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 daspecimen
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Yeah. Ronda is no joke
 Timmahh88
Joined: 2/8/2012
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Posted: 3/4/2012 4:52:26 AM
It was full on! it was a massively entertaining fight. One of the first MMA events I've watched since Reem vs Lesnar - watching that pissed me off enough.

Still waiting to watch Dos Santos beat the crap out of Reem and GSP get his belt back.
 dwayne88
Joined: 6/8/2008
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Posted: 3/4/2012 6:14:50 PM
^^^GSP still has his belt.

Condit is just the interm belt holder.

Also, Rousey is a beast.

If you don't tap, you will pay. .....................................................................
 Timmahh88
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Posted: 3/4/2012 7:11:42 PM
He sort of does, still Condit beat Diaz for the interm belt. I wanted to see GSP flog him up.
Rousey nearly snapped her arm off lol!
 cracklinrose
Joined: 2/5/2012
Msg: 155
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Posted: 3/5/2012 4:21:21 AM
Omg!! She should have tapped.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHm9XjjbXIg&fb_source=message
 UFC_fan_Andy
Joined: 3/9/2012
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Posted: 3/12/2012 12:28:14 PM
Just curious how Wanderlei is arrogant? I have never heard anyone say something bad about him , I met him and plenty of others around my city when they come and no one has been better than him. I hate seeing him lose more than anybody because he is my favourite fighter.
 LMLoy
Joined: 1/25/2012
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Posted: 3/16/2012 10:48:15 AM
I feel the same way. Boxing used to be my favorite sport, but now it barely registers a blip on my radar screen, since MMA came along. I went to UFC 139 in San Jose. Overall it was pretty great. Especially the Silva vs Le fight. What a war.
 PatrickSheehan57
Joined: 3/25/2012
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Posted: 3/29/2012 9:02:48 PM
I think the whole sport is weird and operates more like a cult than a sport. Honestly I've heard more strange things happening from this sport than any other. There's stuff going around like the mother of the actual president of the company saying her son had blackmailed his own sister in law into sleeping with him. As a requirement the ring girls have to have sex with the president. On their forums the mods go around banning people and censoring anyone who brings it up.

There was some outrage a while ago that the actual MMA forums were secretly installing viruses on their users computer so they could monitor their activity and track their users. The UFC encourages their hardcore fans to act like cultists and shut down anyone who says anything bad against them. When ESPN criticized their horrible wages they went on a rampage claiming ESPN was part of a conspiracy against them. On their forums anything negative against the UFC gets shut down. Their were threads on the forums paying respect to an MMA fighter who died during sparring in 2011 and the mods kept shutting the threads down and banning people.

The UFC even encourage their fans to make fake accounts on select websites, posing as interested fans. The idea is to keep a main super thread on every important site which their slave like fans will keep bumping to make the UFC seem like people are interested. Some leaked emails from the president of the UFC show he encouraged fans making fake accounts on websites like this one to spread their memes around.

http://middleeasy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2436:in-2006-dana-white-approved-of-people-posing-as-fans-and-leaking-videos-to-message-boards&catid=34:organizations

I tried to get into the sport for a bit but the culture is one of constant paranoia. Their hardcore fans are creepy and obsessive. They act more like Gestapo than sport's fans. It reminds me of the creepy obsessed culture those WWE fans used to have where "WWE IS MY LIFE"
 LukeT77
Joined: 1/12/2009
Msg: 159
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Posted: 4/3/2012 1:03:32 AM
Jason, I think you can really take away whatever you choose to from any sport.

I am a pretty big UFC fan, but I've never set up any fake accounts, etc. Not to say it isn't happening out there, just that I can easily choose not to concern myself with any of that nonsense - just concentrate on enjoying the sport itself.

I don't know if all these rumours about the UFC President are accurate, or just tabloid sensationalism. A lot of public figures out there become the victim of fluff stories. Maybe there is an element of truth in there, but I don't think I'd want to give up on a sport I love on the basis of hearsay.

Sports like Boxing and Football are both regularly associated with scandal and corruption, but that doesn't stop them being two of the most popular sports in the world.

There are scary hardcore fans for most sports - in fact, you can pretty much pick anything in life to become obsessive about if you're so inclined (even Star Trek!), but that shouldn't put the rest of us off watching.

I attended a UFC Fan Expo in London a couple of years back, and the fans there were all perfectly civilised and amicable.
 dwayne88
Joined: 6/8/2008
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Posted: 4/7/2012 1:00:52 PM
Who will fight JDS once Reem is eventually pulled from the fight?

Dana has said that Mir/Cain is still on, even tho Mir seems like the right option to fill the spot.

Werdum? Bigfoot is coming off of being KO'ed.

Hunt? His best win is Kongo, and it would look pretty crazy if they fought and somehow he won when considering his record.

Dan Henderson has said he is open to the fight.

