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What isn't working exactly? From the outside for all the BS calls of socialism what exactly has Obama done? Pass a stimulus package to prop up the economy, well, that's kinda what you're meant to do. Hunt and kill terrorists, yup. Come for your guns, nope. Half the shit he's gotten up to guys like you would be applauding if you weren't so busy barracking for the GOP like it was a sports team.
Which case would you prefer....
1 - a bunch of conspiracy worried people constantly on the look out for any form of authoritarian or totalitarian act (such as disarm the population)
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2 - to realize after it happened that they would always eventually be right?
You are hearing the wrong message. The calls against socialism are real. It has been occuring for years. The concerns about communist infiltration isn't a made up fantasy. There really are global super powers that are communist and humans have always had political power struggles with opposing forms of government. Those opposing governments do not have the United States as their priority. Only the US has the US as its priority. This is totally normal and how the world works. The United States is the first successful attempt at a new form of republican democracy and it worked. Just because it worked isn't a reason to throw it out because you have it too good. It worked while we needed rapid growth and now we are at a point where growth is complicated. That doesn't mean we need to trash the entire system.
Any chance you can point to a position that Obama has that praises the country? There may be some but at this moment I can't think of one. Everything is about how wrong its been and should be fixed.
And still... where is it the job of the president to 'create jobs'?
I have seen praises that Obama administration has spent less then any other president in history... in new spending. That is just ignorance to how it works. Unless he removed all the spending from predecessors even spending one additional dollar means he has spent more than all previous. IF you look at it as a % it becomes increasingly difficult to grow that percentage when your actual number is higher than all prior spending in past history combined. Also, since republican sides of the house say 'no' to just about everything than of course it will look like he is spending less. Because it isn't his money to spend!
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/30/2012 1:59:58 PM |
Any chance you can point to a position that Obama has that praises the country? So universal health care and wanting to even out the tax based back to a level it was during prosperous times for all is not in the best interest of the majority of the countries citizens?
You are hearing the wrong message. The calls against socialism are real. It has been occuring for years. The concerns about communist infiltration isn't a made up fantasy. There really are global super powers that are communist and humans have always had political power struggles with opposing forms of government. Those opposing governments do not have the United States as their priority. Only the US has the US as its priority. This is totally normal and how the world works. The United States is the first successful attempt at a new form of republican democracy and it worked. Just because it worked isn't a reason to throw it out because you have it too good. It worked while we needed rapid growth and now we are at a point where growth is complicated. That doesn't mean we need to trash the entire system. You are confusing socialistic policies that where the key and pillars to what you have today and communism.
Though you may want to re-post that on Glen Beck blog as that bit of delusion would be right up his alley.
...The United States is the first successful attempt at a new form of republican democracy and it worked. Just because it worked isn't a reason to throw it out because you have it too good. It worked while we needed rapid growth and now we are at a point where growth is complicated. That doesn't mean we need to trash the entire system. A new form of republican democracy, how was that different from the old forms that are as old as the 5th century?
We do not have a king. No but you have some wing nuts on the Tee Vee telling people that Obama thinks he is a King and there are a select few dimwits that actually believe it. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/30/2012 3:54:46 PM |
So universal health care and wanting to even out the tax based back to a level it was during prosperous times for all is not in the best interest of the majority of the countries citizens?
You are obviously not american. It means that one person, one group of rulers does not get to determine what is in your best interest.
You are confusing socialistic policies that where the key and pillars to what you have today and communism.
Though you may want to re-post that on Glen Beck blog as that bit of delusion would be right up his alley.
No, you are conflating what we have today as being the result of socialism and communism. That is not the case. We have never been socialist nor communist. Despite your wishing to portray it that way. We are not little Europe.
No but you have some wing nuts on the Tee Vee telling people that Obama thinks he is a King and there are a select few dimwits that actually believe it
You have obviously confused the attempts to pass Obamacare, which is not universal healthcare, with job creation and the acts and responsibilities of a United States President. They are outside the normal job duties. The president can assert his opinion and even write the policy but it is outside the scope of normal responsibilities. Being stupid and saying wing nuts and tee vee and dimwits is just irrelevant character attack without basis, provocation and is obviously not in support of the United States as a successful nation. If something is not is support of the nation and divides it then you would call it what... Anti-American? | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/30/2012 4:18:08 PM |
You are obviously not american. It means that one person, one group of rulers does not get to determine what is in your best interest. So you are saying the Founding Fathers where a bunch of douche bags who wanted to determine what was is in everyone's best interest?
No, you are conflating what we have today as being the result of socialism and communism. That is not the case. We have never been socialist nor communist. Despite your wishing to portray it that way. We are not little Europe. They are the result of polices that have roots in Socialism and to equate them to Communism and the big red bogyman coming to steal your money speaks of a complete and total misunderstanding of what makes America great.
Being stupid and saying wing nuts and tee vee and dimwits is just irrelevant character attack without basis,.. It is very much with basis, these people claim that Obama acts like a king and wants to take over America so he can rule it like a communist dictator, deserve to be called the wing nuts that they are.
