Durken
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/12/2008 10:13:22 AM | | Women will always go for the money first, only natural, then kick in your good charm and level head so they stay with you. You provide what they want and they'll love you for it. Otherwise what's the use in getting a college education and working so hard at a good career for??? | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/12/2008 2:33:17 PM | An honest thread. It's great.
Truth in advertising. Or should we say that marketing has won and women now believe that money is happiness.
They have adjusted for inflation also. Yes, when the home costs $800,000, the trip to europe is at least $5000, gas is hitting $5.00 a gallon, and that hybrid is at $50,000 if your not at $250,000/yr. or higher you are the weakest link. | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/12/2008 4:22:04 PM | Why the surprise in many of these posts? Of course *most* Western women marry for the money (especially the prettier ones - they have more options). And yes, they tell themselves they'll just fall in love later. If money is their top priority, then I suppose they could fool themselves into believing they love their husbands. In their case, money did buy them happiness. There does exist (maybe 2% of the female population) Western women who are both very pretty and don't have money as their top priority. But those women are already married so, sorry fellas...bad news there as well.
If you are a man, and you are "well off" it would be best to pretend that you are an average Joe. Even go so far as setting up a land trust if you own lots of real estate - to prevent the gold diggers from getting an idea of your net worth based on a name search. I would also suggest that you "hide your toys." I get fewer girls this way but at least I know they are not going out with me for my money - just for my good looks and charm.  | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/12/2008 5:57:26 PM | Definately not a surprise for me. Just nice to see it being discussed and aknowlegded.
I have lived in LA all my life and even the not so hot women fit into this picture. I love the ones that say that money and material things mean nothing to them but marry, become bored by everyday life, divorce, take 1/2 of everything and destroy their ex financially with attorneys then off to the next guy because their needs never got met.
I have friends at work who have wives that make their lives miserable, constant complaining, never happy, spending the family money into oblivion. They are afraid to divorce because they will be totally wiped out and lose everything they have worked their whole lives for.
I have met men who boast about the affairs they have. Most have a situation similar as above but have decided that women are only good for their bodies. | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/13/2008 1:35:05 AM | Sadly, in this system, money is the only way to survive, raise a family(if that is want you want), and have amenities that make others like to be around you or to make one feel like they have established some sort of superiority. Just turn on the television to see what is being sold to supposedly make our lives more complete. I guess having material possessions signals to people, particularly women that a man can support and care for off spring. The problem is that in a free economy, the wealth gets concentrated into certain groups and networks, so one might be a hard a hard worker, very creative, and a caring individual, but may be out of the loop in terms of acquiring true wealth. Most women don't really care about this because they are targeted by family, cultural tradition, churches, and the media to look for this in "potential" males. Sadly, it ends up being a power issue that they want to engage men in. If a man doesn't "fit the bill" he is disqualified. Attractiveness can bring wealth too and companies exploit it in marketing to the fullest in both males and females. I think that some woman focus on wealth but deep down inside, they want security. However, men want that same security that wealth can bring but in a competition based society, there will be a couple of "winners" but sadly, many "losers". It is truly an economic game we all are forced to play. Societies generally frown on the poor in most developed nations. These women are a result of being socialized to think a certain way. You can't really blame them. However, as far as "love" is concerned, it definitely has a price tag if you approach it quickly or like a commodity. On the other hand, I think that if you approach it realistically and wisely, it can manifest into that energy that helped us to populate this earth since we first evolved. Thank "God"... | |
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~Kyn~
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/13/2008 1:37:11 AM | I posed a question would you go with a guy for love or money???? If he was poor and would show you love would you marry him?? Or would you go for the guy who could give you everything in life you ask???? I was amazed at the responses...
Every single woman said MONEY.....they said you can fall in love later...... I choose Love
...and you CANT fall inlove later...it doesnt happen like that...dunno wtf those women were on about.
But you CAN make money. Thats the easy part. | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/13/2008 1:41:38 AM | | To be honest i would go for love. I could not be with a man just because of his money, i would not be happy if i didn't love him. I have friends with so called "sugar daddies" and i don't know how they do it. I do pretty well on my own so i don't need a man for money. I wouldn't want a bum livin off of me though, no way in this lifetime or any am i supporting a man! | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/13/2008 1:09:00 PM | Fall in love later? Like when? When the coin runs out or becomes old? Money can't keep you warm at night. Well ok, it can if you have enough of it to burn in the fireplace! LOL
I guess I live in the same unrealistic world as OP. I thought I was with the program...now apparently, I have to get with the system!
