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Posted: 6/13/2005 9:42:00 PM | my son was in 6th grade... my son was sitting at the lunch bench waiting for his lunch to be served and this little white kid walked up to him and tried to bully him out of his seat. my son simply sat there and told the kid he could have the seat when he was done with it. when the boy spit in his face and called him a stupid "N" word, my son calmly wiped his face and stayed in the seat, ate his lunch and got up when he was done. because he didn't react the way the kid thought he would..
This incident has NOTHING to do with interracial dating nor the result of "procreating",this happens to other AfricanAmerican kids regardless of their parents racial makeup. If you are saying your child would not have been a victim of racism if he were not AfricanAmerican but white,you are correct,but he would not be your son.My point is that the issues you faced are not as a result of interracial marriage,but as a result of institutionalized racism. There is only 1 way to deal with it;educate,elevate and live. I've worked with children for over 20yrs. Before that I studied various issues concerning race in the US,including adoption. The biggest keys are always within the home,is the child loved,does the child have positive imagery,does the child have perspective and grasp on cultural heritage,does the child know what an AfricanAmerican is(mixed race person of African descent)in the case of mulitracial,biracial AfricanAmerican kids.Sometimes,parents allow their own negativity enter into the minds of children.This is most often true in the case of intolerence.
Is raising African American kids more difficult than raising white kids?....Only when the parents don't know the history(well BEFORE and BEYOND school) and culture to teach them. Those are things relatively easy to aquire if parents love their children(libraries are full of info).Outside of these issues,there is NO difference in experience of raising products of 2 white parents and an AfricanAmerican kid(mixed race of an African descent)
I am about as much an authority on this matter as a sand crab is to flyfishing but your post is in my opinion one of the more lucid, clearly articulated explanations of how racism makes its way into our society that I've had the pleasure of coming across. Thanks marathonman....
I don't like to "validate" hate inciting topics but I just wanted to acknowledge that I'm rather impressed with the fact that this thread hasnt been reduced into a mud slinging venom fest due in large part to some very mature individuals. Not that my opinion matters jack squat but it matters to me. | |
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Posted: 6/13/2005 10:01:28 PM | this is my favorite quote
"Are we greater than the sun, that shines on everyone
red yellow black or white , the sun does not discriminate...."
God made different colors so we would have a greater variety of culture to embrace and learn about. | |
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Posted: 6/14/2005 8:16:39 PM | great quotation rfl...what baffles me is how this can even be a topic for discussion..
makes no difference whatsover to me... | |
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Posted: 6/16/2005 6:43:09 AM | i think it's absolutely dumbfounding that people like marathon & reformed don't see the correlation between interacial dating and the children that are born as a result of those relationships. even growing up with my mom, who's obviously white & my step-dad, who's black... i experienced racist torment from other kids.
there's nothing hateful about this topic if you discuss it intelligently reformed. i happen to speak from first hand experience. the experience i had while i was in an interacial relationship was horrible, that's not to say all interacial relationships are horrible, but mine was and i'm entitled to share my opinion here... having my son is a blessing, that's true but that didn't come without social consequences we had to overcome. it's just a fact that there are people out there that do not condone interacial relationships or the children that are born from them and these folks can make life real difficult for people like me and especially my son. you'd be amazed at the number of children that are taught to hate someone based on their race. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2005 1:44:34 PM | I see why you named yourself "Tainted". Are you stupid or just ignorant? How would you even know if a man had been "sexual with a black chick"? I'm black and have dated and been in relationships with white men, exclusively, for the past 20 years, because that is my personal choice. It's such a common thing now, that it's rarely even thought of as "mixing"!
How do you know you would never date a black guy? Have you even had the opportunity to do so? There're some mighty fine black guys out there, the same as white, hispanic, asian, etc. From the looks of you, you'd probably date anything that came down the pike. I understand that there are many people who don't believe in interracial dating, but for some reason, the way you said it just sounds ignorant, and yes, like you are mentally tainted. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2005 1:59:18 PM | Sorry Tainted Angel! It was beneath me to post a nasty post like that. It's just that when you said you would never date a white man who had been with a black chick, it just made me want to say something mean.  | |
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Posted: 6/17/2005 3:35:54 PM |
being black does not mean you are of "african" decent but of course you being a black man wouldn't have known that huh? what part of africa are your decendants from?