...provocation and is obviously not in support of the United States as a successful nation. If something is not is support of the nation and divides it then you would call it what... Anti-American? Did you need to use a chalk board to come up with that 1 + 1 = 3 claim? | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/30/2012 5:28:18 PM |
So you are saying the Founding Fathers where a bunch of douche bags who wanted to determine what was is in everyone's best interest?
Those were your words and took what I said out of context to turn it into a character assassination. So, you have no real argument.
They are the result of polices that have roots in Socialism and to equate them to Communism and the big red bogyman coming to steal your money speaks of a complete and total misunderstanding of what makes America great. So, when I said that these things have been around for a long time and you got all snippy and disagreed now you agree. Do you not know how to defend a position? We are not a socialist country and most people do not want us to become one. That is not what made this country Great as you yourself said it was.
It is very much with basis, these people claim that Obama acts like a king and wants to take over America so he can rule it like a communist dictator, deserve to be called the wing nuts that they are. So what? You are going to take the fringe of a political group and espouse that there rhetoric applies to every single person that doesn't agree with you? I guess that would make you a communist then. Since you don't agree with me that must mean your are the extreme version of your political spectrum. Or does logic only work selectively with you?
Did you need to use a chalk board to come up with that 1 + 1 = 3 claim? And not one argument against the statement. Cool. You must agree. "if something is not in support of the nation and divides it then you would call it what... Anti-American?"
Thanks for playing along. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/30/2012 7:27:03 PM |
You are going to take the fringe of a political group
That fringe group has been wagging the dog for sometime now. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/30/2012 8:32:10 PM |
That fringe group has been wagging the dog for sometime now.
And who/what is this dog that is so meekly being wagged? | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 12:27:45 AM | No you are not Europe, but you are basically displaced Europeans who picked and chose a bit from here and there to make your system of government and have finally discovered its not as great a system as you thought it was. There have been other republics, Roman, Greek, French. British empire, which although has a monarch, works better than the American system. Little Europe lol. bagging your own kind now... sad.
Wow... Is this really that easy... "Bagging your own kind" So, you took my words, twisted them into a caricature then used it as a character attack for the purpose of 'us vs them' mentality. My own kind? wtf does that mean? Are you some 'other kind'?
Following your logic everyone is displaced Africans but you were only thinking about yourself. So you really have no point other than to denigrate. Not once did I infer that there was a discovery that the American system wasn't as great as thought that was your own misleading addition. There has not been a successful government like the United States. It is the first of its kind. China and the European Union fit that as well. Or is there a problem comprehending the success of 'super power nations' and unions?
I never inferred it is the only way ... you really seem to think that 'your way' is the only way which is not only sad but also intolerant, separatist, adversarial, and moronically backwards and archaic. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 2:00:42 AM | | He's a failure to uphold the Constitution, and is only a puppet. Bilderberg and UN and Banks run everything. He constantly uses executive orders and ignores congress and uses the United Nations to overide them. There is alot of things people should know. No matter if its Romney or Obama, we are basically screwed and will be heading into a global socialist government. Ron Paul would be the only choice to uphold and restore our constitution and America. The last real president we had was JFK. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 5:37:16 AM |
and have finally discovered its not as great a system as you thought it was Not at all, the reason there are issues now is because people like Obama have decided that our system isn't good and is trying to transform it..it is a great system based on great principles when people started amending and what not based on the political winds of the day that's when it started falling apart... | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 6:52:32 AM | On another note looks like another one of Obama's "successes" may not be quite the success he and his administration would have us believe..the Auto bailout besides not paying back Billions GM stock is now down about 40%... So you have Stimulus no positive effect on unemployment rate, Obamacare didn't lower premium prices and is over a Trillion dollars more costly than what he sold it as, now the Bailout may also be a failure...not to mention all the Solyndras ....hard to see how anyone can say he is not a failure all he has accomplished is passing far left liberal policies in the regard he is a success to like minded individuals but to America he is a Failure...
Before you all whine and cry about how bad it would have been if he hadn't done anything ( there is no way to know how bad it would have been or how good if he had done nothing) and how he allegedly inherited this or that..he inherited nothing he asked for the job selling America on the concept that he had the answer to solve the issues we were facing..Obviously he does not 4 more years of him will just give him more time to negatively transform America and to dig a Deeper hole... | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 7:19:51 AM |
Before you all whine and cry about how bad it would have been if he hadn't done anything .. Then why are you whining and crying about it? | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 8:17:18 AM |
And who/what is this dog that is so meekly being wagged?
The republican party...and it's not meek wagging. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 8:43:05 AM | Obama has an alternate view of success, and maybe that's why some people take issue. In Obama's world, if you borrow a zillion dollars and distribute those dollars to your pals, pet projects, and people who don't work, THAT is success. If you are the guy who MADE a zillion dollars, you are a bad person, and should be vilified. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 8:51:11 AM |
In Obama's world, if you borrow a zillion dollars and distribute those dollars to your pals, pet projects, and people who don't work, THAT is success. ...and this is different from the Bush family and their connections to Halliburton how?
