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Not true... no one is perfect and Obama has certainly made a few mistakes. The GOP faithful will NEVER admit that anyone from their party ever made a mistake.
As for soldiers dying under this president, did you expect Obama to be able to withdraw the military from the illegal war in Iraq the moment he took office? During his campaign, he promised to go after Bin Laden... and he did... NOW, we can bring the troops home from Afghanistan as well. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 12/27/2011 7:07:32 PM | | Calling someone a failure for making choices that you don't agree with is nothing more than a thinking error. He might be failing to do what you want him to do... but that's about it. Those who are honest with themselves and others are able to identify both successes and failures by an opposing political party. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 12/29/2011 4:31:25 AM | I agree with the above poster...In the case of Obama he is a failure because the plans he has implemented have not worked the way he has stated that they would work...Therefore his plans have failed....
Please cite some examples of how his plans have worked as promised.. Two of his major plans did not do what he promised..First Stimulus did not create millions of jobs...Obamacare is driving up the cost of Health Insurance instead of making it more affordable and it hasn't even been fully implemented..and it has cost thousands of jobs...
Foreign policy..Our image in the world has gotten worse with our allies and hasn't improved with others.... | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 12/29/2011 7:57:58 AM |
Two of his major plans did not do what he promised..First Stimulus did not create millions of jobs
Here you go.
A report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office shows the Recovery Act has increased the number of workers by between 1.2 million and 2.8 million. The CBO also projects that 3.7 million jobs could be attributed to the stimulus by the end of September.
The $787 billion measure included several tax cuts, including one for $400 ($800 per working couple) that showed up in workers' paychecks. It also created Build America Bonds, expanded unemployment insurance and funded several domestic spending programs.
Here is a link to the story. http://thehill.com/blogs/on-the-money/801-economy/99915-cbo-finds-stimulus-bill-boosted-job-growth
Here is a link to the CBO report.
http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/117xx/doc11706/08-24-ARRA.pdf
Care to back up this statement?
Obamacare is driving up the cost of Health Insurance instead of making it more affordable and it hasn't even been fully implemented..and it has cost thousands of jobs...
This is what I found.
The United States Congressional Budget Office recently released estimates highlighting that any repeal of the health care reform bill will add approximately $230 billion to the deficit, which is at $1.4 trillion.
Read more: http://digitaljournal.com/article/302259#ixzz1hwJjy6VT | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 12/29/2011 10:54:15 AM | Yeah, the stimulus clearly did work. It's just sort of an article of faith on the right to believe that it didn't.
His health care reform isn't great, but it's better than what was there before. It's not driving up the cost of health insurance - that's another thing that you have to believe despite what the facts are.
But I'm really, really surprised that anyone can claim that his foreign policy has caused, "Our image in the world has gotten worse with our allies and hasn't improved with others." I live in one of those allied nations. You know how much Bush was hated in your country? Doesn't even come close to how much he was hated everywhere else. Your foreign policy was run by an idiot, advised by lunatics. Given a choice between backing American policy under Bush or al Qaeda, it isn't surprising that bin Laden was protected by Pakistan. As a citizen of your closest ally, I'm really glad there's a grown up in the White House. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 12/29/2011 11:59:58 PM | HTD, what irks me is the right wingers who totally IGNORE the obstruction by the GOP at all levels to prevent anything from Obama from succeeding. They pretend the man exists in a vacuum, and pretend they haven't blocked any and all attempts by the president and the Dems to get things moving, blocked his appointees, refused to vote for bills they put forth and supported, until the President offered to sign them. Pure obstructionism for political gain.
The GOP would rather let people starve in the streets and end up homeless rather than help the economy and the citizens in the US, if they have a chance to blame Obama for it.
It's traitorous, is what it is. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 12/30/2011 4:21:05 AM |
The GOP would rather let people starve in the streets and end up homeless rather than help the economy and the citizens in the US, if they have a chance to blame Obama for it.
It's traitorous, is what it is Wow..according to most of you left wingers the Right are the fearmongers..obviously you have been projecting...
You guys live in denial...have you noticed that all of the historical markers for a good economy have been changed since Obama has taken office.8% unemployment is now supposed to be acceptable, 1.5% GDP now not so bad, 370,000 new UE claims not so bad...
The GOP does not want people to starve and homeless, they want Obama to face reality and realize that his ideologically driven agenda is not helping America...