Love over money for me! Now...just to find me some. | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/13/2008 9:20:42 PM | | These women sound like real pieces of work. (and that is NOT a compliment). There is no amount of money in the world that could make me marry someone. I will either marry for love or die an old cat lady!!! | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/14/2008 8:16:59 PM | | Why marry for money? You can make your own money. Only twice in my life have I ever considered marrying someone. Once it was for pragmatic / legal reasons, and the second time it was for plain old-fashioned head-over-heels love (where I honestly would have rather seen him with less money so that he wouldn't have been as focused on material things). | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/14/2008 10:03:44 PM | I have never dated a man with money. I date men because I am very attracted to them and they have all the other qualities I am looking for. I must admit that I am starting to think about retirement and what I am going to do when Social Security isn't available.
But, I still would never marry someone for money. I want someone who I am blissfully in love with and it is returned to me. Who needs money? | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/24/2008 7:27:52 AM | Anyone who chooses a person because of their financial status is setting theirselves up for a fall. What if that person lost everything? It happens a lot these days. And when you turn off the light at night and lay there thinking, how does your soul feel about your choice? Women should provide for theirselves. The era of depending on a man should be over. Visa versa. I've been suckered more times than I care to recall. No one should pretend to be in love .....you end up so lonely it hurts far more than being alone. I feel no affection for women who target wealthy men, but many wealthy men want to be chosen BECAUSE they are rich. The standards people have never cease to amaze me. To me, love is the greatest treasure in life, and the only real thing. All worldly objects are left behind when we die. Only the spirit lives on. I focus on the spirit. | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/24/2008 7:33:21 AM | | Love is grand, but without a job, it would be hard to make it work! | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/24/2008 9:28:37 AM | I had the money part with my ex, and see where that got me? lol
I'm looking forward to finding someone for an un-ending friendship, leading to the rest of the entire enchilada... | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/24/2008 1:39:21 PM | | i would marry for love but since i got my own money | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/24/2008 6:18:19 PM | For me its not about the money. While I wont go near a slob that refuses to work, I believe that two people can cooperate and make anything work even with modest amounts of money. I believe that there's no need for us all to want to be CEO's, but the perpetually unemployed can stay away. I just care that you have *a* job that you respect like you do your paycheck.
My view is that money can be made later, we can get or find money, but there is no substitute for love.
Alan Jackson has a great song called "Living on Love" that kind of describes this. For me there is no greater wealth than to know that waking up every day I have someone that loves me and that I love the same way. | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 7/25/2008 1:36:49 PM | I must admit, I've questioned myself on this one in the past. I think I actually allowed myself to fall for a loser because I was confused about whether his lack of money was affecting my judgement more than I thought was right.
If the choice was between two men I knew; -poor emotionally stable loving man or -rich man whose personal qualities were questionable
I'd go for the poor man every time!
Thing is, IN MY OPINION, there is some correlation between not being responsible and not having money. I'm not talking about being rich, just literally nothing.
It makes sense that if you can't live to your means or hold down a job, that a potential partner will wonder what the underlying cause is. Whilst its far from in every case, often what makes someone undesirable to employ can make them undesirable to share a life with or what means they find it hard managing their life and finances means they also struggle to manage their behaviour in a relationship.
This means that I have to admit that someone who isn't financially independent (they dont have to have a high standard of living) is less likely to be noticed by me.
This seems unfair and harsh I know, but we all try to learn from our experiences and look for clues that act as early warning devices. I'm just as likely to pass someone over because they have too much money thinking that they're probably too obsessed with possessions for my liking.
These rules only apply to strangers though because we've only got stringy evidence to go on, I think most of us are judgemental with strangers and more open minded as we get to know a person.
I know there has to be a balance though, and some willingness to have these vast assumptions over turned or I'd end up ruling out every stranger/fish in the sea one way or another and not getting to know any of them. It would be my loss too, I know! lol | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 8/8/2008 6:55:31 AM | | I'd take love over money any day! Money cannot buy true happiness. | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 8/8/2008 9:32:44 AM | | It depends on how poor. Does this guy at least have a job?? If he has a job and is able to at least pay his bills, than yes, I would marry for love, rather than money. If I have to support him and pay all his bills, than no, I would move on. | |
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| For money or love??? Posted: 8/8/2008 11:45:55 AM | $$$$ I have lots of money...just ask the IRS,donnigton Home finance, MASTERCARD,Guido(loanshark)--3kids--STATE FARM...
Now how do you eat on $ 2.06 a day ????  | |
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