..If you are the guy who MADE a zillion dollars, you are a bad person, and should be vilified. No, but you should at-least pay the same tax rate as everyone else.
Or do you think they should get a pass because they made a zillion dollars? | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 9:06:19 AM |
The republican party...and it's not meek wagging.
And do you always refer to groups of people as dogs? Or do you reserve that for your special friends and don't try to tell me you mean dawg.
This is who you are referring to... http://www.gallup.com/poll/152021/conservatives-remain-largest-ideological-group.aspx
If you pull your head out of the sand for a few seconds... maybe wait for your ears to clear out and your eyes to adjust to daylight...
PRINCETON, NJ -- Political ideology in the U.S. held steady in 2011, with 40% of Americans continuing to describe their views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This marks the third straight year that conservatives have outnumbered moderates, after more than a decade in which moderates mainly tied or outnumbered conservatives
Since the only thing you have ever argued for is liberal policies that puts you at the tail. Are you trying to get your wag on?
And here you are saying that new conservative party that only came as an opposition to the liberals is the one doing the wagging. Or do you just know better than the other 70% of the country. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 9:32:58 AM | Doesnt matter. All that matters in this hard reality is that they are NOT liberal.
Since you name call & dismiss everything non-liberal, it really doesnt matter whether they are moderates, fiscal conservatives or modern bat droppings crazy neocons. Its your intolerant racist dismissive whitewashing of them all that causes you to see everyone else who is non-liberal as "fascists". | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 9:47:15 AM |
No, but you should at-least pay the same tax rate as everyone else. WHY? Hypothetically,if dude makes 10,000,000 a year and pays 15% he pays $1,5000,000 in a year,,you make $60,000,000 a year and pay 25% you pay $15,000..so he pays 100 times what you pay, for what? roads bridges government etc..he doesn't use anymore than you and yet he pays 100 times what you pay..Problem with Liberals is that they can't do math they just deal with their concept of "Fair" ...
They don't get a pass as usual Liberals are deceptive in their narrative..dude makes 10,00,000 a year he pays Income tax, tax on interest, tax on dividends,Capital gains tax,corporate tax rates etc..besides you have millions who pay zero or negative tax so when you factor that in the actual rate paid by the "Rich" is higher than the overall rate paid by the average American...
So despite all the BS being spewed by Obama and his fans the Rich really don't pay a lower rate than the average working American... | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 9:59:34 AM |
WHY? Hypothetically,if dude makes 10,000,000 a year and pays 15% he pays $1,5000,000 in a year,,you make $60,000,000 a year and pay 25% you pay $15,000..so he pays 100 times what you pay, for what? roads bridges government etc..he doesn't use anymore than you and yet he pays 100 times what you pay..Problem with Liberals is that they can't do math they just deal with their concept of "Fair" ... To make your statement and then follow it up with a statement about people that can not do math is pure comedy gold.
If you think that the amount of tax you pay should only be based on what you pay and not a % of what you earn, you really have no concept of what is fair.
They don't get a pass as usual Liberals are deceptive in their narrative..dude makes 10,00,000 a year he pays Income tax, tax on interest, tax on dividends,Capital gains tax,corporate tax rates etc..besides you have millions who pay zero or negative tax so when you factor that in the actual rate paid by the "Rich" is higher than the overall rate paid by the average American... You really do not have a clue to you.
So despite all the BS being spewed by Obama and his fans the Rich really don't pay a lower rate than the average working American... Proof that the Fox news mantra works.
Repeat the lie enough times and eventually people will believe it.
As your statement is complete bullshit. The average American pays a much higher % of their income in taxes than the average billionaire. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 12:44:23 PM |
Proof that the Fox news mantra works.
Repeat the lie enough times and eventually people will believe it.
You just did... | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 2:50:51 PM |
And do you always refer to groups of people as dogs?
My you do live an uninformed and cloistered life if you've never heard the "tail wagging the dog"...but, looking at your posting I can see that...well, you seem to be. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 3:13:22 PM |
My you do live an uninformed and cloistered life if you've never heard the "tail wagging the dog"...but, looking at your posting I can see that...well, you seem to be.
I have heard of it. It is just the amount of derogatory comments and remarks is just astounding. Every single comment is some form of attack.
The only time it isn't an attack is if you ... well no... you never agree either. always negative. always argumentative. always confrontational.
Not one of the points made were factually refuted. Just pounce with claws out. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 3:25:22 PM | Not one of the points made were factually refuted. Just pounce with claws out.
ROFLMAO...pot meet kettle...apparently you never read what you write.
And who/what is this dog that is so meekly being wagged?
We all know the teaparty and Grosvenor Norqiust wags the repulican party. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 7/31/2012 6:50:31 PM |
We all know the teaparty and Grosvenor Norqiust wags the repulican party.
And who wags the democrat party? | |
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