Why are we supposed to accept the it was worse than we knew excuse, he allegedly appointed the best and most qualified, they should know the actual state of things that is their JOB..He needs to quit making excuses for failing and change his approach... Increasing the deficit and extending ue benefits every two or three months isn't helping the Economy it is just digging a deeper hole...
A report by the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office shows the Recovery Act has increased the number of workers by between 1.2 million and 2.8 million. The CBO also projects that 3.7 million jobs could be attributed to the stimulus by the end of September. Just read the report you are quoting it is an estimate that was written in June of 2010...obviously they were wrong.... | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 12/30/2011 6:41:51 AM |
Just read the report you are quoting it is an estimate that was written in June of 2010...obviously they were wrong....
How is it obvious they were wrong? Are you going to just make stuff up or are you going to give me some proof?
Here is a link to some more recent reports from the CBO.
From the 3rd qaurter of 2010.
CBO’s Estimates of ARRA’s Impact on Employment and Economic Output Looking at recorded spending to date along with estimates of the other effects of ARRA on spending and revenues, CBO has estimated the law’s impact on employment and economic output using evidence about the effects of previous similar policies and drawing on various mathematical models that represent the workings of the economy. Because those sources indicate a wide range of possible effects, CBO provides high and low estimates of the likely impact, aiming to encompass most economists’ views about the effects of different policies. On that basis, CBO estimates that ARRA’s policies had the following effects in the fourth quarter of calendar year 2010: •They raised real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product by between 1.1 percent and 3.5 percent, •Lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.7 percentage points and 1.9 percentage points, •Increased the number of people employed by between 1.3 million and 3.5 million, and •Increased the number of full-time-equivalent (FTE) jobs by 1.8 million to 5.0 million compared with what would have occurred otherwise. (Increases in FTE jobs include shifts from part-time to full-time work or overtime and are thus generally larger than increases in the number of employed workers). The effects of ARRA on output peaked in the first half of 2010 and are now diminishing, CBO estimates. The effects of ARRA on employment and unemployment are estimated to lag slightly behind the effects on output; they are expected to wane gradually beginning in the fourth quarter. CBO projects that the number of FTE jobs resulting from ARRA will drop sharply during 2011—from between 1.7 million and 4.7 million in the first quarter to less than half that number in the fourth quarter (between 0.8 million and 2.5 million). During 2012, CBO estimates that the impact on employment and economic output of ARRA will be small.
http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=1852
From the 2nd quarter of 2011.
CBO’s Estimates of ARRA’s Impact on Employment and Economic Output Looking at recorded spending to date along with estimates of the other effects of ARRA on spending and revenues, CBO has estimated the law’s impact on employment and economic output using evidence about the effects of previous similar policies and drawing on various mathematical models that represent the workings of the economy. Because those sources indicate a wide range of possible effects, CBO provides high and low estimates of the likely impact, aiming to encompass most economists’ views about the effects of different policies. On that basis, CBO estimates that ARRA’s policies had the following effects in the second quarter of calendar year 2011 compared with what would have occurred otherwise: •They raised real (inflation-adjusted) gross domestic product by between 0.8 percent and 2.5 percent, •Lowered the unemployment rate by between 0.5 percentage points and 1.6 percentage points, •Increased the number of people employed by between 1.0 million and 2.9 million, and •Increased the number of full-time-equivalent (FTE) jobs by 1.4 million to 4.0 million compared with what would have occurred otherwise. (Increases in FTE jobs include shifts from part-time to full-time work or overtime and are thus generally larger than increases in the number of employed workers). The effects of ARRA on output peaked in the first half of 2010 and have since diminished, CBO estimates. The effect of ARRA on employment and unemployment are estimated to lag slightly behind the effects on output; CBO estimates that the employment effects began to wane at the end of 2010 and continued to do so in the second quarter of 2011. Still, CBO estimates that, compared with what would have occurred otherwise, ARRA will raise real GDP in 2012 by between 0.3 percent and 0.8 percent and will increase the number of people employed in 2012 by between 0.4 million and 1.1 million. CBO’s current estimates reflect small revisions to its earlier projections of the timing and magnitude of changes to federal revenues and spending under ARRA. CBO now estimates that ARRA will increase budget deficits over the 2009–2019 period by $825 billion, slightly less than what we estimated in our May report. By CBO’s estimate, close to half of that total impact occurred in fiscal year 2010, and about 85 percent of ARRA’s budgetary impact was realized by the end of June 2011.
http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=2651
Now again, please show me your proof they were obviously wrong. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 12/30/2011 6:23:08 PM |
Obama is an utter failure. Sure maybe so, but he did get to Mars.
