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Posted: 7/1/2008 9:14:28 PM |
A sociopath cares what people SAY about them when they leave the room, but a whole person cares how people FEEL when they leave the room.
If someone cares what people say about them this makes them unwhole somehow?
I would have thought such a thing as "what others think or say" would be meaningless to a sociopath and a tool of behavior modification for "normal" people. | |
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Posted: 7/1/2008 11:56:10 PM | No, you've hit precisely upon my intended meaning. They don't care about the people at all, just how what's said about them affects their plans and such...
My point was not that they care what was said, but that they can't even conceive of how the person/people FEEL. Their sole metric is whether things that make them look good or things that make them look bad are said.
Which would be, of course, the point of the whole first 60% of the post... No fair taking something that was supposed to just be an illustrative anecdote as the entire meaning or the core message. ;-) | |
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Posted: 7/2/2008 7:53:20 AM | | lol...yer a smart guy...who said life was fair? | |
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Posted: 7/2/2008 5:03:02 PM | | Desertrhino you seem to have a good ahdle on the sociopath. And they are indeed more pervasive than we might think. But, I still hold that the best course is to run from them, as most of us are no match for their ability to manipulate others. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2008 5:25:21 PM | | I agree with the last comment. Even if you love them and want to believe what they are saying is true it probably is not. Sociopaths will manipulate to satisfy their own needs at all cost. It may seem like they are doing things to help and be kind, but their inner workings and motives are far more intricate. The difficulty with them is that you have to sift through everything they say in order to find out any truth and who seriously has to time to do that. Your best bet is to run or if it's a family member and you really want to help then DBT therapy would be good. They have to retrain their minds to understand right from wrong and build a whole new framework for relationships and social interaction. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2008 5:31:56 PM | The right wing of the Republican Party is full of sociopaths, led by Bushboy and (unprintable)Cheney. They have a long history of sociopathic behavior: Newt Gingrich served divorce papers to his wife when she was dying of cancer. Talk about disgustingly inhumane!! No decent human being would do this!!! Tom DeLay, Trent Lott, Larry Craig--need I say more???!!!
On a personal level, a relative has had sociopathic tendencies. He was a constant bully to his sister when she was growing up, stole things from her, and even bought her a Christmas present only to ask for it back! He still treats her like an insignificant object, and it really hurts her to this day. | |
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Posted: 7/2/2008 6:26:03 PM | Back in my early 30's, I had a year long relationship with someone that I know had some type of personality disorder, and I strongly suspect he was also a sociopath. He also had some type of sexual dysfunction that I can't label, but he had almost no ability to control his urges.
He might be sitting at a red light and see someone attractive, and would start masturbating right there.
He would call me up and attempt to tell me about it, and would begin masturbating while telling me. Umm...I was his girlfriend!
He was quite emotionally abusive, sending the message that I was so unattractive and such a poor "catch" that no one would ever want me, but him. Eventually, I began to believe him.
He did things for me to hold over my head and keep me in line. I was a single mom and didn't have much money. Anything that needed fixing, he fixed, with the goal of keeping me indebted to him. Over and over again, even without my stating the need. This indebtedness allowed him to conduct himself as tho he were still in my life when we'd break up. He would show up in the wee hours of the morning demanding sex and acted as if it was perfectly normal behavior. The first time, I believed it was an attempt to reconcile...until the next morning when I found the quarter he'd laid on my nightstand, on top of the phone.
When we were together, if he'd stay at my house overnight, he would swing back and forth between ravishing me sexually, or completely denying me. He'd take a shower the next morning and would masturbate in my shower, with me right there, getting ready for work and looking really nice.
He also had OCD and would actually sit and pluck (with his fingers) the hairs from his mustache until they were gone. I learned quickly to never clean around his apartment because he would blast me to hell and back for not doing it correctly, which of course meant from the baseboards up to the ceiling, religiously...daily. I couldn't drink anything because he would constantly swab underneath the glass to prevent a ring from forming.
We had many endings, but nothing at all like the day he stated we could finally be together for good if only I'd give my son away.
I thought for the longest time that I'd never survive him and it took me a few years, but I did finally heal. I still have real trouble with NOT hanging my washcloth just so, the way he demanded I do it, and with bikini's, because of the way he just devastated me with his comments about the way I looked ( I was small and thin, but shapely, and I looked just fine)...while parading me around at the pool for others to lust over. I've never worn one since and never will. And I still can't look at the burner plates on a stove (underneath the coils) without recalling the torture he put me through over cleaning them. Some things are just too hard to forget. | |
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Posted: 7/12/2008 9:42:49 PM | | There is some good information on Lovefraud.com as well. | |
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