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 sabrina
Joined: 7/29/2005
Msg: 26
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right on, i totally agree with the above post.
 DoctorKinseyPhD
Joined: 5/13/2005
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Posted: 8/2/2005 8:41:30 AM
NO! Men are lying scum and degenerates. Don't you read enough of these threads? How could a Man love someone so much younger than himself, for example. A Woman can love a younger man because she is female and thats okay she's the 'touchy feely' gender. But, a Man, oh he's just a perv.. when he says the words..
 Gremmy
Joined: 5/28/2005
Msg: 28
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Posted: 8/2/2005 8:51:20 AM
I will only say those three words if I truely mean them. When I do say those three words I also back it up with action so that the words are not empty. I am leary of those who would say those three words to fast or soon.
 Ticketoride
Joined: 6/3/2004
Msg: 29
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Posted: 8/2/2005 3:41:00 PM
WHAT DO U THINK THAT IT MEANS WHEN YOUR WITH SOMEONE AND U TELL THEM THAT U LOVE THEM AND THEY TELL U THAT THEY FEEL THE SAME WAY BUT YET THE WORDS "I LOVE YOU" DONT COME OUT THERE MOUTH AND THEY TELL U THAT THEY'RE NOT READY TO SAY IT. DO THEY REALLY MEAN IT WHEN THEY SAY THEY DO LOVE YOU?

'Love' is synonymous with 'Commitment'.
How could the former exist without the latter?
 crystalise
Joined: 6/11/2005
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Posted: 8/2/2005 8:01:28 PM
In the start of the thread. the poster actually says that the guys has already told her, he is not ready to say the words

Theres your answer. He doesnt know if he loves you yet.

Then if you are asking if he means it should he say it later after that, ie I love you, does he mean it [ ??]. It depends, he could end up saying just because you push him for it...or leave him to it and if he says it on his own in his own time then yes I would think he means it

Also however I agree with watch what he does, even more than what he says. Thats how you tell if anyone loves you. Actions speak louder than words in my books. But yes its nice to hear now and then. It should be a complement to the relationship, but not mandatory !!
 Huisatcheman
Joined: 7/31/2005
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Posted: 8/2/2005 8:36:40 PM
hmmm, in here, words are all we have,,,,a shame. But that's the way it is. Words are suspect in a medium like this. They mean nothing. For a few perhaps, they mean everything, but the proof of such things as adoration require committment and meeting, something I would never do. My committment is already made.
 Red Danube
Joined: 8/3/2005
Msg: 32
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Posted: 8/3/2005 5:03:17 AM
if they cant say it then they cant mean it

 aradienne
Joined: 12/31/2004
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Posted: 8/3/2005 5:08:51 AM
Gremmy, I'm leery too of people who say those words too often...like people who end every phone conversation with the rote words "I love you". It's almost like they're trying to convince themself or someone else that it's true. I agree that actions speak way louder than words and when your words become automatic or just expected, they lose meaning.
 crystalise
Joined: 6/11/2005
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Posted: 8/3/2005 5:45:10 AM
^^^^ hear hear
 Phat Pat
Joined: 5/31/2004
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Posted: 8/3/2005 8:19:25 AM
The words "I love you" have bitter sweet meaning for me. I have been told "I love you" before, only to have that same girl cheat on me a week later. I have heard someone say it to me only to be used as amunition in verbal disputes later. I have heard it used far too loosely and given too freely for it to mean much to me now. I've loved and expressed my love, but it is hard for me to say or hear it. I just question the meaning these words have for the one saying it and their intentions. I hate that I fear the words, but my past has left me with scares and it will take a long, caring and selfless relationship before comfort in saying it will return to me.
 victoriangirl
Joined: 6/21/2007
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Posted: 8/31/2007 2:38:02 PM
ok, resurrecting an old thread here, because I'm wondering. He treats me well, enjoys my companionship, and seems to want to spend time with me. But I'm not so good at reading non-verbal communication, so I'm looking for some definite specific clues here. We've been together over a year now. I have very strong feelings for him, but am careful not to let myself get carried away because he has never told me that he loves me, and I don't want to play the fool.

So really, how can you tell? Are there some specific things I can look for? Words are my best form of communication and in their absence I'm pretty clueless. But obviously I do NOT want him to tell me he loves me, if he doesn't. I want honesty, but I just wish I knew.

Otherwise I don't know if I should still be keeping one foot on the floor, so to speak, and expecting him to call it quits at some point, or if it's safe to relax and start to trust him to be there for me if I needed him to be.