Mars visitors Basiago and Stillings confirm Barack Obama traveled to Mars
By Alfred Lambremont Webre, JD, MEd
Two former participants in the CIA’s Mars visitation program of the early 1980’s have confirmed that U.S. President Barack H. Obama was enrolled in their Mars training class in 1980 and was among the young Americans from the program who they later encountered on the Martian surface after reaching Mars via “jump room.”
Andrew D. Basiago, 50, a lawyer in Washington State who served in DARPA’s time travel program Project Pegasus in the 1970’s, and fellow chrononaut William B. Stillings, 44, who was tapped by the Mars program for his technical genius, have publicly confirmed that Obama was enrolled in their Mars training class in 1980 and that each later encountered Obama during visits to rudimentary U.S. facilities on Mars that took place from 1981 to 1983.
Their astonishing revelations provide a new dimension to the controversy surrounding President Obama’s background and pose the possibility that it is an elaborate ruse to conceal Obama’s participation as a young man in the U.S. secret space program.
Mars training class held for future Mars visitors
According to Mr. Basiago and Mr. Stillings, in Summer 1980 they attended a three-week factual seminar about Mars to prepare them for trips that were then later taken to Mars via teleportation. The course was taught by remote viewing pioneer Major Ed Dames, who was then serving as a scientific and technical intelligence officer for the U.S. Army. It was held at The College of the Siskiyous, a small college near Mt. Shasta in California.
They state that ten teenagers were enrolled in the Mars training program. In addition to Basiago and Stillings, two of the eight other teenagers in Major Dames’ class that they can identify today were Barack Obama, who was then using the name “Barry Soetoro,” and Regina Dugan, who Mr. Obama appointed the 19th director and first female director of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency (DARPA) in 2009...
As many as seven parents of the ten students, all with ties to the CIA, audited the class. They included Raymond F. Basiago, an engineer for The Ralph M. Parsons Company who was the chief technical liaison between Parsons and the CIA on Tesla-based teleportation; Thomas Stillings, an operations analyst for the Lockheed Corporation who had served with the Office of Naval Intelligence; and Mr. Obama’s mother, Stanley Ann Dunham, who carried out assignments for the CIA in Kenya and Indonesia.
From 1981 to 1983, the young attendees then went on to teleport to Mars via a “jump room” located in a building occupied by Hughes Aircraft at 999 N. Sepulveda Boulevard in El Segundo, California, adjacent to the Los Angeles International Airport (LAX).
Obama identified as having visited Mars at least twice
Mr. Basiago and Mr. Stillings have each issued public statements confirming that they both attended Mars training with Mr. Obama and later encountered him on Mars during separate visits.
On August 21, 2011, Mr. Basiago stated: "Something highly significant has happened, and that is that two individuals from the same Mars training class in 1980 (Basiago and Stillings) have met and are comparing experiences and are able to corroborate not only that they were on the surface of Mars together but that before reaching Mars via jump room they were trained with a group of teenagers that included the current President of the United States (Obama) and director of DARPA (Dugan)."
Mr. Stillings’ statement, released at the same time, read: "I can confirm that Andrew D. Basiago and Barack Obama (then using the name "Barry Soetoro") were in my Mars training course in Summer 1980 and that during the time period 1981 to 1983, I encountered Andy, Courtney M. Hunt of the CIA, and other Americans on the surface of Mars after reaching Mars via the "jump room" in El Segundo, California.”
more at:
http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2011/11/mars-visitors-basiago-and-stillings-confirm-barack-obama-traveled-to-mars-1.html | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/3/2012 2:25:19 AM | I hate Obama, do I get a prize? Well since I have over 7 days worth of food I may just get a title called terr*****. Lol, I don't want POF's robots to kick me off so I am not typing the full word. I may also get detained indefinitely with no charges pressed and no trial, yay for me!
The latest nail in the casket for what was our country as we knew it, was on last Saturday, December 31, 2011 Obama signed the NDAA bill into law :( But he signed an executive waiver to make himself look better. What he should have done was to not sign it at all but remember he has an agenda so he needs to stay on track!
