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 IgorFrankensteen
Joined: 6/29/2009
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"Before you go crying for the players, check out what the league minimum is for riding the bench...................."
It's not that the pay is low for them as compared to us peasants, it's that it's low relative to what they provide in return. In most competitive salary arenas, people are allowed to accept a better paying offer. Not so in the league, which is exempted from the normal rules of capitalist competitive rules. So you can't apply the normal logic to these folks.


Besides, if you are going to judge the players by THEIR income, you ought to at least be even about it...and judge the OWNERS by what THEY make on the players. If you did, you would have to also say you had no sympathy for THEM, either.
 MGMLION
Joined: 4/29/2008
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An 2011 NFL season is looking more and more grim.
Posted: 3/25/2011 3:51:19 PM

What's the argument about?


^^^^^^ The Billionaires against the Millionaires.
 Paul K
Joined: 3/10/2006
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An 2011 NFL season is looking more and more grim.
Posted: 3/25/2011 4:20:02 PM
Hey Igor

Back to the same argument that I always hear........ You know, the one based on the jealousy that is there, because of how much someone else makes.......

Are you aware that most of the NFL owners lose money on their teams? Any sympathy for that?

As far as judging players salaries, why in the world would you compare a players salary to an owners salary, IF he were lucky enough to be making money to be able to draw a salary from the team in the first place, when the owners have been competent enough to make enough money in their lives to be able to afford the purchase of the team in the first place? Besides pretending to go to school, and then going to the NFL, what have the players done to deserve the money they get?

As far as how much money the owners make on their players, will the players kick in some money for the owners that are losing money? Works both ways, or not at all.

Paul K
 HalftimeDad
Joined: 5/29/2005
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An 2011 NFL season is looking more and more grim.
Posted: 3/25/2011 4:41:09 PM
There was a news story recently that the NFL receives four billion in TV revenue. There are 32 teams. Payrolls range from 82 to 152 million.

Now with each team receiving 125 million from TV alone, these teams must be run by the world's worst businessmen to lose money on their teams. I have tremendous sympathy for them. Maybe we should all kick in for some remedial accountancy classes for these poor idiots.
 sum1reel
Joined: 6/5/2005
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Posted: 3/25/2011 9:11:15 PM
According to Forbes, 2 teams lost big in 2009 (i guess they don't have the latest figures in, but there have been some more losers in 2010); they are Miami, and detroit:

http://blogs.palmbeachpost.com/thedailydolphin/2010/08/26/forbes-miami-dolphins-1-of-2-nfl-teams-to-lose-money-in-2009/

The biggest winners were dallas ($140+ million) Redskins ($100 million) and NE ($66 million); the rest made more modest profits.

The point of "greed" lies with the small market owners who feel they ought to be making the same kinda profits as the bigger market teams.....but that is unrealistic. But the fact is that there are more small market teams than big market ones, and these owners carry the same weight as the big market owners. The NFL is over-expanded, as there is no need to have put teams in places like Tampa bay (when they rarely get a sell-out enuff to lift the local black-out), jacksonville, etc.

The players are also unrealistic because they wanna keep a cut of the pie (profits) but they don't wanna be responsible for any losses when their teams go in the red!

Sit tight because the real super-bowl will be played on april 6th, to be held in a court room.....standing room only!.......the judge will be controlling the board!
 Jake52177
Joined: 12/18/2007
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An 2011 NFL season is looking more and more grim.
Posted: 4/13/2011 4:36:32 PM
Number of games missed due to NFL lock-out. Zero. Not seeing or hearing from Mel Kiper. priceless.
 4rumninja
Joined: 11/30/2009
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An 2011 NFL season is looking more and more grim.
Posted: 4/15/2011 9:30:06 AM
I for one will not miss it all...
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