Lets see,you are as your profile states "white" yet YOU think your uninformed opinion leads some crediblity to lead YOU to tell ME what AfricanAmerican means? 
Its obvious that you will think what you wish, which is your perrogative.Still,the thought is based upon ignorance of the topic/subject matter.This is yet 1 of the reasons I suggested learning about AfricanAmerican culture/history.You can only impart to others what you know,you have demonstrated NO knowledge on the subject. All AfricanAmericans have an African ancestry,if you do not understand this or know this there is NO need to discuss the matter for if you do NOT understand, it shows you choose to have an opinion based upon ignorance. To the last part of your question,Seirra Leone,and Sudan/Ethiopia/Egypt are were 2 branches of my ancestors came from.  
until children are old enough to understand the concept of history and how it relates to different cultures, it makes no sense to pump their heads full of information that doesn't help them understand and cope with what they are experiencing at a current moment in time
Ok,old enough is 2nd grade for sure for by 2nd grade it is taught in school.Actually social studies which is in part a cultural study is taught in 1st grade sometimes K. even preschool.
There is a theme to your negativity towards what you claim to teach as tolerance.what you seem to have is an intolerance for that which you do not know and is of the AfricanAmerican culture.examine the 2 items I have quoted.......the pattern of making a judgement based upon lack of knowldge(the definition of ignorance) is clear. You claim AfricanAmericans are not of African descent,yet that is clearly based upon ignorance and intolerance of even considering obvious fact.Your claim about children having an age of understanding is weakend by the fact of what age/stage you stated your son was when the incident occured.He was certainly old enough to have been taught history/cultural heritage then for he was at school.
I have particular problems with the term African-American, a misnomer which would lead me to believe these people somehow hold dual citizenship with another country, or even worse, lead everyone to believe all those who use that term to describe themselves are of African origin and are exclusively black in color
You may have a problem with the term AfricanAmerican but it is NOT for YOU to decide what a people call themselves That is the height of hypocracy and pompousity to think that YOU have some say in what another group of people chose to call themselves as a racial classification. AfricanAmericans have chosen for themselves what to call themselves just as "whites" have chosen for THEMSELVES what to call themselves.Your bias is clear,for your perspective is illogically slanted and unreciprical(fair). To the ridiculous premise of dual citizenship in another country.......Africa is NOT a country See,those studies in history and culture would have REALLY paid off. The last part of that statement shows how negative your idealogical slant is against that which is African(even beyond your CHOSEN ignorance of history) " even worse, lead everyone to believe all those who use that term to describe themselves are of African origin and are exclusively black in color"
"Worse" shows your negative slant.How is being of African descent "worse"?The use of the phrase "black" in color,this shows how negativity prevents coherent rational thought.You imply its negative to use AfricanAmerican because it would lead some to believe they are "exclusively black in color" yet YOU have used the term "black" to refer to a group of people who are NOT "exclusivly black in color". Contradictory,slanted,illogical and VOID of ANY factual base.AfricanAmerican like AsianAmerican,NativeAmerican have NO color base.If someone who hears the term is believes it is,it is THEIR OWN IGNORANCE that takes them there. Generally that ignorance is based upon the institution of racism that is rooted in IGNORANCE and intolerance.There are white Africans who are of Eruopean ancestry,they have CHOSEN a racial term for THEMSELVES. If YOU have a problem with the term,it would seem logical to LEARN be open to understanding so that you may recieve knowledge rather than remain intolerant and...having ideas that are ignorant(lacking knowledge).
At least with the Census Bureau, their are Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, Native Americans, Other, and Whites.