I have to wonder what he wants to do with all the FEMA Camps that are set up here.They have an awfully huge budget for an economy thats in the gutter,hmmm.
http://youtu.be/dc4BcG2OzkI short youtube video =Obama signs NDAA bill | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/3/2012 7:42:11 AM | Jenny, unless you've not been paying attention, Obama NOT signing that bill would have left him open to the GOP screaming that he didn't support the troops, and those said troops not getting paid or getting their benefits. It's a classic no win situation.
I'm not happy with Obama in the least, but the alternatives are all much worse.
As for the FEMA camps, lets leave the Beck style tinfoil hats outside? | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/3/2012 8:07:34 AM | "You guys live in denial...have you noticed that all of the historical markers for a good economy have been changed since Obama has taken office.8% unemployment is now supposed to be acceptable, 1.5% GDP now not so bad, 370,000 new UE claims not so bad..."
And who exactly do you think got the U.S. into this situation?
"Increasing the deficit and extending ue benefits every two or three months isn't helping the Economy it is just digging a deeper hole..."
Just curious... what would a Republican president do for the unemployed? | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/3/2012 11:20:35 AM | Well someone is in denial and it sure isn't me!!! Obama had a choice to sign that bill or not, yes, it would have possibly gotten enough votes to pass by Congress again but the veto is there for a reason. He does what he wants to do. He may also have others telling him what he "wants" to do but he seems to do a great job of supporting the wrong events and signing the wrong bills.
He added what he wanted and protested against it to try to make himself look innocent regarding U.S citizens detainment (caught in a lie, watch the video) and then went ahead and signed it.
http://youtu.be/MObxO0u0aHY This is the shorter video just so it will hold your attention, Levin speaking.
Obama is as bad as it gets, you haven't done enough homework apparently. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/16/2012 7:35:25 AM | You are listening to and find Mark Levin credible?
You know... 70 million Germans once believed Joseph Goebbels | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/21/2012 3:33:01 PM | I actually came in here to try and learn something interesting about the American hard-on for hating President Obama in the media. As a Canadian, I think Obama is fantastic and he couldn't have risen to power at a better time in history.
From where I'm standing, the only reason the United States of America isn't embroiled in a bloody civil war right now, is entirely because of President Obama. He totally saved your asses from ol' Dubbya, he's making damn sure that the American people are going to be looking out for each other and NOT leaving the poor and dispossessed to die in your streets. He has almost single handedly prevented many of your allies from jumping ship like drowning rats and he's done it all while you hate him, insult him, and defy his every effort at every step of the way.
Some of us remember the stinking pile of road apples that he was handed on day one, and the fact that you even have a job or a home to live in is entirely because of him and his administration.
What about Kennedy? He is the King Arthur of American political mythology right? Drug user, womanizer, corruption scandals, organized crime, near nuclear annihilation...
I love Kennedy as much as most people seem to but he wouldn't last six months in the oval office today. He was a great president despite his flaws but today's media is nothing more than a blood-thirsty witch-hunt and despite all that, despite all the pages of hatred in here, President Obama still looks like the best thing to ever happen to the United States of America.
That is one ignorant Canadian guy's opinion. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/21/2012 4:31:47 PM | Yeah, the best headline the day after he won the election was "Black Man Gets Worst Job in the World."
Things aren't great, but they are getting better. You're finally getting out of Iraq; the economy didn't melt down; you have an auto industry; there are articles appearing like, "Cities where property prices are going to rebound." It was a hell of a mess, but it looks like the corner has been turned.
It's not the time to hand the keys back to the guys that drove the car into the ditch. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/26/2012 10:45:13 PM |
Due to citizens demands, several states WILL seek to succeed from the nation, which likely will incite a form of civil war,
Secede from the Union, Oh what a great idea! Now lemme take a guess at which states these might be. Hmmm, maybe the carolinas, georgia, Mississipi, Missuori, tennesee. And if I was in Office, I would HAPPILY let them leave; BUT not before they fully re-pay the US treasury of their portion of the US debt! And devoid of any hard assets or green-backs I'd love to see how they are gonna purchase crude oil from Opec, or whose gonna give them any loans! | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/27/2012 8:52:44 AM |
Mark my words.
Yeah, because you've been right about so many other things.
If theres a civil war in this country, it will start with the radical, far right wingers, those same lunatics who think Obama is a keyan born muslim who is a marxist facist socialist liberal all at the same time. The same knuckleheads who think Rush is right and Beck is sane.
