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| | Bristol Palin, Advocate to Prevent Teen PregnancyPage 3 of 7 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7) | Does anyone besides me find the performance Bristol Palin, self-described "Advocate against teen pregnancy," the height of irony?
Someone please tell me why these people are so popular ins spite of such over-the-top inanity.
Yes, it seems like the height of irony for this unmarried teen mother to be an advocate against teen pregnancy. Ridiculous.
Question: Why anyone would pay attention to her or her mother? Answer: The masses are just not all the bright.  | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 4:22:31 AM | I don't think Bristol's choice of advocacy is all that "ironic."
Makes more sense than a 40yr old virgin doing it.
As a parallel, many substance abuse counselors are addicts/alcoholics themselves... that's not irony, that's just them putting their experience to positive use.
Why should Bristol be condemned for doing the same? | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 4:29:24 AM | Is she doing it because she cares about the subject and teens grtting pregnant?
Or is she doing it to possibly help her mothers chances of running for president? you know... great family values and all that.
I dont think it would suprise people if it was the second option.
cheers.
F.P. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 5:20:24 AM | don't think Bristol's choice of advocacy is all that "ironic."
Makes more sense than a 40yr old virgin doing it.
As a parallel, many substance abuse counselors are addicts/alcoholics themselves... that's not irony, that's just them putting their experience to positive use.
Why should Bristol be condemned for doing the same?
I disagree. A former addict who counsels abusers of drugs or alcohol will have experienced how the addiction destroyed his/her life. Bristol Palin's teen pregnancy did not destroy her life at all; infact, it seems to have enhanced it, making her a focal point for notoriety and getting her big fees as a speaker about teen pregnancy. What her situation tells girls is that if you get pregnant as an unmarried teen, look at all the attention you get!! Whoopee....!!
She is not a realistic example of what happens when teens get pregnant. She is not a good example of anything I'd want a teenage girl to aspire to or look up to or learn from. As a high school teacher, I'm around teenage girls all the time. No way in he££ would I want her to speak to my kids about the pitfalls of teen pregnancy. Bristol has not experienced what a typical teenage girl experiences if she becomes pregnant.
oh, and btw, the example of the 40 year old virgin is a ludicrous red herring.
Is she doing it because she cares about the subject and teens grtting pregnant?
Or is she doing it to possibly help her mothers chances of running for president? you know... great family values and all that.
I dont think it would suprise people if it was the second option She's doing it because she gets a lot of attention and big fees for speaking. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 5:55:30 AM | Bristol Palin's teen pregnancy did not destroy her life at all; infact, it seems to have enhanced it, making her a focal point for notoriety and getting her big fees as a speaker about teen pregnancy. What her situation tells girls is that if you get pregnant as an unmarried teen, look at all the attention you get!! Whoopee....!!
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She's doing it because she gets a lot of attention and big fees for speaking.
I didn't realize you knew her personally. I certainly appreciate you being able (and willing) to share with us what she has shared with you. I was merely forming an opinion based on my personal experiences in life and with other human beings. That can't come close to being as significant as your opinion since it is based on having a personal relationship with her.
Thanks for sharing! 
oh, and btw, the example of the 40 year old virgin is a ludicrous red herring.
Oh relax and lighten up. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 7:23:49 AM | Velma, I don't know about Salzburg kids, but in SoCal I think that a young woman with some TV exposure has a good chance of communicating with teens. It is what she communicates that is the problem. As Cotter says, she is a joke. She is not an example of and has not experienced what most teenager mothers experience. I am an American. I taught high school in the States. I lived in the States for 50 years and was a teacher there for 15 years. My opinion is based on having worked with many young women who were teenage, unmarried mothers. I taught in rural America and in a very large urban area in very low income school districts.
There is no teen pregnancy problem in Austria. Austrians are far more sensible about sexuality than Americans. They don't have this kind of problem, i.e., teen pregnancy.