I really don't think Dan should do that consider he will most likely be KO'ed for the first time if he does it. But his balls are so big, he'd fight anyone.
 kenpoboy
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Posted: 4/7/2012 3:46:51 PM
No idea. Mir is the logical choice, although I guess one could make a case for Werdum. I don't see either of them beating JDS, though.
 TVolkert
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Posted: 4/9/2012 2:42:57 AM
It 100% sure should be Frank Mir. Dana White has stated that the Mir/Cain fight will go on as planned, but if they don't use Mir, I don't know who they go with. Hendo has stated that he wouldn't mind the fight, but I would much rather see him at 205/185 fighting for the title. There's a movement to get Mark Hunt the title shot, but IMO, that would be a joke.

If they don't do Mir, I honestly have no idea who they go with, but he's the logical choice. If Cain had maybe lost a close fight to JDS, you could make a case, but he got KO'd in rather quick fashion.
 statemachine500
Joined: 8/25/2011
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Posted: 4/11/2012 7:04:38 PM
Followed boxing for many years.Don King and Riddick Bowe ruined it.Still love to see PacMan fight.Just about all UFC now.

As for "real fighting"?As in your life is on the line?My deceased ex father-in-law,a jump trained commando in WWII,faced a number of desperate situations,either when all ammo was gone on the eastern front,or in hellish secret POW camps.A large pair of hands and just plain dirty fighting.Eyes,throat, testicles.In whatever order they present themselves.
 cracklinrose
Joined: 2/5/2012
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Posted: 4/21/2012 5:50:56 PM
So looking forward to tonight's fights. I'm hoping Rashad and Jon have a good fight. Jones is a great fighter. I'm watching the preliminary fights right now. Njokuani has some long legs! But, I favor Makdessi.
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 4/22/2012 1:26:45 AM
Rashed seemed to play it safe with Jones and not take a lot of chances. Rashads best chance at beating Jones would have been to take it to him even it's at the risk of getting knocked out, because as we saw circling around the cage for 4 1/2 rounds with Jones and not taking a lot of risk isn't going to beat him. I mean when Rashad took a couple risk in the first round it paid off esp when he threw that leg kick to Jones head that rattled Jones a bit, but that was one at of the very few real risk he took against Jones and for the rest of the match he was playing it safe as if he was waiting for the right punch or opening instead of continuing to take it to Jones like he did a a few times in the first round. Jones doesn't make very many mistakes and for that it was a mistake on Rashads end to try to find those mistakes insted of continuing to take a risk and take it to him like he did in the first round. I think if Rashad would have taken more risk like he did with that leg kick, the match might have turned out diff or at least a hell of a lot closer on the score card if it would have made it that far to the judge's.
 LukeT77
Joined: 1/12/2009
Msg: 166
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Posted: 4/23/2012 8:29:02 AM
^^^

Agreed. I think the reach advantage, plus those nasty elbows, were enough to undermine Evan's confidence and keep him on the backfoot for most of the fight.

Both Evans and Machida could have potentially beaten Jones in their fights (both of them seemed to take him out of his comfort zone at times). Machida was managing to move in and out of Jones's range, through his guard and land blows, Evans was able to get into exchanges with Jones and land a few combos and biggish blows (that headkick might have set up a finish if he could have followed up more effectively).

Unfortunately for them, Jones just seems to be a very difficult opponent to figure out. His reach, unorthodox techniques, and creative/unpredictable changes of strategy just seem to confound his opponents. He also seems deceptively strong and able to handle himself very well in clinches and grappling - he threw Ryan Bader about like a ragdoll, and that choke on Machida was brutal!).

The rumours are that Dan Henderson may be his next opponent. If that fight happens, then it'll be a heck of a challenge for Henderson, he'll probably need to land one of his H-bombs to win, as he probably won't fare well in a 5-round, toe-to-toe war.
 1womanman33
Joined: 3/25/2012
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Posted: 4/23/2012 1:32:35 PM

I think the whole sport is weird and operates more like a cult than a sport. Honestly I've heard more strange things happening from this sport than any other. There's stuff going around like the mother of the actual president of the company saying her son had blackmailed his own sister in law into sleeping with him. As a requirement the ring girls have to have sex with the president. On their forums the mods go around banning people and censoring anyone who brings it up.

There was some outrage a while ago that the actual MMA forums were secretly installing viruses on their users computer so they could monitor their activity and track their users. The UFC encourages their hardcore fans to act like cultists and shut down anyone who says anything bad against them. When ESPN criticized their horrible wages they went on a rampage claiming ESPN was part of a conspiracy against them. On their forums anything negative against the UFC gets shut down. Their were threads on the forums paying respect to an MMA fighter who died during sparring in 2011 and the mods kept shutting the threads down and banning people.