Census bureau list Asians,AfricanAmerican/Black,Hispanic/Latino(non white)Native American White/Caucasion ect....what does this show, the use of TERMINOLOGY is changing.In the same Bureau 50 yrs ago the classification for AfricanAmericans was "coloured",before and after that Negro,then Black,......what does this show change/modernation,previously just as AfricanAmericans could not vote,they had NO say in what term they might chose for THEMSELVES as a better fit.Racial classification is very VERY loosely and weakly based upon science.It is a system of labels, somewhat arbituary at that.
, I'm as native an American as one can get. Why do we continue to confound ourselves with inaccurate and self-serving terms? Why perpetuate lies? Either we are Americans first and foremost, or we aren't. There really is an easy solution to this whole problem, those of us born within the boundaries of the United States are Americans, period.
I am a native of the Americas. My Patralinial grandmother was full Seminole,my mother is part Tiano,my patralinial grandfather is part Gullah and Cuban,part of our linage in the Americas goes back before recorded history. YOU seem, from the display of your post seem to confound YOURSELF with an inaccurate term.The base of that post is inaccuracy and lies.
If someone thinks that the term AfricanAmerican means they are NOT American that is their own issue with their own lack of knowldge and awarness.AfricanAmericans have always been American,just as NativeAmericans and IrishAmericans,ItalianAmericans and many others.It ONLY separates if someone is bigoted enough to believe that it does.
Separating ourselves into groups and isolated pockets of society will only serve one purpose, it will allow others to divide and conquer us all that much easier. There was a time that we were all considered American, we had a common goal and destiny to fulfill. We had a message to share with the rest of the world ? that of hope for a tomorrow that would be better for all of us if we would just put aside our differences and work toward a common goal: Peace in our time ? for all time.
Do you REALLY beleive a group of Americans aren't currently "considered" American?Would that group be AfricanAmericans? How so? AfricacanAmericans have been among the most loyal Americans,dispite the FACT that they were religated to 2nd class citizenship during the"time......we were all considered Americans" AfricanAmerican as a racial term of classification is NO more separating than "Negro","Coloured" or "black" and MUCH more accurate than 2(negro,black)more practicle than all.Once again,a group of people must have the right to determin what they chose to call themselves as a collective.AfricanAmerican means mixed race people of African descent,the AMERICAN obviously entails
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For every step of progress we make toward that end, I think we slide further back by accentuating our differences rather than focusing on our similarities.
This is fine,however the title of this thread is interracial dating. the discussion is about dating between various racial/ethnic groups,therefore the point of mentioning race is to acknowlege a label an ethnic group has chosen.It is fine to get to a point of not using labels,however,in this system it is NOT AfricanAmerican who do the separating for the system of separtion was set beyond the control of AfricanAmericans. If as you say you wish to dispense with labels start with YOURSELF and encourage ALL you know to change their drivers liscense,birth certificates,and census survey to OTHER in place of "white".It will be THEN that you can claim to TRUELLY wish to dispense with labels that separate. My perspective is the center of tolerance is actually to EMBRACE various coultures. I do not look negatively in ANY way to KoreanAmericans,GreekAmericans,ItllianAmericans,IrishAmericans,GermanAmericans nor the various organizations across the USA.I celebrate with them their heritage as enriching the lanscape.I say the same must be true of others embracing AfricanAmericans and the culture and festivals that go with them.Instead of the slanted perception exposed in that post.
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Posted: 6/17/2005 3:52:49 PM | it's just a fact that there are people out there that do not condone interacial relationships or the children that are born from them and these folks can make life real difficult for people like me and especially my son.
Yes,as it is also a fact that there are people (MOSTLY the same) who do not condone the advancement nor even the existence of AfricanAmericans PERIOD.That means NOTHING to relationships outside of the fact that in the USA it has been true and to a lessor extint continues to be true that when a white woman choses to have a child by an AfricanAmerican man her AfricanAmerican child will face the same/similar injustices,for in a society in which the history of intolerance towards mixture of ANYTHING of African descent the fact of the amount of mixture is of little to no safegaurd from that ignorance. It is as this if a people are prejudice against a can of mixed nuts,the fact that there may be more peanut or more cashew in 1 can does not change the fact that it is a can of mixed nuts,and those who are prejudice remain. The KEY to this is NOT to conform to that form of prejudice but to live,celibrate and embrace the heritage and history and INFORM those unfortunate ignorant biased people of the evilness and stupidity in their thought/ways.
