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Posted: 4/22/2005 5:16:54 AM | it seems there are so many women out there
in between job's
wonder why?
how many times u hear this from some online dater, it seems women say, oh right now i'm in between job's lol
a man say the same thing and the women is out of there quick.
i think the original thread is great.good story but u might of gotten some after dinner who know's?
i bet this thought is what she was banking on for u to pay the bill. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 5:33:19 AM | i liked to her her side of the story.
send her a link to this thread | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 6:06:12 AM | I'M in between jobs right now, but I'm certainly not looking for a man to rely on to provide for me, or to be my meal ticket... I'm managing well enough on my own, thank you... and God willing, will have a job REAL soon, so I'll have less time to spend on here... lol If I go out on a date, I certainly offer to pay my share... right now I keep it simple, however... a nice chat over coffee, or a drink... and some companionship with someone who helps me forget for FIVE freakin minutes, about my troubles... that's all I'm asking.
I'D like to hear HER side of the story, too... instead of hearing so many people here ripping a strip up one side of her and down the other, and her not even knowing, let alone being able to defend herself.
It's IS nice to see that not everyone thinks this guy is a hero! There is hope for humanity after all. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 6:13:18 AM | Has anyone else noticed that there seems to be a split of opinion here that runs almost along gender lines? I'm not saying that all men agreed with this awful behaviour, but there is a definate break along that line. (That's not what my post is about, but I had to make that observation)
I went on a first date. I offered to buy him a drink (it was his birthday). He ordered food (I didn't) and then he stuck me with the entire bill.
According to this attitude I would be a gold digging b*tch just because I accepted a date with this man, and I deserved to get the bill in my face? According to the posts I read here... people think that what was done to the woman in this story was ok... "the nice guy got even"! So, this is what I can expect in the future? It seems that people who wrote those posts in favor of what was done think that it is ok to do this to women.
So now I have to be worried about if my date is looking for a way to screw me at the restaurant too!
If you insist on expecting every woman to be a gold digger then you will never be anything but lonely. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 6:19:56 AM | Keeping the step.....well the best way to beat gold diggers at their own game, is to do what he did.
"The con artist got conned" LOL! | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 6:27:38 AM | well, manlooking... if you do that to every women you have a first date with, then you will never have to worry about getting hooked up with a gold digger... you won't get together with anyone!
He had all the opportunity in the world to just say NO to what he suspected was going to happen... (he had no proof ). So, like I said...
the very best way to make sure that you don't get a gold digger is to treat every woman you date like this...you won't have any second dates to worry about either!! problem solved. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 6:33:11 AM | Keeping...so its kinda like "The chicken or the egg" thing...lol Round and round.
But I guess someone has to put a stop to it, before it even starts...but how many men, when sitting down, would actually put on the brakes, and say, "WOAH, 50 bucks for a hamburgur? I'm outta here" though, that would've been the right move, but some women know, that a guy wont do this, becuase for fear of them feeling "Cheap"
I mean, I don't know what restaurant he "saw" visually, I mean, if you didn't know what an Olive Garden was... you'd think its a fancy restaurant too. I have no idea what he saw.
If he said, "She picked a well reknowned, 5 star restaurant", then maybe he would've have seen what he was getting himself into, though he probably knew what he was getting into when he saw the high dollar shrimp scampi hehe
Some need to get over that fear though. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 6:45:28 AM | Man... I can understand that point of view. I have been told that men have real trouble with being able to talk about money issues with women.
But, when he saw the restuarant (he admits he knew it was expensive before going it)..he could have said "on a first date I prefer to just sit over a cup of coffee and see if we click...let's go to starbucks". He didn't say anything!! He doesn't have to admit that the price is more than he wants to pay... but, he does get to pick the place. There are many ways to handle this without going into revealing your financial situation. He didn't do any of them. !
Also, he ordered food too. He knew that he was going to do this to her BEFORE they went into this place... he ordered food JUST to run the bill up some more. He set out to do this terrible thing deliberately!
If you insist on viewing every woman as a gold digger.. then you make bad choices based on this belief... this leads to the story above. It can often be a self-fulfilling prophesy. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 7:05:09 AM | I don't think he was saying every woman is a gold digger, a lot arn't. But the ones that arnt wont be some broke joke walking you into a ritzy french restraunt.
I think its like the whole 50 dollar cheese burger thing, who'd ever expect that, who'd act like a cheap a** and walk right out then and there.