Kinda lost here. Suggestions?
 mark_61701
Joined: 8/16/2007
Msg: 37
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Posted: 9/1/2007 11:24:34 AM
I am the one who often said I love you to my wife, and she would reply I love you
too, but the words did not resonate as real or true, they were monotone if that makes
sense? I am not afraid to express my inner feelings at all. I also believe that action
speaks louder than words. In the 5 years I was with her, she said I love you first, about
4 times. But then her cold hearted actions of emotional withdrawel and constant
controlling etc etc, gave me mixed signals. I finally left as she told me back in Feb.07
that she did not care wheather I stayed or left, she was not responsible for my happiness. She had a female friend that moved in with her before I moved out, they
would cuddle under a blanket and giggle to each other and both of them would treat me
as the out cast. I tried my best to talk about it but she is stubborn! It took all I had
inside to leave and file for divorce, which now she refuses to sign. When I say those
3 words, I mean it and back it up with action.
 victoriangirl
Joined: 6/21/2007
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Posted: 9/2/2007 4:38:57 PM
Well I think it's really wonderful that so many people are not afraid to tell the object of their affection of their love, but really, if a person is more reserved than that, and is not the sort to verbalize it, HOW can you tell if someone loves you?

I realize that everyone is different, and would display those feelings somewhat differently, but there must be some universality to the general set of clues to look for.

Anyone? Please?
 chelsea_hou
Joined: 5/26/2007
Msg: 39
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Posted: 9/2/2007 4:43:45 PM
Whats worse is when they say I know. And you really didn't even love them in the first place just thought you'd say something nice. And of course you were drinking
 positivenergies
Joined: 7/3/2007
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Posted: 9/2/2007 6:18:29 PM
IMO, loving someone is a decision we make. We decide to accept them, even their shortcomings or what we might perceive as "flaws". We want them to be happy, with or without us. We decide to treat them with respect and kindness. With that, i can honestly say...I love you all.

I think, what you really want to know is, is this person willing to make some sort of commitment to me.
 Realist59
Joined: 8/24/2006
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Posted: 9/2/2007 6:26:41 PM
I think loving a person goes beyond making "some sort" of commitment. I think it means being prepared to make a life-long monogamous commitment. Anything short of that is just a whole bunch of other wonderful emotions, but I don't think they are the same as real love.
 .Marc
Joined: 2/11/2007
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Posted: 9/2/2007 6:38:22 PM
If he has indicated that he isn't ready to say it you probably shouldn't put him in a position where he feels like he has to say it. That way you'll know when it's genuine.
 EligibleRespelled
Joined: 5/4/2007
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Posted: 9/3/2007 1:18:59 PM

Kinda lost here. Suggestions?

Love:
A Scientific Etymology: [Old English lufu=love, Old High German luba=love, Sanskrit lubh=desire, Latin libet, lubet=it is pleasing, Greek liptesthai=be eager, Icelandic lypta=lift, raise , Latin levis=light, Icelandic lopt=air, Old English lyft=the air, Latin levare=lighten, lift, raise] All these words have in common to uplift as with one’s load, including the words for air, which may originally have been abbreviated from a phrase like “raised (elevated) area”. “To uplift”, then is surely where love comes from, and so, what it’s getting at.

An Objective Definition: “For this is the love of the Potentate {i}, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.” 1 Iaun{ii} 5:3

A More Brief And General Explanation of These Commandments, Which ARE What Love Is: “Therefore all things whatsoever you {iii} would that men should do unto you, do you even so unto them. For this is the law and the prophets.” Mat. 7:12 This equation I refer to as the recipe of love. When naming as the two greatest commandments, love of the creator, and of your neighbor as yourself, our master says, “On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets. {iv}” Mat. 22: 40 And Paul says, “All the law is fulfilled in one word,…You shall love your neighbor as yourself.” Gal.5:14

A Logical Conclusion: To know what will uplift someone, simply consider what would make you feel uplifted {v}, and then turn it around on ‘em, and pull it on them.

A Solemn Warning: “Whosoever hates his brother is a murderer: …” 1 Iaun 3:15 Therefore hate seems to be as serious an offense as murder. Now there is evidence to suggest that hate is the opposite of love, such as, “…he that is not against us is on our part.” Mr. 9:40 Behavior therefore, which is inconsistent with the aforementioned recipe of love, would qualify as hateful and therefore qualifies to be considered murderous as well.
A Simple Self-Assurance Test (as it is written, “Examine yourselves, whether you be in the faith; prove your own selves.” 2Cor.13:5 ): “By this we know that we love the children of the potentate, when we love the potentate, and keep his commandments.”, 1Iaun 5:2 (see first four paragraphs above, i.e. ¶s 1-4)
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i King Iames (which name was revised in 1680 to read James) uses the word God, an inadvisable choice, here. (see page 4, footnote 10, and Ex.23:13)
ii King Iacob version was revised in 1680 (hereafter referred to as 1680 RKJV) to the spelling, John, along with the rest of the words spelled with a J, but the names of Hebrews are herein retained from the original King Iacob.
iii KJV uses ye.
iv Ion unites these first and second of all commandments, saying, “And this commandment we have from him, that he who loves the Potentate love his brother also…” 1 Ion 4:21
v If it be considered misleading, this idea that we are always to make others feel uplifted consider this example: While sprinting down a forest path, Steve is tackled by his mute uncle, and several fingers and teeth are broken in the fall, which causes Steve to become so enraged, that he clobbers his uncle over the head, knocking him unconscious, and walks back to the path, weeping for pain and holding his newly deformed teeth, but he doesn’t get two steps farther down his path, before encountering a huge bluff, which he would certainly have fallen off of, had it not been for the interruption of his loving uncle. He never realized so well, before this moment, how that sometimes, love can be crippling, defacing, and horribly painful. He had been uplifted, you see, by however many hundred feet above the rocky canyon below, he was standing, all the while thinking that he had been hatefully cast down. Such is the uplifting of one who converts a sinner from the error of his ways, at times…Now go back to the prophet, that treated you like that mute uncle of Steve’s, and pick him up, and dust him off, and clear yourself.
 Artistee
Joined: 7/24/2006
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Posted: 9/3/2007 1:50:49 PM
(pulling petals from a daisy) "I'm loved....I'm loved not....I'm loved....I'm loved not....I'm destroying a perfectly good flower with my own selfish insights...I'm loved....I'm loved not..."
 victoriangirl
Joined: 6/21/2007
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Posted: 9/4/2007 2:06:14 PM
EligibleRespelled. Do you even read what you write, or do you just go find some bible passage or something and copy and paste it in, in response to whatever topic has captured your attention for the moment?