I have no idea what your jibe about Oprah and Betty White is supposed to mean. Perhaps you could explain. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 7:27:32 AM | Bristol Palin is not a good example. I listened/watched her on Dr. Drew the other night, this experience has not set her back - she got on TV (more than once), she's got a book out and she still has a wealthy family that supports her. She didn't have to live on Kraft Dinner or rice to make it through the day, she had no problem finding medical care, she's not working at the Piggly Wiggly for $4.00 and hour to buy diapers and pay for daycare. She is once of the silver spoon children that has had a semi-setback.
And no, I don't know her, don't care to know her and can't stand her mother. We all have opinions.. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 7:40:59 AM | You forgot to mention one of the major issues that Pregnant teens face, public opinion...obviously she has to put up with intolerant unforgiving people judging her on a scale that most pregnant teens will never have to..Millions of people judge her...
Given that she can reach millions she is a great advocate to prevent teen pregnancy...all teens that think it is a good idea to get pregnant have to do is get on the internet and see the vitriol leveled against Bristol... | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 9:14:48 AM | You forgot to mention that maybe when things like this happen to the "perfect" people out there, there will be more snide comments made. It's like the preacher that is caught with his knickers down, having affairs, doing drugs or stealing money - the purer and better they profess themselves to be, the harder the fall and the more comments from us in the peanut gallery. Those of us in real life seem to have enough empathy and understanding when this happens to our family or the girl next door, we don't profess to be perfect to begin with. And really, shyte happens to all of us.
I would rather see the girl next door, the one that has no money, no healthcare, no family support, can't continue her education, lives on welfare or food stamps, has no nanny or daycare, can't get a job, etc. be the spokesperson for teen pregnancy. The silver spoon fed crowd doesn't know how tough it really is out in the real world. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 10:42:03 AM | I know full well when I was a teenager I would have been stupid enough to see Palin's pregnancy and then the money rolling in, as a way to structure my life so I could get all that fame & fortune. Kids are not usually very bright when it comes to risky behavior and what it really means when you have sex with some boy and have a baby and just how depressing, hard, and unstable that life will really be. It isn't so much what Palin did to her life, after all she has support and money, it's what she's doing to her child's life. He doesn't have much of a chance to not be damaged by all that is totally public about his ridiculous parents, and grandparents. More should be taught to teens about not just ruining their lives, but what happens to these babies they have in the middle of teenage angst.
No, as a kid, Bristol would only have confirmed for me that getting a guy and having a baby was a foolproof way to make it in life. I don't find her to be a good advocate at all. Not only that, but read and listen to her, she's a mess still. But I see that as an adult, it would have went right over my head as a kid, I would have thought she had it all, except for not getting to keep the guy. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 10:51:36 AM | I would rather see the girl next door, the one that has no money, no healthcare, no family support, can't continue her education, lives on welfare or food stamps, has no nanny or daycare, can't get a job, etc. be the spokesperson for teen pregnancy.
That would be great, except for one thing. Unless you are famous (or infamous, which may be apropo under the circumstances) most of the fickle people in society could care less about your opinion.
Bristol Palin is being raked over the coals because of who her mother is, no other reason. She is not her mother, but those people (the supposedly loving caring libs) hate her mother so bad that they will go after anyone in her family, including a baby with down's syndrome refuse to believe that.
The silver spoon fed crowd doesn't know how tough it really is out in the real world.
