying their bodies proper nutrition like the "must be thin at all costs people" So, I guess its true, deny your body the nutrition it needs, ruin your skin, hair , etc, but you'll have a flat butt any 11 yr old boy would envy.
 SassySky
Joined: 9/26/2008
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Posted: 2/26/2010 9:29:18 AM

you know the cottage cheese one can get when one is carrying too much weight lots more of it.

OH thank you for the virtual ewww..
This thread actually was tossed around my office yesterday. Since the discussion of comestic surgery is always being debating should you or shouldn't you type of thing.

I guess the reason I am so againest it, is think of****Clark, had a great face but you could imagine what the rest of him looked like. At sometime in our aging process we are going to get wrinkles whether it our face or somewhere else on our body's.

As far as genetics, good diet, excercise they all play a huge factor. I for one am thankful I do mean deeply thankful the women in my family don't have huge problems with the cottage cheese thing going on or sagging skin. I do also have to agree with the sun playing a huge factor.

I know I have never been a sun person, I like it and yet can't do heat, have alway lived in colder climates. My mom and dad retired to the mid west and well I noticed my mom's skin has aged considerably, asked why. She freely admitted after retirement she had gotten lazy, didn't take care of her skin and goes out in the sun alot.

OP there was no offense meant by my post about this lady.. I felt you were giving us a choice by her words. And as far as this woman being smoking hot in a movie. IFyou look at all her pictures older and the most current she has had skin problems. Make up can only hide so much.
 pazoozoo
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Posted: 2/26/2010 10:41:33 AM
I know of a real life example of slim body/wrinkle face attraction. A friend of mine was about 35 lbs. overweight. She had a large frame and carried it well. Also, she had a lovely face with beautiful skin. Along with that she is an educated woman, with varied interests and a delightful, happy personality.

As a 60th b'day present to herself, she decided to lose the extra lbs. She did it over a period of a year by diet and exercise. Unfortunately, people do reach an age when skin becomes loose and saggy with a significant weight loss.

Wearing her clothes, her body looked slim, athletic, and youthful. Her face looked as thought she was in her early 70's. Before she lost the weight, even though her face was lovely, she had very few men show any interest. After the weight loss, her social life improved dramatically. To the point, she elected to have the excess skin removed from her tummy and upper arms, but no cosmetic procedure done to her face.

So, at least in that particular case, men were much more interested in a nice body than a pretty face.
 kpooks
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Posted: 2/26/2010 1:18:10 PM
SLIM BODY!!! Doesn't have to be stick-thin, but nicely-shaped and toned. Face, I could care less about wrinkles. I can iron them out with my kisses lol.
 moraima
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Posted: 2/26/2010 1:38:00 PM
I have never figured out why most people don't understand that many slim bodies and also curvy and muscular. My body shape is the same as my friends. We don't go to the gym. Just work hard around our properties and our bodies stay in good shape.

Don't get my started on my wrinkles...............I did earn them. Loved every min. in the sun, and will continue to. SPF isn't good for the immune system, and the liver and kidneys must detox it from the body. I go out of my way to never buy products with SPF in them.
 karma1160
Joined: 6/10/2008
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Posted: 2/26/2010 3:33:26 PM
Well I am looking for healthy, I will take a few wrinkles and a few xtra pounds as long as they come with a good disposition and a stable mind.
I would hope someone would have the same grace for me, but if they don't, I will see them on their second time around here I am sure.
 moraima
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Posted: 2/26/2010 4:19:05 PM
I'll take healthy, slim/curvy, with a few wrinkles, a good dispostion and a stable mind. None of these things have to exclude any of the other things.
 Stray__Cat
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Posted: 2/26/2010 4:23:52 PM
A cute face.
Bodies can be changed.
Even over 40.
Faces can't.
Well, maybe with $urgery.
 Jizanicee
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Posted: 2/26/2010 4:54:26 PM
Really, not black and white. Where has all the gray gone in life???? Life is way to short to worry if I have to many wrinkles or a phattt azzzz! I kind of feel that if a person judges by my body well it's there loss and not mine.
 *mae* flowers
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Posted: 2/26/2010 5:37:48 PM
...I would choose face over body....someone with lots of laugh lines. Love that twinkly eye, crinkly kinda look when they smile. A few pounds over weight can easily be worked off *wink*.....I'm not wrinkle free and far from being Skinny Minnie either.
I can tell ya, as I've aged, it's been a struggle to maintain a healthy weight over the years...I've had to work bloody hard at it.