Just because THIS woman really really seems like a gold digger it shouldn't be offensive to you women who arn't. But for you who seem to be offended, Im sure you can all relate to this women's attempted con.
And the guys who agree with the gold digger's...What's up with that? Why you trying to score brownie points? | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 7:13:19 AM |
Has anyone else noticed that there seems to be a split of opinion here that runs almost along gender lines? I'm not saying that all men agreed with this awful behaviour, but there is a definate break along that line. (That's not what my post is about, but I had to make that observation)
I said the guy was an a-s-s from the beginning as did several men here. I can't understand why so many people these days make money such an issue. All they are doing is showing everyone else their petty nature and hopefully saving some poor woman from future heartache and monetary distress in doing so here.
He asked her out, he could have steered her somewhere other than the expensive restaurant but CHOSE not too and allowed the date continue with malice forethought in doing what he did. As I said before- he is an a-s-s regardless of the nobility or lack thereof in her intentions- period.................. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 7:14:53 AM | I love that word, "Self-fulfilling prophecy"! I learned it in one of my classes, and never forgot it, because that term explains so much.
I don't know if you saw the movie "Sneakers" the guy who tried to take over the worlds "Systems" with his "Codebreaking" box, said, "Okay, what if you told everyone the banks are failing?"
Response: "People would pull their money out of the banks, THUS, as a result, the banks fail (because of people pulling money out of the bank). Sometimes we don't even notice this.
Instinctually, it makes you even FEEL GOOD what you did to the person, and some people admit to it, "Way to go dude! You got her!" But that accomplished nothing. For one thing, you can't teach a person a lesson that way, they have to learn on their own...chances are she's a GOLD digger "set in her ways", you think him doing what he did "taught her a lesson"....nope. She can't see the light.
Hell, there are some women that admit to being gold diggers"Yeah, I know, and I can get away with it!" Some are even**** about it, "Yeah, I'm a gold digger"
"Yeah, I'm a **** and I'm proud" (though there's nothing proud about being a **** at all, you can't change her mind about it, so she'll stick to the manipulation. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 7:25:08 AM | Van,
It isn't my place to change her or change her mind.
Words such as karma, self respect, dignity and honor come to mind when I read this.
Her actions (if truely as described here which I question) show very little on her part, however no one will pull me down to their level merely because they are lacking in certain areas. I will maintain mine tyvm and in this case that would have been NOT leaving someone who I knew couldn't afford the bill which I had participated in creating by lying and sneaking out. the sneaking out in itself was the epitome of cowardess.
And guys wonder why women these days are so leary of us? Geesh........ | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 7:28:42 AM | "It isn't my place to change her or change her mind.
Words such as karma, self respect, dignity and honor come to mind when I read this.
Her actions (if truely as described here which I question) show very little on her part, however no one will pull me down to their level merely because they are lacking in certain areas. I will maintain mine tyvm and in this case that would have been NOT leaving someone who I knew couldn't afford the bill which I had participated in creating by lying and sneaking out. the sneaking out in itself was very cowardly on his part.
And guys wonder why women these days are so leary of us? Geesh........ "
Well, what you said is true, he was cowardly in doing what he did, I know I wouldn't have.
But you say, "And guys wonder why women these days are so leary of us.."
Well, it is not entirely limited to just women, it's people in general male and female alike, actually. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 7:28:48 AM | The OP's actions were reprehensible any way you slice it.
Fact - She paid, and never stated that she wasn't going to.
Fact - He knew he was going to bail, and did.
Fact - What he did was not only a breach of ettiquette, it was a criminal act
Fact - those that support the actions of the OP are basing this support on the suppositions and presumptions of a guy(I refuse to call this putz a "man"), who is admitting in his post, malice aforethought, deceit and a willingness to commit a crime....
......to "get even".
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Posted: 4/22/2005 7:31:44 AM | Like those who have seen his profile I agree that THIS guy seems like an a**.