I find for the most part that you not only do not answer the question being asked, but you also start spouting this complicated, King James sounding rhetoric, that is just frustrating to read, and plain annoying.

I actually did attempt to read the first few posts of yours that I came across, but once having recognized this pattern of preaching a bunch of nonsensical, unrelated bunk, I have decided that whenever you post something now, I will simply skip it.

I don't know if others feel that way, but if you are posting in the hope of actually contributing to the conversation, or in the hope of converting some of us to whatever it is you're peddling, then I just need you to know that you have completely defeated your purpose with me.

Whether or not you care is not relevant. I just wanted you to know how I feel. Which after all IS the topic of conversation here (as you obviously didn't know that).
 leggomyeggo
Joined: 8/11/2007
Msg: 46
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Posted: 9/4/2007 2:11:09 PM
I prefer to have someone treat me like they love me rather than say it. Actions speak much louder than words. Some people want to be in love so badly that they think simply saying it is enough...it's not.

 EligibleRespelled
Joined: 5/4/2007
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Posted: 9/4/2007 3:11:10 PM

EligibleRespelled. Do you even read what you write, or do you just go find some bible passage or something and copy and paste it in, in response to whatever topic has captured your attention for the moment?

Betty,
This excerpt above, of a letter i was asked to write to a man in minnesota 7 or 8 years ago, was something i spent about 6 months of my life composing. This was a good example for you to blow up about because anyone who loves prophesy enough to not get irritated at it's messages and reads this post above will understand that it is the ultimate answer to the question that you posed, which is as follows:


if a person is more reserved than that, and is not the sort to verbalize it, HOW can you tell if someone loves you?

I realize that everyone is different, and would display those feelings somewhat differently, but there must be some universality to the general set of clues to look for.


If you had bothered to read it, and particularly footnote # 5 you would have saved yourself this embarrassment.
The reactions that most people give me to footnote 5 is 'Did you really compose that yourself',
i feel like addressing the rest of your complaint, but i'll give u space to verify your phuck-up and apologize before i continue.
 victoriangirl
Joined: 6/21/2007
Msg: 48
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Posted: 9/4/2007 5:16:14 PM
I fail to see how the story of someone being prevented from falling over a cliff has to do with the question which was, how do you tell if someone really loves you, if they are the sort who is not very verbal about such things. I already explained that I do not read between the lines, so to speak, and must have the words in order to understand, and therefore was asking for some universal clues to whether a person feels ROMANTIC love for you.

Now if this guy and his uncle is a demonstration of romantic love, then I have certainly misjudged you, as I felt for sure you were a bible-thumper, but if you are into homosexual incest, then I apologize for my mistake. (and feel sorry for you).

So back to the point about reading what you are supposedly putting your two bits worth in about, I will ask again for those people who actually have something relevant to add to the conversation.

I need concrete criteria for being able to tell if someone is ROMANTICALLY in love with you, as I do not read body language. And if he won't say it, then how will I ever know? All I want to know is whether or not I should be able to relax and trust his feelings, or still be prepared for him to say goodbye at any given moment.
 EligibleRespelled
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Posted: 9/4/2007 5:56:53 PM

some universal clues to whether a person feels ROMANTIC love for you.

Now if this guy and his uncle is a demonstration of romantic love, then I have certainly misjudged you, as I felt for sure you were a bible-thumper, but if you are into homosexual incest, then I apologize for my mistake. (and feel sorry for you).


Oh, Oh, Oh i get it, i get it. You're just interested in if you give him a hard on - well i can help you there too - it's the rise in his levis. No extra charge. Did you ever wish you hadn't brought something up?
 brandish
Joined: 7/29/2007
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Posted: 9/4/2007 6:55:43 PM
"I love you" is really just about you, it has nothing to do with the other person?! Being loving towards another is "Love to you". Drop the "I" and see what happens. Hope this helps.
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