For all the kvetching from the right about Class warfare, it's coming from the 1% supporting GOP. For all the talk about "Family Values" the right is supporting serial liar and philanderer Newt Gingrich, or job Destroyer Mitt Romney, or "Jesus Candidate" Frothy Santorum.
The GOP the party of liars, cheats and hatred.
If as when the far right wing DOES manage to start something, they'll find out tout suite that the moderate right and independants WON'T be on their side, that their carefully hoarded pistols and Chinese made AKs (Irony?) and M16 look alikes won't save their butts from the kicking they get. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/27/2012 9:45:24 AM | Ahh yes, the Texas secession!
$160 billion? Gee I wonder how much Texas's GDP would be affected by the loss of government contracts? No more NASA money in Houston, no more federal money anywhere in the state. No fed funds to support any state programs, no pork barrel money for pet projects.
Then the cost to raise an army, to defend against the cartels, who would view Texas as fertile ground for smuggling.
It always strikes me as funny, things of this nature look so easy, but no one ever looks at the costs of leaving, or loss of revenue, or establishing their own currency.
Simpe minds=simple thoughts... | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/28/2012 6:50:17 PM | Msg 112 is a copy of that poster's posting on another site (as evidenced by the identical photo on that site and on pof.) The partial link posted at the end of the "article" leads nowhere. Transparent attempt at faking legitimacy.
We had not even entertained the idea of a Civil War before obama took office, therefore him "saving us" from one is illogical. Due to citizens demands, several states WILL seek to succeed from the nation, which likely will incite a form of civil war, however, he will instead launch said war on US Citizens, one led by her own government, using martial law and a standing army, very shorty. Mark my words. Consider your words marked. Keep 'em coming!!
I would love a ball park timeframe for "very shortly" but I fear that request would only encourage a vague response, and the decisive predictions about "succeeding" (understood as seceding) would be watered down, leading to commentary that is much less entertaining.
Will their attempt to secede succeed? No, but not because of martial law or civil war, etc., but because a few zealots does not an uprising make. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/29/2012 12:44:36 PM |
Msg 112 is a copy of that poster's posting on another site (as evidenced by the identical photo on that site and on pof.) The partial link posted at the end of the "article" leads nowhere. Transparent attempt at faking legitimacy. That poster is me. Amy lee Velasco. nice to meet ya. I can not provide the link to where I posted the story, as the site is not public. I did, however, provide the direct source from the original report
This just proves that cutting and pasting isn't a good journalistic practice, especially when you claim that the site is private. I had no problem accessing that site (http://12160.info/forum/topics/obama-demands-total-control-calling-it-reorganizing-executive?xg_source=activity) where the only contribution from the poster is to add a new, slanted title, much like it was done in the post here in POF. The original title by the original poster was: Obama Seeks New Power ‘With or Without Congress’
So, here are the facts and the evolution of the original information leading to message #112 in this thread: Fred Lucas wrote an article reporting that President Obama was asking Congress for authorization to re-organize his Administration in order to achieve higher efficiency and reduce instances of unnecessary bureaucracy. Amy Velasco cut and pasted Fred Lucas article in another site just adding a slanted title saying that the President Obama "demands total control," and finally Apologist D.A. (aka Amy Velasco) cut and pasted here the article that she had first cut and pasted somewhere else, now adding that the information provided by Fred Lucas proves that the President is :
not a failure at becoming America's first dictator!
All I can say is that the opinions of someone cutting and pasting an article don't become facts just because someone wishes that to be the case. I can't assure you that you would be more successful at communicating your ideas, but perhaps if you bothered to elaborate a bit on your opinions, maybe I wouldn't just shake my head and laugh at the same time. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/30/2012 4:17:19 AM |
That poster is me. Amy lee Velasco. nice to meet ya.
Yes, I know. I made that clear in my earlier post.
Imported Labor has laid it out nicely. | |
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| Obama is an utter failure. Posted: 1/30/2012 4:24:36 AM | Cutting and pasting aside..Obama supporters cant seem to come to terms with reality..."Asking Congress for authorization to re-organize his Administration in order to achieve higher efficiency and reduce instances of unnecessary bureaucracy. " = more control for Obama and less oversight....Panels that determine Health care service provided= Death panels in certain instances, no matter how you argue when a panel of non doctors makes a determination of care you will receive based on cost effectiveness and what not in some cases that is a death sentence...
Just because you all have lowered the standards for what you call a successful Presidency doesn't mean that he is not a failure... | |
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