The UFC even encourage their fans to make fake accounts on select websites, posing as interested fans. The idea is to keep a main super thread on every important site which their slave like fans will keep bumping to make the UFC seem like people are interested. Some leaked emails from the president of the UFC show he encouraged fans making fake accounts on websites like this one to spread their memes around.

http://middleeasy.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2436:in-2006-dana-white-approved-of-people-posing-as-fans-and-leaking-videos-to-message-boards&catid=34:organizations

I tried to get into the sport for a bit but the culture is one of constant paranoia. Their hardcore fans are creepy and obsessive. They act more like Gestapo than sport's fans. It reminds me of the creepy obsessed culture those WWE fans used to have where "WWE IS MY LIFE"


Ironically, I've always said that Dana White's promotion is pretty similar to the way wrestling promoters do business. They hype things up, then step back and let the marks of their sport spout all kinds of sound and fury (i.e. boxing sucks, MMA/UFC is better), promote every PPV as 'the best ever', but most of all, marginalize any other promotion that exists...competitor or not. He's been able to make the UFC synonymous with MMA while keeping his talent criminally underpaid. I appreciate the styles and the clashing of those styles in fights, but most 'fans' are knuckle-dragging simps who just want to see someone get their head knocked off. MMA is slowly moving away from that in terms of the old skill-less model that existed when it first began to a legitimate sport and it will be interesting to see if the cerebral element turns some fans away.

I say that because I watched Carlos Condit out work Spic Diaz in that fight to win the interim belt and ppl actually BELIEVED Diaz won because...he LOOKED more aggressive. Nevermind that Condit landed more throughout the fight, he wasn't raging after Diaz, so he should've lost. Heard the same thing about Lyoto Machida, Michael Bisping, even GSP. The idiot fan who couldn't appreciate the science of boxing jumped into MMA hoping to see glorified street fighting. Now, with all of the training and martial art styles having such an influx and the days of Tank Abbott going, going, gone, you're hearing the same types of complaints again. Knew it was only a matter of time.
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 4/23/2012 4:24:15 PM
Yeah def luke, you don't want to get in a range war with Jones, not with his reach. I notice with guys long reach like that the best method is to close their distance instead of trying to work around it, by trying to persue them and trying to close as much their reach as possible. I learnt that the hard way when i kicked box against guys with long ranges. lol. I noticed the times when Rashad did that, Jones wasn't able to throw his long range punches or kicks, it was only when Rashad started backing up and playing it safe is when Jones was able to use his long range punches and kicks to go after Rashad.

I'll give it to Rashad he went the distance against Jones. Not many so far have done that.
 LukeT77
Joined: 1/12/2009
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Posted: 5/9/2012 2:08:51 AM
Damn it!!! >:-(

They just postponed an MMA fan expo weekend event in Birmingham (UK) I was all set to attend. It's been pushed back to October now! Lots of amazing guest fighters were lined up too.

Bit gutted about that. Of well, roll on October I suppose....
 bigeazzie
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Posted: 5/9/2012 7:26:36 AM
It's not real fighting my friend. You want to see real fighting, come and bounce with me at the worst bar in Flint M.I., and I will show you real fighting. If I had a dollar for everyone of these idiot douche bags that came into my bar and thought that it was the octagon, only to get knocked the **** out by me or my bouncer cohorts, I would not have to work anymore.
 dwayne88
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Posted: 5/9/2012 8:46:40 AM

It's not real fighting my friend. You want to see real fighting, come and bounce with me at the worst bar in Flint M.I., and I will show you real fighting. If I had a dollar for everyone of these idiot douche bags that came into my bar and thought that it was the octagon, only to get knocked the **** out by me or my bouncer cohorts, I would not have to work anymore


That is because those guys at the bar are dumb drunks that have no clue how to fight.

An actual trained mixed martial artist would beat down every bouncer in town with ease.
 LukeT77
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Posted: 5/9/2012 3:30:20 PM

That is because those guys at the bar are dumb drunks that have no clue how to fight.

An actual trained mixed martial artist would beat down every bouncer in town with ease.


Hahaha! Totally with you on that one. I have a lot of respect for Bouncers and the conditions they have to deal with, but a drunken brawler is a far cry from a highly-trained and conditioned athlete.
 statemachine500
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Posted: 5/9/2012 5:45:07 PM
Real fighters don't look for fights in bars.
 SteelCity1981
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Posted: 5/11/2012 7:04:19 AM
unlesss it's all out mayhem where objects are invovled and people are throwing chairs and hitting each other over the head with beer bottles and such then most certainly any trained mma fighter could kick ass in a straight up bar fight.

The guys that you are discribing in bars are no more then MMA wannabe's. They sit there and watch the UFC and think that if they watch it long enough they too are an MMA fighter just like the the fighters they see on TV like an bunch of armchair QB's. lol

So no, comparing those types of people to actual real MMA fighters is like comparing night and day.
 dwayne88
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Posted: 5/13/2012 9:03:13 AM
Nick Diaz is the most disrespectful person in combat sports.

Last night he was suppose to have a super fight no-gi BJJ match with Braulio Estima, but he no-showed the event.

The fool claims the promoter was shady about the weight and money. But then again, he always has an excuse for acting like an idiot.
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