...mae
 Nuthin2lus
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Posted: 2/27/2010 3:46:00 AM
No offense taken, Sassy. You brought up a very interesting side line - the cosmetic surgery thing. It is a HOT topic among women (I don't know if men discuss it or not). I have a dear friend who is a few years older than myself who had a face lift. It was expensive and painful but she looked fabulous after the recovery period. It has not improved her social life one iota. BTW, she also has a great slim figure and is one of the nicest people I have ever known. Actually, this whole thing seems a bit illogical to me - why we equate the way someone looks with sexual prowess. IME, It rarely translates.
 StevieCashmere
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Posted: 2/27/2010 5:29:42 AM
Lovely Personality...the other 2 might get a 'date' but this the only ingredient is for a real relationship

~sc~
 WaywardWynde
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Posted: 2/27/2010 7:15:04 AM
Getting a date is LOTS more things than a trim body, pretty face, and "a lovely personality".

Yes, for sure getting 30 or 40 pounds overweight will pretty much destroy social life, as will an ugly personality.

Yet ...

... one has to WANT a date before one can get a date. And there are thousands of ways for a woman to tell a man she simply does not want a date, perhaps with him, perhaps with no man.

Baggy clothes, unflattering hair style, clunky shoes, purse held over chest, shoulders turned away from him, knees tightly together, arms together, palms never facing up, never leaning into the guy, never pressing one's hips against the guy, never dropping one's head to look out the tops of the eyes, never turning one's head left or right to look out the sides of eye, never massaging one's necks, never touching one's throat, never picking "lint" off one's blouse, never scratching one's hand or wrist, never crossing one's ankles, cutting off a smile before it develops, never asking the guy about him, cutting him off in mid-sentence, lifting back when the guy is talking, dismissing his thoughts, complaining that "all men are interested in is sex", talking about the latest news item which shows purported violence against women, complaining about "glass ceilings", complaining that laudries charge more to iron a woman's blouse compared to a man's shirt, and on into the night, the day after, the week after, the seasons after.

There are thousands and thousands and thousands of way to kill the ardor of even the most interested of men.

When a trim woman with a good looking face and "a lovely personality" can't get a date, SHE is doing something to tell all those men who approach her that she is NOT interested.

Men, they be smarts, they catch on quickly.

Think not? Change the genders in the paragraph that starts "Baggy clothes" and ask yourself just how long even the most interested of women would stick around a guy who acted like that. And, yes, some guys do act like that. Some guys who simply don't want that woman, other guys who don't want any woman.

If one wants a date, one has to WANT a date. If one wants to project an interest in a potential partner, all one has to do is what movie actors do, which is to tell themselves they "will ACT as if they are sexually, emotionally, intellectually" interested. It works, for actors, and for lovers.

On the other hand, looking at a potential mate and projecting the thought "What's wrong with this turkey?" tends to come across as one without interest.
 I sure am looking!
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Posted: 2/27/2010 9:46:40 AM
Since the choices are Smooth Face or Slim Body and barring obesity/anorexia/surgerical intervention then here it is...
In my 20's I would say Slim Body...
In my 30's I would say Slim Body...
In my 40's I would say 'hummm???...yeah I was that confused at that age.
In my 50's I say...Smooth Face...because I accept the reality and already know the affects of what sitting behind a desk for 37+ years does to a woman's (and man's) body. So with the smooth face comes what I hope will be there of laugh crinkles around eyes and mouth, some sagging neckline from years of trying to stay physcially fit with weight gain and loss and gain and loss, and maybe a furrowed brow from deep thoughts trying to solve the problems of life.
I don't know which I will choose in my 60's but I lean towards just being alive and healthy.
 youncy
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Posted: 2/27/2010 9:54:15 AM
I am getting very close to 45, I just discovered my inner sexiness. My body is slender and the only wrinkles are my smile lines. I, like most women I think, are over obsessed with their bodies. Are men as concerned with theirs? In my recent dating experiences, men desire trim, fit women that are attractive, however they seem to think nothing of their larger than average stomachs. I agree heartily with Nuthin2lus, "spare us". Attractiveness/sexiness is mostly in the attitude anyway.
 WaywardWynde
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Posted: 2/27/2010 10:23:05 AM

In my recent dating experiences, men desire trim, fit women that are attractive, however they seem to think nothing of their larger than average stomachs.


To hear women tell the public story, women (from puberty on) are interested only in a man's "personality", NOT his looks. Having heard that story again and again and again and again over whatever period of time, some men actually believe that.

My sincere suggestion is if a woman does not want to sit across a restaurant table from a man with a bellly, she shoudn't sit across a restaurant table from a man with a belly. If a woman wants to date only men with a trim belly, she should date only men with a trim belly.

Problem solved.

Actually, after a bit the guy(s) with a belly figure out it's time to lose the belly.

It also helps to never have a dinner date with a man unmet. Unpleasant looking men figure that the price of a " fine dinner" will get them a date or two they would not otherwise get. Sometimes they are right.
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