My experience in this I believe speaks volumes......Think about it
BTW,thank you reformed. | |
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Posted: 6/17/2005 4:01:56 PM | Being Korean/Jamaican,I've always dated different ethnicity's,as I've also enjoyed learning about different cultures.  | |
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Posted: 6/17/2005 7:11:45 PM | | it's too bad you wasted so much time typing all that crap i'll never read marathon... | |
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Posted: 6/17/2005 10:01:20 PM | Hmmmmm,you addressed that post to me,yet you said you didn't read it Yeah right .Besides,still rather pompous to believe it was ONLY/mainly for your eyes Par for the course (besides,what can you say now that you've been exposed? there is no answer to truth)
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Posted: 6/19/2005 12:55:06 AM | after reading the first quote it was quite obvious you responded to me marathon. that didn't take a genius to figure out but that was probably hard for you to see considering you're so slow. wow... it took me all of a second to scroll down and see that you spent way too much time typing what was probably a load of crap i had no interest in reading so i only had to read the first few words of the quote you posted to decide your response wasn't worth reading. when you really have something to say, let me know and maybe i'll pay attention... til then... keep watching tv, practice your spelling and don't forget to keep memorizing all those nifty metaphores to entertain yourself between over selecting icons to post throughout each of your responses... quite frankly, it bores me to discuss anything with you anymore because you lack the intelligence to keep up with me in these forums.
we obviously disagree on the long term affects of interacial dating and that's that. | |
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Posted: 6/19/2005 7:31:09 PM | i only had to read the first few words of the quote
This actually somewhat contradicts your statement that you didn't read it. The substance is there and you cannot dispute TRUTH,so you run.That action is once again par for the course in childishness. Your post LACK SUBSTANCE.
Spelling errors? For someone who makes them herself with frequently as well,it is nothing more than the hypocracy shown in many of your post. It is OBVIOUS that in EVERY thread that has anything even remotely to do with race on which you post,your post have been consistently anti AfricanAmerican.Perhaps,the 6th grade AfricanAmerican student you spoke of didn't fight back due to his mother putting an acceptance of negativity towards his own being in him long before school age.
We nor anyone has to agree.However,what is obvious is that when your slanted negative biased remarks go challenged,you shift and shuffle rather than address intelligently.Allow me to borrow from you" keep watching tv, practice your spelling" and don't forget to keep memorizing all those IGNROANT, slogans and idealogies you've used in other threads including this.After all,you know you can't make them seem logical,so run.
Your slant and lies will not be missed,run along.
On topic;LOVE is a rare commodity,it would seem worse than foolish to let love or even the potentiality of it pass by due to a poorly defined,subjective thing such as race ad ethnicity.To worry or wonder what others will think is nothing short of shallow,after all,in the end of the day,if the pool of prospects was limited due to some racist thought, negativity would have won and none of those "people" to whom the concern(of what they think) was given to will be able to give the love lost due to ignorance.
Remember; race is not a science,it is subjective.Using the current categories of race there is much more difference within races than between races.True acceptance is the willingness and desire to embrace cultural heritage of others,rather than desiring them to morph into something else. | |
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Posted: 6/25/2005 4:54:43 PM |
Comments, feelings, thoughts on the topic...
I'm interested in knowing what people think...
Steering us back to the ORIGINAL POST, I'll give my take on the issue:
Personally, I'm all for it, but this is a decision I came to after much soul searching and consideration for what that would really mean. Since dating for me now means "serious dating" (i.e. something that can lead to marriage), I had to consider all aspects of this before making my decision.