But the libs gobble it up when those silver spooners that are on their side open their big mouths. They have a right to an opinion, and have a right to advocate for things, but if someone from the right tries to do so....they need to STFU. | |
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| Bristol Palin, Advocate to Prevent Teen Pregnancy
Posted: 7/22/2011 11:04:50 AM |
Bristol Palin is being raked over the coals because of who her mother is, no other reason. She is not her mother, but those people (the supposedly loving caring libs) hate her mother so bad that they will go after anyone in her family, including a baby with down's syndrome refuse to believe that.
a lot of truth there..it's sad to see the hate lurking in so many people.
perhaps the green monster of envy as well-- becasue Sarah & her family have done fairly well financially, they are to be hated and denigrated.
odd how so many WOMEN hate /denigrate Sarah Palin, a "sister" who has done what the 'equality'libber' women suppsoedly want women to do, become chief executive of a state (governor) etc. and go for the brass ring of the White HOuse, tohugh she has (and will likely continue o ) fail at that.
ahh but I guess because Sarah will not become their lap-dog and say wah thtey want her to say they must hate her
even if you have to 'hate' the mother, why the daughter too?
visit the 'sins of the fathers' upon the offspring? | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 11:13:11 AM | hm, not sure why it is SO strange for a preganant teen to advocate against gettign pregnant..
Aren't some of the best & most effective anti-drug counsellors recovering or former addicts themselves? | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 11:16:22 AM | If they are going to use their "family" show to get noteriety and make money then they deserve it, thy even trotted out the kid with down syndrome to get sympathy votes.
Its all well managed.
Getting elected doesnt mean intelligence in many cases, it just shows the stupidness of some people in large groups. As someone said on here. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 11:54:06 AM | If her mother weren't "famous", Bristol would be just another stupid teenager that made dumb mistakes. She is no different than any other stupid teenager out there and it doesn't matter if she's a democrat or a republican or a member of the communist party. Because of her family circumstances, she still doesn't have a clue as to how to make it in the big world like an average/below average teenager does.
As for politicians, when you trot out the "perfect" family - complete with "look at me, I'm raising a disabled child", you open yourself up to higher standards and critical remarks. If this was one of Obama's daughters or Bill Clinton's daughter you bet the republicans and teabaggers would be all over this.
Bristol Palin is making money off of this, making money just for the fact she is a Palin and also because she is raising a child on her own - she doesn't seem to have any talent, has proven herself in any career path, she isn't even a good speaker - even the Hilton sisters have jobs. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 12:12:51 PM | Yes mate they do, you put yourself in the public spotlight, be prepared for all thay may come.
You know and the people know that the Palin "franchise" is well managed by them and handlers.
That dude above asked why Palin isnt a godess for women and womens libbers, i was attempting to answer. Ok Ron Jeremy? | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 12:19:22 PM | Puppy - Nice re-direct
Nope, no re-direct.
(see the words after the comma in the thread title, or read the OP, do the least bit of research to understand what is being advocated "to prevent…" and how well it worked for ol' Bristol).
but this thread is about Bristol Palin.
Nope (again)
And the specific bible-thumber birth control education she's advocating.
(which, …didn't work for Bristol Palin, or all those who were withheld a comprehensive sex education and birth control options).
I think that a young woman with some TV exposure has a good chance of communicating with teens. They don't know jack about politics, but they do watch TV.
Or maybe your kids would relate better to someone more mature, is that what you're saying? Oprah might have some time now, or how about Betty White?
Or better yet, how about restoring funding to a proven better approach to reducing teen pregnancy, get the f'ing failed theocratic teabagger taliban BS out of sex education? | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 12:31:11 PM | ^^^This is almost complete fabrication. The billboards with Obama's children were not put up by their parents. Sarah Palin has promoted her daughter (the subject of the thread) being a public figure. If she really wanted to, she could have kept the situation and her family life more private, but she has taken the opposite route.
GW Bush is the worst president the US ever had bar none. He is rated that way by historians. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 12:32:01 PM | I agree with one thing, fund sex education, give out free condoms, give out birth control information and birth control free, don't restrict adoption or abortion information and funding. We all know abstaining doesn't work, you know it, I know it and the 15 year old know it.
So what words of wisdom can Bristol Palin give - "yes, I'm a single teen mother just like you - no, I don't have to worry like you about daycare, I don't have to worry like you about feeding my child, I don't have to worry like you about healthcare for my child, I don't have to worry like you about a roof over my head, I don't have to worry like you about being kicked out of my home with no support from family, I don't have to worry like you about not continueing my education, but hey - I'm just like you"." What a f'ing crock.