But Im just thinking about what if it were me, what if I went on a date, and agreed to go into the restraunt that she knew and picked out and it kindof seemed expensive. I'd be going in to get to know her and what she's about. Then I see the prices and start to worry, then she order's a few glasses of super expensive merlot and a reallly pricey appetizer and continue's to tell me she's broke. Then she tops it off with a very pricey meal.Then she starts to pay no attention to me, only the food and drinks. I would feel used, and have 3 choices. I could go find the waiter and stop him before the food is made, be a chump and pay, or go outside and use the phone real quick and think of what to do... and end up rolling. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 7:48:02 AM | How bout ordering the Filet Mignon, and MASHING it in her face...yeah yeah! Okay, now that's getting a bit bizarre. lol
Your car payment is 50 bucks? | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 7:55:19 AM | Serial dater caught out
Police in Romania have caught a serial dater who invited women for romantic meals at expensive restaurants, then ran off, leaving them to pay the bill.
Police say good looking romeo, George Hodoroaba, 23, struck dozens of times in the town of Suceava in eastern Romania.
He was finally caught after restaurant owners were issued with a photofit image of his face.
Five women have so far come forward to officially register a complaint against Hodoroaba, who was well-dressed with expensive suits when he approached them in bars and clubs to invite them for a "romantic meal".
A police spokesman said: "He was always generous with the order, he would demand the best wines and told his female guest to have whatever she wanted.
"But in every case, he would say he had to make an important phone call and needed to go outside where reception was better, and then would simply vanish. In three cases, he even borrowed the girls phone to make the call - and disappeared with that as well."
Hodoroaba faces two years jail if convicted, and police believe the real number of victims is far larger than the complaints they have received, but say most women would probably be too embarrassed to come forward.
i am sorry but this is too funny.... its like hollywood movie funny... i picture things like cassanova in nike's... or maybe a gypsyesque person on that personal scooter thing from kannen...
i figured you all would enjoy this one. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 10:19:56 AM |
No, that says you also jump to conclusions. She didn't say he should pay the entire 180.00. She said he should pay her back. There's a big difference! And for what he did do, honestly he owes her that and then some, even legally that would apply! He made a verbal contract by agreeing and going along with the charade, and even ordering his own food, AND leaving her with the bill without discussion of who would pay. Then, he blatantly posted on a public board how he screwed her over. Yeah, that would go along really well in a court of law -- NOT!!
Well, I got home and my voice mail was inundated with her phone calls, the girl had to pay the bill which came to $180 dollars , and she did not have money and she said that I did not have class and that I should send her the money
First of all, I never said what he did was legal or even a nice thing to do, but the way he wrote it speaks volumes. He may not have known at the time that he was getting stuck with the bill, nor do we really know for sure without both sides of the story, but come on, if you were planning on paying your share would you really go there with no cash? As well the way he wrote it, which I can only infer that this is what she actually said on the machine, is that he should send her THE money, not his share, his part or his half of the money which is how most people would say it. I guess, though, it's all how you interpret what he wrote about what she said. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 11:12:28 AM | [QUOTE]
LATE, are you working on a law degree? you should.
You are absolutely correct!
What this guy did by ditching out of the restaurant is "against the law", "criminal behavior" and subject to court action. In addition to just plain "low life".
I would advise the girl to file in small claims court for starters. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 11:17:10 AM | Anita...countersuit: Charge woman with extortion!  | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 12:09:39 PM | Van,
There is no evidence of extortion. But the guy ran out on a tab. Get real, that is criminal behavior! There is no court of law that would let this slide with a chuckle.
Laughing about this kind of thing only encourages bad behavior by the way. That's the teacher coming out in me. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 12:11:56 PM | LATE, are you working on a law degree? you should.
No, .....I shouldn't (trust me).
Anybody with basic cognitive skills should be able to discern fact from supposition, the truth is, ....many here "like" the idea of revenge through entitlement, ....even if the victim is innocent (SHE PAID!).
Like others have stated, .....it's not the actions of an individual (who is clearly a reprobate) that's the only thing that's reprehensible in this thread.(I don't necessarily believe the "story" is true, it reads more like a fantasy IMHO.)
It's the "need" for people to believe that the perpetrator was "right", .....that's what I find disheartening.
The voracity some have for revenge:
....Even if the subject of the revenge(true or fictional), is by evidential circumstance, ...innocent.
....Even if the "pleasure" in the indulgence of the revenge is by nature, ....vicarious.
What a pathetic species we can be. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 12:15:52 PM | | good point. | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 12:33:31 PM | | I'm just bein' facetious, Anita Just playin....just playin'.......(Steps away slowly) | |
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Posted: 4/22/2005 12:35:23 PM | Late.. to quote there Terminator: "It is in our nature, to destroy ourselves."
May God have mercy on us for our sins | |
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