I consider myself to be quite educated and enlightened, but even I can admit that racism still exists and still permeates many aspects of our lives. I'm not one of those people that boils EVERYTHING down to race, but I'm also not one of those people who will act as though it's okay to be "color blind" and act as though race in America is simply about skin tone, because the bottom line is IT ISN'T!
I know that choosing to be with a non-Black man will be difficult in many ways, so therefore if I chose to do so it would have to be a well thought out conscious decision and we'd both have be in agreement that we were going to stick in the relationship together and be willing to "weather the storms" that we would truly face when we decide to progress in our relationship (i.e. cultural differences, having children, etc.).
I have my own reasons as to why I would be willing to "put up" with the "stress" of a long-term interracial relationship, but I've often wondered what would make someone else (e.g. a white man, who is conceivably at the top of the racial preference "pecking order") decide to embark on such a journey? | |
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Posted: 6/26/2005 12:46:09 AM | i couldn't have said that better myself simpsonfan. i think it's very smart of you to consider all aspects of your life when making the choice to have an inter-racial relationship. you've got a good head on your shoulders. ;)
i don't fall in the "white man" category but i can tell you this much... not many, if any, white men i know or have come accross through life, feel they are superior to another based on their race... education maybe but i've yet to meet a white man that feels he's a better suitor because he's white. as a white woman... i don't think about my race on a daily basis... i am who i am but being white is never in the back of my mind. for some reason... race didn't become a "real" issue in my life until i gave birth to my son. i had experienced forms of racial hate prior to having my son because my step-dad (just for the record, i call him dad - don't want to confuse anyone) is black but none of that mattered to me... this man changed my diapers, i was raised by him beginning in my early year through all the years he was married to my mom and they divorced when i was in the 10th grade. my father could have dumped me along with my mom but he didn't do that... he's still very much a part of my life and i love him for being such an awesome father and damn everyone that ever gave me trouble over that relationship... they're ignorant. i didn't see real ignorance until i had my son though... and that came from both sides... i was hated by blacks and whites for the choice i made in having an "inter-racial" baby. some people don't understand the concept of interacial dating and some do... for those that don't, they can make your life miserable as they did for years with me and my son. my son took the brunt of the racial hate from all sides... asians, hispanics, blacks and whites... i'm sure i'm leaving some out. it is for that reason that i don't and can't condone having children in an interacial relationship. it broke my heart to see just how cruel kids were to my son and still can be cruel and i just wouldn't wish that on any child or parents. if i hadn't experienced it for myself, i wouldn't believe that people could be so cruel but they are & it's sad. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2005 2:20:45 AM | No offense to you kitty, but I imagine it's very difficult as a white woman raising a Black child (especially if you're doing it alone).
As I've gotten older, I've come to realize that the burden of raising an interracial child can often be greater if that child isn't of the same race as you. For example, in my experience with people of interracial backgrounds (in this case being Black & white), I always find that kids with Black mothers tend to be more "grounded", meaning they don't have so many questions about who they are and where they fit in society. The kids with white mothers that I've come across tend to not know exactly where they stand (i.e. whether they're Black or white, or have issues with "not being Black enough for Black people" and "not being white enough for white people"). I'm sure there are exceptions to this rule, but again this is just my opinion based on my experience. Whenever I come across a white woman raising an interracial chilid alone and having difficulties (especially when those difficulties are based on race), I often grow upset at the Black man that has brought about this situation. Not because he dated and procreated interracially, but because he has scarred another Black life.
I just wish people would give more thought to this aspect of interracial relationships BEFORE children come into the picture. So, my bottom line: it's not easy. | |
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Posted: 6/26/2005 11:01:28 AM | you're hittin' the nail on the head simpson... "I just wish people would give more thought to this aspect of interracial relationships BEFORE children come into the picture. So, my bottom line: it's not easy."
i couldn't agree more with you on that statement.
i can see exactly where you're coming from regarding parents who have mixed kids. a black woman having a child by a white man usually ends up with a child that resembles her in color so she probably doesn't experience the same thing as a white woman would when her child is young... where on the other hand... it's extremely obvious that i'm white and my son happens to be a beautiful shade of brown. kids, in particular, see that and the first thing they ask him is... "is that your mother?" that's just one example of the type of things we experienced together while he was growing up.