Palin trotted out her family, put them on stage for all the world to see. She isn't the brightest bulb in the box but we all got to see and hear her - now we're not allowed to pass judgment. That's not how it works. We're all judged. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 12:32:37 PM | Bristol Palin didn't have any say in being thrust into the spotlight initially, but her actions since then have clearly been to capitalize on her celebrity status. How many teen moms get offered 200k plus to talk about abstinence? She went on Dancing With the Stars, for crying out loud - that's all about marginal celebrities trying desperately to get a bit of attention.
She has willingly put herself on display. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 12:57:27 PM | I don't know how much of a thinker Bristol Palin is, but her experience seems to give her credibility as a campaigner against teen pregnancy. Her mother is a natural political leader who is far more clever and competent than her detractors imagine. I hope they keep underestimating her, because it works to her advantage. She's just as intelligent, in her own way, as Michelle Bachmann, Ann Coulter, or S.E. Cupp.
the f'ing failed theocratic teabagger taliban BS
As a constitutional conservative who loves liberty, I always like to see such thoughtful, fair-minded analysis by people who don't share my views. | |
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| Bristol Palin, Advocate to Prevent Teen Pregnancy
Posted: 7/22/2011 1:57:53 PM |
This is almost complete fabrication. The billboards with Obama's children were not put up by their parents. Sarah Palin has promoted her daughter (the subject of the thread) being a public figure. If she really wanted to, she could have kept the situation and her family life more private, but she has taken the opposite route.
It isn't fabrication because it is the truth. But the differing fact that it was her parents that did the promoting still doesn't give people the right to give her (Bristol) the massive amount of shite they have. She may well fall flat on her face as an advocate of anything, but she should at least be given the chance to do so because of her own mistakes, not those of her parents. Like the Dancing with the Stars thing.....she supposedly couldn't dance either, yet came in third (I didn't watch it so I couldn't really tell ya!). I guess mommy arranged that too?
GW Bush is the worst president the US ever had bar none. He is rated that way by historians.
Yeah, probably by the the same ones who think Carter was just a whizz-bang leader. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 2:56:17 PM | Aren't some of the best & most effective anti-drug counsellors recovering or former addicts themselves?
So are you saying that Charlie Sheen would make a good drug counselor?
The bottom line is: Abstinence only education is an epic failure, regardless what twit is pushing it.
Ergo pushing abstinence only education makes you and idiot, regardless who your mom is.
I don't know how much of a thinker Bristol Palin is, but her experience seems to give her credibility as a campaigner against teen pregnancy....
Her only experience is in getting pregnant.
...Her mother is a natural political leader who is far more clever and competent than her detractors imagine....
I can only assume you have not bother to look at her political record.
...She's just as intelligent, in her own way, as Michelle Bachmann, Ann Coulter, or S.E. Cupp.
Intelligent in her own way = Smart enough to use their looks to cover up their incompetence. | |
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Posted: 7/22/2011 3:06:26 PM | It wouldn't take much to be smarter than Coulter or Palin. And no, I don't think all republican women are stupid, there are some bright ones out there, just not these two. And really, in this discussion it shouldn't matter what political party someone belongs to, teen pregnancy is rampant in both camps.
Thing is, it's hard to take advice from the poor little rich kid. Folks say the same sort of things about Paris Hilton, the Bush twins, Chelsea Clinton, etc. Folks in the public eye take a shyt kicking no matter what they do. Some just handle it better than others. Hell, look at the Kennedys and the crap they've been in, the good deeds they've done and the bashing from the general public - some deserved, some not.
Bristol Palin is not the poster child for teen pregnancy - not unless you're rich, white and in the political realm with no talent (as yet). Give her some experience, some education and who knows what she could do. But right now she doesn't deserve to be put on any pedestal. | |
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