my son has always known where he stands, he knows his racial background and was very vocal in teaching other children when he was growing up. he was also given the opportunity to grow up in a very integrated household if you will so he's not black and he's not white in his mind. he considers every bit of his racial make up to be imporant. what my son and i had problems with during his formative years were the ignorant people who stereotyped him before getting to know him. or the perfect strangers that would make horrible comments to me about "what i had done". now that he's 17, we're past all that and it's made him a better person having experienced the hate early on in life. had i not dealt with things the way i did with him, the racial hate could have had a horrible affect on him and the outcome could have been detremental to him and his life. we all know what racial hate towards people does to people over the long term and it ain't pretty.
point is... just as you said simpsonfan... "I just wish people would give more thought to this aspect of interracial relationships BEFORE children come into the picture. So, my bottom line: it's not easy." | |
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Posted: 6/29/2005 4:30:33 PM | Just wanted 2 make a brief comment here regarding this statement,--->a black woman having a child by a white man usually ends up with a child that resembles her in color so she probably doesn't experience the same thing as a white woman would when her child is young...
I have a multi-racial son,he's quite a bit "lighter" than me,and people don't know if he's 1/2 white & blk,mexican or puerto-rican. I know white women who have 1/2 blk kids & their kids r darker than mine,not all but some,so it really has nutthin 2 do w/whether the parent is white,black,pink,blue,green or whatever,it's all in the gene's & that's something we can't control.I haven't had any problems w/raising my child regarding his skin-color or background,but I do notice how some will gravitate towards him because of his looks,I find that some people will say or do cruel thing's in general,whether ur child is mixed or not,try not 2 let it bother u & stay strong 4 ur child & so what if ur into interracial dating,so am I,does this make us "bad" people??? be happy w/who u r & who ur with & nutthin else should matter... | |
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Posted: 6/30/2005 6:55:32 AM | i guess what i should have said xoticdeeva is something more along the lines that young children don't quite understand how they can have one skin color and their parent(s) can have another, totally different skin color, as in my case. even when this all started happening with my son and he came home crying because some little girl called him the "n" word, he didn't know what it meant but it hurt his feelings and i he demanded to know what the word meant. i had to explain to him why she called him that, using the best age appropriate description i could come up with at the time... he was probably 3 when this happend. i basically just told him that there are some really mean people in this world that call black people the "n" word. i explained to him that the word shouldn't be used like that because it really means "stupid". he looked at me with his big, sad, tear filled eyes and he said to me... "but mommy i not black, i brown." i said yes, you're right, you are brown. he asked why he was brown and i explained to him like this... you're daddy is black and mommy is white and black and white makes brown. he said "mommy... you not white... you PINK!" he then went on to use the "n" word in the proper context to describe that little girl. as sad as it was, he understood from that point on that the "n" word was not appropriate vocabulary and he was not to use it, call anyone that name and if anyone called him that name he was to simply tell his teacher and i and we would speak to the child's parents.
interacial dating doesn't make anyone a "bad" person... society sucks and we know this and it can just make some lives unnecessarily difficult, especially the children. it's sad... | |
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Posted: 6/30/2005 3:55:24 PM | | Well I'm sure u know how cruel kids can be,sorry that ur son had 2 be called the "N" word,and I bet it is a word that's commonly used in the other childs household which is even sadder... | |
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Posted: 6/30/2005 8:19:32 PM | | it is sad... i'm just glad that i was raised better than that and was able to teach my son better as well. we are two less people in the world that use that word, let alone accept that behavior from others towards us. tolerance is a hard thing to teach children this day and age... i'm actually thankful i had to start so young with my son or maybe he would have turned out quite different. | |
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Posted: 6/30/2005 9:07:13 PM | I've always dated different ethnicity's,as I've also enjoyed learning about different cultures
This is the key to dating and more importantly the key to interracial dating. Learning,embracing,enjoying the various culture(s). I am of Seminole,Dominican,Tiano,Gullah African heritage.I've studied in Kingston,Jamaica,Veracruz,Mexico,Belize,Surinam and Honduras.Traveled to nearly 30 nations. I've found that at the end of the day people are people. The whole thing about interracial dating is more of a problem in the USA. It is veiwed more negativly when it envolves an AfricanAmerican and a white person,particualrly if that AfricanAmerican is a man. This is ALL due to the ignorace of racism and its institutionalized legacy. This is why I stress teaching people of their true culture and history is extremely important.
I've worked with children for over 20yrs. Before that I studied various issues concerning race in the US,including adoption. The biggest keys are always within the home,is the child loved,does the child have positive imagery,does the child have perspective and grasp on cultural heritage,does the child know what an AfricanAmerican is(mixed race person of African descent)in the case of mulitracial,biracial AfricanAmerican kids.Sometimes,parents allow their own negativity enter into the minds of children.This is most often true in the case of intolerence.
Is raising African American kids more difficult than raising white kids?....Only when the parents don't know the history(well BEFORE and BEYOND school) and culture to teach them. Those are things relatively easy to aquire if parents love their children(libraries are full of info).Outside of these issues,there is NO difference in experience of raising products of 2 white parents and an AfricanAmerican kid(mixed race of an African descent).
I've had to not only deal with kids being called the N word but know 1st hand what it is like being called it.Education is the key. | |
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Posted: 6/30/2005 9:12:17 PM | been there. Makes for wierd cook outs and misunderstandings..but it can be a lifeboat for others (both) ..if done right with "truth" whatever that is..my grandparents are against..it...(not enough in common and prejudice and struggles..still exist...) etc...
Its whatever..it hasn't worked out yet..anybody know any happy endings..I guess it can happen if both are yuppie? and devoted? God might frown..though.. | |
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| Interracial Dating....
Posted: 7/1/2005 6:49:16 AM | whether you're white, black, asian, hispanic or any other ethnic background you should be taught about other cultures... that much i will agree with you on marathon. but i don't agree that my son, in particular, is soley what you call "african american" because his father is black on his mother's side(and she's only half black herself) and american indian on the other side(which is where he gets his beautiful skin). calling a kid like mine "african american" because of his skin color is racial profiling or stereotyping, whatever you'd like to call it but it's incorrect if you consider his entire ethnic make-up. me being 100% "white" and his dad being 25% black, 25% white, and 50% american indian, that would make him pretty much a heinz 57 as my mom would say. and no that's not a derogetory term.
interracial dating is not only an issue in the US either... the old school japanese frown on it, those in saudi arabia frown on it, people in china are not keen on dating outside their race either... this happens all around the world... it's not just a matter of a black man dating a white woman that upsets people. as ignorant as it is for people to have this concern, the only way i can understand where they're coming from is to try to equate it to breeding dogs. laugh if you want but as someone who was raised around dog breeders, my mom was a breeder, and i've since done the same... you have to be very careful about the dogs you choose to breed and you can't purposefully breed a (in my case) boston terrier to a bulldog or any other breed than a boston terrier or you run the risk of breeding negative health traits into your dog's bloodline. this may not be the best example but it's the only one that holds any water in my mind because i understand why it's important not to mix breeds in the dog world. in the human world though... it works quite the opposite... a black man carrying the sickle cell trait who has a child with any other race, white comes to mind, automatically stamps that gene out of his bloodline by mixing "breeds" because sickle cell anemia is a gene defect found primarily amongst black men. no, that's not said in a negative tone either. that's exactly when "mixing breeds" would be a good thing if you're considering having children. sickle cell anemia is not something you want to pass through your blood line.
also... marathon... you're the father of how many "mixed" kids? you've personally raised, how many of your own, biological children that come from multi-cultural backgrounds? if you have children of your own and have raised them and they are considered what we know as "mixed", than you understand first hand, what it is to raise children from interracial backgrounds. working with children isn't the same as actually raising them... | |
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